What the hell Microsoft is doing with XBOX ONE???

PS4 - 399 us dollars(quiet, more powerful, smaller, no batteries)

Xbox One - 399 us dollars (less powerful, bigger, has power supply, uses batteries)

Really. If Microsoft wants to have better sale then Microsoft should sell Xbox One with Kinect 399 us dollars. Xbox One without Kinect won´t help unless they sell Xbox One without Kinect like 299 us dollars. The problem is, Microsoft has no vision. They wanted push online gaming, always online but then they dropped this. Then they said how important is 300 000 dedicated servers but now we find out that most games still not using dedicated servers. Then we heard how important is cloud but now we haven´t seen anything. Then Microsoft talked lot about Kinect and now they dropped Kinect.

Microsoft should sell Xbox One 299 us dollars(without Kinect) or keep 399 us dollars and give Kinect with Kinect Sports Rivals.

What is the point when it has no kinect, its weaker console and same price? You can´t sell at same price without giving anything extra. Give then 1 year free Xbox Live, or 2 free game. Microsoft greedy makes them lose.

Yes, Sony and Nintendo also wants your money but at least Sony and Nintendo has vision.

Sony: "We give you most powerful console, 1080P games, freedom to game developers"

Nintendo: "We innovation our Gamepad, we make great exclusive games, we are family friendly"

Microsoft: "We change world with Kinect... um no... we drop kinect. Um we make gaming much better with cloud... um joke... we don´t have cloud... ummm.. we give 300 000 dedicated servers... only for few games"

I don´t understand. They want casual gamers with Kinect or hardcore gamers? What is their message? If it´s about games then why sell console with same price when its so much weaker than PS4? I don´t get it.

This wouldn't be so sad if you weren't riding the X1 so hard before.

If they announce free backwards compatibility in gamescom. That'll be a game changer.

One could say he is pulling a lot of 180's

X1 with Kinect and MCC / FH2 packed in at 399.99 may get me to bite. :P

yes playing x1/x360 games on ur shiny new console with the same shitty resolution is an amazing must have feature

No amount of applause could suffice here.

@ghostwarrior786: Hey, either that or get milked for remasters/PSNow streaming service.

Either way, it'll make SW's a blast.

FreedomFreeLife turning around again?

My PS4 isnt quiet. Sometimes my fan sounds like an airplane turbine

Not sure if serious or trolling

You should totally be the head of the Xbox division

MS was too focus on Kinect into thinking that playing without a controller in your hand was the future. I'm not saying that Kinect is worthless, the problem is the Technology is just not advance enough for Kinect to work the way we expected to do. If the Technology was so advance, MS would have utilized Kinect and we could've had a FPS Kinect without rails. Bottom line, our Tech still limited.

If Xbox One Kinect worked then it would sell much better. Why Kinect costs 200 euros when it´s not even accurate? Where the hell they spend all money? Did they hire wrong hardware team? I mean Wii U is 299 us dollars and playing Tennis is more accurate(Wii Sports Club) than 499 euros Kinect Xbox One tennis(Kinect rivals). Now when Kinect is gone, now Microsoft has nothing. At least Xbox 360 had better online than PS3 and had always DLC first but now PS4 is cheaper, and also all multiplatform games are like 30% better, now few DLC first won´t save Microsoft.

Yes. If Kinect was advaced enough it would worked so well. How Microsoft didn´t see this coming. How come that Wii Sports Tennis works better than Kinect Tennis?

I thought that you loved kinect and KSR?

Microsoft has lost its vision. Losing console exclusivity also does not help them however, we are just starting this gen. Its a marathon not a race. Given more time the Xbone will have better games and may be worth the investment. In its current state it has not and will not be adorning my entertainment stand for the foreseeable future. I can understand your frustration. You were backing it pretty hard in the beginning. It will get better in the future hang on to it.

Yup.

Trying to keep pace with gen 8 leader, the PS4.

KSR is still fun(Tennis, Surf, Bowling) but they ruined this with casuality. I mean game says when you have to hit tennis ball... Comon... in Wii version it´s fast and accurate. If you miss your ball, then you miss. In Kinect ball is much slower and it says when you have to hit to hit ball. Kinect voice chat is better than PS4 version. Also Skype 1080p is better... but that´s it. I own all 3 consoles but Kinect could been so much better if Microsoft did this right. I just wondering how their hardware team could fail so much?

Pretty sure you don't own all consoles considering the crap you've been saying about Wii U

Wii U still don´t have good online like PS4 or Xbox One has. 2000 player Call of Duty vs 4 million. Also lack of DLC support, no trophies support, no movies, ranks, and other stuff. Most games not support online and totally unranked. So, Wii U has online like it was back in year 2002 like PS2 had

I admire OPs honesty.

Making fools of lemmings.

Which is fine by me.

And voila.

Pretty sure you don't own these consoles

But who would go online and just lie?What kind of sick bastard would do that?

You make this thread once a week Freedom

I think the problem is Microsoft has fucked up, their console is more expensive to make even without Kinect, so if they were to sell it cheaper than the PS4 they would probably be selling it below the cost to manufacture.

I don't think their investors would go for it.

To be honest I don't think lowering the price will do anything cause there is still no games that make it seem worth the purchase. Maybe the MCC will do that but no one knows for sure . What I want them to spend money on is better games that people are willing to buy the console for

Very true

They set out to create a all-in-one entertainment system and they have done just that. But they made two huge errors. One, forcing DRM instead of creating a always online setup that you could try, but if you didn't want it could go back to reselling/trading games as you always have. 2. Bundling Kinect at launch with the higher price instead of offering 2 sku's at launch, including one without Kinect. I use my Xbox One for Xbox Fitness, TV navigation, NFL app, games, twitch watching, Skype, and Netflix streaming. What was available on launch is even better now, and the games are still there. MS made mistakes no doubt. The dedicated servers are there, its up to the third parties to use them. Cloud gaming is still being worked on and will be debuted later this year in terms of what we can expect it can do for games. They fucked up with Kinect, but not voice commands. Simply create a mike for voice commands and leave the motion controls alone, lol. As far as having weaker hardware than the PS4, which is absolutely true, watching footage of Ryse, The Division at E3, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break I'm very impressed by what the Xbox One can do. PS4 may have better graphics in terms of resolution and framerate, but in my opinion they don't have better games.

Xbox message is they are an all in one entertainment console with a focus now on games. They have a ton of work to do to not only spread, but prove that message. Price wise if you feel the One should be cheaper cause the PS4 will have more 1080p games that's fine ans maybe there's premium placed on that for you. But the quick switching, ability to snap two programs including live TV or Skype, Xbox Fitness and Upload Studio, NFL app overlaying while playing for live updates, and the One's exclusives are a premium for me. Its all good whatever you like. MS fucked up. But they have recovered nicely and its a long road ahead. We're not even one full year into gen 8.

This fakeboy is still faking.

Hardware blunders are forever.

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Nothing new MS has always made it cost more to game on all their Xbox's than PS's.

1st Xbox pay to play online for only God knows why.

360 pay more than before to play online, WiFi add on $80, charge n play kits $13 each controller etc.

X1 same price and less powerful than PS4, more to play online with fewer free games than PS4, still pay for charge n play packs.

@clr84651: actually I think the number of free games is the same now

i remember from his previous posts that xbox 1 will destroy ps4, xbox 1 will be more powerful, and look how it is xbox 1 aint selling and now hes pissed

in short, X1 Sucks

You're forgetting Nintendo's flip flop. They tried to say they were going for the core gamers, then backpedaled.

There is no reason to buy an Xbone

@farrell2k: How can you honestly say it hasn't worked out for MS? I have never seen people blow things so far out of proportion its not even funny. Neither console has been out for a year, yet everyone is saying MS is doomed. Its so asinine. The one sold more than what the 360 did in the same time frame, MS took a big chunk of the market from both Sony and Nintendo. If not for MS, you think Sony would have came out with a $399 console? NOOO, they only did it because of the fiasco that was the PS3 at $599. Its crazy what people forget. All of a sudden Sony is the best thing ever, even though not too long ago they tried to shove a 600 dollar system down our throats because it supported media that was so not needed or necessary at the time for gaming. It is so early in this gen to say such nonsense. If you want to say coming out of the gate of this MS failed on every level to properly communicate what their vision was then so be it (Hence, why half the people who were part of that joke of a release are no longer part of the company), but to sit here and make such statements is once again asinine.

I think a few sources have said it will drop to $350, and the bundles with sunset overdrive or madden will be $400. they ps4 is outselling the x1 almost 2:1 so they have to drop the price to not fall too far behind

@FreedomFreeLife: Such English...very knowledge

Do people really care about the power brick and the size difference? If these things weren't something you set down and never move then I could see, but I just cannot see how it would matter to anyone.