What Was Worse? PSN Outage Or The RROD FIasco?

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#1 Heroldp813
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Which one was worse in your opinion?

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#2 Mr_Ditters
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I was much more pissed about the PSN outage. I'm not a fan of my personal info being exposed to hackers and theives. The RROD can be fixed in a 3-4 weeks. My credit rating is another story.

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#3 Mystery_Writer
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RROD
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#4 Jamani
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PSN outage..everyone experienced that..not everyone experienced a RROD
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#5 mrmusicman247
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The one that prevented me from playing games.
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#6 FoolwithaLancer
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They were both terribl;e stains on both companys shirts, PSN outage did however leave personal info at stake while Sony didn't handle the situation well, so I'm going with that. Though not downplaying RRoD at all, Almost went to the point of selling my 360 and saving up for a PS3 when it happened.

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#7 Lto_thaG
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Both should've been avoided.

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#8 tempest91
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Both were terrible, but I would still say PSN. If you had a RROD, you could exchange it, send it out to be fixed/replaced, or if worse came to worse, buy a new or refurbished unit. Point being, you could still use an xbox. PSN was completely out for a month without an alternative. If you wanted to play online, you were just plain screwed. That plus RROD never gave out personal info to hackers either.

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#9 TrapJak
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Uhh... PSN was kinda bad, but we did have SP games to play.

RROD was bad , but at least none of our information got out.

Of course, Sony apologize with 4 free games and a 2 year security plan. MS just gave us what should've been included:A working 360.

So overall, the PSN outage was worse, but MS had the worst outcome.

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#10 BlackDevil99
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RROD by far, I don't even own a multiplayer game on my ps3, so i didn't miss the PSN one bit, but a week of no xbox was a far bigger concern

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#11 JohnF111
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Where's the "Pay to play what you paid for" option. If i still paid for XBL i'd have spend about £200 on it already. That annoyed me more than either PSN or RROD. But from the list i'd say RROD since hacking cannot be 100% protected against and the fact it was a huge coordinated attack and also the fact no one has had any credit card actually stolen, just a hashed number in place of it, and the hackers got just a phone book of info that everyone in Scotland already has about me even people i don't know and for all we know the hackers themselves already had my details all this time sitting beside their phone. :shock:

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#12 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Hard to say. It does bother me that the 360 was released with a known defect, though.

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#13 mrmusicman247
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Actually, I changed my mind. They're even.
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#14 Gamingclone
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Obviously the PSN outage, everyone in the Sony user base experienced it. While with the 360...

some people's 360 RRODed, but despite that, the users whose 360s did not RROD could still play their games online.

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#15 DarkLink77
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I didn't have to cancel my credit cards and change all of my passwords (because, in an incredibly stupid move, I used my real email address and personal information for PSN) when my Xbox broke.

Take a guess.

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#16 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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RROD. I never had it,but I can't imagine how annoying it would be

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#17 VensInferno
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IDK, during the PSN outage I really didn't give a #@(^. I didn't really play anything during that time. And I never expierenced a RROD .....

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#18 JohnF111
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I didn't have to cancel my credit cards and change all of my passwords (because, in an incredibly stupid move, I used my real email address and personal information for PSN) when my Xbox broke.

Take a guess.

DarkLink77

It wasn't a stupid move, i'm sure you've seen the "OMG i forgot my PSN DOB and email address help!!" threads.. Losing my account because of stupidity would be more annoying than a genuine loss.

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#19 Doolz2024
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PSN outage, obviously. I couldn't play awesome multiplayer games like Killzone 3 and Resistance 2 for a whole month! :lol:

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#20 TheEroica  Moderator
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Well considering every cow who never owned a 360 had 5 RROD's I'd say its gotta be RROD because of the laughable paradox it created....

Both sucked for those affected... both cost the companies millions and both were avoidable... its lose lose lose in this case.

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#21 tormentos
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I was much more pissed about the PSN outage. I'm not a fan of my personal info being exposed to hackers and theives. The RROD can be fixed in a 3-4 weeks. My credit rating is another story.

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The don't have a credit card or have credit period,your identity been stole from a console is a new concept,your identity been stolen from sites you buy online,been stolen from your house,wallet,or even your info been stolen from your mail are far more frequent and had happen to many more millions than those who use PS3. Imagine what happen to Heartland which is a company that handle credit card transactions,100 million accounts stolen and that is the company who handle transaction when you buy anything online,on a store or any were and it was on 2009 just 2 short years ago. Nothing online is secure.
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#22 silentnightmere
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PSN Outage. Anyone remember DRE's ??? yea console mess ups are bound to happen. So Il go with my info being at risk.
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#23 djsifer01
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Thats easy, RROD. I would rather have my online go down and still be able to play games than have a broken console and games i cant play.
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#24 JohnF111
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PSN Outage. Anyone remember DRE's ??? yea console mess ups are bound to happen. So Il go with my info being at risk. silentnightmere
Its always at risk. Nough said.
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#25 tormentos
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PSN Outage. Anyone remember DRE's ??? yea console mess ups are bound to happen. So Il go with my info being at risk. silentnightmere
DRE also happen on 360.
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#26 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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One breaks your console the other just prevents you from going online for a month.

I think the answer is obvious

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#27 Darkslayer16
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My 20+ dead 360s was more irritating then the PSN outage that had pretty much no effect on me.

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#28 TREAL_Since
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PSN Hacking = Potential loss of information such as DOB, mailing address. Potential risk of credit card theft (though no security codes were compromised). Gamers were affected with a big scare, and having to waitover amonth. Indie developers were hit more than gamers honestly. Recompense was given in the form of free PS+ sub, free games, and a year enrollment of aidentity theftprevention program. Sony also fixed the issue with better network security.

RROD = Shipped millions of consoles with known a defect. Millions of gamers were affected. Couldnt play their360 for weeks until it was fixed.In the beginning some people had to pay to repair their console. MS answered with recompense in the form of extended console warranty. MS also fixed the issue with better Elite models.

Verdit = both were bad. I was affected by both. For me, they were about even when all was said and done. All that happened to me was that I had to wait longer than I wanted in order to play my consoles. At least I got some free games with PSN :P. Though, my 360 constantly failing was very irritating, at least MS paid for their error.

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#29 WilliamRLBaker
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They are both horrible and they are both fixed now..so...

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#30 delta3074
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both are about even i would say.
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#31 TREAL_Since
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They are both horrible and they are both fixed now..so...

WilliamRLBaker

Haha, what I said but much more concise. I think its dead on.

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#32 el3m2tigre
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PSN fiasco is worse, but i was hardly raging over it. Didn't affect me at all.

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#33 Heroldp813
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They are both horrible and they are both fixed now..so...

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I know but which one was worse?

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#34 Genesis-X
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PSN affected everyone with a PS3. RROD did not happen to every 360. PSN outage was worse.
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#35 TREAL_Since
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PSN fiasco is worse, but i was hardly raging over it. Didn't affect me at all.

el3m2tigre

The potential danger was great, but in the end everything was pretty much rectified.

The only real problem for gamers was the actual wait. I have yet to hear of anyone who had their identiy stolen due to this incident. Actually, in order to have your identity stolen, yourSSN must be stolen. Sonynever asked for this information from their customers.As far as charges on CCs go, security codes on credit cards were not stored at all. And the numbers that were stored, werehashed for protection. Therefore, I don't think anything could have been used anyways.

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#36 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Genesis-X"]PSN affected everyone with a PS3. RROD did not happen to every 360. PSN outage was worse.

That's like saying the common cold is worse than cancer or AIDS
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#37 TheEroica  Moderator
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My 20+ dead 360s was more irritating then the PSN outage that had pretty much no effect on me.

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thats a good one... last post on the first page, and heeeeeres my proof.
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#38 Genesis-X
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Genesis-X"]PSN affected everyone with a PS3. RROD did not happen to every 360. PSN outage was worse.

That's like saying the common cold is worse than cancer or AIDS

Or that Stalin was worse than Hitler amirite?
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#39 Darkslayer16
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[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"]

My 20+ dead 360s was more irritating then the PSN outage that had pretty much no effect on me.

TheEroica

thats a good one... last post on the first page, and heeeeeres my proof.


What? I own 2 360s and the hardware was complete garbage in them. Between RROD, dead DVD drives and E74 I stopped counting at 20 dead 360 and buying a new 1 each time because the refurbished crap lasted even less then a new one.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

They are both horrible and they are both fixed now..so...

Heroldp813

I know but which one was worse?

The 360 RROD is worse. I'm sorry, but it is true. EVERYBODY I know with a 360 has had RROD and I can only imagine the reaction was similar to mine: Goes to turn on console to play some games...."huh? What teh f***? *googles* awe man?! Seriously? I just bought this thing not too long ago. This sucks."

PSN was horrid for those silly enough to put all there info in there.

The one positive that came out of the psn fiasco is that people can now see that stuff like this DOES happen, and shouldn't be so giving as far as personal info goes. It also probably made ms beef up their security as well.

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#41 DroidPhysX
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RROD didn't lose your personal info.

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#42 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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Well i didn't like the fact that my credit card info was stolen, though nothing happend to it. I'm still using the same credit card and everything is fine.

gaming wise, i don't play online so i really didn't care

I think i would have been more mad about waiting for my console to get repair

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#43 gago-gago
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Every single PS3 owner was affect by the outage, whether you had the old phat ones or whether you had the slims, you were affected. While some of the phat 360s were the only ones affected, the rrod was nomore with the slims.

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#44 hippiesanta
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Lord of the Red-RING-of-Death cost big money...... PSN outage however give use 4 free games and 1 month psn+ for free RROD lost
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#45 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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im lucky enough to only have oone rrod and i dont play much online so i guess the rrod but both were bad, my friend got the rrod 6 times hahaha so im quite grateful for just one
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RROD. I couldnt play my 360 at all. I could still play my PS3 offline. I'm speaking as guy who experienced both. :(
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For an individual, I imagine the RROD was worse, since they couldn't play anything, and it also showed them just how junky their $400 toy was. Additionally, the RROD was MS's own doing.

The PSN outage was the result of attacks from angsty hackers, and as such Sony wasn't directly responsible for it. It was certainly inconvenient, but the system itself still worked.

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I thought the PSN outage was funnier.
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#49 vashkey
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RROD was worse, obviously. Although losing your credit card information from the hacking obviously would have been worse than your 360 getting rrod.
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#50 vashkey
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For an individual, I imagine the RROD was worse, since they couldn't play anything, and it also showed them just how junky their $400 toy was. Additionally, the RROD was MS's own doing.

The PSN outage was the result of attacks from angsty hackers, and as such Sony wasn't directly responsible for it. It was certainly inconvenient, but the system itself still worked.

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I'd say Sony and Microsoft are both just as responsible. Microsoft should have built a better console and Sony should have made a more secure service.