What would MS have to do to reclaim North America.

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#51 Chutebox
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@nyadc said:
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@nyadc: Look dude, I personally don't care who has the most sales. When they compete hard, we all win. I'm just calling it the way I see it. Pretty much the way anyone who isn't personally connected to either side would, and does.

There's your problem

The way I see things is much more accurate and coherent than from where you're sitting, pal. Not being all up Microsoft's or Sony's bunghole is proof of that.

All he does is peddle MS BS. Although I don't agree with you about MS being done in NA yet, he is the last person that will budge away from MS. Hell, this is the same person who said it was good that MS released MCC in the state it was and also said it was entirely possible for X1 to catch PS4 WW THIS YEAR. He's a joke.

B4X has cleaned up his act though, surprisingly.

I didn't say TMCC releasing in that state was good, I said it was understandable. As far as the world wide thing I did say that, I figured people would stop soaking up so much idiotic marketing and internet buzz but rather look into things for themselves, obviously relying on people to make smart or informed decisions is unrealistic.

Also I'm not B4X.

Ok, it was understandable. Just as idiotic. Let me translate the rest. "Waaawaaaawaaa. People like PS4 more than my system of choice, waaaawaaaa."

Also, sure you're not B4X. Totally believe you. Sorry about your Bears.

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#52  Edited By Chutebox
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@oflow said:
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It's too late for that. Xbox lost, just accept it lems. Xbox may win October with Halo 5 but they are gonna get crushed in Nov and Dec when the Star Wars Battlefront 3 and Black Ops 3 PS4 bundles are out. Halo is big but it's not Star Wars/COD big. Xbox will never get the NA back from PS4.

yeah Battlefront is already confirmed to be kinda ass and both of those games are also on Xbox. You're grasping at straws trying to compare those games to Halo. Now cows are trying to play the dudebro card. PS4 doesnt have a huge lead in NA, its less than a million and they might get lapped during the holiday season with Halo and RotTR coming for XMas.

I can tell you're not a runner because you used the word "lapped" incorrectly.

passed then and technically it could be lapped if x1 doubles their sales during the holidays. now cows are fucking grammar nazis too. no wonder everyone hates you guys.

I dont run I ride bikes and race sportbikes. I know what lapped means poindexter.

You know what it means yet used it incorrectly? Why would you do that?

Just because I correct you doesn't make me a cow. Not going to get in an argument about that though.

Also, take a joke bud. All is fun here.

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#53 NyaDC
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@Chutebox said:

Ok, it was understandable. Just as idiotic. Let me translate the rest. "Waaawaaaawaaa. People like PS4 more than my system of choice, waaaawaaaa."

Also, sure you're not B4X. Totally believe you. Sorry about your Bears.

What bears?

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#54 drummerdave9099
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They're doing plenty of good- they're getting games on the platform, they're advertising, they're keeping the price competitive, they're releasing lots of new bundles, and they're adding new features.

I'm not sure if they will ever catch up though, PS4 is on a roll so far this gen.

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#55 Razik
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Maybe MS should focus on Weeaboo games they might be more popular than we realise in NA

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#57 intotheminx
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Start advertising the Madden bundle during football games.

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#58 Legend002
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PS4 is better than XO so it makes sense that it loses everywhere. There's nothing MS can do but congratulate Sony each time they are salty.

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#59 NyaDC
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@Legend002 said:

PS4 is better than XO so it makes sense that it loses everywhere. There's nothing MS can do but congratulate Sony each time they are salty.

No

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#60  Edited By Gue1
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Talking more for a world wide aspect since America alone doesn't cut it if you really want a healthy business. I mean MS are multinational company, they should always aim for the world!

The Xbone brand is tainted bro. The only way to fix that shit I think is by pulling a Sony, that even when they were behind with the PS3 they kept releasing exclusive after exclusive. Some of them flopped some of them succeeded but it was relentless.

Maybe release a Slim and try to re-brand it like Sony did too. And try to market the Xbox not as a powerhouse or a media center nor something that gamers need but as something that they would want and to do that they should start by stop relaying on Halo and Forza and the same old franchises ala Nintendo. They need to get more diverse so they can attract more people other than the dudebros. I mean, when was the last time MS invested on something like Journey or Shadow of the Colossus or Sony's Siren?

Phil Spencer is good, at least much better than the suit with no charisma that Sony chose for Playstation to replace the always godlike Jack Tretton, but being humble is not enough. They need to listen and deliver. It's true they dropped the original model they were gonna follow but it was after an absolute massive backslash and it shouldn't be like that. That doesn't inspire much confidence you know.

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#61  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Its gonna get crazy up in this beast when Halo 5 releases. I can see Microsofts advertisement now, "Thank you fans for your support, now enjoy the biggest AAA exclusive of current gen." or the, "Greatest arrives at Microsoft, enjoy the epic Halo 5 today."

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#62 DaVillain  Moderator
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Meh, I honestly don't care if Xbox One is number one or not, gamers will buy whatever they see what's coming from both PS4/Xbox One but at the end of the day, gamers are winners, not the consoles themselves. Granted, I enjoy the big 3 consoles so far and really don't have a beef one another.

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#63 Ten_Pints
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The one thing that always works in the US at least is price, if it was half the price of the Ps4 it might stand a chance.

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#64 EG101
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I believe if MS can develop these games they would be in Great shape for a come back:

AAA Banjo Platformer

AAA Conker

3rd Person Perfect Dark in the mold of UC and Tomb Raider

Shangheist game they were working on

Bring back PGR Racing as Forza Gotham Racing

Bring back Rallisport as Forza Ralli SPORT

New Kung Fu Chaos game

Also a couple of OG Xbox remasters could help

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#65  Edited By RTUUMM
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M$ should literally bundle in Doritos and MntDew in their Halo Bundle.

And put free coupons for Doritos and MntDew inside Halo disc cases.

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#66 BobRossPerm
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The general consensus in the US will always be the PS4 first, and Xbox One second. MS will provide some tempting price tags from time to time but I doubt they will gain a stronghold in the US for good. Even if they drop the price again, nothing is stopping the PS4 doing the same if they are loosing too much marketshare for their liking. At the same price, the PS4 is seen as the better product.

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#67 LJS9502_basic
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Accept second place....

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#69 oflow
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@RTUUMM said:

M$ should literally bundle in Doritos and MntDew in their Halo Bundle.

And put free coupons for Doritos and MntDew inside Halo disc cases.

Yeah thats what Sony is doing in their Black Ops III deal you must not have seen the memo.

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#70 Suppaman100
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@nyadc said:

They just have to keep doing what they currently are, people are/will eventually wake up to the reality that Sony is actually beginning to lag behind in the development of their console. Both sides have good games so that's a non-factor, what it's really coming down to is the console itself, the value and what it has to offer.

What? PSN had a big update recently and PS4 is factually stronger than Xbone.

Wut u smoking lemming?

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#71  Edited By emgesp
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Make future Rockstar games exclusive. That is about all they could do to turn things around.

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#72 Razik
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If Halo 5, Forza 6, Gears, Rise of the Tombraider can't beat Disgaea 5, Dragon Quest Warriors and help X1 catch up with PS4 this Holiday, MS should buy SE and Atlus

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#73  Edited By NyaDC
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@Suppaman100 said:
@nyadc said:

They just have to keep doing what they currently are, people are/will eventually wake up to the reality that Sony is actually beginning to lag behind in the development of their console. Both sides have good games so that's a non-factor, what it's really coming down to is the console itself, the value and what it has to offer.

What? PSN had a big update recently and PS4 is factually stronger than Xbone.

Wut u smoking lemming?

They just had a novel size update that didn't really do a lot, don't blow things out of proportion. Also no one is debating which one is more powerful, it seems like you people always fall back on that bullshit when you can't understand something... At this point the Xbox One is a more developed console and Microsoft is walking away from Sony in terms of platform development, it's happening, it's been happening for a long time now....

Wut u smoking cow?

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#74 blackace
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@Bigboi500 said:
@blackace said:

Release an XB1 Slim bundle at $250 and market it to death for the holidays. I think they will eventually catch the PS4 in the U.S. They just need more quality exclusives and a competitive price that will draw more gamers in. They aren't going anywhere though. The Wii U is the one you need to worry about.

Stop trying to hide behind "bu but da Wii U!" we all know Wii U is dead in the US and UK. Face it, the XB1 can do nothing to "reclaim NA". Exclusives aren't going to put it back on top here, and neither will bundles. PS4 won the region, so just accept it.

Hhhmm.. they will reclaim the U.S. The PS4 isn't that far ahead in the U.S. The generation isn't over yet. Will see where the PS4 is in the US at the end of the generation.

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#75 Ghost120x
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Well they just need to make games that appeal to the american audience more and pray that they are successful. They need to take more risks on first party development and find this generations "Halo." Also they have the minecraft devs which I'm sure MS has them making some exclusive game for the Xbox one as we speak. With "From the makers of Minecraft" on the box they are sure to sell a couple million boxes based off that lol.

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#76  Edited By Heil68
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At this point a substantial price drop over PS4. Problem is Sony , I think would react and drop the price of the PS4, like the rumor of the upcoming $349.

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#77 BigKingCheese
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They can't. Xbone is done. No games, gimmicky features, toxic community. MS should move on at the nearest opportunity.

@noeffectz said:

MS just bought Havok. Clearly, they are just getting started.

Better stick Havok on the chalkboard!

@oflow said:

PS4 doesnt have a huge lead in NA, its less than a million and they might get lapped during the holiday season with Halo and RotTR coming for XMas.

Xbox drones were saying this last year too.

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#78 Daious
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@nyadc said:
@kratosyoloswag said:

As a huge Xbox fan it pains me to say this but Phil Spencer already threw in the towel. Xbox needs a new leader and frankly I think I'd do a much better job. To answer your question, if I was the new Xboss, MS would reclaim not just NA but the whole world.

You sound like a person who has no idea what he's talking about, what Phil Spencer is doing or how to run a business.

you are getting baited

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#79 NyaDC
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@daious said:
@nyadc said:
@kratosyoloswag said:

As a huge Xbox fan it pains me to say this but Phil Spencer already threw in the towel. Xbox needs a new leader and frankly I think I'd do a much better job. To answer your question, if I was the new Xboss, MS would reclaim not just NA but the whole world.

You sound like a person who has no idea what he's talking about, what Phil Spencer is doing or how to run a business.

you are getting baited

I'm dismissing him and what he's saying, I'm not getting baited.

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#80 Atomic1977
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Microsoft all ready has claimed North America almost everyone uses windows 8.1 or Windows 10 by now or some windows product.

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#81 Notorious1234NA
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batman thread lets go: