What was the most unfair flop given to the xbox360 right here on Gamespot

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#1 ProjectNatalFan
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I would say Fable 2 getting 8.5. Should of been AAA. Crackdown getting A was another one that comes to mind, and the original Mass Effect. Please say which one was the most unfair flop. Thanks

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#2 Anjunaddict
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Either Crackdown or Alan Wake. Alan Wake should have been AAA, and Crackdown AA imo.
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#3 locopatho
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Too Human. I really enjoyed that game.
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#4 Skittles_McGee
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I totally agree. It was unfair of them to express their opinion that you don't agree with. Who do they think they are.
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#5 ProjectNatalFan
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Either Crackdown or Alan Wake. Alan Wake should have been AAA, and Crackdown AA imo.Anjunaddict

I agreed with them on Alan Wake because I thought it got too repetitive, that game started off awesome but definitely was not as fun as I came close to ending it.

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#6 waltefmoney
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Alan Wake, Too Human second.

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#7 FlamesOfGrey
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I can't think of one really. I agree with the range of alot of the scores for games here.
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#8 Rahnyc4
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most unfair flop on gamespot was perfect dark zero. i dont know why gamespot gave it the score it got...
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#9 Chrome-
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Alan Wake or Halo Wars.
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#10 ProjectNatalFan
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I totally agree. It was unfair of them to express their opinion that you don't agree with. Who do they think they are.Skittles_McGee

didnt ask for your opinion and Gamespot is the best at reviews and we go by them, they are untitled to be off once in a while so we discuss. Please leave the thread if you dont have anything other than that to offer.

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#11 ProjectNatalFan
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Alan Wake or Halo Wars.Chrome-

I agree Halo Wars was very tough review.

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#12 ProjectNatalFan
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I can't think of one really. I agree with the range of alot of the scores for games here.FlamesOfGrey

that is fair they are the best at what they do for sure.

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#13 Silverbond
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Unfair flop?

Expressing an opinion on a game isn't unfair.

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#14 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]I totally agree. It was unfair of them to express their opinion that you don't agree with. Who do they think they are.ProjectNatalFan

didnt ask for your opinion and Gamespot is the best at reviews and we go by them, they are untitled to be off once in a while so we discuss. Please leave the thread if you dont have anything other than that to offer.

Actually, you did ask for my opinion. This thread is asking for opinions. And what's the deal. I was being totally serious. I even agreed. You don't want me to agree? Should I disagree? So uncool. I thought we were bros.
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#15 Diviniuz
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Either Crackdown or Alan Wake. Alan Wake should have been AAA, and Crackdown AA imo.Anjunaddict
Alan Wake was a good game, but no way did it deserve AAA, too short and repetitive combat, storyline was good. Crackdown was not underrated as well. THE BIGGEST 360 unfair flop was Lost Odyssey!!!
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#16 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]I can't think of one really. I agree with the range of alot of the scores for games here.ProjectNatalFan

that is fair they are the best at what they do for sure.

I don't think they are the best. However, for the 360 I don't have a disagreement with most of their scores that I can recall. If we were talking about handhelds and JRPG's then I would most likely have alot of disgreements with Gamespots review scores.
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#17 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]I totally agree. It was unfair of them to express their opinion that you don't agree with. Who do they think they are.Skittles_McGee

didnt ask for your opinion and Gamespot is the best at reviews and we go by them, they are untitled to be off once in a while so we discuss. Please leave the thread if you dont have anything other than that to offer.

Actually, you did ask for my opinion. This thread is asking for opinions. And what's the deal. I was being totally serious. I even agreed. You don't want me to agree? Should I disagree? So uncool. I thought we were bros.

we are bros for life my friend, Gamespot rules too. =D

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#18 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Either Crackdown or Alan Wake. Alan Wake should have been AAA, and Crackdown AA imo.Diviniuz
Alan Wake was a good game, but no way did it deserve AAA, too short and repetitive combat, storyline was good. Crackdown was not underrated as well. THE BIGGEST 360 unfair flop was Lost Odyssey!!!

what did LO get? Everyone talks about that game!!!

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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Either Crackdown or Alan Wake. Alan Wake should have been AAA, and Crackdown AA imo.Diviniuz
Alan Wake was a good game, but no way did it deserve AAA, too short and repetitive combat, storyline was good. Crackdown was not underrated as well. THE BIGGEST 360 unfair flop was Lost Odyssey!!!

Nah,. I definitely agree with Lost Odyssey's score. I never beat the game but for the hours I put into it a few years ago, I didn't enjoy anything but the dream sequences. The ring system implemented in the combat was poor unlike the one in Shadow Hearts IMO and the story didn't pull me in enough to continue on.
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#20 ImaPirate0202
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Mass Effect hands down.

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#21 SecretPolice
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Mass Effect

Halo Wars

Lost Odyssey

Crackdown

Too Human

Oh and Halo 3 should have got the 10/10 and GOTY or at the very least FPS OTY. :P

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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Either Crackdown or Alan Wake. Alan Wake should have been AAA, and Crackdown AA imo.Diviniuz
THE BIGGEST 360 unfair flop was Lost Odyssey!!!

This. A thousand times. Mass Effect too.
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#23 Skittles_McGee
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I definitely agree with Lost Odyssey's score. FlamesOfGrey
Apparently that's blasphemy in System Wars. In my experience anyway. You're not allowed to think Lost Odyssey was just a "good" RPG.
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#24 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Either Crackdown or Alan Wake. Alan Wake should have been AAA, and Crackdown AA imo.Diviniuz
Alan Wake was a good game, but no way did it deserve AAA, too short and repetitive combat, storyline was good. Crackdown was not underrated as well. THE BIGGEST 360 unfair flop was Lost Odyssey!!!

I'm not gonna lie, it's a lot better than I anticipated. I think the Gametrailers review was pretty spot on.

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#25 FlamesOfGrey
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Mass Effect hands down.

ImaPirate0202
I never get why people think Mass Effect deserve AAA. The 360 version had poor framerate and a decent amount pop in. The general game itself had poor planet exploration due to horrid Mako controls, nearly empty planets with poor design and repetitive base layouts.
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#26 J-WOW
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GS gave an unfair flop, when mostly all the others reviewers gave it the same? (Crackdown, Alan Wake) What about the PS3 or PSP? Heavy Rain some people said it should gotten a 9, GOW Chains of Olympus should of been a 9 too Anyways, those scores are right on, I dont have a problem with GS scores now (I did back when the had the other scoring system)
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#27 mystervj
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Mass Effect

Halo Wars

Lost Odyssey

Crackdown

Too Human

Oh and Halo 3 should have got the 10/10 and GOTY or at the very least FPS OTY. :P

SecretPolice

No way! How else would we know it's actually worse than Crysis :D

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#28 kobraka1
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i do not bother looking at gamespot's scores because they usually do not know what they are talking about. i only look at metacritic or watch gametrailers reviews..i like to see the game that is being reviewed.

but i will list some games on the 360 i think deserve to be talked about. kameo and banjo nuts and bolts were both good. nobody talks PGR but it is a solid franchise that kept getting better. alan wake was not a AAA game but it was a great game and was actually unique. viva pinata gets a bad rap but i think it is good for people who like that sort of thing. in other words i didn't hate playing it.

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#29 NAPK1NS
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Alan Wake was a definitely a AAA game for me. It has serious presentational issues and the combat got a little predictable at the end, but it was still a really solid AAA game.
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#30 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Mass Effect

Halo Wars

Lost Odyssey

Crackdown

Too Human

Oh and Halo 3 should have got the 10/10 and GOTY or at the very least FPS OTY. :P

mystervj

No way! How else would we know it's actually worse than Crysis :D

:) One of these days..

....boom, pow, right to the moon. :P

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]I totally agree. It was unfair of them to express their opinion that you don't agree with. Who do they think they are.ProjectNatalFan

didnt ask for your opinion and Gamespot is the best at reviews and we go by them, they are untitled to be off once in a while so we discuss. Please leave the thread if you dont have anything other than that to offer.

If they're the best at reviews, then it wasn't totally unfair with their reviews and scores...right?
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#32 coasterguy65
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Alan Wake for sure. AW should have easily been a 9.0 or 9.5.

The fact that AW only got an 8.5 and GTA4 got a 10 is just proof that reviews are nothing more than opinions, and most of the time they are wrong.

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#34 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Alan Wake for sure. AW should have easily been a 9.0 or 9.5.

The fact that AW only got an 8.5 and GTA4 got a 10 is just proof that reviews are nothing more than opinions, and most of the time they are wrong.

Their opinions are wrong because you don't agree with them?
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

Mass Effect hands down.

FlamesOfGrey

I never get why people think Mass Effect deserve AAA. The 360 version had poor framerate and a decent amount pop in. The general game itself had poor planet exploration due to horrid Mako controls, nearly empty planets with poor design and repetitive base layouts.

^^ This. ME1 was "good" at best, but not AAA material in any way (at least on 360).

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#36 ImaPirate0202
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Alan Wake for sure. AW should have easily been a 9.0 or 9.5.

The fact that AW only got an 8.5 and GTA4 got a 10 is just proof that reviews are nothing more than opinions, and most of the time they are wrong.

coasterguy65

An opinion can't be wrong.

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#37 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Alan Wake for sure. AW should have easily been a 9.0 or 9.5.

The fact that AW only got an 8.5 and GTA4 got a 10 is just proof that reviews are nothing more than opinions, and most of the time they are wrong.

Their opinions are wrong because you don't agree with them?

Of course. Didn't you know there's a criteria for how right or wrong your opinion is? Keep up with the times, man
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#38 wooooode
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most unfair flop on gamespot was perfect dark zero. i dont know why gamespot gave it the score it got...Rahnyc4
Thats not a flop that is a way over shot.
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#39 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Alan Wake for sure. AW should have easily been a 9.0 or 9.5.

The fact that AW only got an 8.5 and GTA4 got a 10 is just proof that reviews are nothing more than opinions, and most of the time they are wrong.

Their opinions are wrong because you don't agree with them?

Of course. Didn't you know there's a criteria for how right or wrong your opinion is? Keep up with the times, man

It always gives me a laugh how gamers love reviews and reviewers when the games they love are getting high scores but when it flops "but but but they're wrong I love this game, it's 100% AAA material."
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#40 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

Mass Effect hands down.

FlamesOfGrey

I never get why people think Mass Effect deserve AAA. The 360 version had poor framerate and a decent amount pop in. The general game itself had poor planet exploration due to horrid Mako controls, nearly empty planets with poor design and repetitive base layouts.

To each his own. I thought the games problems were miniscule when compared to it's combat, storyline, music, voice acting... all of the things I loved about it.

The Mako controls were pretty bad, though.

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#41 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

Mass Effect hands down.

I never get why people think Mass Effect deserve AAA. The 360 version had poor framerate and a decent amount pop in. The general game itself had poor planet exploration due to horrid Mako controls, nearly empty planets with poor design and repetitive base layouts.

To each his own. I thought the games problems were miniscule when compared to it's combat, storyline, music, voice acting... all of the things I loved about it.

The Mako controls were pretty bad, though.

I think it's AA but not AAA. The storyline, voice acting, and music were great. The graphics were good but the combat felt unfinished and ME2 just confirmed my thoughts on that when I played it. IMO of course.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

Mass Effect hands down.

ImaPirate0202

I never get why people think Mass Effect deserve AAA. The 360 version had poor framerate and a decent amount pop in. The general game itself had poor planet exploration due to horrid Mako controls, nearly empty planets with poor design and repetitive base layouts.

To each his own. I thought the games problems were miniscule when compared to it's combat, storyline, music, voice acting... all of the things I loved about it.

The Mako controls were pretty bad, though.

I really didn't get much pop in with ME1. I liked the controls for the Mako but the missions were slightly drawn out. Lets remember you didn't have to do those missions, your choice. The pro's far out weigh the cons. And compared to other AAA titles, its a no brainer.
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Alan Wake, Halo Wars, and Crackdown. I agree with the Fable review, the first on was amazing, the second one just wasn't as great IMO.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

Mass Effect hands down.

ImaPirate0202

I never get why people think Mass Effect deserve AAA. The 360 version had poor framerate and a decent amount pop in. The general game itself had poor planet exploration due to horrid Mako controls, nearly empty planets with poor design and repetitive base layouts.

To each his own. I thought the games problems were miniscule when compared to it's combat, storyline, music, voice acting... all of the things I loved about it.

The Mako controls were pretty bad, though.

The combat was pretty average, the story didn't really go anywhere for half the game, and the voice acting was "okay" since characters didn't seem to have much emotion in their diologe for the most part (Shephard was the worst offender of this).

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#46 Riverwolf007
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I would say Fable 2 getting 8.5. Should of been AAA. Crackdown getting A was another one that comes to mind, and the original Mass Effect. Please say which one was the most unfair flop. Thanks

ProjectNatalFan

i don't put enough stock into reviews to care. both fable and alan wake scores were pretty much on the money for me. they were good games that i enjoyed but nothing mind blowing.

same with mass effect, at the time i was saying good game but omg can thecombat get any clunkier and wth is up with the damn elevators?

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#47 ucme4k
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I am gonna get flamed as **** but sonic unleashed. Why? it got like 2 score if i remember correctly. They complained about: Controls which are great.(no need to blame the game if u suck at it) Annoying characters which can be skipable(mario characters are also annoying, but they don't say anything about that...) Wherehog levels that can be skiped (its like complaining about being a mage on oblivion cause u chose to, when u can start the game as a fighter) The hedgehog levels are the best combination of 2d and 3d platforming i have ever seen to be honest and there is more of these great levels on DLC for it. Deserved at least a 7.
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  • Lost Odyssey
  • Mass Effect

And I'll add a multiplat:

  • NIER

I think TC is asking for peoples own opinions on what was an unfair flop.

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#49 Animal-Mother
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Fable II was horrible.

If anything alan wake.

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[QUOTE="Chrome-"]Alan Wake or Halo Wars.ProjectNatalFan

I agree Halo Wars was very tough review.

No it wasn't it got compared to a PC RTS, when it happened all the lems lost their minds and said it was unfair, but when a hermit brings up that the PC has higher standards .... On topic, I thought Crackdown was much better than the score it got.