Whats Next for Microsoft?

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#1 LoganZRun
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Moores gone, what can this mean for microsoft, was this because of the billion dollar mess up, or is this just a money thing ??, i think Moore knew what was going down with the 360 failure rate and did not want to be the fall guy so hes been linging this up for a while, Whos gonna be the new face of microsoft gaming division now ? Master chief?

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/805/805713p1.html

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#2 manningbowl135
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Shane kim maybe? The VP of MS gaming. It'd be good to have a Japanese guy at the top too, maybe open some doors for MS gaming in Japan.
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#3 asdasd
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Its not because of the Xbox business that he left. He left for his family. They wanted to live where they grew up, California. That happens to be where he would be working as head of EA sports. The deal was signed 5 weeks ago, before the warrenty announcement was made
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#4 Carmilla31
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Hes taking the hit just like crazy Ken is. Its not about money. If Microsoft wanted to keep him dont you think they wouldve matched EAs offer?
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#5 Danm_999
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Moores gone, what can this mean for microsoft, was this because of the billion dollar mess up, or is this just a money ??, i think Moore knew what was going down with the 360 failure rate and did not want to be te fall guy so hes been linging this up for a while, Whos gonna be the new face of microsoft gaming division now ? Master chief?

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/805/805713p1.html

LoganZRun

Moore was an executive, not a designer, I doubt he resigned due to for technical problems with the console.

It's more likely that he left because of the way he handled the problem, but I doubt that too.

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#6 SegArgyle
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your wrong, he wanted to move his family on the west coast
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#7 LoganZRun
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Shane kim maybe? The VP of MS gaming. It'd be good to have a Japanese guy at the top too, maybe open some doors for MS gaming in Japan.manningbowl135

thats what i was thinking maybe he could help them understand the japanese market better

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#8 SegArgyle
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]Shane kim maybe? The VP of MS gaming. It'd be good to have a Japanese guy at the top too, maybe open some doors for MS gaming in Japan.LoganZRun

thats what i was thinking maybe he could help them understand the japanese market better

they have already hired ea's former president so you guys are too little too late

plus it's already confirmed he changed for his family plus ea offered him ALOT of cash, so like everyone else, sometimes change is good

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#9 LoganZRun
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your wrong, he wanted to move his family on the west coastSegArgyle

Of course hes gonna make some public statement like that what coporate guy comes out and says IM leaving because I efd up, if you believe that i guess pigs are flying and hells frozen over

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#10 SegArgyle
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[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]your wrong, he wanted to move his family on the west coastLoganZRun

Of course hes gonna make some public statement like that what coporate guy comes out and says IM leaving because I efd up, if you believe that i guess pigs are flying and hells frozen over

whatever dude, if what u believe is true MS would have already stated it

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#11 SegArgyle
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and if u get g4 watch attack of the show/the loop
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#12 LoganZRun
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[QUOTE="LoganZRun"]

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]your wrong, he wanted to move his family on the west coastSegArgyle

Of course hes gonna make some public statement like that what coporate guy comes out and says IM leaving because I efd up, if you believe that i guess pigs are flying and hells frozen over

whatever dude, if what u believe is true MS would have already stated it

Like they came out and said the 360 has a high failure rate a full year after everybody already knew it, whatever you say DUDE, and by the way im not a 360 fan boy like you,i even own an Xbox 360,im just stating an opinion open for discussion if you wanna live your life with a micrsoft blanket over your eyes thats fine ......

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and if u get g4 watch attack of the show/the loopSegArgyle

Like im gonna waste my time watching that trash for tv G4 is always late with news and they dont seem to care about gaming any more .....

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#14 SegArgyle
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[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]and if u get g4 watch attack of the show/the loopLoganZRun

Like im gonna waste my time watching that trash for tv G4 is always late with news and they dont seem to care about gaming any more .....

u started a thread for discussion then u bash someone that comes in to discuss, just because they don't agree with your opinion, good luck in life noob, and g4 wasn't exactly late on the news since they were reporting on something that happened TODAY duhhrrrrr, get with it noobilicious

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#15 LoganZRun
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[QUOTE="LoganZRun"]

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]and if u get g4 watch attack of the show/the loopSegArgyle

Like im gonna waste my time watching that trash for tv G4 is always late with news and they dont seem to care about gaming any more .....

u started a thread for discussion then u bash someone that comes in to discuss, just because they don't agree with your opinion, good luck in life noob, and g4 wasn't exactly late on the news since they were reporting on something that happened TODAY duhhrrrrr, get with it noobilicious

you must be twelve lololol
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#16 SegArgyle
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[QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="LoganZRun"]

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]and if u get g4 watch attack of the show/the loopLoganZRun

Like im gonna waste my time watching that trash for tv G4 is always late with news and they dont seem to care about gaming any more .....

u started a thread for discussion then u bash someone that comes in to discuss, just because they don't agree with your opinion, good luck in life noob, and g4 wasn't exactly late on the news since they were reporting on something that happened TODAY duhhrrrrr, get with it noobilicious

you must be twelve lololol

lol u wish, and what kind of comeback is that, you blast me for making discussion here, since that is the reason u started this thread, and someone comes and tells u what is being reported, and u get all fussy about it because it isnt what u like to hear, u must be a 13 year old girl then

and I gurantee u I'm older u than u kid

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Isn't EA paying more than MS. I'd leave too.
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This sort of thing doesn't happen just because he wants to move to San Francisco. That is stupid. The billion-dollar-hit on the warranty issue and Moore's leaving can not be looked at as two independent events. MS needs new leadership in the gaming division in order to get beyond this mess.

I'm a huge 360 GAMES fan. I didn't mind it when I had to send in my 360 for refurbishment (8 total days - wow, now that was tough :roll: ), but for MS to continually deny that there was a problem in the hardware and then turn around with this is just embarassing.

That being said - what is next for MS? Personally, I think they need to pull-back a bit from their statement that they will be profitable in 2008. Ever since that statement, it seems like there has been a shift in the decision making coming from MS. EVERYTHING has been money-making oriented and not done with the sole purpose of promoting gaming or rewarding their users. Prior to the launch of the 360 and shortly thereafter, there was a ton of free content on Live, tons of promotions/giveaways/etc. Since that "profitable in 2008" statement, we've seen unheard of milkage in the Marketplace (Guitar Hero, Gears Map Pack, etc.), charging $120 for a Hard Drive, the Elite, more high-priced add-ons, ZERO user based content on Live, trying to justify the $50 a year for Live, etc.

I think this focus on making a profit in the gaming division MAY spell the fall of MS in the gaming business. If they continue to overcharge for content on the Marketplace with ZERO laxing of these things (I think the COD2 map pack is STILL 800 points after a year of being released).

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#20 Carmilla31
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Isn't EA paying more than MS. I'd leave too.waynehead895
If MS wanted to keep him dont you think they could afford it? :|
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#21 Heil68
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This is Funny- Ken can leave Sony and they're ok, Moore leaves MS and they're failing?.:roll:In my opinion they will continue to be on the market for a long, long time, because they don't want to give up the 'entertainment' device in the living room to Sony or Nintendo.
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#23 -Reggaeton-
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The downfall of EA is starting. Isnt that what everyone wanted? LOL i think MS wanted some one to blame and its Moore.

It will be interesting to see how the annual shareholder meeting goes. +6,5billion in losses

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#24 quocthai
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The downfall of EA is starting. Isnt that what everyone wanted? LOL i think MS wanted some one to blame and its Moore.

It will be interesting to see how the annual shareholder meeting goes. +6,5billion in losses

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lost for MS? I don't think so. because xbox division represent a small part in the company. And have any one seen the rediculous slary and benefit that moore gonna get at EA@ kotaku, that's the reason why he left

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#25 user_nat
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An EA employee with GTA 4 on his arm.. interesting.. lol
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#26 myke2010
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It's simple. After all the 360 hardware failures and the attempted cover up, the top guys at MS decided some heads were gonna roll. Moore was the person ultimately in charge of overseeing the 360 roll out so, whether he was directly involved in the design of the 360 or not, he's the one ultimately responsible for the fiasco. Of course MS wasn't going to publicly blast him, that's not how the heavy hitters play ball. They let him appear to retire, thanked him for his hard work, and showed him the door. The same thing happened with Ken at Sony after the shaky PS3 rollout. After all, the top guys at these companies know it's only one slip up and the same thing happens to them, and none of them wants to be embarrased when it's their turn.
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#27 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]Isn't EA paying more than MS. I'd leave too.Carmilla31
If MS wanted to keep him dont you think they could afford it? :|

Just because they can afford it doesn't mean they'll pay him anything he wants. MS didn't become this rich by being a pushover or throwing away money. They did it by being smart. They obviously thought the smart money lied with letting him go.

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#28 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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I would have to agree with some of you guys regarding Moore's departure and 360 failures. It's just perfect timing. Why all of a sudden he wants to leave? To move his family? Please, that's such a cop-out. Clearly, the recent Warranty announcement, the apology from Moore and MS unwilling to completely resolve the 360 failure rates has something to do with his departure.

It's quite obvious.