What new addition to the Batman franchise was better,the films or Arkham games?

I prefer the movies, games were just okay. Not a huge fan of single player games these days.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Jesus Christ, the games are actually winning? SMH. System Wars demonstrates its awful taste yet again.drinkerofjuice

[QUOTE="percech"]It's funny how horrible you taste in everything is. Tell me exactly what you thought was done better in Begins than in Rises.MetroidPrimePwn

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[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Gue1"]

to me was more like this:

Dark Knight > Begins > Rises

Dark Knight took some of the best stuff from movies like: Heat (1995), Point Break (1991), Blade Runner (1982) and only made it better. I even heard that Nolan forced the actors to watch these 3 movies every day before filming and you can tell from the get go the heavy influence of these 3 films on the Dark Knight. But anyway, this trilogy will be remembered forever even if Rises was crap.

seanmcloughlin

Rises is no where near as good as everyone makes it out to be. Don't know if it's better than Begins, probably equal in my eyes. But Rises was a let down for me.

Rises was a letdown for me because I personally don't think Anne Hathaway is Catwoman material, and for being Batman there sure was a lot of Bruce Wayne not being Batman.

Bane was top notch though. He was definitely the best villain in the series because he was actually Bane! He outsmarted Batman, could beat the crap out of Batman, and he took over the entire city in a day.

I know Joker gets a lot of credit because Ledger was crazy good in that role, but it wasn't really the Joker. I mean where were the practical jokes? He was just a crazy person.

That's why I like the Arkham games more. They were just much more true to Batman, and playing them just felt so incredibly good that I believed I was actually Batman. I didn't even have to think about the controls while I played. It just seemed like everything I wanted to happen would happen.

What a tough decision. Both did awesome jobs portraying Batman. If i had to pick one I probably would say the games. Conroy as Batman and Hamil as the Joker is always awesome to have

Both are great ! Both the games were exceptional and came close to my fav. animated series !!!

The games, simply because both of them were awesome. The movies have there ups and downs. Batman Begins was a bad movie, The Dark Knight was a fantastic film, and Dark Knight Rises was hardly a batman film.

I'm disappointed at the lack of a choice for: they both rocked.:cool:

Zassimick

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

I'd rank it Batman Begins > Arkham City > The Dark Knight > Arkham Asylum > The Dark Knight Rises, so it pretty much averages out to being exactly the same.

percech

Eh....I don't know.

They both really rocked what with the Arkham games expanidng on the Batman lore and the movies giving a bit of a darker, drama, crime mystery edge and twist to the Batman formual.

Really, tough call. I think in the end there's one thing I can agree on: Batman fvcking OWNED this gen.

The Dark Knight Rises really soured the film series, but even before then, I thought the Arkham series did bigger justice to the Batman franchise. When you play the Arkham games, you can feel the history of Batman seeping through every frame. When you watch the Christopher Nolan movies, all you really see is..... Christopher Nolan :?FrozenLiquid

Really? All I saw was Batman with the occasional Bruce Wayne, Alfred, Joker, and other supporting characters. Did not know Nolan had a cameo in the movies. Will look harder next time.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

I'd rank it Batman Begins > Arkham City > The Dark Knight > Arkham Asylum > The Dark Knight Rises, so it pretty much averages out to being exactly the same.

rilpas

I also feel like it was actually the better film, out of all of them, but Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker just carries The Dark Knight so far. It was just so unnerving and powerful. It makes The Dark Knight my favorite of the movies, but I do think Batman Begins was actually better.

The Dark Knight Rises really soured the film series, but even before then, I thought the Arkham series did bigger justice to the Batman franchise. When you play the Arkham games, you can feel the history of Batman seeping through every frame. When you watch the Christopher Nolan movies, all you really see is..... Christopher Nolan :?FrozenLiquid

Haha. Well put. But that was kind of by design. Nolan set out to make the Dark Knight Trilogy as a secluded, separate story from the actual Batman cannon. He described it in an interview one time like, a comic book story never ends, because there's just constant new adventures, so the story is always open-ended. With his movies, he wanted to make a single saga, that had a definite end. In his world, The Dark Knight Rises was the final end of Batman. All that Batman ever did, was what was in those three movies.

The Arkham games were designed with the comics very much in mind, as a new story, that's happening now, to the same Batman that's been through all this sh!t for decades.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]The Dark Knight Rises really soured the film series, but even before then, I thought the Arkham series did bigger justice to the Batman franchise. When you play the Arkham games, you can feel the history of Batman seeping through every frame. When you watch the Christopher Nolan movies, all you really see is..... Christopher Nolan :?Goyoshi12

Really? All I saw was Batman with the occasional Bruce Wayne, Alfred, Joker, and other supporting characters. Did not know Nolan had a cameo in the movies. Will look harder next time.

If you wanna be an as shole, you gotta have the swagger. If you don't have it, you come off looking like an idiot instead.

Just a bit of Christmas charity for you.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]The Dark Knight Rises really soured the film series, but even before then, I thought the Arkham series did bigger justice to the Batman franchise. When you play the Arkham games, you can feel the history of Batman seeping through every frame. When you watch the Christopher Nolan movies, all you really see is..... Christopher Nolan :?the_bi99man

Haha. Well put. But that was kind of by design. Nolan set out to make the Dark Knight Trilogy as a secluded, separate story from the actual Batman cannon. He described it in an interview one time like, a comic book story never ends, because there's just constant new adventures, so the story is always open-ended. With his movies, he wanted to make a single saga, that had a definite end. In his world, The Dark Knight Rises was the final end of Batman. All that Batman ever did, was what was in those three movies.

The Arkham games were designed with the comics very much in mind, as a new story, that's happening now, to the same Batman that's been through all this sh!t for decades.

The movies, despite the fact that Rises falls apart in the third act.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Jesus Christ, the games are actually winning? SMH. System Wars demonstrates its awful taste yet again.drinkerofjuice

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Jesus Christ, the games are actually winning? SMH. System Wars demonstrates its awful taste yet again.DarkLink77

How can I pick? The Arkham games are the two greatest comic book hero games ever made by a huge margin and the Dark Knight Trilogy are the three best comic book hero movies ever made by a huge margin... I simply cannot choose.

How can I pick? The Arkham games are the two greatest comic book hero games ever made by a huge margin and the Dark Knight Trilogy are the three best comic book hero movies ever made by a huge margin... I simply cannot choose.

Pikminmaniac

How can I pick? The Arkham games are the two greatest comic book hero games ever made by a huge margin and the Dark Knight Trilogy are the three best comic book hero movies ever made by a huge margin... I simply cannot choose.

Pikminmaniac

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]The Dark Knight Rises really soured the film series, but even before then, I thought the Arkham series did bigger justice to the Batman franchise. When you play the Arkham games, you can feel the history of Batman seeping through every frame. When you watch the Christopher Nolan movies, all you really see is..... Christopher Nolan :?FrozenLiquid

Really? All I saw was Batman with the occasional Bruce Wayne, Alfred, Joker, and other supporting characters. Did not know Nolan had a cameo in the movies. Will look harder next time.

If you wanna be an as shole, you gotta have the swagger. If you don't have it, you come off looking like an idiot instead.

Just a bit of Christmas charity for you.

I don't want to be secretly g@y though. Thanks.

Or a curtain.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]The Dark Knight Rises really soured the film series, but even before then, I thought the Arkham series did bigger justice to the Batman franchise. When you play the Arkham games, you can feel the history of Batman seeping through every frame. When you watch the Christopher Nolan movies, all you really see is..... Christopher Nolan :?FrozenLiquid

Haha. Well put. But that was kind of by design. Nolan set out to make the Dark Knight Trilogy as a secluded, separate story from the actual Batman cannon. He described it in an interview one time like, a comic book story never ends, because there's just constant new adventures, so the story is always open-ended. With his movies, he wanted to make a single saga, that had a definite end. In his world, The Dark Knight Rises was the final end of Batman. All that Batman ever did, was what was in those three movies.

The Arkham games were designed with the comics very much in mind, as a new story, that's happening now, to the same Batman that's been through all this sh!t for decades.

Hahaha. I just watched Inception for the first time last night. And I realized that Nolan likes to hang out with this particular group of actors. Seriously, like more than half of the cast of Inception had major roles in at least one of the Dark Knight movies.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] The Arkham series is great within its respective medium. It's difficult to say the same thing about Nolan's trilogy.FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] That's actually a very good point. :o I still prefer the films, though.DarkLink77

True that. Hell just look at the new Superman movie; if anyone can't see SOME form of Nolan's Batman elements in the trailer alone then they're just insane.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] As much as I am indifferent about the film franchise, I find that its contributions are either overrated or underrated. A lot of action and thriller movies are quite Nolan-like these days. When even the new JJ Abrams Star Trek trailer has the same beats as a Nolan film, it's obvious he made a bit of a dent. But yeah, I suppose Arkham had a bigger impact in the video game medium than The Dark Knight did in the film medium.Goyoshi12

True that. Hell just look at the new Superman movie; if anyone can't see SOME form of Nolan's Batman elements in the trailer alone then they're just insane.

Well, he is producing that, so it makes sense.

A better example would be Ironman 3.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] The Arkham series is great within its respective medium. It's difficult to say the same thing about Nolan's trilogy.

FrozenLiquid

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I think Nolan made a pretty huge impact. I mean, pretty much every superhero film nowadays cribs from TDK trilogy in some way, and even older franchise like Star Trek and Bond have clearly taken a few pointers from it (though I would argue that the Bond films, Casino Royale especially, did it better).DarkLink77

True that. Hell just look at the new Superman movie; if anyone can't see SOME form of Nolan's Batman elements in the trailer alone then they're just insane.

Well, he is producing that, so it makes sense.

A better example would be Ironman 3.

Wait...he is? :shock:

Wow...had no idea. :| Pretty cool, but yeah Iron Man is also a good example of Nolan's Nolanesque pressense in that movie.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] That's actually a very good point. :o I still prefer the films, though.jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

How can I pick? The Arkham games are the two greatest comic book hero games ever made by a huge margin and the Dark Knight Trilogy are the three best comic book hero movies ever made by a huge margin... I simply cannot choose.

FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] As much as I am indifferent about the film franchise, I find that its contributions are either overrated or underrated. A lot of action and thriller movies are quite Nolan-like these days. When even the new JJ Abrams Star Trek trailer has the same beats as a Nolan film, it's obvious he made a bit of a dent. But yeah, I suppose Arkham had a bigger impact in the video game medium than The Dark Knight did in the film medium.DarkLink77

Plus the noire stages in Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions uses pretty much the same stealth system Asylum used previously.

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

True that. Hell just look at the new Superman movie; if anyone can't see SOME form of Nolan's Batman elements in the trailer alone then they're just insane.

Goyoshi12

Well, he is producing that, so it makes sense.

A better example would be Ironman 3.

Wait...he is? :shock:

Wow...had no idea. :| Pretty cool, but yeah Iron Man is also a good example of Nolan's Nolanesque pressense in that movie.

The movies are great, the games are great, but I prefer Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill as Batman and the Joker.

The films. The last two were excellent. I don't much care for how Batman sound and the first film didn't have a very strong villain but otherwise it's all good.

The Arkham games are great but I felt the plots weren't too great. The Joker's plot felt a little too simple and the very premise of Arkham City is unbelievable. In terms of gameplay I wasn't too fond of how arkham city was a huge mess of colletibles sitting around, I felt like it was unnecessary to have the arkham atmosphere in Gotham which could have been an excellent setting on it's own and there were a lot more loose ends left untied than I'd have liked. Great game but I felt Arkham Asylum was a lot better.

The games, to be honest. Really, really lore heavy.ShadowsDemon

Gaming site may have biased answers! I voted for the films however.