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#51 Z0MBIES
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Halo: Reach, more owners to sell to that generally buy more games, and GT5 sales will suffer from competition and the fact that there aren't as many PS3's as there were PS2's. And Microsoft will make this seem like the second coming of Jesus... to the general public of course.
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#52 Malta_1980
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Depends on how large PS3's install base will be once GT5 hits the shelves..

We all know Halo:Reach is gonna sell like crazy even if 360's install base remains the current one, though it will increase by the time the game's released..

Personally I think it will be a tough fight, surely they got a copy for each already sold,cannot afford to miss such great titles so am definately getting BOTH :P

Finally i think bothhavea very strong change of selling 10+ million copies

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#53 Gundamforce
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Hopefully GT5 and not Halo Re-ac-hash.Odrec

Judging by your definition of "rehash", I don't think GT5 will be any different.

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#54 HuusAsking
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Could be tight. Several reasons. First, Halo sells regardless of generation. That's why Halo 2 sold well despite the original Halo already being out last gen. Now, Halo ODST's sales weren't blockbuster, but it also had low expectations. Reach is much more ambitious.

As for GT5, it now has serious competition. Forza is now an established name in the racing scene. Helping is the fact that not one but two Forzas have come out since GT4 (and it should be noted, GT3 was the best-selling GT to date--probably because it was bundled for a while--while GT4 took a major slide in sales). Now, if they bundle GT5 with slim PS3s, it'll probably be no contest. Otherwise...it could go either way, I think.

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#55 BloodSeeker1337
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Halo Reach For Sure. That Last Halo Game Is AAAE. Halo 3's Sales Was 8.1 Million + ODST Sales ;) Halo reach Will have Better Sales Than GT5 ;)
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#56 brennan7777
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Halo Reach For Sure. That Last Halo Game Is AAAE. Halo 3's Sales Was 8.1 Million + ODST Sales ;) Halo reach Will have Better Sales Than GT5 ;)BloodSeeker1337
Lol its not going to have 8.1 million + ODST sales because i bet the vast majority of ODST sales were from the 8.1 million.

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#57 BloodSeeker1337
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Halo Reach For Sure. That Last Halo Game Is AAAE. Halo 3's Sales Was 8.1 Million + ODST Sales ;) Halo reach Will have Better Sales Than GT5 ;)brennan7777

Lol its not going to have 8.1 million + ODST sales because i bet the vast majority of ODST sales were from the 8.1 million.

I think they were seperate
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#58 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Halo Reach For Sure. That Last Halo Game Is AAAE. Halo 3's Sales Was 8.1 Million + ODST Sales ;) Halo reach Will have Better Sales Than GT5 ;)BloodSeeker1337

Lol its not going to have 8.1 million + ODST sales because i bet the vast majority of ODST sales were from the 8.1 million.

I think they were seperate

So you're telling me that not a single person who bought Halo 3 bought ODST?

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#59 Rockman999
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People using GT 3/4 as examples need to look at some simple facts.

PS2- 120 million PS2's sold

PS3- 24-25 million

Halo 3 sold 10 million with 30 million sold

GT5P has sold what 4 million?

GT5 will sell 5-6 million best case scenario.

Reach will sell more then 5-6 million.

Fizzman

GT3 launched to a userbase of 12 million Ps2's and it reached 14 mill.The first GT's of a generation always sell the most.Don't give me that crap about it being bundled with the PS2 because Halo 3 was also bundled with 360's from very early on.

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#60 i_am_interested
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Halo Sales:
Halo: Combat Evolved (6+ million)
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo 3 (10+ million)
Halo 3: ODST (3 million)

Total = 24.1 million copies

Gran Turismo 10.850 million
Gran Turismo 2 9.370 million
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14.890 million
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1.560 million
Gran Turismo 4 "Prologue" 1.350 million
Gran Turismo 4 10.830 million
Gran Turismo 5 "Prologue" 4.170 million

Total: 53,020

The GT numbers are according to polyphony, someone check the halo numbers

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#61 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

People using GT 3/4 as examples need to look at some simple facts.

PS2- 120 million PS2's sold

PS3- 24-25 million

Halo 3 sold 10 million with 30 million sold

GT5P has sold what 4 million?

GT5 will sell 5-6 million best case scenario.

Reach will sell more then 5-6 million.

Rockman999

GT3 launched to a userbase of 12 million Ps2's and it reached 14 mill.The first GT's of a generation always sell the most.Don't give me that crap about it being bundled with the PS2 because Halo 3 was also bundled with 360's from very early on.

The previous-gen GTs also launched early in the generation, when excitement were high and competition was low (no Forza). Plus, last I checked, the Halo 3 bundle was a Limited Edition: nothing compared to bundling with every single PS2 sold for a year or so.
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#62 Kashiwaba
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Though I wish Halo reach flop in sales cuz I hate FPS games but I dont see GT5 outselling Halo reach I guess GT5 life time sales will be around 6~8 mils and Halo reach will be around 8~10 mils and who knows I might be wrong.

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#63 Sollet
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lulz at the amount of people that has no clue how BIG the GT series is. Yes it's even bigger than HALO.
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#64 Gundamforce
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lulz at the amount of people that has no clue how BIG the GT series is. Yes it's even bigger than HALO.Sollet

Sounds more like an opinion compared to the theories before you.

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#65 shawn7324
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Halo Sales:
Halo: Combat Evolved (6+ million)
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo 3 (10+ million)
Halo 3: ODST (3 million)

Total = 24.1 million copies

Gran Turismo 10.850 million
Gran Turismo 2 9.370 million
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14.890 million
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1.560 million
Gran Turismo 4 "Prologue" 1.350 million
Gran Turismo 4 10.830 million
Gran Turismo 5 "Prologue" 4.170 million

Total: 53,020

The GT numbers are according to polyphony, someone check the halo numbers

i_am_interested

You show the numbers as if a trend will easily continue, but GT isn't releasing to the largest install base this time around.

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#66 Floppy_Jim
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GT is bigger than Halo and GT5 releases sooner. So that. I'll contribute to Halo: Reach's sales though.

"Gran Turismo 4 "Prologue" 1.350 million
Gran Turismo 4 10.830 million
Gran Turismo 5 "Prologue" 4.170 million"

^People doubting GT5 should look at this.

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#67 shawn7324
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lulz at the amount of people that has no clue how BIG the GT series is. Yes it's even bigger than HALO.Sollet
So big it will even out the 6-7 million more available consumers the Xbox 360 console has to possibly purchase Halo Reach? I agree it is a huge game, but the odds are clearly not in its favor.
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#68 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

Halo Sales:
Halo: Combat Evolved (6+ million)
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo 3 (10+ million)
Halo 3: ODST (3 million)

Total = 24.1 million copies

Gran Turismo 10.850 million
Gran Turismo 2 9.370 million
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14.890 million
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1.560 million
Gran Turismo 4 "Prologue" 1.350 million
Gran Turismo 4 10.830 million
Gran Turismo 5 "Prologue" 4.170 million

Total: 53,020

The GT numbers are according to polyphony, someone check the halo numbers

shawn7324

You show the numbers as if a trend will easily continue, but GT isn't releasing to the largest install base this time around.

GT3 was released when PS2 install base was at 12 mils ==; do we have to say this 1000 times till people get it?

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#69 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

Halo Sales:
Halo: Combat Evolved (6+ million)
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo 3 (10+ million)
Halo 3: ODST (3 million)

Total = 24.1 million copies

Gran Turismo 10.850 million
Gran Turismo 2 9.370 million
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14.890 million
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1.560 million
Gran Turismo 4 "Prologue" 1.350 million
Gran Turismo 4 10.830 million
Gran Turismo 5 "Prologue" 4.170 million

Total: 53,020

The GT numbers are according to polyphony, someone check the halo numbers

Kashiwaba

You show the numbers as if a trend will easily continue, but GT isn't releasing to the largest install base this time around.

GT3 was released when PS2 install base was at 12 mils ==; do we have to say this 1000 times till people get it?

It was also released as the standard pack-in for a decent length of time. People could've been buying PS2s and gotten GT3 on the side rather than buying PS2s just to get GT3.

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#70 BloodSeeker1337
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"][QUOTE="brennan7777"] Lol its not going to have 8.1 million + ODST sales because i bet the vast majority of ODST sales were from the 8.1 million.

brennan7777

I think they were seperate

So you're telling me that not a single person who bought Halo 3 bought ODST?

:lol Sales: Halo 3 - 10.48 M Halo 3 ODST - 3.80 M ;)
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#71 Tykain
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Halo Reach in the US, GT5 worldwide.
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#72 Halo__Reach
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I'm pretty sure GT5. Mr_Cumberdale
and i am positive you are wrong. Halo reach will sell more in one month than gt5 sells all year
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#73 Wassmansdorff
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Halo Reach first week will outsell GT5 first week by 2:1.

That being said, GT5 will outsell Halo Reach by 2 million after 1 year.

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#74 Doolz2024
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Why not ask if GT5 will outsell Forza 3? This isn't a fair comparison. Anything Halo is going to sell milllions upon millions... because it's Halo.

GT5 is a racing game, and while it will sell a lot, it probably won't come close to Reach.

Now when it comes to Forza 3, I think GT5 will outsell it easily.

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#75 yoyo462001
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I understand why alot of people are saying it will sell loads because it did last but the only problem is this isnt last gen is it. FPS are the big franchises this gen only they can sell tonnes (including GTA of course) otherwise no game can sell cod standards. First the install base on the Ps3 is low second there are many other good racing games this gen sony really only has grip over 1 key market now (japan) i doubt even sony think they could take on reach yet alone outsell it..
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#76 KGB32
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it's weird to say this, but games like reach are more accessible, so i think reach.
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#77 roddollente
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People using GT 3/4 as examples need to look at some simple facts.

PS2- 120 million PS2's sold

PS3- 24-25 million

Halo 3 sold 10 million with 30 million sold

GT5P has sold what 4 million?

GT5 will sell 5-6 million best case scenario.

Reach will sell more then 5-6 million.

Fizzman

that's because it was bundled with the 360. had GT3 been bundled with the ps2, it'll be much more than what it sold.

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#78 mD-
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are you people kidding? It's going to be Reach at this point. It's the main game for the Xbox 360 next to Halo 3 and MW2. It's a FPS. The Xbox 360 is up 6 million in WW sales...

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#79 Wassmansdorff
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Why not ask if GT5 will outsell Forza 3? This isn't a fair comparison. Anything Halo is going to sell milllions upon millions... because it's Halo.

GT5 is a racing game, and while it will sell a lot, it probably won't come close to Reach.

Now when it comes to Forza 3, I think GT5 will outsell it easily.

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#80 Brainhunter
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Halo Reach should sell more. Both are strong, established IPs however, and will both do well commercially. However: 1) The 360 crowd are very loyal consumers to the Halo brand, much more so than the PS3 crowd with GT5. 2) 360 has a larger install base. 3) GT5 is a racer, Halo Reach is a shooter. The shooter genre in itself already sets itself up for bigger sales.
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#81 bigblunt537
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Halo Reach by far... Do you know why? Because times have changed and although GT used to be a huge seller they had near 100 million units sold to work with and we all know that 90% of xbox owners will be lined up 4 hours in advanced waiting for Halo Reach to release.

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#82 Adrian_Cloud
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How much did ODST and Halo Wars sell? I think i see a sales trend. http://www.taxigamer.com/PlayStation_3/Gran_Turismo_5/25644/video/482/Nissan_GT_Academy_Time_Trial_Indianapolis_Road_Course_Replay_.html
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#83 InfiniteBlak
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i think GT5 will. Although Reach will sell tons. why do i even care anyway?
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Hopefully GT5 and not Halo Re-ac-hash.Odrec

Oh you have got to be kidding me. Halo actually adapted new features with each installment of its series (from dual weilding, to vehicle jacking, to new weapons, to special equipment items, to forge mode, to theatre mode, to community sharing, to new multiplayer game modes, and so on).

What new features did GT series evolve in its game from over 6 installments? And I mean besides graphical enhancements? It actually took 5 iterations before we even saw online play for Pong's sake.

I guess the 'kettle and pot' proverb doesn't ring any bells for you, huh? :roll:

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#85 mitu123
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Hopefully GT5 and not Halo Re-ac-hash.Odrec
Just when you can't sink any lower...:lol:

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#86 Odrec
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[QUOTE="Odrec"]Hopefully GT5 and not Halo Re-ac-hash.AdobeArtist

Oh you have got to be kidding me. Halo actually adapted new features with each installment of its series (from dual weilding, to vehicle jacking, to new weapons, to special equipment items, to forge mode, to theatre mode, to community sharing, to new multiplayer game modes, and so on).

What new features did GT series evolve in its game from over 6 installments? And I mean besides graphical enhancements? It actually took 5 iterations before we even saw online play for Pong's sake.

I guess the 'kettle and pot' proverb doesn't ring any bells for you, huh? :roll:

The main difference between Halo 2, 3 and ODST I see is the 2, the 3 and the ODST. I expect that in Reach it will be the word Reach. It makes sense that no other GT iterations had online since online was never really developed last gens... duh.
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#87 skinny_man_69
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Answer is pretty obvious: Reach. GT5 will sell big, but it doesn't get much bigger than Halo. Other than Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto and MarioI would say Halo is the biggest name in gaming

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#88 hanslacher54
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US-Halo:Reach

Japan:GT5 by a lot

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#89 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

People using GT 3/4 as examples need to look at some simple facts.

PS2- 120 million PS2's sold

PS3- 24-25 million

Halo 3 sold 10 million with 30 million sold

GT5P has sold what 4 million?

GT5 will sell 5-6 million best case scenario.

Reach will sell more then 5-6 million.

roddollente

that's because it was bundled with the 360. had GT3 been bundled with the ps2, it'll be much more than what it sold.

GT3 was bundled with the PS2, and Halo 3 was only sold in limited quantities with the 360.

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#90 Tjeremiah1988
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GT appeals to more and I bet Reach will be a flop. Same old same old attitude people will have towards it. GT will be the first and last of this gen on console.
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#91 skinny_man_69
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GT appeals to more and I bet Reach will be a flop. Same old same old attitude people will have towards it. GT will be the first and last of this gen on console. Tjeremiah1988
Are you actually saying that a RACING SIM appeals to more people than a SHOOTER? Really weak argument there pal