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#51 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="Activision_QAT"]are you serious? 23+23 = 46... 1mill from 47 psps sold 23mill... thats allready half... exactly... you should stay in school

It's a third. It would be half if the PSP had sold the same amount as the DS... 50/50.
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#52 shadow_702
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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Activision_QAT"]

[QUOTE="han_186"]omg, look at it this way: ds: 47 million sold, psp : 23 million sold, ds better games, more games, better online , end of storyActivision_QAT

ahahahaahhaahahahahh!!!!!!!!1!! what a sheep that one is

better online? socom has like 16players online with a mic for in game chating...

better games? do u even have a 3d game? or are they still 2D?

look at it this way.... PSP sold half of what DS did...those 23million sales could have went to the DS.. so kidtendo has lost half of the market to Sony? and theyve been owning the handheld market since 1990? :lol:

Stay in school. Thats 1/3 of the market.

are you serious? 23+23 = 46... 1mill from 47

psps sold 23mill... thats allready half...

exactly... you should stay in school

OMG ? half!? the Psp is sure owning the DS now :O

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#53 nintendofreak_2
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So the PSP still has nearly double the AA's, and only 2 less AAA's? See, the PSP isn't a complete failure like people here on system wars like to think.

agentfred

Well here's how it works out with exclusives. You need to understand that the PSP was hyped as the DS killer and was supposed to kick Nintendo out of the handheld market. It failed to do that and that is why it is considered a flop or failure.

Total AAAe:
DS:5
PSP: 2

Total AAe:
DS: 23
PSP: 19

That's a little bit old (about 2 weeks) but it hasn't changed that much in that time.

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#54 Activision_QAT
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I like how cows completely invaded this thread DS although some manners of it may not be better its pretty obvious that the DS has won the handheld war this gen anyone else who says otherwhise is just being ignorant no offense.shadow_702

kidtendo has owned the haldheld market for the last 18 years...then sony sells half of what the DS sells for 2 times the price? i would say when PSP2 comes it would be over for kidtendo

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#55 agentfred
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

You would be surprised at how much the DS lineup is affected too. It really isn't just the PSP, all handhelds are doomed to have console ports, even if they have an innovative control scheme.

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It's not affected nearly as badly as the PSP's. PSP loses 2 AAA's and around half of its AAs when you take out multi-plats. DS's loses no AAA's and around 10 AA's. I'm not sure about A's though.

True. The PSP literally is a portable PS2. Hardly any new IPs, just ports from PS2 games.

DS is a much more fun handheld.

There you go. Now if only you would replace PSP, with POSP, you'd be a perfect BulletMath replacement.

Anyway, If you take out the exclusive like he said, and do the math the PSP has roughly twice as many AA games. There are some new games for you, not ports. Their are plenty of new IP's too, like crush.

Finally, "fun", is completely opinionated, I say the PSP is more fun.:P

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#57 SolidSnake35
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it doesnt matter, ds already won this generation of portable marketing, and the games. Next time sony, i would think they will make port of a ps3han_186
If they did, it would be a good handheld, just like the PSP. Don't you agree? I'd love to play Heavenly Sword on the go...
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#58 han_186
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wow, i feel srry for these sad psp fans. They are soo happy that psp is taking 1/3 of the portable market, how sad...

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#59 iLiveBy2words
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Uhhh...I like my modded DS better than my modded PSP if that helps. Lol.
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#60 han_186
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[QUOTE="han_186"]it doesnt matter, ds already won this generation of portable marketing, and the games. Next time sony, i would think they will make port of a ps3SolidSnake35
If they did, it would be a good handheld, just like the PSP. Don't you agree? I'd love to play Heavenly Sword on the go...

, i would cost like a 1000 bucks... who would seriously buy that?

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#61 Hman321
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it doesnt matter, ds already won this generation of portable marketing, and the games. Next time sony, i would think they will make port of a ps3han_186

your just mad because the gamecube lost the console war last gen

why don't you count to 10 and see if that helps

peace out am going to go play bioshock

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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Activision_QAT"]

[QUOTE="han_186"]omg, look at it this way: ds: 47 million sold, psp : 23 million sold, ds better games, more games, better online , end of storyActivision_QAT

ahahahaahhaahahahahh!!!!!!!!1!! what a sheep that one is

better online? socom has like 16players online with a mic for in game chating...

better games? do u even have a 3d game? or are they still 2D?

look at it this way.... PSP sold half of what DS did...those 23million sales could have went to the DS.. so kidtendo has lost half of the market to Sony? and theyve been owning the handheld market since 1990? :lol:

Stay in school. Thats 1/3 of the market.

are you serious? 23+23 = 46... 1mill from 47

psps sold 23mill... thats allready half...

exactly... you should stay in school

23 + 47= 70

23/70 = About 1/3

Thats 1/3 of the Market, not of the DS's sales.

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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Activision_QAT"]

[QUOTE="han_186"]omg, look at it this way: ds: 47 million sold, psp : 23 million sold, ds better games, more games, better online , end of storyActivision_QAT

ahahahaahhaahahahahh!!!!!!!!1!! what a sheep that one is

better online? socom has like 16players online with a mic for in game chating...

better games? do u even have a 3d game? or are they still 2D?

look at it this way.... PSP sold half of what DS did...those 23million sales could have went to the DS.. so kidtendo has lost half of the market to Sony? and theyve been owning the handheld market since 1990? :lol:

Stay in school. Thats 1/3 of the market.

are you serious? 23+23 = 46... 1mill from 47

psps sold 23mill... thats allready half...

exactly... you should stay in school

but 23 is 1/3 of the total market, which is 47 mil (ninty) + 23 mil (sony) 70mil total.

23/70 ~1/3

like agentfred said, stay in school

EDIT: beat me to it. damn you, Agentfred!!1

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#65 SolidSnake35
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wow, i feel srry for these sad psp fans. They are soo happy that psp is taking 1/3 of the portable market, how sad...

han_186
I feel sorry for those with personal vendettas against the PSP. It's sad that they can't appreciate both handhelds...
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#66 Hman321
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wow, i feel srry for these sad psp fans. They are soo happy that psp is taking 1/3 of the portable market, how sad...

han_186

i dont care about sales or the market

all i care about is the i love my psp and the games a playing on it

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#67 Activision_QAT
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wow, i feel srry for these sad psp fans. They are soo happy that psp is taking 1/3 of the portable market, how sad...

han_186

wow, i feel srry for theese DS fans. There still in thier 2D anime world games and using cartridges...when is kidtendo ever going to catch up with the current times? how sad...

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#68 shadow_702
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[QUOTE="shadow_702"]I like how cows completely invaded this thread DS although some manners of it may not be better its pretty obvious that the DS has won the handheld war this gen anyone else who says otherwhise is just being ignorant no offense.Activision_QAT

kidtendo has owned the haldheld market for the last 18 years...then sony sells half of what the DS sells for 2 times the price? i would say when PSP2 comes it would be over for kidtendo

Obviously a sad attempt. The PSP was slated to talk out the DS in its king of handheld market this gen guess what ? they didn't in fact they didn't even come close so by SW the PSP is considered a hard flop Sony is losing more and more money on the PS3 and PSP well Nintendo manages to bring in quite a profit of its own. (Learn spelling grammar please and come back with an intelligent post). :)

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#69 han_186
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[QUOTE="han_186"]

wow, i feel srry for these sad psp fans. They are soo happy that psp is taking 1/3 of the portable market, how sad...

Activision_QAT

wow, i feel srry for theese DS fans. There still in thier 2D anime world games and using cartridges...when is kidtendo ever going to catch up with the current times? how sad...

tell that to metroid prime hunters, and cartidge is kicking umd's small butt

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#70 nintendofreak_2
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'kay, I tried counting, but I realllllly don't feel like checking whether each game from the DS' and PSP's line-up of hundreds of games are exclusive or not. For AAA's, PSP lost 2 (Tekken: DR and Burnout Legends) and the DS lost one (Mario Kart). For AA's I got a rough estimate of about 22 or so, for the DS I'll go with your count of ten. I'm pretty sure neither of us wants to go count the A's, so we'll just do with these two:

(updated for rough estimates of exclusives)

PSP: 3 AAA's, 36 AA's

DS: 4 AAA's (6 counting the two other versions of Nintendogs), 17 AA's

As for any other replies I missed, AgentFred pretty much said what I would've.

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Mario Kart DS is an exclusive. It's not a port or remake. It's a sequel.
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[QUOTE="Activision_QAT"][QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Activision_QAT"]

[QUOTE="han_186"]omg, look at it this way: ds: 47 million sold, psp : 23 million sold, ds better games, more games, better online , end of storybeast667

ahahahaahhaahahahahh!!!!!!!!1!! what a sheep that one is

better online? socom has like 16players online with a mic for in game chating...

better games? do u even have a 3d game? or are they still 2D?

look at it this way.... PSP sold half of what DS did...those 23million sales could have went to the DS.. so kidtendo has lost half of the market to Sony? and theyve been owning the handheld market since 1990? :lol:

Stay in school. Thats 1/3 of the market.

are you serious? 23+23 = 46... 1mill from 47

psps sold 23mill... thats allready half...

exactly... you should stay in school

but 23 is 1/3 of the total market, which is 47 mil (ninty) + 23 mil (sony) 70mil total.

23/70 ~1/3

like agentfred said, stay in school

EDIT: beat me to it. damn you, Agentfred!!1

so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...

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#72 agentfred
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]

So the PSP still has nearly double the AA's, and only 2 less AAA's? See, the PSP isn't a complete failure like people here on system wars like to think.

nintendofreak_2

Well here's how it works out with exclusives. You need to understand that the PSP was hyped as the DS killer and was supposed to kick Nintendo out of the handheld market. It failed to do that and that is why it is considered a flop or failure.

Total AAAe:
DS:5
PSP: 2

Total AAe:
DS: 23
PSP: 19

That's a little bit old (about 2 weeks) but it hasn't changed that much in that time.

I don't have time to fact check every one of those, but I know there is an error in the AAA's. How are only 2 exclusive? Daxter, MGS: PO, and BL are all exclusive. That doesn't bode well for the rest of the list...

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#73 nintendofreak_2
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so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...

Activision_QAT
If you knew anything about market share you'd understand that's how you find how much each would have.
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#74 han_186
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[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Activision_QAT"][QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Activision_QAT"]

[QUOTE="han_186"]omg, look at it this way: ds: 47 million sold, psp : 23 million sold, ds better games, more games, better online , end of storyActivision_QAT

ahahahaahhaahahahahh!!!!!!!!1!! what a sheep that one is

better online? socom has like 16players online with a mic for in game chating...

better games? do u even have a 3d game? or are they still 2D?

look at it this way.... PSP sold half of what DS did...those 23million sales could have went to the DS.. so kidtendo has lost half of the market to Sony? and theyve been owning the handheld market since 1990? :lol:

Stay in school. Thats 1/3 of the market.

are you serious? 23+23 = 46... 1mill from 47

psps sold 23mill... thats allready half...

exactly... you should stay in school

but 23 is 1/3 of the total market, which is 47 mil (ninty) + 23 mil (sony) 70mil total.

23/70 ~1/3

like agentfred said, stay in school

EDIT: beat me to it. damn you, Agentfred!!1

so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...

kidtendo.... another sad attempt

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#75 shadow_702
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so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...

Activision_QAT

Not really its just common sense of market play.

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#76 agentfred
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so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...

Activision_QAT

Thats how you judge the size of the market.

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topicpeter360

I've been getting a lot more play time with my PSP, so I would have to say PSP.

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#78 SolidSnake35
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so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...Activision_QAT
Both sets of sales make up the total market, and then the PSP's sales are taken from that as a fraction or a percentage. Imagine if the PSP had sold the same amount as the DS. It wouldn't have 100% of the market, would it? Just like selling half as many isn't 50% of the market.
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It depends on your whatever game genres you prefer reall.:?
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#80 nintendofreak_2
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I don't have time to fact check every one of those, but I know there is an error in the AAA's. How are only 2 exclusive? Daxter, MGS: PO, and BL are all exclusive. That doesn't bode well for the rest of the list...

agentfred
I just took that from another thread when I did a board search.
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#81 beast667
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so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...

Activision_QAT

sony has sold half as many psp's as nintendo has ds's. if you combine them, that means sony has 1/3 of the portable market.

go back to 4th grade and learn fractions

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#82 shadow_702
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[QUOTE="Activision_QAT"]so ur adding kidtendos sales and sony sales together? thats stupid...SolidSnake35
Both sets of sales make up the total market, and then the PSP's sales are taken from that as a fraction or a percentage. Imagine if the PSP had sold the same amount as the DS. It wouldn't have 100% of the market, would it? Just like selling half as many isn't 50% of the market.

Nicely done :) *claps*

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#83 Activision_QAT
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kidtendo.... another sad attempt

add me my friend code is 3342 21321 123213123 -09342-4 231839483-

lets play pokemon

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#84 shadow_702
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add me my friend code is 3342 21321 123213123 -09342-4 231839483-

lets play pokemon

Activision_QAT

Sad sad sad piece of flamebait right there.

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Ds rules yoo. i had PSP it was so bad i sold it for a ds. goooood times now.
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#87 nintendofreak_2
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]Mario Kart DS is an exclusive. It's not a port or remake. It's a sequel.Slashkice

Fixed.

:? Did you do anything? (I edited my post before this was posted)
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#89 nintendofreak_2
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To your post? Nope. I just fixed the count in mine.

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:P I was quite confused. I kept on looking trying to find a difference for like 10 minutes. Thanks a lot :P.
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#90 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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ds has better games which is why i have it, but i guess the psp is good if you want videos, music and photos on the go
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#91 GamerForca
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DS has more AAAEs, PSP has more AAEs (but just barely). Looking at future lineups, PSP is going to get wasted.
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

[QUOTE="han_186"]omg, look at it this way: ds: 47 million sold, psp : 23 million sold, ds better games, more games, better online , end of storyhan_186

Oh lulz. Friendcodes is the worst form of online play in use right now, so no, it's not better then the PSP in that respect. Sales are irrelevant; it's already been decided that here on System Wars, games decide who wins, not sales. DS wins in quantity of games. Quality is subjective; but just for giggles, let's look at GS scores:

PSP: 5 AAA's, 58 AA's, 81 A's

DS: 5 AAA's (7 counting the other two versions of Nintendogs), 27 AA's, 78 A's

Well, would ya look at that, seems the PSP has the better games according to GS.

u do know gamespot is biased and lately has been very painful, besides look at the ps2 top games, so many triple A and even a 10, no wonder, if u want average , go look at gamerankings bud, oh look ds has better games, u fail.

And also sales matters, if a system and it's games sells a lot (ds wins in both areas right now , go look at the NPD) that means it's a sucess, if ppl doesnt buy it, it's a fail,

If Gamespot is biased, it's definately not to the PSP.

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[QUOTE="han_186"][QUOTE="Slashkice"]

[QUOTE="han_186"]omg, look at it this way: ds: 47 million sold, psp : 23 million sold, ds better games, more games, better online , end of storytonemd_basic

Oh lulz. Friendcodes is the worst form of online play in use right now, so no, it's not better then the PSP in that respect. Sales are irrelevant; it's already been decided that here on System Wars, games decide who wins, not sales. DS wins in quantity of games. Quality is subjective; but just for giggles, let's look at GS scores:

PSP: 5 AAA's, 58 AA's, 81 A's

DS: 5 AAA's (7 counting the other two versions of Nintendogs), 27 AA's, 78 A's

Well, would ya look at that, seems the PSP has the better games according to GS.

u do know gamespot is biased and lately has been very painful, besides look at the ps2 top games, so many triple A and even a 10, no wonder, if u want average , go look at gamerankings bud, oh look ds has better games, u fail.

And also sales matters, if a system and it's games sells a lot (ds wins in both areas right now , go look at the NPD) that means it's a sucess, if ppl doesnt buy it, it's a fail,

If Gamespot is biased, it's definately not to the PSP.

yet, when you take away the ps2 ports, and look only at exclusives, the DS beats the psp
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#95 Wanderer5
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I still like the DS more, but the PSP is still a great system. Either way I glad that I am a owner of both system.