What would the world be like without consoles?

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#1 dom2000
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A better happier healthier place? More than likely! And how would their non existance effect pc games? Would graphics now be at a higher level? Or would pc games be much less advanced? I personally think consoles...while dumbing down a number of pc franchises for retarded console masses...have hada positive effect on gaming in general (duh)...and its clear if they had never been made much less money would be spent on gaming, and so much less people wud decide to make game development their career.....and much less money would be spent by Ati/nvidia making the latest and greatest graphics cards! What do you hardcore hermits that are constantly belittling consoles and boasting about how much better pc gaming is in every single way imaginable think?

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#2 Firebird-5
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there would be world peace, no hunger, and there would be cures for AIDS and cancer

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#3 peterw007
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There would be no Nintendo, and thus, the world would be a worse place to live in.

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#4 GreenGoblin2099
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People would fight over ATI vs Nvidia.

No one's ever happy.

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#5 Heil68
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Games would start getting better, more challenging AND cheaper.
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#6 Puckhog04
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Yes, GPU makers forcing us to upgrade with their games because there are zero other options (since there would be no Consoles) to gaming would be a wonderful world. Hey, more logic. We need more of this in System Wars. :roll:

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#9 DillonShwing
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Gaming would have died without consoles.

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#11 lowe0
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My take:

Consoles had their place, but they've outlived their purpose. A PC is better suited for any task performed by today's consoles. You like sitting on your couch looking at an HDTV with a wireless controller in your hands? An HTPC in your living room could fulfill that role. We'd all be better off as all software would be available on a single platform.

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There's a difference between doing something and being designed to do it. There are little touches like powering on/off from the gamepad, HDMI-CEC support, and a UI designed for use from a couch with a gamepad that make a real difference in usability. Beyond that, putting a single platform vendor in charge allows for a consistent user experience - every game is required to support a gamepad (unless it requires a specific peripheral), your friends list is the same in every single game, you have one account to sign into (barring the odd exception like FFXI or MGO), you have a single digital storefront, and games and content have to be tested and certified before they can be released. Now, could the PC be made to do all these things? Sure, most of what I mentioned is software. But it doesn't, and no amount of saying "you can plug a PC into a TV and use a gamepad" will change that. I choose my platform for what it does, not what it could be made to do.
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Now, could the PC be made to do all these things? Sure, most of what I mentioned is software. But it doesn't, and no amount of saying "you can plug a PC into a TV and use a gamepad" will change that. I choose my platform for what it does, not what it could be made to do.

You're drawing a very fine, almost irrelevant line with your last statement. I mean, for the most part; a platform does what you make it do. A PC can be whatever you want it to be, and it can do whatever you want it to do, provided you make it so that it can do what you want it to do before hand. A PC can provide all of the unified services you ask for, as you recognized. There isn't a single thing a console can do that a PC cannot do, often times better. The only reason your PC doesn't do these things is because you purchased one which does not do these things. One may be purchased which does do these things. But that is a seperate discussion to the one at hand. Gaming would definitely be a far different place. I mean, most of the cyclical crashes have come from over crowding of the market thanks to wide spread consumer introduction to gaming and over saturation of product. (Caused by consoles) At the same time, first party publishers have fostered a great environment for games which would have probably been regulated to being far more independent and no where near as grandiose. A game like Demon Souls, while possible in the absence of consoles, definitely would not have come out as polished as it had. At the same time, the absence of consoles would probably foster an even greater shift to indie development on the PC and eventually lead to more unique ideas in the market place due to low production values. Although, depending on how much of the console gamer audience would have shifted over to the PC there might not be a great audience to buy all these games, and saturation may still occur and fewer games made. It is ultimately pure conjecture what would happen without consoles. In order to have even the vaguest clue we would need to know how much the PC community would grow as a result.
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Instead of console wars, it would be hardware wars

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#15 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]I choose my platform for what it does, not what it could be made to do.Ginosaji

If a PC can be made to perfork a task, it does that task. I don't see the distinction. Are you referring solely to ease of use? Because I've never found installing a game or configuring a game pad to be a particularly daunting task.

I'm referring to features that could technically be implemented on a PC, but aren't in demand by the market. A UI designed for gamepads or a single certification authority would certainly fall within that category. No company is going to implement a PC the way I'd like, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to make the PC into what I want when a suitable platform already exists.
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#16 OneSanitarium
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Arcades would still exist. :o

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#17 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Ginosaji"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I choose my platform for what it does, not what it could be made to do.lowe0

If a PC can be made to perfork a task, it does that task. I don't see the distinction. Are you referring solely to ease of use? Because I've never found installing a game or configuring a game pad to be a particularly daunting task.

I'm referring to features that could technically be implemented on a PC, but aren't in demand by the market. A UI designed for gamepads or a single certification authority would certainly fall within that category. No company is going to implement a PC the way I'd like, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to make the PC into what I want when a suitable platform already exists.

Companies have already made unified services like that for places like Internet Cafes. There was one cafe I used to go to back in the day which had a unified VOIP, friends list, and all the regular stuff you find on consoles which made it easy to have custom controller set ups for every single game on the PC.
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#18 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Ginosaji"]

If a PC can be made to perfork a task, it does that task. I don't see the distinction. Are you referring solely to ease of use? Because I've never found installing a game or configuring a game pad to be a particularly daunting task.

Vandalvideo

I'm referring to features that could technically be implemented on a PC, but aren't in demand by the market. A UI designed for gamepads or a single certification authority would certainly fall within that category. No company is going to implement a PC the way I'd like, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to make the PC into what I want when a suitable platform already exists.

Companies have already made unified services like that for places like Internet Cafes. There was one cafe I used to go to back in the day which had a unified VOIP, friends list, and all the regular stuff you find on consoles which made it easy to have custom controller set ups for every single game on the PC.

Hardly the user experience I'm looking for, or the one being discussed. We're talking about my living room, not an internet cafe - note that the post I replied to specifically proposed an HTPC. Besides, what good would it do me to buy a custom solution? There's no one to force developers to support it. On a console, if you don't use the console's identity manager, if you don't support the console's gamepad, if you don't submit your app for testing, you don't get to release. Without somebody to crack the whip, developers and publishers aren't required to standardize on something like Steam or support gamepads, motherboard manufacturers aren't required to implement starting up from a gamepad, OS vendors aren't required to produce a shell designed for a gamepad, and video card manufacturers aren't required to implement HDMI-CEC.

Am I stuck with whatever is in Sony's walled garden? Yup. But without it, there's no one to get the PC hardware and software vendors to focus on the aspects of the gaming experience that are important to me. I don't expect them to focus on me - it would do very little to serve their core market - but a product built for my exact use case is going to do a much better job of meeting my needs than a supposed jack-of-all-trades.

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#19 Vandalvideo
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Hardly the user experience I'm looking for, or the one being discussed. We're talking about my living room, not an internet cafe - note that the post I replied to specifically proposed an HTPC. Besides, what good would it do me to buy a custom solution? There's no one to force developers to support it. On a console, if you don't use the console's identity manager, if you don't support the console's gamepad, if you don't submit your app for testing, you don't get to release. Without somebody to crack the whip, developers and publishers aren't required to standardize on something like Steam or support gamepads, motherboard manufacturers aren't required to implement starting up from a gamepad, OS vendors aren't required to produce a shell designed for a gamepad, and video card manufacturers aren't required to implement HDMI-CEC. Am I stuck with whatever is in Sony's walled garden? Yup. But without it, there's no one to get the PC hardware and software vendors to focus on the aspects of the gaming experience that are important to me. I don't expect them to focus on me - it would do very little to serve their core market - but a product built for my exact use case is going to do a much better job of meeting my needs than a supposed jack-of-all-trades.lowe0
The program itself compiled information and was able to find the contact information of your friends from different messaging devices. Other players did not have to be using the program for it to actually work. That is how the software was set up. Not only that, but there is nothing limiting this being used in a home setting. How the software works would work wherever you put it; internet cafe or home office. It didn't matter if developers supported it either. Things like x-fire and this work around whether developers decide to support it, and allow for custom integration automatically. Also, how the gamepad software works is that it emulates PC inputs on a gamepad, meaning any and every game would support a gamepad, no matter whether the developers implement it or not. Whether developers support this platform is entirely irrelevant to how it operates. It works exactly like consoles do and does not require developer implementation. The fact of the matter is such solutions DO exist, whether you decide to buy it or not.
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#20 locopatho
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No Nintendo or Sega and possibly no Japanese devs at all! It would suck, way less good games and developers.
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#21 Warhawk_
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Maybe people wouldjust playPC games. From what I know about the whole 1983 Game crash as an example, when people stopped playing on game consoles, they started to play on computers such as the Commadore 64. Then the NES brought back console gaming.

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I probably would be bored to death, only one of my favourite series is also on pc

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#24 DJ-Lafleur
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The PC gamers would have nobody to feel superior to. :(

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#25 dramaybaz
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Can you imagine a World without Consoles?

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#26 majadamus
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Oh please forgive me, supreme elite PC gamer. Rectify my ways at set me straight. I'm a dirty console player. Forgive me! Forgive me! I only wish to be more like you, the superior gaming 1337. :cry:
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#27 tomarlyn
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There would be much less fun in the world

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#29 HaloinventedFPS
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PC's would have all the games, even nintendo

Ati and Nvidia would have alot more money

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#30 dontshackzmii
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far less gamers and far less games due to the smaller market.