Whats Keeping MS From Revealing Xbox1's Release Date?

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#1 dujubear
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With November only a couple of months away, why still delay the announcement? Will it really affect anything at this point if they release before or after PS4?

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CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.
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to keep people on their toes
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#5 dujubear
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CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.Sonysexual1
Who is CBOAT? Any link on this?
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.dujubear
Who is CBOAT? Any link on this?

Supposedly a Microsoft insider who has a very good track record with his leaks. His thread was pruned.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67015529

#Truthfact No.1
No live stream for the Xbox One Gamescom press conference for real reasons. Xbox One architecture is still not fully completed and latest versions of the SDK from couple of weeks ago dropped the perfomance by 15 to 20% across the board. Now before Xbox fans get mad at me: this happens all the time during development and will be eventually fixed, BUT there is no chance for a early October release.

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[QUOTE="dujubear"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.Sonysexual1

Who is CBOAT? Any link on this?

Supposedly a Microsoft insider who has a very good track record with his leaks. His thread was pruned.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67015529

#Truthfact No.1
No live stream for the Xbox One Gamescom press conference for real reasons. Xbox One architecture is still not fully completed and latest versions of the SDK from couple of weeks ago dropped the perfomance by 15 to 20% across the board. Now before Xbox fans get mad at me: this happens all the time during development and will be eventually fixed, BUT there is no chance for a early October release.

yes  trust the guy that is  33%  accruate of the time. Wrong with his recent facts .

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="dujubear"] Who is CBOAT? Any link on this?wiiutroll

Supposedly a Microsoft insider who has a very good track record with his leaks. His thread was pruned.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67015529

#Truthfact No.1
No live stream for the Xbox One Gamescom press conference for real reasons. Xbox One architecture is still not fully completed and latest versions of the SDK from couple of weeks ago dropped the perfomance by 15 to 20% across the board. Now before Xbox fans get mad at me: this happens all the time during development and will be eventually fixed, BUT there is no chance for a early October release.

yes  trust the guy that is  33%  accruate of the time. Wrong with his recent facts .

33%... lol... He was wrong about Prince of Persia shown at E3 and the PS4 releasing in October. That's it.

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#9 deactivated-57de36cfc19df
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Probably has something to do with Microsoft selling the Xbox brand.

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[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Supposedly a Microsoft insider who has a very good track record with his leaks. His thread was pruned.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67015529

#Truthfact No.1
No live stream for the Xbox One Gamescom press conference for real reasons. Xbox One architecture is still not fully completed and latest versions of the SDK from couple of weeks ago dropped the perfomance by 15 to 20% across the board. Now before Xbox fans get mad at me: this happens all the time during development and will be eventually fixed, BUT there is no chance for a early October release.

Sonysexual1

yes  trust the guy that is  33%  accruate of the time. Wrong with his recent facts .

33%... lol... He was wrong about Prince of Persia shown at E3 and the PS4 releasing in October. That's it.

umm, nope, double check

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#12 deactivated-5afcc99c5544f
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Xbox One... 11/ 1 

 

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[QUOTE="dujubear"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.Sonysexual1

Who is CBOAT? Any link on this?

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67015529

 

:lol:

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Probably has something to do with Microsoft selling the Xbox brand.

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#16 legalize82
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Probably has something to do with Microsoft selling the Xbox brand.

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CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.Sonysexual1
I've also heard their having hardware issues. That's why they aren't releasing in all countries this year and haven't announced release date. I'm on the verge of going with PS4 to start. I don't trust Microsoft's hardware.
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[QUOTE="dujubear"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.Sonysexual1

Who is CBOAT? Any link on this?

Supposedly a Microsoft insider who has a very good track record with his leaks. His thread was pruned.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67015529

#Truthfact No.1
No live stream for the Xbox One Gamescom press conference for real reasons. Xbox One architecture is still not fully completed and latest versions of the SDK from couple of weeks ago dropped the perfomance by 15 to 20% across the board. Now before Xbox fans get mad at me: this happens all the time during development and will be eventually fixed, BUT there is no chance for a early October release.

Wow , I hope you're just propagandering and don't really believe this nonsense.

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#19 ZamboniGamer
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="dujubear"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]CBOAT and others have claimed that there was a 20% performance drop with the latest SDK. Microsoft won't have a definite release date until they fix the performance issues.GravityX

Who is CBOAT? Any link on this?

Supposedly a Microsoft insider who has a very good track record with his leaks. His thread was pruned.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67015529

#Truthfact No.1
No live stream for the Xbox One Gamescom press conference for real reasons. Xbox One architecture is still not fully completed and latest versions of the SDK from couple of weeks ago dropped the perfomance by 15 to 20% across the board. Now before Xbox fans get mad at me: this happens all the time during development and will be eventually fixed, BUT there is no chance for a early October release.

Wow , I hope you're just propagandering and don't really believe this nonsense.

[/ Maybe the source is correct, maybe its not. Microsoft is looking shady by delaying certain countries and not announcing the release date yet.
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Judging by the X1's World Wide delays (phased launches), I would guess MS management is trying to figure out a date that is:

1) earlier than SONY's Nov 15th in North America

2) Not too much later than SONY's Nov 29th in Europe (hence FIFA bundling)

that will allow MS to produce enough consoles without pissing off more customers due to global shortages, further due to late production.

The X1 launch has been nothing short of a disaster for MS - they were not ready and I'm sure being utlra cautious b/c of the 360's RROD issues.

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#21 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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sources say they may not even want to release it at all! they are shook
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#22 FPSfan1985
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Not yet sure when they wanna release it is my guess.
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#23 ZamboniGamer
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Judging by the X1's World Wide delays (phased launches), I would guess MS management is trying to figure out a date that is:

1) earlier than SONY's Nov 15th in North America

2) Not too much later than SONY's Nov 29th in Europe (hence FIFA bundling)

that will allow MS to produce enough consoles without pissing off more customers due to global shortages, further due to late production.

The X1 launch has been nothing short of a disaster for MS - they were not ready and I'm sure being utlra cautious b/c of the 360's RROD issues.

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It amazes me how unprepared they've looked the entire time.
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#24 Scipio8
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It amazes me cows don't realise the Xbox 360 release date wasn't announced until early\mid september.

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#25 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Because they probably don't have a release date set yet? 

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#26 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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They probably aren't totally sure what their supply will be, so they are going to wait until the are absolutely sure they can cover the demand for the initial launch. I'm still guessing they will release the same week that CoD Ghosts comes out which will help bump their attach rate for games, headsets and whatnot. Plus, they are really going to want to beat the PS4 out the door. Fence sitters will be swayed by peer pressure, seeing the new games on the demo kiosks and the thought of not getting one will drive people to get one "just because"
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#27 mitu123
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I blame Sony since Microsoft are unsure when the time will be right to release it around the same time as the PS4.

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#28 urbansys
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Does anyone know what is keeping Sony from using a PS4 for its show demos?

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#29 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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Does anyone know what is keeping Sony from using a PS4 for its show demos?

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The system is not in its final state yet and probably wont be for a few weeks yet.
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#30 mprince131
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This has precedence and it may not be the best news. It's known that 360 started mass production only 69 days before launch which puts that around September 13, 2005. The release dates were announced during TGS '05  on September 14, 2005. Perhaps Microsoft has not started full production but if that is the case we may be looking at a late launch as 360 was launcehed on Novemember 22, 2005. We know how well the late production worked out (RROD) Hopefully MS has begun production and I believe they have. Albert Penello of MS claims there are no production issues on Neogaf and swears that if there were he would just keep quiet instead of refuting them. He promises that when sales numbers come out it will shut up the rumors that manufacturing issues were to blame in region delays. 

TL;DR: MSFT will announce it "when they are ready" and it doesn't mean anything is wrong. I'm guessing TGS despite MSFT's horrible presence in Japan.

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#31 -Damien-
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I think they're having production or manufacturing issues, not looking good for Xbone

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[QUOTE="huggy_bear01"]

Probably has something to do with Microsoft selling the Xbox brand.

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Yied Issues.
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They're having manufacturing shortages... yet they're offering FREE consoles to all their own Employees AND Gamestop Store Managers. AND they don't have enough units for 8 territories, so that they have to bundle a FIFA game in with them to make them feel better about not getting a unit until 2014.

And here we are - STILL with no release date.

GREAT JOB MICROSOFT!

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#35 FoxbatAlpha
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I was at least expecting it this weekend at Pax Prime. Well that show is about over if not already and no release date yet. I'm a little pissed to say. We got Ryse footage out of the show but no other Epic games announcement (that ive heard) and Major Nelson also said about some big announcements. Give me something damn it.
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same day as ps4 would be awesome.

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#37 mitu123
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same day as ps4 would be awesome.

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#38 FLOPPAGE_50
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Man you guys are so dumb.


Anyways, they are keeping it quiet now because they are trying to see if they have enough resources for an extremely early release date (to undercut sony for a head start).. I'm probably assmuming Mid October-Nov 1.

That is why Microsoft is so hush hush about it.

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#39 ManatuBeard
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They probably have no idea....

Before the PS4 in US seems very unlikely (and CBOAT said that reps are being called for Nov 15, so late Nov is most likely)

TGS seems like a very bad place to announce it, since nobody cares for MS there, they will most likely do another small event or just tell it to the media... or tweet it...

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#41 l34052
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We received our first 'bone in the office last week so it cant be that far from release, personally i think they're runnin scared of sony LOLOL.

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I think it could be due to all the 180s they have pulled so they have had to change alot of things within the box.
I also think they did have a mid november  release date for the US, and maybe a begining of Dec for the rest, i think Sony shocked them with the early November release date and have now had to rethink, i mean surely you can't launch a console in october and not give any of us anything this late on.

i think microsoft have just crumbled with all the 180s and uncertainty around the xbox one, they've never really been to sure on what the xbox one is, or what seemed very confident. 

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#43 Malta_1980
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Hopefully they are testing properly the hardware so they dont release on the market a console with such a high failure rate like the 360 !!!

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#44 XBOunity
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TGS looks like when we will get the date I guess. The talk of the show will be that regardless if that's the case
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Delays due to all the 180s and probably more 180s to come.

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#46 RR360DD
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I think it could be due to all the 180s they have pulled so they have had to change alot of things within the box.
I also think they did have a mid november  release date for the US, and maybe a begining of Dec for the rest, i think Sony shocked them with the early November release date and have now had to rethink, i mean surely you can't launch a console in october and not give any of us anything this late on.

i think microsoft have just crumbled with all the 180s and uncertainty around the xbox one, they've never really been to sure on what the xbox one is, or what seemed very confident. 

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Uh yeah the PS4 isn't launching early November. 15th is not early November.
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Hopefully because they're still trying to improve it. I doubt it though. One thing's for sure though, ya won't see the kind of improvements this article is talking about:

http://wccftech.com/rumormicrosoft-xbox-possibly-feature-discrete-gpu-core-stacked-main-soc/

An additional 2304 to 2560 stream processors? LMMAO. Somebody else drinking the misterxmedia kool-aid. :D

Hey, I'd be more than happy with an additional 400-600 gflops. At least that would put it at parity with PS4. But chances against it getting even that are like 99.99% and what was in that link has 0% chance.

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#48 jarusa
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They are probably having software issues with having to remove 1) the DRM programs 2) 24 hour connect programs 3)Kinnect Mandatory programs. They may sound like simple things, but being a software developer I know that some times the thing that sounds easiest to change can post the most challenge.

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Maybe MS has decided to pull a Saturn with this thing and we will see it on store shelves this weekend.
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#50 XBOunity
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Hopefully because they're still trying to improve it. I doubt it though. One thing's for sure though, ya won't see the kind of improvements this article is talking about:

http://wccftech.com/rumormicrosoft-xbox-possibly-feature-discrete-gpu-core-stacked-main-soc/

An additional 2304 to 2560 stream processors? LMMAO. Somebody else drinking the misterxmedia kool-aid. :D

Hey, I'd be more than happy with an additional 400-600 gflops. At least that would put it at parity with PS4. But chances against it getting even that are like 99.99% and what was in that link has 0% chance.

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this isnt happening.    XBO is a capable next gen machine with the software that will further its progression.     Dont believe this misterx, he is just looking for hits on his webpage.