What new Wii U game announcement sold you on the system?

None of them. The WiiU is still garbage.Cheleman

Wow... 4th reply... surprised it took that long for the trolling idiots to jump on this thread. I thought for sure it'd be the first response.

As a Wii U owner, I guess I'm not included in the poll. But the new ZELDA info is YUM!

E3 can't come soon enough.

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Nothing. WWU is nice, but I can play it on my gamecube. Its gonna take more than that to convince me to buy this garbage system.RR360DD

And yet you bought and support the system that had the highest failure rates in history and makes you pay for a P2P online service with dashboard ads?

I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure right?

I assume you're talking about the 360, the system with the best controller, the best library (fact), the best online service (fact) and the most intuitive dashboard (fact)

Boy all these facts are overwhelming ;)

I also bought a PS3 because it was worth it. The Wii U is not.

How you think the 360 controller is better is beyond me.

It's horrible. Awkward analog stick placement is hurting my finger when trying to reach for LB button. The surface on the sticks are also concave which is bad for aiming precision.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Those are all opinions, not facts. But I fail to see what is so better about a library that is mostly the same as it's compeitor, only with less appealing exclusives. An online service that charges you for P2P gaming and the only difference is cross game chat. And a dashboard that uses you for ad space that blocks your themes.

Yep that all sounds so much better.

ShadowMoses900

For sake of argument, ill take the collective critic opinion over yours, who agree that the 360 library is superior. The online service has numerous social features that make it more connected. And since thats what online gaming is all about, its better. The controller is more ergonomic, that is fact. The dashboard is more intuitive, that is fact.

Ad Populam Fallacy.

So your argument is that because a lot of people say something (which in this case isn't even proven) it means it's true? What you're saying is that "the opinions of others are my opinions". So seeing as you are basically saying that you cannot think for yourself, so why should I belive that the 360 is better?

Nothing you said was a fact. It was all opinion, and opinion that isn't even truly yours.

Of course ive made my own opinion. What I'm saying is that my opinion holds more weight because gaming journalism in general agrees with me, not you. According to metacritic, the 360 has the better library. You might prefer the PS3s, good for you.

BTW, ergonomics isn't subjective, nor is UI intuitivity or ease of use. Those are facts, I suggest you do some research ;)

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And yet you bought and support the system that had the highest failure rates in history and makes you pay for a P2P online service with dashboard ads?

I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure right?

GamerwillzPS

I assume you're talking about the 360, the system with the best controller, the best library (fact), the best online service (fact) and the most intuitive dashboard (fact)

Boy all these facts are overwhelming ;)

I also bought a PS3 because it was worth it. The Wii U is not.

How you think the 360 controller is better is beyond me.

It's horrible. Awkward analog stick placement is hurting my finger when trying to reach for LB button. The surface on the sticks are also concave which is bad for aiming precision.

Because I have man hands, not small weak hands. I don't know how anyone can get comfortable with the dualshock3, one squeeze and the thing is destroyed

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

I assume you're talking about the 360, the system with the best controller, the best library (fact), the best online service (fact) and the most intuitive dashboard (fact)

Boy all these facts are overwhelming ;)

I also bought a PS3 because it was worth it. The Wii U is not.

RR360DD

How you think the 360 controller is better is beyond me.

It's horrible. Awkward analog stick placement is hurting my finger when trying to reach for LB button. The surface on the sticks are also concave which is bad for aiming precision.

Because I have man hands, not small weak hands. I don't know how anyone can get comfortable with the dualshock3, one squeeze and the thing is destroyed

I already want one, but Project X just sealed it fully.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

For sake of argument, ill take the collective critic opinion over yours, who agree that the 360 library is superior. The online service has numerous social features that make it more connected. And since thats what online gaming is all about, its better. The controller is more ergonomic, that is fact. The dashboard is more intuitive, that is fact.

RR360DD

Ad Populam Fallacy.

So your argument is that because a lot of people say something (which in this case isn't even proven) it means it's true? What you're saying is that "the opinions of others are my opinions". So seeing as you are basically saying that you cannot think for yourself, so why should I belive that the 360 is better?

Nothing you said was a fact. It was all opinion, and opinion that isn't even truly yours.

Of course ive made my own opinion. What I'm saying is that my opinion holds more weight because gaming journalism in general agrees with me, not you. According to metacritic, the 360 has the better library. You might prefer the PS3s, good for you.

BTW, ergonomics isn't subjective, nor is UI intuitivity or ease of use. Those are facts, I suggest you do some research ;)

Proof?

And even then, that's still a fallacy. What you're using are opinions of others (such as metacritic) to try to prove something subjective.

Everything you have stated is an opinion and not a fact.

Man, they all looked great. :) Happy to own one. Just a quick question, though: Which ones are coming to PeeC- Oh, none of them are? The master race is missing out on these awesome titles? That's... sad. :lol:

Drasonak

I am a member of the master race and I am sad to have to, but I do come down from heaven to grace consoles when they have something I want ;). Ni No Kuni and all of these awesome games are some of those examples.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

I assume you're talking about the 360, the system with the best controller, the best library (fact), the best online service (fact) and the most intuitive dashboard (fact)

Boy all these facts are overwhelming ;)

I also bought a PS3 because it was worth it. The Wii U is not.

RR360DD

How you think the 360 controller is better is beyond me.

It's horrible. Awkward analog stick placement is hurting my finger when trying to reach for LB button. The surface on the sticks are also concave which is bad for aiming precision.

Because I have man hands, not small weak hands. I don't know how anyone can get comfortable with the dualshock3, one squeeze and the thing is destroyed

Wat?

Well, I guess that fanboyism is clouding your judgement. DualShock 3 is extremely comfortable, notice how Sony never changed the design. If it's of any indication, gamers approved the controller design. I'm sorry, but you're in the minority who thinks DualShock controllers are bad. Being in the minority could mean your hands are in a strange form. I doubt you have "man's hands". Your disapproval of DualShock controllers says it all...

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

I assume you're talking about the 360, the system with the best controller, the best library (fact), the best online service (fact) and the most intuitive dashboard (fact)

Boy all these facts are overwhelming ;)

I also bought a PS3 because it was worth it. The Wii U is not.

RR360DD

How you think the 360 controller is better is beyond me.

It's horrible. Awkward analog stick placement is hurting my finger when trying to reach for LB button. The surface on the sticks are also concave which is bad for aiming precision.

Because I have man hands, not small weak hands. I don't know how anyone can get comfortable with the dualshock3, one squeeze and the thing is destroyed

Lol what? Are you being serious?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

For sake of argument, ill take the collective critic opinion over yours, who agree that the 360 library is superior. The online service has numerous social features that make it more connected. And since thats what online gaming is all about, its better. The controller is more ergonomic, that is fact. The dashboard is more intuitive, that is fact.

RR360DD

Ad Populam Fallacy.

So your argument is that because a lot of people say something (which in this case isn't even proven) it means it's true? What you're saying is that "the opinions of others are my opinions". So seeing as you are basically saying that you cannot think for yourself, so why should I belive that the 360 is better?

Nothing you said was a fact. It was all opinion, and opinion that isn't even truly yours.

Of course ive made my own opinion. What I'm saying is that my opinion holds more weight because gaming journalism in general agrees with me, not you. According to metacritic, the 360 has the better library. You might prefer the PS3s, good for you.

BTW, ergonomics isn't subjective, nor is UI intuitivity or ease of use. Those are facts, I suggest you do some research ;)

Uhhh. Yeah. Sort if is. I find the PS3 UI much more intuitive. The PS3 controller I also find superior. So now what?

Now we can objectively measure loading times, for which I find the XBOX achievements load much faster, and sometimes moving from game to menu is faster on 360 (where the PS3 might lag a little more going from game to menu). Those things are measurable. But how "intuitive" it is completely subjective, I much prefer the straightforward and clear menu of the PS3 to the cluttered mess of tiles the 360 uses.

I'm gonna take the low road and say Yoshi.

I already own one, but I'm interested in all of those games (minus SMT x FE)

I have never been more up in the air bout a console. Generally I am super hyped about new consoles, especially Nintendo consoles. This one just doesn't feel right to me, it's like the appeal isn't there. They want to be a multimedia machine, but it doesn't play dvd's or blu-rays, the OS is terribly slow, and the controller battery life just isn't right.

I know I will get one, but it probably won't be until some of these games are released and possibly a price drop.

Out of those games, Zelda WW and Project X definately are the standouts for me, but I already own WW on GC so I'm not going to buy it at full price.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Ad Populam Fallacy.

So your argument is that because a lot of people say something (which in this case isn't even proven) it means it's true? What you're saying is that "the opinions of others are my opinions". So seeing as you are basically saying that you cannot think for yourself, so why should I belive that the 360 is better?

Nothing you said was a fact. It was all opinion, and opinion that isn't even truly yours.

2Chalupas

Of course ive made my own opinion. What I'm saying is that my opinion holds more weight because gaming journalism in general agrees with me, not you. According to metacritic, the 360 has the better library. You might prefer the PS3s, good for you.

BTW, ergonomics isn't subjective, nor is UI intuitivity or ease of use. Those are facts, I suggest you do some research ;)

Uhhh. Yeah. Sort if is. I find the PS3 UI much more intuitive. The PS3 controller I also find superior. So now what?

Now we can objectively measure loading times, for which I find the XBOX achievements load much faster, and sometimes moving from game to menu is faster on 360 (where the PS3 might lag a little more going from game to menu). Those things are measurable. But how "intuitive" it is completely subjective, I much prefer the straightforward and clear menu of the PS3 to the cluttered mess of tiles the 360 uses.

Its not. Ease of use and intuitivity can actually be measured as well. Such as, how many button presses it takes to perform a whole manner of tasks. The 360 UI is definitely more intuitve, and that is fact. Irregardless of what you or I actually prefer (or are used to)

Same goes for the controller, ergonomics is measured. Its universally accepted that the 360 controller fits more comfortably in the hand than the dualshock (unless you're some sort of freak like shadow or gamerwilz)

Its universally accepted that the 360 controller fits more comfortably in the hand than the dualshock (unless you're some sort of freak like shadow or gamerwilz)

RR360DD

:lol:

Take off your fanboy goggles.

Why are the 360 and PS3 being compared to each other in this thread???? Lems and Cows can't handle sharing space can they?

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Of course ive made my own opinion. What I'm saying is that my opinion holds more weight because gaming journalism in general agrees with me, not you. According to metacritic, the 360 has the better library. You might prefer the PS3s, good for you.

BTW, ergonomics isn't subjective, nor is UI intuitivity or ease of use. Those are facts, I suggest you do some research ;)

RR360DD

Uhhh. Yeah. Sort if is. I find the PS3 UI much more intuitive. The PS3 controller I also find superior. So now what?

Now we can objectively measure loading times, for which I find the XBOX achievements load much faster, and sometimes moving from game to menu is faster on 360 (where the PS3 might lag a little more going from game to menu). Those things are measurable. But how "intuitive" it is completely subjective, I much prefer the straightforward and clear menu of the PS3 to the cluttered mess of tiles the 360 uses.

Its not. Ease of use and intuitivity can actually be measured as well. Such as, how many button presses it takes to perform a whole manner of tasks. The 360 UI is definitely more intuitve, and that is fact. Irregardless of what you or I actually prefer (or are used to)

Same goes for the controller, ergonomics is measured. Its universally accepted that the 360 controller fits more comfortably in the hand than the dualshock (unless you're some sort of freak like shadow or gamerwilz)

LOL. The 360 dashboard is an absolute mess. I actually think its less button presses to launch a game on PS3, and you can sort your gameslist more effectively on PS3. My only beef with the PS3 is alot of stuff happens in the background on the 360 much faster, whereas you have to "load" them on the PS3 (i.e. waiting for your trophy images to load takes longer, waiting for the tiles for your game list takes alot longer on PS3). That part of it is definitely better ingegrated into the 360 system and just "smoother" overall. However if we are just talking about UI and navigating menus, then what you are saying is completely stupid and backwards. Not only is it not "fact", you actually have it completely backwards from reality. The 360 UI is a cluster$@%^ that is not intuitive at all, whereas the PS3 is a breeze. If stuff actually loaded on the PS3 faster, it would blow away the 360 and not even be close. As it stands, the "User Interface" on the whole is highly a matter of preference. It "works" better on the 360, but because of horrendous and cheap aesthetics of the 360, many people probably prefer the more contemporary and simpler PS3 UI.

The PS3 controller, other than the analog triggers, is superior to the 360 controller in every measurable way. The PS3 controller has analog face button, the 360 lacks analog face buttons. The PS3 has built in lithim-ion batteries. The 360 you have to either use AA batteries or buy a bulky "play and charge" kit. The rumble function is also inferior on the 360, ironic considering the launch PS3's even lacked rumble. In fact, the only measures where you can say the 360 controller is actually better, are the subjective ones (i.e the old "it fits better in my hands" routine). It's by the objective measures thatt he PS3 controller is better. I actually find them both to be relatively similar. I just find it funny when people overstate the importance of controllers, but especially when they 360 users knock the Dualshock 3. The only way a person can knock the other controller, is if they are only used to playing with that controller. It is an adjustment to go from the 360 controller to the PS3 controller, just as it is an adjustment to go from the 360 controller the Dualshock 3. But once that adjustmenet is made they are basically the same (other than the specific features that the 360 controller is actually lacking compared to the DS3)

OMG, OMG, LINKS TO EVERYTHING NOW! They announced a Yoshis Island game? ARE YOU F*CKING SH*TTING ME? AND WW HD!

(YES I'M YELLING THROUGH MY FINGERS!)

The new Zelda WiiU, if does not turn to a MMO as they said

That would take 5-6 years from what i understand, so i can forget WiiU even exists until then

Ok, for real, is there a one stop place I can go to check all this out? Was it all just announcements, or are there videos/screens?

Mario and Monolithsoft

I already planned to get one, but only when the games started showing up.

Probably going to wait until the holiday season though.

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD is the most exciting announcement out of the bunch, but I am still not sold on the console yet. Need alot more than a HD Zelda to get me on board.

The new Zelda WiiU, if does not turn to a MMO as they said

That would take 5-6 years from what i understand, so i can forget WiiU even exists until then

loosingENDS

I don't think they're planning an MMO, they just want to connect players.

Maybe something like demon's souls/dark souls.

what was announced? dobzilian

This is what I keep asking, I just want a link to one place where I can check this stuff out!

I was already sold on the Wii U. But I must say WW got me excited the most. The Xeno game was pretty exciting too.

The controller and current gen specs kill any chance of me ever buying one regardless of what game releases for it.AmazonTreeBoa

Yeah, the most functional gaming controller released is just garbage. And then being able to choose between three different controllers? How dare they!

But I agree with ya. Games don't matter on a gaming console. No matter how good they may be, I cant suffer for less pixels.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

Uhhh. Yeah. Sort if is. I find the PS3 UI much more intuitive. The PS3 controller I also find superior. So now what?

Now we can objectively measure loading times, for which I find the XBOX achievements load much faster, and sometimes moving from game to menu is faster on 360 (where the PS3 might lag a little more going from game to menu). Those things are measurable. But how "intuitive" it is completely subjective, I much prefer the straightforward and clear menu of the PS3 to the cluttered mess of tiles the 360 uses.

2Chalupas

Its not. Ease of use and intuitivity can actually be measured as well. Such as, how many button presses it takes to perform a whole manner of tasks. The 360 UI is definitely more intuitve, and that is fact. Irregardless of what you or I actually prefer (or are used to)

Same goes for the controller, ergonomics is measured. Its universally accepted that the 360 controller fits more comfortably in the hand than the dualshock (unless you're some sort of freak like shadow or gamerwilz)

LOL. The 360 dashboard is an absolute mess. I actually think its less button presses to launch a game on PS3, and you can sort your gameslist more effectively on PS3. My only beef with the PS3 is alot of stuff happens in the background on the 360 much faster, whereas you have to "load" them on the PS3 (i.e. waiting for your trophy images to load takes longer, waiting for the tiles for your game list takes alot longer on PS3). That part of it is definitely better ingegrated into the 360 system and just "smoother" overall. However if we are just talking about UI and navigating menus, then what you are saying is completely stupid and backwards. Not only is it not "fact", you actually have it completely backwards from reality. The 360 UI is a cluster$@%^ that is not intuitive at all, whereas the PS3 is a breeze. If stuff actually loaded on the PS3 faster, it would blow away the 360 and not even be close. As it stands, the "User Interface" on the whole is highly a matter of preference. It "works" better on the 360, but because of horrendous and cheap aesthetics of the 360, many people probably prefer the more contemporary and simpler PS3 UI.

The PS3 controller, other than the analog triggers, is superior to the 360 controller in every measurable way. The PS3 controller has analog face button, the 360 lacks analog face buttons. The PS3 has built in lithim-ion batteries. The 360 you have to either use AA batteries or buy a bulky "play and charge" kit. The rumble function is also inferior on the 360, ironic considering the launch PS3's even lacked rumble. In fact, the only measures where you can say the 360 controller is actually better, are the subjective ones (i.e the old "it fits better in my hands" routine). It's by the objective measures thatt he PS3 controller is better. I actually find them both to be relatively similar. I just find it funny when people overstate the importance of controllers, but especially when they 360 users knock the Dualshock 3. The only way a person can knock the other controller, is if they are only used to playing with that controller. It is an adjustment to go from the 360 controller to the PS3 controller, just as it is an adjustment to go from the 360 controller the Dualshock 3. But once that adjustmenet is made they are basically the same (other than the specific features that the 360 controller is actually lacking compared to the DS3)

LOL you couldn't be more wrong. Im not even going to bother. Bye.

[QUOTE="dobzilian"]what was announced? ConanTheStoner

This is what I keep asking, I just want a link to one place where I can check this stuff out!

Project X just sealed it for me. I want that game NAOOO!!! Definitely going the PS-U route this gen. I will miss Halo but oh well.

Everything

I thought Link to the Past was your favorite game of all time

My jaw just about hit the floor at the Fire Emblem x Shin Megami Tensei collaboration. Awesome.

Honestly, in terms of first party stuff it didn't surprise me. I'm glad to get confirmation on a 3D Mario and Mario Kart U at E3. A new Zelda was good to hear, and i'm liking all this talk about direction but I swear to God Nintendo use the style from the tech demo...

I was surprised at the Windwaker HD Remake, that got me all kinds of excited. It looks amazing.

The other stuff like upgrades to the OS, a Fire Emblem game, Monolith doing something, that's all great freakin news.

[QUOTE="dobzilian"]what was announced? ConanTheStoner

This is what I keep asking, I just want a link to one place where I can check this stuff out!

Yoshi Wii U
Project X (Monolith Soft's Wii U title)
Bayonetta 2 (They only showed the Development team talking about it)
The Wonderful 101 (New Trailer)
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem

Given there was no F-Zero or Star Fox listed, I would say none of them. Another 3-D Mario was a given, I would be a bit more excited about Zelda if Twilight Princess was the one getting the remake, and a new Mario Kart was another given.

Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem was a surprise, but given I've never played a Megami game, its not as interesting as getting an HD Fire Emblem, and while the Yoshi game looks cool, its not enough to get me to buy the system. And while I'm looking forward to Smash Bros U, I was hoping for a bit more than expect to see it at E3. Especially given the fact that it might not even make it out this year. Why not give us a preview now?

Honestly, I was hoping to see more. We all knew a 3-D Mario, Mario Kart, and Zelda were coming. I wanted to see something like F-Zero, Metroid, or Star Fox announced. I wanted to see some brand new IPs. I wanted to see something unexpected. Even the Yoshi game looked like Kirby's Epic Yarn with the Yoshi Universe plugged in.

There were several good games that were announced, but they are just not enough for me to hop onto the Wii U bandwagon.

OMG, OMG, LINKS TO EVERYTHING NOW! They announced a Yoshis Island game? ARE YOU F*CKING SH*TTING ME? AND WW HD!

(YES I'M YELLING THROUGH MY FINGERS!)

ConanTheStoner

Ok, for real, is there a one stop place I can go to check all this out? Was it all just announcements, or are there videos/screens?

ConanTheStoner

Everything

I thought Link to the Past was your favorite game of all time

whiskeystrike

Already got a WiiU, so...

Nevertheless, I still think the real killer-app for the WiiU at this point is... ZombiU. Don't give a **** what score GS gave it, that game is the best survival horror in years. People complaing about recent RE games should buy a WiiU right away.

However, knowing there's going to be an HD remake for the fantastic WW is good to know. And I'm really eager to get my hands on that "X" game.