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dual screen gaming. ever since i have been playing on the ds i felt that dual screen gaming is the best experience wether is shows a detailed map or manage inventories, it is extremely helpful to have and give games a much better experience. the 3ds is an outstanding system because of it and im sure the wiiu will be an outstanding system as well. i cant wait for the wiiu first day buy for me.
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Nintendo games.
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i dont know could be a factor, but by the time you really start to see a well polished dev game for the WiiU, guess what, 720 is the talk
does 720 have nintendo games? no... then i stick with what demonjoe93 said. Graphics for nintendo games doesnt matterIf they are flocking to the 360, wouldn't we see it in the sales? Console sales are down for all of the big three.[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]
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it was doing pretty well not so long ago, but the Kinect came out and the casuals flocked to the 360
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I think its because the market is limited. I don't see the Wii selling more than 100 million.
the gen is winding down and 360 price point is very high
the 360 price point isn't very high. Why are those situations only applicable to the 360 but not a reason why wii sales are declining?The fact that it will actually have games? Also don't need to pay $60 a year for online play. I have my pc for multiplats/other games. Getting a 720 would just be redundant.
Nothing, noone will buy WiiU
I know i wont, there is not point
The next Zelda is coming in 2017 and after TP and SS i cant say i am holding my breath either
Zelda and FF have lost most of their appeal sadly
What will be a deciding factor? 1080P graphics? Is that really gonna get the customer to buy it, at 350 people are not just gonna go crazy for the WIIU unless it has something unique about, and or something powerful about it. Something that differs itself from the competition which in my opinion is the 360, which is why ultimately I cant take the WIIU seriously, because 720 is gonna demolish it in terms of power, and Kinect 2 will be heavily sought after, casuals and hardcores will eat up the 720. Anyway will Mario in 1080P be the selling point, I smell failure and im calling it, what about you guys that believe in it, can you change my mind? Gimme a try.
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Well first, the Xbox360 demolished the Wii in power and look who won that battle (in terms of sales). Raw power here is no indication of how well a system will do.
Secondly, the WiiU is going to have a headstart on the 720. Something the 360 had over the PS3 in terms of selling power. Casual gamers are impatient and rather than wait for the Kinect 2 they are going to pick up the WiiU. Why not? Mario 1080p is more of a selling point than you are giving it. There are millions of fans just waiting for Mario Kart U to come out as well as Zelda U and Mario Galaxy U and so on. That's not to say that the 720 will do badly, but Ninty is doing the right things and the 360 is racing to catch up. Will it do it with the 720? Maybe maybe not. But success for MS means more of a failure for Sony than for Ninty.
-Nintendo games-The best looking multiplatform games
-New gameplay genres which will be exclusive to the platform
-Lastly, the wiiu will likely have an attractive $299 to $399 launch price. Coinsiding with this is the length of the current gen and how much money people are willing to put into games these days. Being a multi platform owner is not uncommon anymore. People are ready for something new, I think. The year head start could potentially leave the consumer thinking, "well, now do I buy a ps4 or 720 to go along with my wiiu."Heirren
I agree. The only reason I have a Xbox 360 for this generation besides a Wii was because of the tons of 3rd party games that the Wii didn't have.
Now that Nintendo is on the HD bandwagon with Wii U & is guaranteed to receive good 3rd party support, along with Nintendo's superior 1st party games, there's probably no reason for anyone like myself to own either a PS4 or Xbox 720.
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What will be a deciding factor? 1080P graphics? Is that really gonna get the customer to buy it, at 350 people are not just gonna go crazy for the WIIU unless it has something unique about, and or something powerful about it. Something that differs itself from the competition which in my opinion is the 360, which is why ultimately I cant take the WIIU seriously, because 720 is gonna demolish it in terms of power, and Kinect 2 will be heavily sought after, casuals and hardcores will eat up the 720. Anyway will Mario in 1080P be the selling point, I smell failure and im calling it, what about you guys that believe in it, can you change my mind? Gimme a try.
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Why should any of us care about changing your mind about anything? Good for you and the internet moves on.
Also, you're talking about a non-existent device that you're imagining will be a certain way (720) and a device with very little details (Wii U) yet you're acting like you have conclusive evidence to support X side of a debate and wanting others to come up with information to support Y side of a debate when there really isn't much information about either device.
wii U was announced last E3 and it was lauded as best in the show, a year later and we finally get specs, the rumors arent good about specs and i think i have a pretty good eye for this kinda stuff. I wonder tho how will the WiiU sell, i dont like the 0release date at all, and yes i dont see it being sucessful but i could be wrong, xbox is winning and i think next gen they are in the strongest position, but unlike SONY who screwed up royally this gen, they will build strong. Of course its my prediction, but Im not wrong, and I have predicted things you would of probably laughed off!!!
You didn't state any facts at all in that post. Your opinion is interesting to read though.
Nintendo first party games. I defy you to find me Zelda or Super Smash on an Xbox.charizard1605
I defy you to find me a Halo or Forza on the Wii... :|
The bottom line is when comparing just the wii vs 360.. the 360 demolishes the wii in terms on overall library. The question remains.. will the Wii-U secure enough 3rd party software to "lure" customers away from the 360.. probably not but I know one that may buy one.. :P
-The strongest 1st party in the industry
-the tablet controller and its streaming capabilities
-backwards compatibiltity with a large library of Wii games (and hopefully goes back to GCN as well)
*****PIKMIN 3***** :P
Posting in a FGF thread with serious discussion going on ...
this marks the start of a new leaf for SW.
Nintendo first party games. I defy you to find me Zelda or Super Smash on an Xbox.charizard1605Darksiders, XBLA version of Powerstone But other than that, no. They lost the casuals, so if they don't want another GC or worse, they will need to use more of their franchises/IPS evenly to gain traction when the Wii U comes out. Mario will not do it anymore. Wii series also had the fastest profit drop i have seen in video games in awhile (the other 5 being on Ps3 and 360)
Xboxlive over the life of the console will cost more than the Wii U , and there is nothing stopping them from raising that price again.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Nintendo first party games. I defy you to find me Zelda or Super Smash on an Xbox.ForzaGearsFace
I dont think it will be enough.
They've been enough for every single Nintendo console.[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Nintendo first party games. I defy you to find me Zelda or Super Smash on an Xbox.nintendofreak_2
I dont think it will be enough.
They've been enough for every single Nintendo console. When did this happen? the GC was the only time where third-parties or sucess of the last system didn't transfer over and all they had to go with was first-party support to gain any traction and look where that ended up.When did this happen? the GC was the only time where third-parties or sucess of the last system didn't transfer over and all they had to go with was first-party support to gain any traction and look where that ended up.ContainmomentumYeah it was enough to make the GC profitable and sell over 20 million units so Nintendo could stay in the console races. Nintendo games have appeal that other games just don't have and you pretty much just proved my point, because no other console could get over 20 million just off of first party support.
Yeah it was enough to make the GC profitable and sell over 20 million units so Nintendo could stay in the console races. Nintendo games have appeal that other games just don't have and you pretty much just proved my point, because no other console could get over 20 million just off of first party support. No it wasn't if the GBA hadn't backed up the fast falling progress they would have 2 systems now actually generating back-up profit and they both would have started selling at a loss by the end of the 2nd year. Also to add, 3rd-parties started to be the number one console movers (except maybe brawl) by the last few years. This is why even though the Xbox ended early the GC still ended up in last place as well. No, Nintendo games do not have a magical appeal you made up. No one should like a company that much to believe that before it starts scaring people and bordering obsession.[QUOTE="Containmomentum"]When did this happen? the GC was the only time where third-parties or sucess of the last system didn't transfer over and all they had to go with was first-party support to gain any traction and look where that ended up.nintendofreak_2
No it wasn't if the GBA hadn't backed up the fast falling progress they would have 2 systems now actually generating back-up profit and they both would have started selling at a loss by the end of the 2nd year. Also to add, 3rd-parties started to be the number one console movers (except maybe brawl) by the last few years. This is why even though the Xbox ended early the GC still ended up in last place as well. No, Nintendo games do not have a magical appeal you made up. No one should like a company that much to believe that before it starts scaring people and bordering obsession. ContainmomentumIf the GC hadn't have sold as much as it did, Nintendo might not have been able to stay in the console race and would have had to go handheld only. Investors and shareholders aren't going to support a sequel to a system that does poorly.
I'm not making this appeal up, the numbers speak for themselves. The GC got to 20 million because of the first party games it had. You yourself said it had no third party support. That means the only thing moving the system was first party games.
Trolling? If not, think of how the Wii dominated this gen inarguably with sales and arguably with games. Nintendo's first party has stood up to basically anything so what's going to set it apart? The games. That's generally what sets systems apart, if not, they're not really game systems any more are they? Plus the tablet controller has even more potential than the Wii controller had, although this time tech is up to scratch. You can claim it'll be a failure all you like, when kinect 2 fails miserably like it's bound to and ms's next console dies because of it's reliance on retarded controls, and sony makes the next evolution in it's playstation line which will probably go the same way ps3 went ... downwards, The Wii U will stand above them all.What will be a deciding factor? 1080P graphics? Is that really gonna get the customer to buy it, at 350 people are not just gonna go crazy for the WIIU unless it has something unique about, and or something powerful about it. Something that differs itself from the competition which in my opinion is the 360, which is why ultimately I cant take the WIIU seriously, because 720 is gonna demolish it in terms of power, and Kinect 2 will be heavily sought after, casuals and hardcores will eat up the 720. Anyway will Mario in 1080P be the selling point, I smell failure and im calling it, what about you guys that believe in it, can you change my mind? Gimme a try.
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Their first party games in HD glory, thats the only reason why I am going to get a Nintendo console again in years.
Plus, its the first next-gen console and is a change from the outdated HD brothers.
Just bring the big boys @E3 and Im sold.
All nintendo need is announce one of these three first party games is coming this holiday season plus all the third party big games and IM SOLD.
Well the Wii U will have exclusives, which is very important. Something the 360 is in very short supply these days.
But you Lems can keep telling yourselves "exclusives don't matter exclusives don't matter" if it makes you sleep well at night. Just don't get all Jelly when the WiiU and PS3 get better games than you do.
What will be a deciding factor? 1080P graphics? Is that really gonna get the customer to buy it, at 350 people are not just gonna go crazy for the WIIU unless it has something unique about, and or something powerful about it. Something that differs itself from the competition which in my opinion is the 360, which is why ultimately I cant take the WIIU seriously, because 720 is gonna demolish it in terms of power, and Kinect 2 will be heavily sought after, casuals and hardcores will eat up the 720. Anyway will Mario in 1080P be the selling point, I smell failure and im calling it, what about you guys that believe in it, can you change my mind? Gimme a try.
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Non Kinect exclusives.
More up to date hardware.
Touch screen pad.
NFC tech.
Nintendo games.
Wii Remote/+
Acceptable failure rates?
You're assuming the 720 will be so much more powerful than the WiiU that people will be able to tell the difference... if that's the case I'm sure the $350 price will be much better looking than the $500 price tag. Nintendo's exclusive games are the best out there; Super Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, SSB, Mario Kart, Metroid, Donkey Kong... the list goes on. Plus I'm willing to bet the WiiU will have a quality version of all the major multiplaform games this time. The tablet controller just plain looks like a really cool idea too.
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