What types/genres of games you think we need more of?

Vampire games,waaaay more.

Robot/mecha games.

Fantasy games NOT to be RPGs,ffs,most of them are,im sick & tired of it

More games with atmosphere.

More WW2 FPS

/thread.

I thought it didn't sent,thats why i made another one.

• Stealth games
• Survival Horror games

Survival horror and stealth. ACTUAL stealth, like the GOTY Hitman Absolution.

I think you know

I want more first person rpgs like Legend of Grimrock.

Survival horror and stealth. ACTUAL stealth, like the GOTY Hitman Absolution.

Master_ShakeXXX

Play Dishonored

That's legit stealth.

• Stealth games
• Survival Horror games

RageQuitter69

This and some full blown 2d metroidvania games on consoles. More good 3d platformers would also be nice.

I want more first person rpgs like Legend of Grimrock.

cain006

More first person RPGs made by competent RPG developers.

Less first person RPGs made by Bethesda.

Oh and some more good jrpgs... like 90s era Squaresoft type sh*t.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Survival horror and stealth. ACTUAL stealth, like the GOTY Hitman Absolution.

NeonNinja

Play Dishonored

That's legit stealth.

Does it punish you severely for getting spotted? That's the kinda stealth games I'm talkin about.

Not that I care in Dishonored's case. I plan on playing it anyways. Game looks like a lot of fun.

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I want more first person rpgs like Legend of Grimrock.

NeonNinja

More first person RPGs made by competent RPG developers.

Less first person RPGs made by Bethesda.

I bet Bethesda could make an amazing RPG that's on a smaller scale. Their problem is they always feel the need to make everything as huge and epic as possible, and because of that their games never end up excelling in any particular area. The visuals suffer because of it, the gameplay suffers, the story suffers, and the whole game just ends up feeling unfinished. I still love Skyrim (and Fallout 3 is alright), but I think they would do a lot better to take a step back and actually focus on specific elements rather than just constantly trying to outdo themselves in size and scope.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Survival horror and stealth. ACTUAL stealth, like the GOTY Hitman Absolution.

Master_ShakeXXX

Play Dishonored

That's legit stealth.

Does it punish you severely for getting spotted? That's the kinda stealth games I'm talkin about.

Not that I care in Dishonored's case. I plan on playing it anyways. Game looks like a lot of fun.

Define punish severely?

Because you can play the game as either a pacifist or an assassin. But in either option you want to stay hidden and make sure people don't find you. You can handle enemies very well, but there's no recharging health, so once you're dead, you're dead. You have potions, but there's a limit to how many you can carry and if you run out things'll be harder. So staying hidden is really the best way to play.

If you mean severe punishment based on how the mission turns out, it's not that kind of game as there are non-lethal and lethal ways to end a mission. It's a game that's about choice through gameplay and the world changes based on your actions. So things can turn out however you want them to.

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[QUOTE="cain006"]

I want more first person rpgs like Legend of Grimrock.

Master_ShakeXXX

More first person RPGs made by competent RPG developers.

Less first person RPGs made by Bethesda.

I bet Bethesda could make an amazing RPG that's on a smaller scale. Their problem is they always feel the need to make everything as huge and epic as possible, and because of that their games never end up excelling in any particular area. The visuals suffer because of it, the gameplay suffers, the story suffers, and the whole game just ends up feeling unfinished. I still love Skyrim (and Fallout 3 is alright), but I think they would do a lot better to take a step back and actually focus on specific elements rather than just constantly trying to outdo themselves in size and scope.

No, they couldn't.

Bethesda have no concept of interesting quest design or writing. They make their worlds huge, but there's nothing to do in them besides fetchquests. There's nothing epic about Bethesda's games aside from ground to cover.

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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Play Dishonored

That's legit stealth.

NeonNinja

Does it punish you severely for getting spotted? That's the kinda stealth games I'm talkin about.

Not that I care in Dishonored's case. I plan on playing it anyways. Game looks like a lot of fun.

Define punish severely?

Because you can play the game as either a pacifist or an assassin. But in either option you want to stay hidden and make sure people don't find you. You can handle enemies very well, but there's no recharging health, so once you're dead, you're dead. You have potions, but there's a limit to how many you can carry and if you run out things'll be harder. So staying hidden is really the best way to play.

If you mean severe punishment based on how the mission turns out, it's not that kind of game as there are non-lethal and lethal ways to end a mission. It's a game that's about choice through gameplay and the world changes based on your actions. So things can turn out however you want them to.

Like I said it doesn't really matter in Dishonored's case because that's the kind of game you just play to simply have fun.

I mean I want more challenging stealth games where getting caught feels like an actual consequence. In a lot of "stealth" games these days if you get caught you just kick the enemies' ass and that's it. There's no big incentive to stay hidden.

Console JRPGs that don't look like they could be confused with hent@i.

I have hopes for Tales of Xilia and Ni No Kuni next year but man back with PS1 and PS2 it seems like there were half a dozen good JRPGs coming out a year. Now it feels good to have 1.

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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

More first person RPGs made by competent RPG developers.

Less first person RPGs made by Bethesda.

NeonNinja

I bet Bethesda could make an amazing RPG that's on a smaller scale. Their problem is they always feel the need to make everything as huge and epic as possible, and because of that their games never end up excelling in any particular area. The visuals suffer because of it, the gameplay suffers, the story suffers, and the whole game just ends up feeling unfinished. I still love Skyrim (and Fallout 3 is alright), but I think they would do a lot better to take a step back and actually focus on specific elements rather than just constantly trying to outdo themselves in size and scope.

No, they couldn't.

Bethesda have no concept of interesting quest design or writing. They make their worlds huge, but there's nothing to do in them besides fetchquests. There's nothing epic about Bethesda's games aside from ground to cover.

Well the size of the games is what I think their biggest problem is. It doesn't allow them to focus on the smaller and finer details that go into creating a more memorable experience. They have a lot more to contend with than somebody like, say, Bioware or From Software who make more linear and focused RPGs.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I bet Bethesda could make an amazing RPG that's on a smaller scale. Their problem is they always feel the need to make everything as huge and epic as possible, and because of that their games never end up excelling in any particular area. The visuals suffer because of it, the gameplay suffers, the story suffers, and the whole game just ends up feeling unfinished. I still love Skyrim (and Fallout 3 is alright), but I think they would do a lot better to take a step back and actually focus on specific elements rather than just constantly trying to outdo themselves in size and scope.

Master_ShakeXXX

No, they couldn't.

Bethesda have no concept of interesting quest design or writing. They make their worlds huge, but there's nothing to do in them besides fetchquests. There's nothing epic about Bethesda's games aside from ground to cover.

Well the size of the games is what I think their biggest problem is. It doesn't allow them to focus on the smaller and finer details that go into creating a more memorable experience. They have a lot more to contend with than somebody like, say, Bioware or From Software who make more linear and focused RPGs.

Fallout: New Vegas follows the same mold set by Bethesda. But Obsidian crafted a game with sharp writing, important factions that all viewed you differently, a main questline that had four different branching paths that allowed for four different stories to play out. Every action you did was significant in how the world viewed you.

Obsidian did it. Bethesda have never come close. Intelligent quest design and writing are an important part of an RPG and Bethesda are lacking. They excel at creating beautiful worlds, but what's the point of immersing yourself in that world when there's nothing meaningful to do in it?

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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

No, they couldn't.

Bethesda have no concept of interesting quest design or writing. They make their worlds huge, but there's nothing to do in them besides fetchquests. There's nothing epic about Bethesda's games aside from ground to cover.

NeonNinja

Well the size of the games is what I think their biggest problem is. It doesn't allow them to focus on the smaller and finer details that go into creating a more memorable experience. They have a lot more to contend with than somebody like, say, Bioware or From Software who make more linear and focused RPGs.

Fallout: New Vegas follows the same mold set by Bethesda. But Obsidian crafted a game with sharp writing, important factions that all viewed you differently, a main questline that had four different branching paths that allowed for four different stories to play out. Every action you did was significant in how the world viewed you.

Obsidian did it. Bethesda have never come close. Intelligent quest design and writing are an important part of an RPG and Bethesda are lacking. They excel at creating beautiful worlds, but what's the point of immersing yourself in that world when there's nothing meaningful to do in it?

I haven't played New Vegas so I can't comment on that. But I don't know, I guess I kind of view Bethesda in the same way I view George Lucas. A lot of people wont realise it but at one point in time he was a creative individual, capable of great things. And then as technology improved his ideals changed for the worse. That's what I imagine happened to Bethesda. They simply lost touch with what qualifies as good game design.

sci fi games with time travel invovled

The oft-overlooked melee action game. Particularly multiplayer action games. The single best- most fun- multiplayer game this generation was LotR: Conquest. To date there hasn't been a single multiplayer game that was more focussed on skill and team play over MP level and run-and-gun nonsense.El_Zo1212o

Vampire games,waaaay more.

Robot/mecha games.

Fantasy games NOT to be RPGs,ffs,most of them are,im sick & tired of it

More games with atmosphere.

GreekGameManiac

JRPGs from the good ol' Snes or PS1 days

More WW2 FPS

Ballroompirate

More Racing

Less RPG's

Less of anything Master_Shake or SNIPER like.

CRPG's

Decent JRPG's

And God Games.

Open world WRPGs, no one does it as good as Bethesda.

Real survival horror games (Resident Evil 1, 2, 3 and Code veronica, Alone in the Dark 1, 2 and 3, Sillent Hill 1 and 2, etc..)

More games like Wing Commander, Colony Wars, X-Wing and Tie Fighter, etc

Also i need Battlefront 3

I don't think there's a "We" in this because we all have different tastes. Me? I want modern versions of Combat Flight Simulator 2. C'mon MS. Get it done.

I don't think there's a "We" in this because we all have different tastes. Me? I want modern versions of Combat Flight Simulator 2. C'mon MS. Get it done.

jun_aka_pekto

Oh man, I spend hours with that game.

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I don't think there's a "We" in this because we all have different tastes. Me? I want modern versions of Combat Flight Simulator 2. C'mon MS. Get it done.

Sagem28

Oh man, I spend hours with that game.

I still do. That and CFS3 plus IL2/Pacific Fighters. I have them installed on another PC.

Console JRPGs that don't look like they could be confused with hent@i.

I have hopes for Tales of Xilia and Ni No Kuni next year but man back with PS1 and PS2 it seems like there were half a dozen good JRPGs coming out a year. Now it feels good to have 1.

whiskeystrike

I've been hearing good things about Ni No Kuni. I gotta look up info for that game.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

No, they couldn't.

Bethesda have no concept of interesting quest design or writing. They make their worlds huge, but there's nothing to do in them besides fetchquests. There's nothing epic about Bethesda's games aside from ground to cover.

NeonNinja

Well the size of the games is what I think their biggest problem is. It doesn't allow them to focus on the smaller and finer details that go into creating a more memorable experience. They have a lot more to contend with than somebody like, say, Bioware or From Software who make more linear and focused RPGs.

Fallout: New Vegas follows the same mold set by Bethesda. But Obsidian crafted a game with sharp writing, important factions that all viewed you differently, a main questline that had four different branching paths that allowed for four different stories to play out. Every action you did was significant in how the world viewed you.

Obsidian did it. Bethesda have never come close. Intelligent quest design and writing are an important part of an RPG and Bethesda are lacking. They excel at creating beautiful worlds, but what's the point of immersing yourself in that world when there's nothing meaningful to do in it?

Still I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot. It was probably that first time feeling but the game still kept me playing it over and over. Sadly I can't describe it. :/ Now if only the Elder Scroll games can do the same.

Obsidian perfected what fallout 3 did though. So many things to do in the game and all so good.

The oft-overlooked melee action game. Particularly multiplayer action games. The single best- most fun- multiplayer game this generation was LotR: Conquest. To date there hasn't been a single multiplayer game that was more focussed on skill and team play over MP level and run-and-gun nonsense.El_Zo1212o

Management games (Dwarf Fortress, Evil Genius, Dungeon Keeper)
Space Sims
Sandbox mmos

2D Beat 'em Ups ( Castle Crashers, Shank II, Streets of Rage 2, etc.)

and

Space Ship Shooters (Star Fox 64, Rouge Squadron II)

2D Beat 'em Ups ( Castle Crashers, Shank II, Streets of Rage 2, etc.)

and

Space Ship Shooters (Star Fox 64, Rouge Squadron II)

AtlanticRock

honestly, I think we need new genres for the most part...

they day the industry simply cherry picks what we "need" from the stuff thats already there is the day we all need to find a different hobby...

honestly, I think we need new genres for the most part...

they day the industry simply cherry picks what we "need" from the stuff thats already there is the day we all need to find a different hobby...

TheEroica

Yeah,totally.