What's so good about Halo's storyline!?

I don't get what's so interesting about the Halo stories and universe! They're filled with derivative sci-fi cliches and the dialogue is so bad to the point it uses one liners that are more corny than any Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. The characters are so forgettable, they're just 2 dimensional stereo-types and cardboard cutouts.

This where all the fanboys cry out; "but you need to read the books to understand it!" I have read all the books, I have to say they're poorly written and filled with Deus Ex Machina. They don't expand the universe in any way, they just add a little of backstory for the spartans.

The universe maybe be deep {kinda} for video games but compared hundreds of sci-fi TV shows, movies, and books it's weak and shallow.

Even by FPS standards the story is poor! There are FPS that have better stories than Halo like BioShock, Deus Ex, Call of Duty 4, System Shock 2, and most of all the Half-Life series especially 2.

And what's so interesting and iconic about Master Chief? He's just a typical and cliche gruff cyborg soldier. We even never get to see his face!

The story is just a typical sci-fi tale of aliens invading earth and a super soldier trying to save Earth.

The stories are formulaic and the dialogue is hamfisted!

Seriously, whats so good about Halo's storyline?

The books.

I don't get what's so interesting about the Halo stories and universe! They're filled with derivative sci-fi cliches and the dialogue is so bad to the point it uses one liners that are more corny than any Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. The characters are so forgettable, they're just 2 dimensional stereo-types and cardboard cutouts.

This where all the fanboys cry out; "but you need to read the books to understand it!" I have read all the books, I have to say they're poorly written and filled with Deus Ex Machina. They don't expand the universe in any way, they just add a little of backstory for the spartans.

The universe maybe be deep {kinda} for video games but compared hundreds of sci-fi TV shows, movies, and books it's weak and shallow.

Even by FPS standards the story is poor! There are FPS that have better stories than Halo like BioShock, Deus Ex, Call of Duty 4, System Shock 2, and most of all the Half-Life series especially 2.

And what's so interesting and iconic about Master Chief? He's just a typical and cliche gruff cyborg soldier. We even never get to see his face!

The story is just a typical sci-fi tale of aliens invading earth and a super soldier trying to save Earth.

The stories are formulaic and the dialogue is hamfisted!

Seriously, whats so good about Halo's storyline?

g805ge

I dont think its all that good, its the overall package thats excellent.

seriously. honest question. why does halo bother you so much. theirs many games out their i dont like but im never compeled to make a thread about them. its weird.

Halo is a great sci-fi story. Is it original or innovative in its narrative? No, and it doesn't have to be, as 99% of todays "big" titles aren't.

Its set in the future.

Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.SparkyProtocol

WH40K has a far deeper back story and detailed lore then most people know. Anyone familiar with WH40K lore know that the Dawn of War series isn't accurate. I'm guessing you know very little about WH40K.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.mattisgod01

WH40K has a far deeper back story and detailed lore then most people know. Anyone familiar with WH40K lore know that the Dawn of War series isn't accurate. I'm guessing you know very little about WH40K.

Nothing, all I really care to know is that you're some dude in a suit killing aliens with some sassy computer program helping. The games still manage to be decent even if I don't care for the story.princeofshapeir

Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.sSubZerOo

Halo:CE's story was awesome. Halo 2's was decent. Halo 3's was silly.

The Halo 'verse is quite expansive, and alot more fleshed out than most other games' universes.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Nothing, all I really care to know is that you're some dude in a suit killing aliens with some sassy computer program helping. The games still manage to be decent even if I don't care for the story.SparkyProtocol

Halo:CE's story was awesome. Halo 2's was decent. Halo 3's was silly.

Cellpwn

Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.sSubZerOo

I don't get what's so interesting about the Halo stories and universe! They're filled with derivative sci-fi cliches and the dialogue is so bad to the point it uses one liners that are more corny than any Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. The characters are so forgettable, they're just 2 dimensional stereo-types and cardboard cutouts. Its not cliche. No, its not entirely original, but its pretty brilliant how the whole Covenant is a collection of different species brought together with hopes of religous salvation. Also, the image of Johnson dying is burned in my head forever. The characters are complete and deep. The only one-liners are with marines in combat, and they usually die anyway.

This where all the fanboys cry out; "but you need to read the books to understand it!" I have read all the books, I have to say they're poorly written and filled with Deus Ex Machina. They don't expand the universe in any way, they just add a little of backstory for the spartans. Do you really think every author of each Halo novel stole from Deus Ex Machina?

The universe maybe be deep {kinda} for video games but compared hundreds of sci-fi TV shows, movies, and books it's weak and shallow. Examples...?

Even by FPS standards the story is poor! There are FPS that have better stories than Halo like BioShock, Deus Ex, Call of Duty 4, System Shock 2, and most of all the Half-Life series especially 2. Self contradiction right there. Those games all have great stories, except Half-Life and CoD4. Half-Life isn't really all that phenomonal in its story, but rather how its told, same goes for CoD4.

And what's so interesting and iconic about Master Chief? He's just a typical and cliche gruff cyborg soldier. We even never get to see his face! He is the definition of lone warrior. He stands tall against all odds and gets the job done, no matter the cost. Plus he has kickass green armor.

The story is just a typical sci-fi tale of aliens invading earth and a super soldier trying to save Earth. No, the Covenant don't even want Earth, they want Halo. The only reason they were at Earth in Halo 3 was to get through the portal into the Ark. Most other alien invasion stories seem to be about aliens can't survive on their own planet, they need to take Earth's or something like that.

The stories are formulaic and the dialogue is hamfisted! ...Hamfisted?

Seriously, whats so good about Halo's storyline?Its told incredibly well, has unique characters, and a surprisingly deep story involving what the Covenant want and how they are going to get there. Its the first game series to have such an incredible amount of fiction surrounding it, crafting a full fledged sci-fi universe, like in Star Wars or Lord of the Rings (only not thatgood ;) ).

g805ge

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Nothing, all I really care to know is that you're some dude in a suit killing aliens with some sassy computer program helping. The games still manage to be decent even if I don't care for the story.princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Nothing, all I really care to know is that you're some dude in a suit killing aliens with some sassy computer program helping. The games still manage to be decent even if I don't care for the story.princeofshapeir

The story isn't Halo's selling point, though it is certainly better than Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, and Half-Life.NBSRDan

The story in the Halo Trilogy is pretty much just the end of the Human/Covenant war, but there's also a lot of homage in Halo 2 and 3 for the books. If you want the complete Halo story, read the books, comics, anything that connects to the Halo games. Halo Wars too.

Halo has one of the best story lines in gaming, just because you don't read the books doesn't make it any less good.

[QUOTE="Cellpwn"]

Halo:CE's story was awesome. Halo 2's was decent. Halo 3's was silly.

SparkyProtocol

:lol: That is becuase you never saw the special unlockable ending where Megatron comes out of the water after the ship crashes!

As for halo's story? It is pretty bland and generic but it has to be that way as it is centered in a game. Unless you are dealing with an RPG you can rarely creat a truely inovative story like that of Dune or Enders Game. 40K is a bit deeper than Halo as far as lore goes but it can be just as silly at times. Overall Halo's story does exactly what it needs to do, connect one level to the other, nothing more and nothing less ( in a good way).

The story in the Halo Trilogy is pretty much just the end of the Human/Covenant war, but there's also a lot of homage in Halo 2 and 3 for the books. If you want the complete Halo story, read the books, comics, anything that connects to the Halo games. Halo Wars too.

Avian005

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="Cellpwn"]

Halo:CE's story was awesome. Halo 2's was decent. Halo 3's was silly.

:lol: That is becuase you never saw the special unlockable ending where Megatron comes out of the water after the ship crashes!

As for halo's story? It is pretty bland and generic but it has to be that way as it is centered in a game. Unless you are dealing with an RPG you can rarely creat a truely inovative story like that of Dune or Enders Game. 40K is a bit deeper than Halo as far as lore goes but it can be just as silly at times. Overall Halo's story does exactly what it needs to do, connect one level to the other, nothing more and nothing less ( in a good way).

[QUOTE="Avian005"]

The story in the Halo Trilogy is pretty much just the end of the Human/Covenant war, but there's also a lot of homage in Halo 2 and 3 for the books. If you want the complete Halo story, read the books, comics, anything that connects to the Halo games. Halo Wars too.

SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="Avian005"]

The story in the Halo Trilogy is pretty much just the end of the Human/Covenant war, but there's also a lot of homage in Halo 2 and 3 for the books. If you want the complete Halo story, read the books, comics, anything that connects to the Halo games. Halo Wars too.

wstfld

There WH books where around long before the video games, so are you saying that all people who read are virgins?

[QUOTE="ekalbtwin"] It is all one story though >.> How was Halo 3 story silly? I don't rememver Chief summoning Optimus Prime ahd danced on top of a mountain or anything :PSparkyProtocol

:lol: That is becuase you never saw the special unlockable ending where Megatron comes out of the water after the ship crashes!

As for halo's story? It is pretty bland and generic but it has to be that way as it is centered in a game. Unless you are dealing with an RPG you can rarely creat a truely inovative story like that of Dune or Enders Game. 40K is a bit deeper than Halo as far as lore goes but it can be just as silly at times. Overall Halo's story does exactly what it needs to do, connect one level to the other, nothing more and nothing less ( in a good way).

I believe that most people don't care anymore as its always the same old "the imperium is going to fall with the coming of the nids or the necrons or the dark eldar or chaos or orks or... you get the idea. Halo won't see this kind of redundency for a while as it is telling its story one game at a time instead of telling the ending of a story that started thousands of years ago. If the 40k universe was set in the Emperor's lifetime instead of being so far forward in time it would not have to be so stagnent.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Nothing even the books of what I have read compare nothing to other sci-fi universes... Warhammer 40k blows it out of the water.. But I don't think Halo is known for the story as so much as being a good console shooter.SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="ekalbtwin"]

:lol: That is becuase you never saw the special unlockable ending where Megatron comes out of the water after the ship crashes!

As for halo's story? It is pretty bland and generic but it has to be that way as it is centered in a game. Unless you are dealing with an RPG you can rarely creat a truely inovative story like that of Dune or Enders Game. 40K is a bit deeper than Halo as far as lore goes but it can be just as silly at times. Overall Halo's story does exactly what it needs to do, connect one level to the other, nothing more and nothing less ( in a good way).

ekalbtwin

I believe that most people don't care anymore as its always the same old "the imperium is going to fall with the coming of the nids or the necrons or the dark eldar or chaos or orks or... you get the idea. Halo won't see this kind of redundency for a while as it is telling its story one game at a time instead of telling the ending of a story that started thousands of years ago. If the 40k universe was set in the Emperor's lifetime instead of being so far forward in time it would not have to be so stagnent.

if you where to put the entire Halo story into a book then you'd be lucky to break 2 chapters.

I don't get what's so interesting about the Halo stories and universe! They're filled with derivative sci-fi cliches and the dialogue is so bad to the point it uses one liners that are more corny than any Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. The characters are so forgettable, they're just 2 dimensional stereo-types and cardboard cutouts.It is not cliche in any way. Did you even pay attention to the cutscenes, infact the game itself? I bet not.

The Covenant, its a collection of eight alien beings (Engineers are in the books, Halo Wars, and the upcoming Halo: Reach), who are pulled together in a religous belief set by the Forunners (Gods to the Covenant). It first started with Elites and Prophets; they were in a war until they found clues to the Forunners, and then they joined together to find more information about Halo. The Covenant believedHalo was home to a 'Great Journey', where those who believed and were rightous, could pass through. The Covenant was around for hundreds of years, killing an enemy or letting them join they're Covenant, anything to find Halo. In 2532, the Covenant found humanity, and then the war began. Around the start of the was, the Prophet of Regret found an Oracle, who told the Prophet humanity were the Reclaimers of Halo. The Prophets hid this and had the Covenant destroy humanity.

Soon, the Elites began to question about humanity's destruction. As time passed, Elites started to find more information linking the humans to the Forunners, and possibly the truth. The Prophets believed this was heirecy; they commanded all other species to kill the Elites, for the Elites were no longer with the Covenant. At first, the Elites still believed the human were enemies, until the Arbiter proved other wise. That's how the Elites and the Humans became allies.

Within months, the Covenant was destroyed. That's just the Covenant (and that's not even most of the information!). If you want to learn more, go read the books.

For the whole dialoge complaint, wrong, just plain wrong.

This where all the fanboys cry out; "but you need to read the books to understand it!" I have read all the books, I have to say they're poorly written and filled with Deus Ex Machina. They don't expand the universe in any way, they just add a little of backstory for the spartans. You haven't read the books, have you? One book covers the Spartans, the others are completely different.

The universe maybe be deep {kinda} for video games but compared hundreds of sci-fi TV shows, movies, and books it's weak and shallow.Even by FPS standards the story is poor! There are FPS that have better stories than Halo like BioShock, Deus Ex, Call of Duty 4, System Shock 2, and most of all the Half-Life series especially 2. Again, read the books andplay the games (watching and paying attention to the cutscenes).


And what's so interesting and iconic about Master Chief? He's just a typical and cliche gruff cyborg soldier. We even never get to see his face! READ THE GODDAMN BOOKS! This proves you have never touched the books.

The story is just a typical sci-fi tale of aliens invading earth and a super soldier trying to save Earth. You keep going on, do you? Besides, Halo:CEdidn't tae place anywhere near Earth. Nor the books.

The stories are formulaic and the dialogue is hamfisted! You already said this.

Seriously, whats so good about Halo's storyline? I've just said it, now discover it.

g805ge

if you where to put the entire Halo story into a book then you'd be lucky to break 2 chapters.

mattisgod01

Halo's storyline sucks from what I've seen. The book are probably the best. But then again, I don't know why anyone would want to buy those books when there are probably 23424 better sci-fi books.

Halo's storyline sucks from what I've seen. The book are probably the best. But then again, I don't know why anyone would want to buy those books when there are probably 23424 better sci-fi books.

mD-

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

if you where to put the entire Halo story into a book then you'd be lucky to break 2 chapters.

ekalbtwin

[QUOTE="mD-"]

Halo's storyline sucks from what I've seen. The book are probably the best. But then again, I don't know why anyone would want to buy those books when there are probably 23424 better sci-fi books.

Lance_Kalzas

Halo's storyline sucks from what I've seen. The book are probably the best. But then again, I don't know why anyone would want to buy those books when there are probably 23424 better sci-fi books.

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"][QUOTE="mD-"]

Halo's storyline sucks from what I've seen. The book are probably the best. But then again, I don't know why anyone would want to buy those books when there are probably 23424 better sci-fi books.

mD-

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"] It's called "To each his own" or "One person's trash is another person's treasure". That's what is so great about opinions. The fact that you say Halo's storyline sucks is 100% subjective.SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="mD-"] Yeah, then I you'll be repeating this phrase to people all day. Of course it's my d*** opinion, It's funny how people on these boards always have to recite this over and over. Even though it's a opinion, I bet that if I asked people who at Sci-Fi buffs and Halo fans, they'd put Halo at the bottom in terms of storylines.mD-