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#1 jon_cia
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Is that games are given review scores that are judged against the current library on THAT PARTICULAR CONSOLE, thats why psp and ds games can score 9's, 9.5's and 10's in categories like graphics/sound as they are compared to other games on THE SAME CONSOLE and not as a whole. For example a game on the Wii that scores a 10 in graphics only gets that score because its judged against all other wii games and in comparison to the Wii library of games it is incredible and deserves a 10 however if the game was on the 360/ps3/pc with EXACTLY the same graphics, it would only score a 6 at best. So Mario Galaxy 2 as good as it must be only really shows how weak the rest of the Wii library really is.

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#2 Grawse
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They still won't understand.

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#3 pitty8982
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Is that games are given review scores that are judged against the current library on THAT PARTICULAR CONSOLE, thats why psp and ds games can score 9's, 9.5's and 10's in categories like graphics/sound as they are compared to other games on THE SAME CONSOLE and not as a whole. For example a game on the Wii that scores a 10 in graphics only gets that score because its judged against all other wii games and in comparison to the Wii library of games it is incredible and deserves a 10 however if the game was on the 360/ps3/pc with EXACTLY the same graphics, it would only score a 6 at best. So Mario Galaxy 2 as good as it must be only really shows how weak the rest of the Wii library really is.

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#4 OreoMilkshake
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Nice now lets compare every game on PS3/360 to Crysis. A 10 is a great game by any standards. Like it or not.
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#5 lundy86_4
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Problem is, if the game were on 360/PS3 or PC why would it have the same graphics?

Either way, the reviewer deemed SMG2 worthy of a 10, so just try not to damage control too hard :lol:

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#6 Weslii
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Keep it coming ;)

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#7 osan0
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mario galaxy beat out both halo 3 and uncharted 1 and crysis to take GOTY when it was released. by your logic thats not possible. but it happened.
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#8 jon_cia
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mario galaxy beat out both halo 3 and uncharted 1 and crysis to take GOTY when it was released. by your logic thats not possible. but it happened.osan0

I believe Mario Galaxy should not have won GOTY, I also Believe Crysis Warhead should of won best tecnical graphics over MGS4, but hey thats gamespots opinion, not mine

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#9 GeneralShowzer
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So a game getting a 9.0 on PC is like getting a 16.0 on a console?
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#12 Vesica_Prime
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So a game getting a 9.0 on PC is like getting a 16.0 on a console? GeneralShowzer

Damnit! Beat me to it!

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#13 jon_cia
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]So a game getting a 9.0 on PC is like getting a 16.0 on a console? Vesica_Prime

Damnit! Beat me to it!

Hey if the game is released on console WITH THE EXACT SAME GRAPHICAL AND GAMEPLAY capablilites as the pc, then yea it would get a 16/10
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#14 osan0
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[QUOTE="osan0"]mario galaxy beat out both halo 3 and uncharted 1 and crysis to take GOTY when it was released. by your logic thats not possible. but it happened.jon_cia

I believe Mario Galaxy should not have won GOTY, I also Believe Crysis Warhead should of won best tecnical graphics over MGS4, but hey thats gamespots opinion, not mine

i stopped reading at "i believe". believe whatever you want...it happened and thus your logic holds no water.
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#15 coasterguy65
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What most people on System Wars don't get is...that a review is an opinion...simple as that.

That's why sites like Metacritic are the best sources since they take many reviews and average them out. Many reviews are always better than one review. Maybe the reviewer loves or hates a type of game...will that not affect his review?

On a personal note, the first SMG was a lot of fun and a solid all around game, which had some of the best graphics of any console game. It was probably the best game released for the Wii so far. From what I've seen of SMG2 it is actually going to be better, so IMO it should get a solid 10. I"ll be getting my copy on Sunday that's for sure.

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#16 jon_cia
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[QUOTE="jon_cia"]

[QUOTE="osan0"]mario galaxy beat out both halo 3 and uncharted 1 and crysis to take GOTY when it was released. by your logic thats not possible. but it happened.osan0

I believe Mario Galaxy should not have won GOTY, I also Believe Crysis Warhead should of won best tecnical graphics over MGS4, but hey thats gamespots opinion, not mine

i stopped reading at "i believe". believe whatever you want...it happened and thus your logic holds no water.

Oh im sorry, i didnt think I was allowed to have an opinion:?

Power to the People!!!

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#17 Willy105
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[QUOTE="osan0"][QUOTE="jon_cia"]

I believe Mario Galaxy should not have won GOTY, I also Believe Crysis Warhead should of won best tecnical graphics over MGS4, but hey thats gamespots opinion, not mine

jon_cia

i stopped reading at "i believe". believe whatever you want...it happened and thus your logic holds no water.

Oh im sorry, i didnt think I was allowed to have an opinion:?

Power to the People!!!

You can have opinions all you want, but you can't say they are facts.
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#18 110million
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:| SMG2 has an art style that matches the technical level of the graphics perfectly, the game looks smooth and its not some low frame rate jaggy-fest, it looks beautiful and runs perfectly, if it was on PS3/360 I gurantee it would still be a 10, if a game is super awesome, you'll ignore a lack of graphics, the sad thing is non-Wii owners who won't be able to play such an awesome game. Day one purchase for me, improvement on SMG = insta ******* win.
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#19 789shadow
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Oh, post-10 damage control, how I love you.

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#20 Willy105
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And besides, it works both ways. If a 360 and PS3 shooter came out on Wii with the same controls, it's going to be rated lower on the Wii, because we expect a lot more in terms of controls on the Wii than we do for the HD consoles. The standards are different, but they aren't better than one or the other. The Wii can't do something, it better pony up in another area, the same for the HD consoles. See the sports games and shooters for example.
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#21 Vesica_Prime
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Oh, pre-10 damage control, how I love you.

789shadow

Shouldn't it be post-10 damage control?

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#22 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Oh, pre-10 damage control, how I love you.

Vesica_Prime

Shouldn't it be post-10 damage control?

Damn it. :x

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Thats nice. Whats that? I sense that you're pretty upset about the whole things. Sorry :(.
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#24 110million
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]And besides, it works both ways. If a 360 and PS3 shooter came out on Wii with the same controls, it's going to be rated lower on the Wii, because we expect a lot more in terms of controls on the Wii than we do for the HD consoles. The standards are different, but they aren't better than one or the other. The Wii can't do something, it better pony up in another area, the same for the HD consoles. See the sports games and shooters for example.

Yeah, on the Wii you can't bank on HD graphics to sell your product like a lot of "popular" exclusives do, so you gotta make the game excel in the fun factor. :o
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#26 jon_cia
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[QUOTE="jon_cia"]

[QUOTE="osan0"] i stopped reading at "i believe". believe whatever you want...it happened and thus your logic holds no water.Willy105

Oh im sorry, i didnt think I was allowed to have an opinion:?

Power to the People!!!

You can have opinions all you want, but you can't say they are facts.

Ahh I never said it was fact, my exact words were I BELIEVE, meaning my opinion. Fact is they won these awards but IN MY OPINION i dont agree with them

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#27 silversix_
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Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.
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#28 Willy105
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Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.silversix_
Where have you been this, or the past two years?
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#29 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.Willy105
Where have you been this, or the past two years?

Under a rock playing Wii Sports.

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#30 jon_cia
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Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.silversix_

thats true, but a perfect 10??? nah, that just aint right

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#31 lundy86_4
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Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.silversix_

SMG2, SSBB, NMH 2, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, NSMB Wii, LKS, Punch-Out, Monster Hunter Tri, A Boy and his Blob all came out in the last 2 years :?

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#32 LastRambo341
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Joke thread, people. The one thing that would bother me if Galaxy was on the Ps360 is the controls.
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#33 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.jon_cia

thats true, but a perfect 10??? nah, that just aint right

So what did you personally think of the game?

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#34 110million
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.silversix_

Where have you been this, or the past two years?

Under a rock playing Wii Sports.

It would be funnier if it was even remotely true, but the Wii had a game worth buying a little over a month ago. :wink:
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#35 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.jon_cia

thats true, but a perfect 10??? nah, that just aint right

Then I guess gta4 and mgs4 don't deserve a 10
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#36 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.jon_cia

thats true, but a perfect 10??? nah, that just aint right

Why? Due to the fact you don't agree?

What makes your opinion worth more than the reviewer's?

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#37 LastRambo341
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Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.silversix_
Ya sure, thats all you care about, review scores.
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#38 789shadow
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] Where have you been this, or the past two years?110million

Under a rock playing Wii Sports.

It would be funnier if it was even remotely true, but the Wii had a game worth buying a little over a month ago. :wink:

Also, Sin and Punishment got an 8.5 right before the SMG2 review. ;)

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#39 Arctic_Grillz
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OMG get over it, SMG2 got a 10. so are you gonna go to walgreens tonight and buy a bottle of melatonin to help you sleep?!
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#40 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Under a rock playing Wii Sports.

789shadow

It would be funnier if it was even remotely true, but the Wii had a game worth buying a little over a month ago. :wink:

Also, Sin and Punishment got an 8.5 right before the SMG2 review. ;)

Some people are too hardcore to play anything that isn't AAA+ though. :o
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#41 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Arctic_Grillz"]OMG get over it, SMG2 got a 10. so are you gonna go to walgreens tonight and buy a bottle of melatonin to help you sleep?!

You are the one cranky here.
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#42 jon_cia
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[QUOTE="jon_cia"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.LastRambo341

thats true, but a perfect 10??? nah, that just aint right

Then I guess gta4 and mgs4 don't deserve a 10

If GTA4 and MGS4 were on the Will and looked and played the way they did on the ps3/360/pc (gta4) and ps3 (MGS4) then they would have scored 20/10

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#43 haziqonfire
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Let them celebrate lol its their 2nd game worth buying in over two years.silversix_
Yeah... if you live under a rock, then maybe. Whatever man, haters gonna hate.
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#44 Km0n
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="jon_cia"]

Oh im sorry, i didnt think I was allowed to have an opinion:?

Power to the People!!!

jon_cia

You can have opinions all you want, but you can't say they are facts.

Ahh I never said it was fact, my exact words were I BELIEVE, meaning my opinion. Fact is they won these awards but IN MY OPINION i dont agree with them

then blog it nobody here really cares about your opinion

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#45 ChocolateCake10
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Nice now lets compare every game on PS3/360 to Crysis. A 10 is a great game by any standards. Like it or not.OreoMilkshake

+1, what happened to gameplay and not gfx? smg 2 looks fun anyways

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#46 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="jon_cia"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="jon_cia"]

thats true, but a perfect 10??? nah, that just aint right

Then I guess gta4 and mgs4 don't deserve a 10

If GTA4 and MGS4 were on the Will and looked and played the way they did on the ps3/360/pc (gta4) and ps3 (MGS4) then they would have scored 20/10

SMG2 would be worse on ps360 because of the controls. Heck, despite the fact that I dont care much about visuals, SMG2 looks better than some HD games.
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#47 AfterBurnerZ
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[QUOTE="jon_cia"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] You can have opinions all you want, but you can't say they are facts.Km0n

Ahh I never said it was fact, my exact words were I BELIEVE, meaning my opinion. Fact is they won these awards but IN MY OPINION i dont agree with them

then blog it nobody here really cares about your opinion

The same can be said about 95% of forum posts. It's a message board to discuss opinions.

You not caring about his opinion is an opinion. Blog it! :|

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#48 Twin-Blade
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It will still win GotY & be better then most the AAA titles released on the PS3 & 360 within the last year at least. I'm saying this & I don't even own a Wii, nor was I fond of Super Mario 64. People need to stop being so upset & accept that if you don't own a Wii, you are missing out on an incredible game. As it's been said, the only thing the Wii lacks in regards to the HD consoles is the graphics, but fortunately graphics matter the least, especially when Wii games are by no means ugly, especially titles that choice the artistic route, such as Okami & Muramasa, the latter being one of the best looking games this gen.

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#49 Willy105
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[QUOTE="jon_cia"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] You can have opinions all you want, but you can't say they are facts.Km0n

Ahh I never said it was fact, my exact words were I BELIEVE, meaning my opinion. Fact is they won these awards but IN MY OPINION i dont agree with them

then blog it nobody here really cares about your opinion

That's not true. This whole board operates on opinion.