Lets say PS4 is released. Since you are all convinced of this, I beg of you to answer this simple question. How will Sony attract the big ticket market of casual gamers? Please try and logically answer this, because if you can I will then maybe see why next gen will not be any different from this gen. Try not to avoid the question, try not to insult me because you have no answer, and if you dont have an answer just say so. Thanks...... OH yeah...
What will Sony do next gen to attract the casual crowd?
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Dance games.meetroid8
with Move?
Even if you trolling and youre a fanboy/hater ill "bite" and answer you. Sony can have a chance if introduce a nice console ( hardware ) at 299$$ ( 6core / 3GB ddr3 for example ) and 3-4 major titles ready on launch like UC4 , Jak and Daxter 4 , Monster Hunter 5 ( or a spin off of series or whatever to appeal to japanese ) and MGS5 , maybe pay Capcom for an exclusive similar to OKAMI 2 , LBP 3 and why not a few new ips.
Then i see it sale like oldschool PS consoles did.
They'll drop core games and close their studios like MS did and then try to mimic the Wii, just like MS is doing. Heil68
I think Sony already tried to mimmic with Wii and failed miserably with Move. So that answer is not valid.
Even if you trolling and youre a fanboy/hater ill "bite" and answer you. Sony can have a chance if introduce a nice console ( hardware ) at 299$$ ( 6core / 3GB ddr3 for example ) and 3-4 major titles ready on launch like UC4 , Jak and Daxter 4 , Monster Hunter 5 ( or a spin off of series or whatever to appeal to japanese ) and MGS5.AzatiS
ok that sounds like that system is catering to core gamers tho, what will they have to match Kinect for motion gaming? Move 2.0? They need something, or a copycat Kinect or Kinect itself?
Even if you trolling and youre a fanboy/hater ill "bite" and answer you. Sony can have a chance if introduce a nice console ( hardware ) at 299$$ ( 6core / 3GB ddr3 for example ) and 3-4 major titles ready on launch like UC4 , Jak and Daxter 4 , Monster Hunter 5 ( or a spin off of series or whatever to appeal to japanese ) and MGS5 , maybe pay Capcom for an exclusive similar to OKAMI 2 etc...
Then i see it sale like oldschool PS consoles did.
AzatiS
motion gaming wasnt around when oldschool consoles were around, its definitely a game changer and motion gaming attracts casuals the best obviously. If you look at this whole gen you will see the system that had motion gaming pulled out ahead, 1st wii, now 360 with Kinect.
[QUOTE="AzatiS"]
Even if you trolling and youre a fanboy/hater ill "bite" and answer you. Sony can have a chance if introduce a nice console ( hardware ) at 299$$ ( 6core / 3GB ddr3 for example ) and 3-4 major titles ready on launch like UC4 , Jak and Daxter 4 , Monster Hunter 5 ( or a spin off of series or whatever to appeal to japanese ) and MGS5 , maybe pay Capcom for an exclusive similar to OKAMI 2 etc...
Then i see it sale like oldschool PS consoles did.
ForzaGearsFace
motion gaming wasnt around when oldschool consoles were around, its definitely a game changer and motion gaming attracts casuals the best obviously. If you look at this whole gen you will see the system that had motion gaming pulled out ahead, 1st wii, now 360 with Kinect.
True but think about it for a sec. Why you think PS3 didnt sold as much , or even better than Wii ? Was because it lacked wii-mote? Dont think so.... Main reason was the price. Do you know that 650euros in some european regions , where PS brand is so popular , is like 2x months of work? Now if you add to that price the fact that didnt have any single "pusher" exclusive , more or less liek the ones i mentioned above.... Tell me a reason why someone , casual or not , buy a PS3? I used to be owner of PS1 since its day 1 and PS2...but i never bought a PS3...and im hardcore.
Release an Onlive/Wii U/Kinect/i Pad hybrid console that consists of a tablet that you can take on the go with you (OLED scren), can plug it in to your TV for full gaming experience(with an improvedDualshockcontroller), an improved PS Eye that competes with Kinect and an online component whose mechanic allow mods to be installed through software that enhances gameplay and seamlessstreams download-only games and does a lot of things..online wise...ala Onlive .
Everything starts with an idea. :P
Release an Onlive/Wii U/Kinect/i Pad hybrid console that consists of a tablet that you can take on the go with you (OLED scren), can plug it in to your TV for full gaming experience(with an improvedDualshockcontroller), an improved PS Eye that competes with Kinect and an online component whose mechanic allow mods to be installed through software that enhances gameplay and seamlessstreams download-only games and does a lot of things..online wise...ala Onlive .
Everything starts with an idea. :P
tonitorsi
its the first answer that I got that has some legs to it. Problem is what will be the hardware costs to do that? Its a start for sure, but I do see a problem that if they dont improve on Move which sadly is not doing anything compared to Wii or Kinect, I dont know what route they would good. Im sure they are themselves talking about this to each other in the war room. They could just very well stick with the PS3 at a real cheap price to try and compete with xbox 720 next gen which to be honest might not be the worst idea since the graphics and tech PS3 has is still good enough. Wii proved that having a hardware monster machine that can produce polygons out of its anus isnt a must.
A low price point, say $299 is a good starting point however the most important factor is MARKETING. Hire a good marketing firm or something, and spend money like Microsoft does when advertising Halo or Activision when releasing Infinity Ward. Halo is not a casual market game, but because of the marketing prowess that Microsoft possess, it certainly sells like hot cakes. Finally, I would try making everything about the console simple and sleek, it worked for Apple in all their products, it can work for Sony too. (I think it goes without saying, but have a good launch line up with variety of titles including older games and new IPs)Lets say PS4 is released. Since you are all convinced of this, I beg of you to answer this simple question. How will Sony attract the big ticket market of casual gamers? Please try and logically answer this, because if you can I will then maybe see why next gen will not be any different from this gen. Try not to avoid the question, try not to insult me because you have no answer, and if you dont have an answer just say so. Thanks...... OH yeah...
ForzaGearsFace
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]A low price point, say $299 is a good starting point however the most important factor is MARKETING. Hire a good marketing firm or something, and spend money like Microsoft does when advertising Halo or Activision when releasing Infinity Ward. Halo is not a casual market game, but because of the marketing prowess that Microsoft possess, it certainly sells like hot cakes. Finally, I would try making everything about the console simple and sleek, it worked for Apple in all their products, it can work for Sony too. (I think it goes without saying, but have a good launch line up with variety of titles including older games and new IPs)Lets say PS4 is released. Since you are all convinced of this, I beg of you to answer this simple question. How will Sony attract the big ticket market of casual gamers? Please try and logically answer this, because if you can I will then maybe see why next gen will not be any different from this gen. Try not to avoid the question, try not to insult me because you have no answer, and if you dont have an answer just say so. Thanks...... OH yeah...
killa4lyfe
its a good idea, but still remains how will you play Just Dance 5 on PS4? What would be the method of use for the motion gaming? Will the Eye be updated where it can detect 3d and depth? IF so then maybe, but again hardware cost would come into play and would be much higher than say a Kinect which would have been in development for a long time when the time comes and will be much cheaper to produce. At this point I dont know if SOny can take a loss with its new console considering the landscape of their financials. IF VITA really flops, thats even more pressure on the decision to produce the PS4...
4 of the top 5 threads are just anti Sony trolls who keep spamming the same questions and arguments:(
Why cant all the good posters just hang out at General Gaming forum.
4 of the top 5 threads are just anti Sony trolls who keep spamming the same questions and arguments:(
Why cant all the good posters just hang out at General Gaming forum.
Jolt_counter119
are you posting off topic? Are you trying to derail the thread? Either answer the question or keep moving. no one has trolled in this thread, try reading it. Good conversation going on right now.
[QUOTE="Heil68"]They'll drop core games and close their studios like MS did and then try to mimic the Wii, just like MS is doing. ForzaGearsFace
I think Sony already tried to mimmic with Wii and failed miserably with Move. So that answer is not valid.
they fail miserably? They didint even really tried. They only did it so they wouldnt stay behind. They succeded on making a very acurated motion controll but they had no intentions of making it the next big thing. They werent going to push it, it was more of a "Yeah here it is, and there you go. Oh and a couple of game for it too. OK bey". They didnt put alot of money into it and neither did they waste their time into trying to make it succesful. "Its a cool little neat option. if you want it, there it is."They are not going to force their devs to make a MOVE only game. To fail miserably they would of had to hope it would of been an extreme succes, put alot of effort into it, and market it to attract the casuals. And they didnt try to capture the casuals, all of the games that support MOVE arent casual games. The only did it to say "hey we can do it to and we wont be out done", and to spice things up.
do you have a hard on for sony or something? it seems their all you can talk about
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
[QUOTE="Heil68"]They'll drop core games and close their studios like MS did and then try to mimic the Wii, just like MS is doing. Nengo_Flow
I think Sony already tried to mimmic with Wii and failed miserably with Move. So that answer is not valid.
they fail miserably? They didint even really tried. They only did it so they wouldnt stay behind. They succeded on making a very acurated motion controll but they had no intentions of making it the next big thing. They werent going to push it, it was more of a "Yeah here it is, and there you go. Oh and a couple of game for it too. OK bey". They didnt put alot of money into it and neither did they waste their time into trying to make it succesful. "Its a cool little neat option. if you want it, there it is."They are not going to force their devs to make a MOVE only game. To fail miserably they would of had to hope it would of been an extreme succes, put alot of effort into it, and market it to attract the casuals. And they didnt try to capture the casuals, all of the games that support MOVE arent casual games. The only did it to say "hey we can do it to and we wont be out done", and to spice things up.
so they just made the move to have it around. Glad you arent running my company. They failed miserably compared to Kinect that is for sure.
A low price point, say $299 is a good starting point however the most important factor is MARKETING. Hire a good marketing firm or something, and spend money like Microsoft does when advertising Halo or Activision when releasing Infinity Ward. Halo is not a casual market game, but because of the marketing prowess that Microsoft possess, it certainly sells like hot cakes. Finally, I would try making everything about the console simple and sleek, it worked for Apple in all their products, it can work for Sony too. (I think it goes without saying, but have a good launch line up with variety of titles including older games and new IPs)[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"][QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
Lets say PS4 is released. Since you are all convinced of this, I beg of you to answer this simple question. How will Sony attract the big ticket market of casual gamers? Please try and logically answer this, because if you can I will then maybe see why next gen will not be any different from this gen. Try not to avoid the question, try not to insult me because you have no answer, and if you dont have an answer just say so. Thanks...... OH yeah...
ForzaGearsFace
its a good idea, but still remains how will you play Just Dance 5 on PS4? What would be the method of use for the motion gaming? Will the Eye be updated where it can detect 3d and depth? IF so then maybe, but again hardware cost would come into play and would be much higher than say a Kinect which would have been in development for a long time when the time comes and will be much cheaper to produce. At this point I dont know if SOny can take a loss with its new console considering the landscape of their financials. IF VITA really flops, thats even more pressure on the decision to produce the PS4...
You know sir you are a disgrace to humanity with the ammount of stupidity you polute the internet with. You know nothing about what it costs for sony to produce a console to specific things. And here you are acting like an expert on the matter. Why won't you be a good lemming and walk of a cliff? :P
Low price point. Sony needs to aim at the largest market and thats the $299 market, not necessarily the casuals. If Sony can make a good package with the right games at $299 even at a small loss, its perfect for the long run. Nonstop-Madness
going with a low price point is an idea, but i really dont know how they will use that to counter Kinect to be honest. They need something that is going to lure casuals. Its not all about dance games, the use of xbox live and voice and gestures that Kinect does also has Kinect luring in the casuals. I dont know but its the only way maybe Sony can go, but if it goes that way they will have a console that is not as powerful as the next xbox which will have some cows crying for sure.
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"][QUOTE="killa4lyfe"] A low price point, say $299 is a good starting point however the most important factor is MARKETING. Hire a good marketing firm or something, and spend money like Microsoft does when advertising Halo or Activision when releasing Infinity Ward. Halo is not a casual market game, but because of the marketing prowess that Microsoft possess, it certainly sells like hot cakes. Finally, I would try making everything about the console simple and sleek, it worked for Apple in all their products, it can work for Sony too. (I think it goes without saying, but have a good launch line up with variety of titles including older games and new IPs)USS_Data
its a good idea, but still remains how will you play Just Dance 5 on PS4? What would be the method of use for the motion gaming? Will the Eye be updated where it can detect 3d and depth? IF so then maybe, but again hardware cost would come into play and would be much higher than say a Kinect which would have been in development for a long time when the time comes and will be much cheaper to produce. At this point I dont know if SOny can take a loss with its new console considering the landscape of their financials. IF VITA really flops, thats even more pressure on the decision to produce the PS4...
You know sir you are a disgrace to humanity with the ammount of stupidity you polute the internet with. You know nothing about what it costs for sony to produce a console to specific things. And here you are acting like an expert on the matter. Why won't you be a good lemming and walk of a cliff? :P Hey come on now, no need to be mean, at least for this thread, he has been mildly mannered. :) To TC: I don't think it really needs to improve the Eye that much to be honest. Just Dance sells a lot better on the Wii than the 360 or PS3 but it doesn't use some super 3D camera to do so. Not to mention, Kinect comes at a higher price point than just the entry level 360. If Sony really wants to hit the casual market hard, then they would include the PSEye in the $299 entry point console they sell. The specs don't have to be amazing, even technology from 2008-2009 could really be sold under $299 with the PSEye for a profit. And like I said marketing is the important factor. The reason Halo/Kinect, Apple and Call of Duty are such highly regarded brands (at least sales wise) is because of the amazing marketing budgets and campaigns they have. :)
they fail miserably? They didint even really tried. They only did it so they wouldnt stay behind. They succeded on making a very acurated motion controll but they had no intentions of making it the next big thing. They werent going to push it, it was more of a "Yeah here it is, and there you go. Oh and a couple of game for it too. OK bey". They didnt put alot of money into it and neither did they waste their time into trying to make it succesful. "Its a cool little neat option. if you want it, there it is."[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
I think Sony already tried to mimmic with Wii and failed miserably with Move. So that answer is not valid.
ForzaGearsFace
They are not going to force their devs to make a MOVE only game. To fail miserably they would of had to hope it would of been an extreme succes, put alot of effort into it, and market it to attract the casuals. And they didnt try to capture the casuals, all of the games that support MOVE arent casual games. The only did it to say "hey we can do it to and we wont be out done", and to spice things up.
so they just made the move to have it around. Glad you arent running my company. They failed miserably compared to Kinect that is for sure.
I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
Same thing they're doing now, have a secondary controller for the Ps4 (Possibly similar to the Wii U's) maybe it'll support move too, but Sony's continued focus will be core gamers.
I also think the Ps4 won't cost anymore than $400.
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"] they fail miserably? They didint even really tried. They only did it so they wouldnt stay behind. They succeded on making a very acurated motion controll but they had no intentions of making it the next big thing. They werent going to push it, it was more of a "Yeah here it is, and there you go. Oh and a couple of game for it too. OK bey". They didnt put alot of money into it and neither did they waste their time into trying to make it succesful. "Its a cool little neat option. if you want it, there it is."
They are not going to force their devs to make a MOVE only game. To fail miserably they would of had to hope it would of been an extreme succes, put alot of effort into it, and market it to attract the casuals. And they didnt try to capture the casuals, all of the games that support MOVE arent casual games. The only did it to say "hey we can do it to and we wont be out done", and to spice things up.
Nengo_Flow
so they just made the move to have it around. Glad you arent running my company. They failed miserably compared to Kinect that is for sure.
I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
again poor business model if you ask me, also if you didnt know, SOny actually passed on Kinect before it came to Microsoft. So yeah I think Microsoft has made better decisions with their videogame model than the PS3 for awhile now.
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"] they fail miserably? They didint even really tried. They only did it so they wouldnt stay behind. They succeded on making a very acurated motion controll but they had no intentions of making it the next big thing. They werent going to push it, it was more of a "Yeah here it is, and there you go. Oh and a couple of game for it too. OK bey". They didnt put alot of money into it and neither did they waste their time into trying to make it succesful. "Its a cool little neat option. if you want it, there it is."
They are not going to force their devs to make a MOVE only game. To fail miserably they would of had to hope it would of been an extreme succes, put alot of effort into it, and market it to attract the casuals. And they didnt try to capture the casuals, all of the games that support MOVE arent casual games. The only did it to say "hey we can do it to and we wont be out done", and to spice things up.
Nengo_Flow
so they just made the move to have it around. Glad you arent running my company. They failed miserably compared to Kinect that is for sure.
I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"][QUOTE="killa4lyfe"] A low price point, say $299 is a good starting point however the most important factor is MARKETING. Hire a good marketing firm or something, and spend money like Microsoft does when advertising Halo or Activision when releasing Infinity Ward. Halo is not a casual market game, but because of the marketing prowess that Microsoft possess, it certainly sells like hot cakes. Finally, I would try making everything about the console simple and sleek, it worked for Apple in all their products, it can work for Sony too. (I think it goes without saying, but have a good launch line up with variety of titles including older games and new IPs)USS_Data
its a good idea, but still remains how will you play Just Dance 5 on PS4? What would be the method of use for the motion gaming? Will the Eye be updated where it can detect 3d and depth? IF so then maybe, but again hardware cost would come into play and would be much higher than say a Kinect which would have been in development for a long time when the time comes and will be much cheaper to produce. At this point I dont know if SOny can take a loss with its new console considering the landscape of their financials. IF VITA really flops, thats even more pressure on the decision to produce the PS4...
You know sir you are a disgrace to humanity with the ammount of stupidity you polute the internet with. You know nothing about what it costs for sony to produce a console to specific things. And here you are acting like an expert on the matter. Why won't you be a good lemming and walk of a cliff? :Pobviously I know more about this than you do, you seem mad? Guess I have made you look foolish more than once. Its ok, its common.
I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
so they just made the move to have it around. Glad you arent running my company. They failed miserably compared to Kinect that is for sure.
SPYDER0416
I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archives/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
18 million Kinects to lets say 9 million CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS. So that means the installed base of move is lets say 5 million. Thats being generous as well. That means the Kinect outsold the Move 3 to 1, almost 4 to 1, and the Move was released about a month or so earlier than Kinect. Also look at software sales, tell me one standalone Move game that has sold as much as Kinect SPorts or Dance Central series, heck tell me one that has sold more than 1 MILLION. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!... I love educating these wishful cows, im so good, oh yeah....
You know sir you are a disgrace to humanity with the ammount of stupidity you polute the internet with. You know nothing about what it costs for sony to produce a console to specific things. And here you are acting like an expert on the matter. Why won't you be a good lemming and walk of a cliff? :P[QUOTE="USS_Data"][QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
its a good idea, but still remains how will you play Just Dance 5 on PS4? What would be the method of use for the motion gaming? Will the Eye be updated where it can detect 3d and depth? IF so then maybe, but again hardware cost would come into play and would be much higher than say a Kinect which would have been in development for a long time when the time comes and will be much cheaper to produce. At this point I dont know if SOny can take a loss with its new console considering the landscape of their financials. IF VITA really flops, thats even more pressure on the decision to produce the PS4...
ForzaGearsFace
obviously I know more about this than you do, you seem mad? Guess I have made you look foolish more than once. Its ok, its common.
You made me look foolish more then once? Not that you make me look foolish but only yourself. But I'll humor you show me another tread where you made me look foolish and I will admit defeat if you can't you will be the idiot of the century.[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"][QUOTE="USS_Data"] You know sir you are a disgrace to humanity with the ammount of stupidity you polute the internet with. You know nothing about what it costs for sony to produce a console to specific things. And here you are acting like an expert on the matter. Why won't you be a good lemming and walk of a cliff? :PUSS_Data
obviously I know more about this than you do, you seem mad? Guess I have made you look foolish more than once. Its ok, its common.
You made me look foolish more then once? Not that you make me look foolish but only yourself. But I'll humor you show me another tread where you made me look foolish and I will admit defeat if you can't you will be the idiot of the century.you obviously are more obsessed about me than I of you. Well you are a nobody here maybe, and people know who I am? I dont know why you are so angry, but good luck with that. Sorry Sony is not doing well, try and stay on topic as well.. thanks
I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
so they just made the move to have it around. Glad you arent running my company. They failed miserably compared to Kinect that is for sure.
SPYDER0416
I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
thats wat Im trying to get across. SONY didnt really put any effort or really cared
But you this troll wants people to think SONY lost out $500 Billion on the MOVEand that the MOVE is a pile of crapp. But Kinect is the greatest thing on earth and will revolutionize gaming
A topic like this opens up more questions than answers and i think Sony know this.joojtzu
explain
You made me look foolish more then once? Not that you make me look foolish but only yourself. But I'll humor you show me another tread where you made me look foolish and I will admit defeat if you can't you will be the idiot of the century.[QUOTE="USS_Data"][QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
obviously I know more about this than you do, you seem mad? Guess I have made you look foolish more than once. Its ok, its common.
ForzaGearsFace
you obviously are more obsessed about me than I of you. Well you are a nobody here maybe, and people know who I am? I dont know why you are so angry, but good luck with that. Sorry Sony is not doing well, try and stay on topic as well.. thanks
Oh my are you like 8 years old? You think i am jealous because i'm not known on a internet forum? :lol: You just proved you are even below the rank of idiot and dumbass :lol:[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"] I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.
I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
Nengo_Flow
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
thats wat Im trying to get across. SONY didnt really put any effort or really cared
But you this troll wants people to think SONY lost out $500 Billion on the MOVEand that the MOVE is a pile of crapp. But Kinect is the greatest thing on earth and will revolutionize gaming
hey buddy give me 1 standalone Move game that sold over a milion aside from sports champions which was bundled with Move. So give me an aswer and tell me if you think its ok that not one standalone move game couldnt break 1 million in sales whereas Kinect has 5, and some of them reached 3 million. IF you cant answer this, you are the one who is being a pathetic troll. Let me know ok?
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"] I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.
I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
ForzaGearsFace
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archives/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
18 million Kinects to lets say 9 million CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS. So that means the installed base of move is lets say 5 million. Thats being generous as well. That means the Kinect outsold the Move 3 to 1, almost 4 to 1, and the Move was released about a month or so earlier than Kinect. Also look at software sales, tell me one standalone Move game that has sold as much as Kinect SPorts or Dance Central series, heck tell me one that has sold more than 1 MILLION. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!... I love educating these wishful cows, im so good, oh yeah....
Wat?
Awsome spin skills you got there.
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archives/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
Nengo_Flow
18 million Kinects to lets say 9 million CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS. So that means the installed base of move is lets say 5 million. Thats being generous as well. That means the Kinect outsold the Move 3 to 1, almost 4 to 1, and the Move was released about a month or so earlier than Kinect. Also look at software sales, tell me one standalone Move game that has sold as much as Kinect SPorts or Dance Central series, heck tell me one that has sold more than 1 MILLION. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!... I love educating these wishful cows, im so good, oh yeah....
Wat?
Awsome spin skills you got there.
dont choke on this h ttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
ForzaGearsFace
thats wat Im trying to get across. SONY didnt really put any effort or really cared
But you this troll wants people to think SONY lost out $500 Billion on the MOVEand that the MOVE is a pile of crapp. But Kinect is the greatest thing on earth and will revolutionize gaming
hey buddy give me 1 standalone Move game that sold over a milion aside from sports champions which was bundled with Move. So give me an aswer and tell me if you think its ok that not one standalone move game couldnt break 1 million in sales whereas Kinect has 5, and some of them reached 3 million. IF you cant answer this, you are the one who is being a pathetic troll. Let me know ok?
Wat why are you changing subjects and trying to change this around?
Im just telling you that the miserable failure you want people to think, in reality isnt even an issue, not for us, not for SONY.
Sony just threw it out there with little effort and made a couple bucks out of it with out even pushing it or marketing it.
[QUOTE="joojtzu"]A topic like this opens up more questions than answers and i think Sony know this.ForzaGearsFace
explain
Some People want a super powerful console which means a super expensive console which means casuals will fray away and Sony wont take a hit into their own pockets again. Adding gadgets and gizmos costs money too, If its not straight out the packet and usable then 3rd party developers wont touch it for instance how many 3rd party developers support Move, WM+, Kinect with games ?! I could go on but i dont think its just sony who are struggling to get the right mix but also MS and Nintendo. Its a hard task to give everyone what they want[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
18 million Kinects to lets say 9 million CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS. So that means the installed base of move is lets say 5 million. Thats being generous as well. That means the Kinect outsold the Move 3 to 1, almost 4 to 1, and the Move was released about a month or so earlier than Kinect. Also look at software sales, tell me one standalone Move game that has sold as much as Kinect SPorts or Dance Central series, heck tell me one that has sold more than 1 MILLION. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!... I love educating these wishful cows, im so good, oh yeah....
ForzaGearsFace
Wat?
Awsome spin skills you got there.
dont choke on this h ttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/
And in the meantime while you're masturbating over those Kinect numbers the PS3 gets a steady stream of worthwile core games. Tell me what does the 360 have this year which isn't Kinect shovelware?I know wat you are up to, and I know you are only saying this ti make SONY look even worst, but lest be honest and realistic........................ SONY didnt give a flyng f*ck about the Move.[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
so they just made the move to have it around. Glad you arent running my company. They failed miserably compared to Kinect that is for sure.
SPYDER0416
I know you want to make it sound like the had high hopes for it and they put all of the money they had left, along with their heart, sould and hopes into it hoping it would be a succeses but we all know it wasnt like that. The Move wasnt expensive to make, and it sold really well for a while, many people were surprised it was matching Kinect back in the summer and begining of fall, when Kinect had a hype train and huge marketing.
Also, Move failed horribly? For something Sony just tossed out there, it did shockingly close to Kinect in sales.
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/12/26/kinect-vs-move-one-year-later.aspx (stupid glitchspot won't let me link)
Move: 8.8 million shipped since launch
Kinect: 10 million shipped since launch
If Move failed horribly, then I guess Kinect did too judging by figures THAT close. Heck, Sony didn't even push move NEARLY that much :lol:
Looks like money wasted for MS, or maybe they needed to push it?
You do know that there are now 18 million Kinect's sold now, right? Epic fail on your part.
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
18 million Kinects to lets say 9 million CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS. So that means the installed base of move is lets say 5 million. Thats being generous as well. That means the Kinect outsold the Move 3 to 1, almost 4 to 1, and the Move was released about a month or so earlier than Kinect. Also look at software sales, tell me one standalone Move game that has sold as much as Kinect SPorts or Dance Central series, heck tell me one that has sold more than 1 MILLION. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!... I love educating these wishful cows, im so good, oh yeah....
ForzaGearsFace
Wat?
Awsome spin skills you got there.
dont choke on this h ttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/
you realize that your article is older then Spyder's by 1 year right? or do you not care.Edit:
"For sales, Microsoft reported in March 2011 it has shipped 10 million Kinect units worldwide since launch. It has not provided an update since. U.S. retail tracking firm NPD reported this month that 750,000 Kinects were sold during the week of Black Friday. Sony announced at E3 2011 it has shipped 8.8 million PlayStation Move controllers worldwide since launch, but has not provided an updated sales figure since."
Microsoft has said as of CES that they now have 18 million Kinects on the market. Sony has yet to update what the numbers are for the Move.
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
18 million Kinects to lets say 9 million CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS. So that means the installed base of move is lets say 5 million. Thats being generous as well. That means the Kinect outsold the Move 3 to 1, almost 4 to 1, and the Move was released about a month or so earlier than Kinect. Also look at software sales, tell me one standalone Move game that has sold as much as Kinect SPorts or Dance Central series, heck tell me one that has sold more than 1 MILLION. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!... I love educating these wishful cows, im so good, oh yeah....
ForzaGearsFace
Wat?
Awsome spin skills you got there.
dont choke on this h ttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/
1) Thats from 2010
2) That link isnt even talking about the "9millions CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS" bullsh*t comment you said
That article reall has nothing to do with anything you said?
What, were you hoping I wasnt going look at it?
Again, Awsome spin skills you got there.
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
Wat?
Awsome spin skills you got there.
SaudiFury
dont choke on this h ttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/
you realize that your article is older then Spyder's by 1 year right? or do you not care.Edit:
"For sales, Microsoft reported in March 2011 it has shipped 10 million Kinect units worldwide since launch. It has not provided an update since. U.S. retail tracking firm NPD reported this month that 750,000 Kinects were sold during the week of Black Friday. Sony announced at E3 2011 it has shipped 8.8 million PlayStation Move controllers worldwide since launch, but has not provided an updated sales figure since."
Microsoft has said as of CES that they now have 18 million Kinects on the market. Sony has yet to update what the numbers are for the Move.
you dont even know what we are talking about. CLUELESS
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]
Wat?
Awsome spin skills you got there.
Nengo_Flow
dont choke on this h ttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/
1) Thats from 2010
2) That link isnt even talking about the "9millions CONTROLLERS, not MOVES, but CONTROLLERS" bullsh*t comment you said
That article reall has nothing to do with anything you said?
What, were you hoping I wasnt going look at it?
Again, Awsome spin skills you got there.
ok buddy its 10 million to 8 million like you said, lol, you are some debater. Also yes Sony doesnt count sony move controllers as sales, they just count the bundle right? ok good logic, thanks for exposing my spin.
you realize that your article is older then Spyder's by 1 year right? or do you not care.[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
dont choke on this h ttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/
ForzaGearsFace
Edit:
"For sales, Microsoft reported in March 2011 it has shipped 10 million Kinect units worldwide since launch. It has not provided an update since. U.S. retail tracking firm NPD reported this month that 750,000 Kinects were sold during the week of Black Friday. Sony announced at E3 2011 it has shipped 8.8 million PlayStation Move controllers worldwide since launch, but has not provided an updated sales figure since."
Microsoft has said as of CES that they now have 18 million Kinects on the market. Sony has yet to update what the numbers are for the Move.
you dont even know what we are talking about. CLUELESS
did you run out of things to say?is the thread over?
we are waiting on you bro, its your turn make the next move. wat spins you got coming?
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