Yeah. that was rather obvious. To answer your question. Here, in list form: 1. Cross Game Chat. 2. In Game sign-in. 3. Cross Game invites. Basically overall much better access to interact with your friend's list while in a game. 4. Much better lay out and structure across NXE and XBL. The organization makes navigation much easier on XBL. 5. Download servers are by and far superior to PSN's. This goes for downloading demos OR game updates. PSN's servers are SLOW. 6. Demos can instantly be played, while on PSN they first must be INSTALLED. Which for games like R&C can take SEVERAL minutes. 7. An overall feel of better integration between The 360 and NXE/XBL. Whereas XMB/PSN feels highly tacked on in areas and not well implemented. I think that covers just about every feature.What is this plenty??? I really want to know. Its no secret I prefer Playstation
iKINGBOBi
Whats so great about Xbox Live?
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Why would I want to use my minutes when I already have a service integrated to allow me to communicate with people through my console? Cross game chat is more than just talking while playing two different games. My friend could be playing borderlands, send me an invite while I'm navigating the XBL store, or customizing my avatar or check my messages, I could then accept the party invite, start chatting with him while I'm finishing up what I'm doing, then go to the "Party" screen which shows what each of your friends in the party is doing, and then JUMP INTO the game of Borderlands that he's playing, all the while never stop talking to him. Also, because the 360 ships with a headset, almost everyone on XBL uses it while playing MP, so I make new friends all the time that I necessarily wouldn't want to give my telephone number too, but are fun people to joke around with while playing games on my 360.Quick question guys, if you know your friend in person, why not just hit them up by phone. If you don't know them in person, why would you want to speak to a complete stranger while you're playing a different game then them. It makes no sense to me, cross game chat is a distraction if you ask me. I was playing Facebreaker on my 360 and my other friends were playing Halo 3, I was getting my ass kicked because I was doing small talk with them.
iKINGBOBi
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]Yeah. that was rather obvious. To answer your question. Here, in list form: 1. Cross Game Chat. 2. In Game sign-in. 3. Cross Game invites. Basically overall much better access to interact with your friend's list while in a game. 4. Much better lay out and structure across NXE and XBL. The organization makes navigation much easier on XBL. 5. Download servers are by and far superior to PSN's. This goes for downloading demos OR game updates. PSN's servers are SLOW. 6. Demos can instantly be played, while on PSN they first must be INSTALLED. Which for games like R&C can take SEVERAL minutes. 7. An overall feel of better integration between The 360 and NXE/XBL. Whereas XMB/PSN feels highly tacked on in areas and not well implemented. I think that covers just about every feature.What is this plenty??? I really want to know. Its no secret I prefer Playstation
mythrol
PSN has cross game invites:|, MOST demos take approximately 1 minute to install but I'll let you have that one. Besides cross game chat, and in game sign in, everything else is an opinion. Thats just the way I see things. These things may mean the world to you, but they are truly miniscule. I respectfully disagree.
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]Why would I want to use my minutes when I already have a service integrated to allow me to communicate with people through my console? Cross game chat is more than just talking while playing two different games. My friend could be playing borderlands, send me an invite while I'm navigating the XBL store, or customizing my avatar or check my messages, I could then accept the party invite, start chatting with him while I'm finishing up what I'm doing, then go to the "Party" screen which shows what each of your friends in the party is doing, and then JUMP INTO the game of Borderlands that he's playing, all the while never stop talking to him. Also, because the 360 ships with a headset, almost everyone on XBL uses it while playing MP, so I make new friends all the time that I necessarily wouldn't want to give my telephone number too, but are fun people to joke around with while playing games on my 360.Quick question guys, if you know your friend in person, why not just hit them up by phone. If you don't know them in person, why would you want to speak to a complete stranger while you're playing a different game then them. It makes no sense to me, cross game chat is a distraction if you ask me. I was playing Facebreaker on my 360 and my other friends were playing Halo 3, I was getting my ass kicked because I was doing small talk with them.
mythrol
Haha, Don't even bother with these guys man. Yeah just call them on the phone and sit there and talk with them for hours. What if someone wants to use the phone well there on it. Or if it is a cell phone, either you got a good plan or it's the weekend if you can talk for a long time without having to pay money for it.
Not to mention, in XBL there is such thing as PARTY CHAT, so up to 8 people can talk to eachother, imagine how much that would cost on the phone lol.
I think people that say cross game chat is useless, either have no friends, or like to be lonely. Or just mad the PS3 doesn't have it.
Quick question guys, if you know your friend in person, why not just hit them up by phone. If you don't know them in person, why would you want to speak to a complete stranger while you're playing a different game then them. It makes no sense to me, cross game chat is a distraction if you ask me. I was playing Facebreaker on my 360 and my other friends were playing Halo 3, I was getting my ass kicked because I was doing small talk with them.
Why would I want to use my minutes when I already have a service integrated to allow me to communicate with people through my console? Cross game chat is more than just talking while playing two different games. My friend could be playing borderlands, send me an invite while I'm navigating the XBL store, or customizing my avatar or check my messages, I could then accept the party invite, start chatting with him while I'm finishing up what I'm doing, then go to the "Party" screen which shows what each of your friends in the party is doing, and then JUMP INTO the game of Borderlands that he's playing, all the while never stop talking to him. Also, because the 360 ships with a headset, almost everyone on XBL uses it while playing MP, so I make new friends all the time that I necessarily wouldn't want to give my telephone number too, but are fun people to joke around with while playing games on my 360. Like he said, why would you waste minutes/ busy up the phone when you can prefectly talk to your friends on XBL? I did that today playing BFBC while my friend was playing Borderlands, we were just talking about stuff. It's called keeping in touch with friends. BTW, KingBoi, what's your GT? We'll play something online just so you could see how good XBL is compared to PSN[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]Why would I want to use my minutes when I already have a service integrated to allow me to communicate with people through my console? Cross game chat is more than just talking while playing two different games. My friend could be playing borderlands, send me an invite while I'm navigating the XBL store, or customizing my avatar or check my messages, I could then accept the party invite, start chatting with him while I'm finishing up what I'm doing, then go to the "Party" screen which shows what each of your friends in the party is doing, and then JUMP INTO the game of Borderlands that he's playing, all the while never stop talking to him. Also, because the 360 ships with a headset, almost everyone on XBL uses it while playing MP, so I make new friends all the time that I necessarily wouldn't want to give my telephone number too, but are fun people to joke around with while playing games on my 360. Like he said, why would you waste minutes/ busy up the phone when you can prefectly talk to your friends on XBL? I did that today playing BFBC while my friend was playing Borderlands, we were just talking about stuff. It's called keeping in touch with friends. BTW, KingBoi, what's your GT? We'll play something online just so you could see how good XBL is compared to PSNQuick question guys, if you know your friend in person, why not just hit them up by phone. If you don't know them in person, why would you want to speak to a complete stranger while you're playing a different game then them. It makes no sense to me, cross game chat is a distraction if you ask me. I was playing Facebreaker on my 360 and my other friends were playing Halo 3, I was getting my ass kicked because I was doing small talk with them.
93soccer
I'll send it to you over Xbox live, I never give my GT on the forums. My Gold sub is expired though
Yeah. that was rather obvious. To answer your question. Here, in list form: 1. Cross Game Chat. 2. In Game sign-in. 3. Cross Game invites. Basically overall much better access to interact with your friend's list while in a game. 4. Much better lay out and structure across NXE and XBL. The organization makes navigation much easier on XBL. 5. Download servers are by and far superior to PSN's. This goes for downloading demos OR game updates. PSN's servers are SLOW. 6. Demos can instantly be played, while on PSN they first must be INSTALLED. Which for games like R&C can take SEVERAL minutes. 7. An overall feel of better integration between The 360 and NXE/XBL. Whereas XMB/PSN feels highly tacked on in areas and not well implemented. I think that covers just about every feature.[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
What is this plenty??? I really want to know. Its no secret I prefer Playstation
iKINGBOBi
PSN has cross game invites:|, MOST demos take approximately 1 minute to install but I'll let you have that one. Besides cross game chat, and in game sign in, everything else is an opinion. Thats just the way I see things. These things may mean the world to you, but they are truly miniscule. I respectfully disagree.
You mean it's my opinion that XBL servers are faster than PSN's? Man. Just admit that PSN doesn't equal XBL and move on. Even if they're "miniscule" like you say, Hey guess what. 8.5 > 8.2.[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"][QUOTE="mythrol"] Yeah. that was rather obvious. To answer your question. Here, in list form: 1. Cross Game Chat. 2. In Game sign-in. 3. Cross Game invites. Basically overall much better access to interact with your friend's list while in a game. 4. Much better lay out and structure across NXE and XBL. The organization makes navigation much easier on XBL. 5. Download servers are by and far superior to PSN's. This goes for downloading demos OR game updates. PSN's servers are SLOW. 6. Demos can instantly be played, while on PSN they first must be INSTALLED. Which for games like R&C can take SEVERAL minutes. 7. An overall feel of better integration between The 360 and NXE/XBL. Whereas XMB/PSN feels highly tacked on in areas and not well implemented. I think that covers just about every feature.mythrol
PSN has cross game invites:|, MOST demos take approximately 1 minute to install but I'll let you have that one. Besides cross game chat, and in game sign in, everything else is an opinion. Thats just the way I see things. These things may mean the world to you, but they are truly miniscule. I respectfully disagree.
You mean it's my opinion that XBL servers are faster than PSN's? Man. Just admit that PSN doesn't equal XBL and move on. Even if they're "miniscule" like you say, Hey guess what. 8.5 > 8.2.Its close enough especially considering its free, just my opinion
You mean it's my opinion that XBL servers are faster than PSN's? Man. Just admit that PSN doesn't equal XBL and move on. Even if they're "miniscule" like you say, Hey guess what. 8.5 > 8.2.[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
PSN has cross game invites:|, MOST demos take approximately 1 minute to install but I'll let you have that one. Besides cross game chat, and in game sign in, everything else is an opinion. Thats just the way I see things. These things may mean the world to you, but they are truly miniscule. I respectfully disagree.
iKINGBOBi
Its close enough especially considering its free, just my opinion
Free has nothing to do with it when we're considering OVERALL feature set, and quality of service and discussing WHICH is better. Heck that's like saying I could get a McDonald's hamburger or a steak. One's cheaper than the other but there's a REASON people still buy steaks.[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"][QUOTE="mythrol"] You mean it's my opinion that XBL servers are faster than PSN's? Man. Just admit that PSN doesn't equal XBL and move on. Even if they're "miniscule" like you say, Hey guess what. 8.5 > 8.2.mythrol
Its close enough especially considering its free, just my opinion
Free has nothing to do with it when we're considering OVERALL feature set, and quality of service and discussing WHICH is better. Heck that's like saying I could get a McDonald's hamburger or a steak. One's cheaper than the other but there's a REASON people still buy steaks.By your logic, PS3 is completely superior to 360 because of the features. I feel PS3 is better than 360 but some don't feel that way because they say they don't need the extra features PS3 has. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say "I dontz needz teh Bluray" "and Bluray is teh forced on me"
[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
Its close enough especially considering its free, just my opinion
Free has nothing to do with it when we're considering OVERALL feature set, and quality of service and discussing WHICH is better. Heck that's like saying I could get a McDonald's hamburger or a steak. One's cheaper than the other but there's a REASON people still buy steaks.By your logic, PS3 is completely superior to 360 because of the features. I feel PS3 is better than 360 but some don't feel that way because they say they don't need the extra features PS3 has. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say "I dontz needz teh Bluray" "and Bluray is teh forced on me"
So again by that logic, XBL is much better than PSN since it has more features, regardless of how useless you think they are. BTW, I saw your GT and we can't party up or play since your a sliver. Also, your so critical of XBL but you only played today and on the 2nd and before that. hadn't played since march 9th 2009.[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"][QUOTE="mythrol"] Free has nothing to do with it when we're considering OVERALL feature set, and quality of service and discussing WHICH is better. Heck that's like saying I could get a McDonald's hamburger or a steak. One's cheaper than the other but there's a REASON people still buy steaks. 93soccer
By your logic, PS3 is completely superior to 360 because of the features. I feel PS3 is better than 360 but some don't feel that way because they say they don't need the extra features PS3 has. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say "I dontz needz teh Bluray" "and Bluray is teh forced on me"
So again by that logic, XBL is much better than PSN since it has more features, regardless of how useless you think they are. BTW, I saw your GT and we can't party up or play since your a sliver. Also, your so critical of XBL but you only played today and on the 2nd and before that. hadn't played since march 9th 2009.Oh my. Did 93 soccer just own someone?
I don't see any advantages over PSN. Having gold, I almost feel ripped off knowing its pretty much EXACTLY the same thing as I get on my PS for free. Its kind of ridiculous TBQH
[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
By your logic, PS3 is completely superior to 360 because of the features. I feel PS3 is better than 360 but some don't feel that way because they say they don't need the extra features PS3 has. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say "I dontz needz teh Bluray" "and Bluray is teh forced on me"
So again by that logic, XBL is much better than PSN since it has more features, regardless of how useless you think they are. BTW, I saw your GT and we can't party up or play since your a sliver. Also, your so critical of XBL but you only played today and on the 2nd and before that. hadn't played since march 9th 2009.Oh my. Did 93 soccer just own someone?
LOL Thanks :?There is only a little little difference between PSN and Xbox live. Xbox live has cross game chat and cross game invites oh and custom soundtracks.. Other than that, they are identical. Once PS3 gets these features it will be exactly on par with Xbox live.. the whole argument about Xbox live being better held true in 2007, not today.
Free has nothing to do with it when we're considering OVERALL feature set, and quality of service and discussing WHICH is better. Heck that's like saying I could get a McDonald's hamburger or a steak. One's cheaper than the other but there's a REASON people still buy steaks.[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
Its close enough especially considering its free, just my opinion
iKINGBOBi
By your logic, PS3 is completely superior to 360 because of the features. I feel PS3 is better than 360 but some don't feel that way because they say they don't need the extra features PS3 has. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say "I dontz needz teh Bluray" "and Bluray is teh forced on me"
If blu-ray was clearly superior than the PS3 would be. However, blu-ray has slower read speeds than DVD9, which has caused mandatory installs or in the case of KZ2, times when the game COMPLETELY FREEZES to have to load in textures. If you want to discuss PS3 vs. 360, make a thread, now all you're trying to do is DEFLECT attention away from the fact that I've PROVIDED you the answer to your question MULTIPLE times already, and you just to stick your fingers in your ears and say "la la la la". XBL is superior to PSN. Move On.If you don't know then why should we tell you? I'm gonna keep it a secret
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"][QUOTE="mythrol"] Free has nothing to do with it when we're considering OVERALL feature set, and quality of service and discussing WHICH is better. Heck that's like saying I could get a McDonald's hamburger or a steak. One's cheaper than the other but there's a REASON people still buy steaks. 93soccer
By your logic, PS3 is completely superior to 360 because of the features. I feel PS3 is better than 360 but some don't feel that way because they say they don't need the extra features PS3 has. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say "I dontz needz teh Bluray" "and Bluray is teh forced on me"
So again by that logic, XBL is much better than PSN since it has more features, regardless of how useless you think they are. BTW, I saw your GT and we can't party up or play since your a sliver. Also, your so critical of XBL but you only played today and on the 2nd and before that. hadn't played since march 9th 2009.Thats gotta be a typo, I play my PS3 mostly but I know I played my 360 more than 3 times this past year. I know all about live bud, I had it since '07. My gold sub just expired actually.
Steam and Xfire both destroy xbox live and guess what their free. I played on PSN before it was an excellent service for what I buy a console for: PLAYING GAMES, and its free. Also xbox live is not friendly for those who play 360 games casually, I play bad company on a casual basis and every time I want to play online I have to buy a new subscription. 360 owners dont realize their getting ripped off, sure its only 5$ a month but that 5$ is an unnecessary fee.
Umm, you don't need XBL for custom soundtracks, you can do that offline too. What your saying COULD be true if MS stopped updating XBL but we both know that's not gonna happen so MS will keep introducing new stuff to increase the XBL features while Sony plays keep upThere is only a little little difference between PSN and Xbox live. Xbox live has cross game chat and cross game invites oh and custom soundtracks.. Other than that, they are identical. Once PS3 gets these features it will be exactly on par with Xbox live.. the whole argument about Xbox live being better held true in 2007, not today.
Kennysolidsnake
Unnecessary? So you mean it doesn't cost Microsoft any money at all to have all those demos hosted on FAST servers? All the game updates and DLC? It doesn't cost them ANY money to have a network set up to be able to handle voice chat by hundreds of thousands of people at the same time when using cross game chat / party chat? If this were the case, then why is it that Sony has announced that PSN will soon start offering a subscription service?Steam and Xfire both destroy xbox live and guess what their free. I played on PSN before it was an excellent service for what I buy a console for: PLAYING GAMES, and its free. Also xbox live is not friendly for those who play 360 games casually, I play bad company on a casual basis and every time I want to play online I have to buy a new subscription. 360 owners dont realize their getting ripped off, sure its only 5$ a month but that 5$ is an unnecessary fee.
NanoMan88
[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]Unnecessary? So you mean it doesn't cost Microsoft any money at all to have all those demos hosted on FAST servers? All the game updates and DLC? It doesn't cost them ANY money to have a network set up to be able to handle voice chat by hundreds of thousands of people at the same time when using cross game chat / party chat? If this were the case, then why is it that Sony has announced that PSN will soon start offering a subscription service?Steam and Xfire both destroy xbox live and guess what their free. I played on PSN before it was an excellent service for what I buy a console for: PLAYING GAMES, and its free. Also xbox live is not friendly for those who play 360 games casually, I play bad company on a casual basis and every time I want to play online I have to buy a new subscription. 360 owners dont realize their getting ripped off, sure its only 5$ a month but that 5$ is an unnecessary fee.
mythrol
Steam provides all this for free, I can download games at 1mb/s while downloads on 360 are nowhere as close. Steam also updates my games automatically I dont need to even load up the game, it also hosts DLC downloads. Cross game chat is also there. It seems you enjoy shelling out money without even knowing your getting jipped. Also the ps3 premium service is for people who want those unique features xbox live has such as faster downloads. It doesnt make you buy a 50$ gold service just to play the game you already paid for online using the internet connection you already purchased.
Unnecessary? So you mean it doesn't cost Microsoft any money at all to have all those demos hosted on FAST servers? All the game updates and DLC? It doesn't cost them ANY money to have a network set up to be able to handle voice chat by hundreds of thousands of people at the same time when using cross game chat / party chat? If this were the case, then why is it that Sony has announced that PSN will soon start offering a subscription service?[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="NanoMan88"]
Steam and Xfire both destroy xbox live and guess what their free. I played on PSN before it was an excellent service for what I buy a console for: PLAYING GAMES, and its free. Also xbox live is not friendly for those who play 360 games casually, I play bad company on a casual basis and every time I want to play online I have to buy a new subscription. 360 owners dont realize their getting ripped off, sure its only 5$ a month but that 5$ is an unnecessary fee.
NanoMan88
Steam provides all this for free, I can download games at 1mb/s while downloads on 360 are nowhere as close. Steam also updates my games automatically I dont need to even load up the game, it also hosts DLC downloads. Cross game chat is also there. It seems you enjoy shelling out money without even knowing your getting jipped. Also the ps3 premium service is for people who want those unique features xbox live has such as faster downloads. It doesnt make you buy a 50$ gold service just to play the game you already paid for online using the internet connection you already purchased.
Owned. Guess Valve has more money than M$ considering Steam can be done for free :P
The response to yours will be this is about PSN Vs Live, completely ignoring the fact that you pointed out the features that make Live so much better are being done for free through another service and much smaller company, completely destroying any argument justifying getting wallet raped by M$ :D
[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]Unnecessary? So you mean it doesn't cost Microsoft any money at all to have all those demos hosted on FAST servers? All the game updates and DLC? It doesn't cost them ANY money to have a network set up to be able to handle voice chat by hundreds of thousands of people at the same time when using cross game chat / party chat? If this were the case, then why is it that Sony has announced that PSN will soon start offering a subscription service?Steam and Xfire both destroy xbox live and guess what their free. I played on PSN before it was an excellent service for what I buy a console for: PLAYING GAMES, and its free. Also xbox live is not friendly for those who play 360 games casually, I play bad company on a casual basis and every time I want to play online I have to buy a new subscription. 360 owners dont realize their getting ripped off, sure its only 5$ a month but that 5$ is an unnecessary fee.
mythrol
You've tried to tell a casual online game player that voice chatting is the reason for the fee.....i doubt he is interested in that, you didnt really respond to the other points in that PSN service is great for PLAYING GAMES and that Live is not catered for casual online players.
PSN is going to have a subscription service but guess what?.....i have a choice wether to buy it or not and i can still play online for free, it boggles the mind that a company with a smaller bank account than M$ can still offer online play for free. As a previous live user one of the things i hated was knowing that i was paying to play online when i could've just bought the game on PS3 and be playing for free, hence why i no longer use Live.
i use both XBL and PSN and even though online play is free on the ps3; everything on the ps3 felt tacked on. ps3 fanboys wonder what is so great about cross chat and cross invites and even when explained they will STILL wonder what's the big deal. you can put on your 360 and within mins get into a conversation with afew of your friends on party chat.
once you've experienced how easy things are on XBL you will wish sony will follow suit and add all of these features.
i use both XBL and PSN and even though online play is free on the ps3; everything on the ps3 felt tacked on. ps3 fanboys wonder what is so great about cross chat and cross invites and even when explained they will STILL wonder what's the big deal. you can put on your 360 and within mins get into a conversation with afew of your friends on party chat.
once you've experienced how easy things are on XBL you will wish sony will follow suit and add all of these features.
lawlessx
But if im not interested in chatting, what does Live offer in terms of gaming online that makes me want to pay for it? The only thing i wish would be that M$ make silver accounts free to play online and make gold have all these pointless features.
Socialising doesnt count when its on a console :P
[QUOTE="lawlessx"]
i use both XBL and PSN and even though online play is free on the ps3; everything on the ps3 felt tacked on. ps3 fanboys wonder what is so great about cross chat and cross invites and even when explained they will STILL wonder what's the big deal. you can put on your 360 and within mins get into a conversation with afew of your friends on party chat.
once you've experienced how easy things are on XBL you will wish sony will follow suit and add all of these features.
dachase
But if im not interested in chatting, what does Live offer in terms of gaming online that makes me want to pay for it? The only thing i wish would be that M$ make silver accounts free to play online and make gold have all these pointless features.
Socialising doesnt count when its on a console :P
This
Leave all those "additional" features for gold accounts, let silver owners play their damn games online, which they bought already. It would still fail in comparison to Steam and Xfire as smaller companies can provide this service for free.
[QUOTE="lawlessx"]
i use both XBL and PSN and even though online play is free on the ps3; everything on the ps3 felt tacked on. ps3 fanboys wonder what is so great about cross chat and cross invites and even when explained they will STILL wonder what's the big deal. you can put on your 360 and within mins get into a conversation with afew of your friends on party chat.
once you've experienced how easy things are on XBL you will wish sony will follow suit and add all of these features.
dachase
But if im not interested in chatting, what does Live offer in terms of gaming online that makes me want to pay for it? The only thing i wish would be that M$ make silver accounts free to play online and make gold have all these pointless features.
Socialising doesnt count when its on a console :P
If you don't want those features (which are far from being pointless) than you should just stick with PSN. Unless you actually try gold you will never know how clunky PSN actually is.
[QUOTE="dachase"]
[QUOTE="lawlessx"]
i use both XBL and PSN and even though online play is free on the ps3; everything on the ps3 felt tacked on. ps3 fanboys wonder what is so great about cross chat and cross invites and even when explained they will STILL wonder what's the big deal. you can put on your 360 and within mins get into a conversation with afew of your friends on party chat.
once you've experienced how easy things are on XBL you will wish sony will follow suit and add all of these features.
BURSTIIIFIRE
But if im not interested in chatting, what does Live offer in terms of gaming online that makes me want to pay for it? The only thing i wish would be that M$ make silver accounts free to play online and make gold have all these pointless features.
Socialising doesnt count when its on a console :P
If you don't want those features (which are far from being pointless) than you should just stick with PSN. Unless you actually try gold you will never know how clunky PSN actually is.
Or get it on PC where all this stuff is free.
Your response still doesnt explain why silver can't play games online, in fact silver really cant do anything. Let gold be reserved for those who want those "features". I played on all 3 platforms and PC was the best by far, ps3 is good for what you want a console to do PLAY GAMES, and 360 dead last because it has the nerve to charge you for games you already bought.
- What I like so much about Xbox Live:
- The interface
- Easy access to Friend's List, Music List, and Marketplace
- Meeting new people online, quick access to gamertags/bios( which I use for mute/blocking of annoying gamers)
- The dashboard/XMB are all catered for games, making the XBL remind me that it's a gaming system first and foremost, everything else is extra
- What I dislike:
- I miss the blades
^thats it.
Unnecessary? So you mean it doesn't cost Microsoft any money at all to have all those demos hosted on FAST servers? All the game updates and DLC? It doesn't cost them ANY money to have a network set up to be able to handle voice chat by hundreds of thousands of people at the same time when using cross game chat / party chat? If this were the case, then why is it that Sony has announced that PSN will soon start offering a subscription service?[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="NanoMan88"]
Steam and Xfire both destroy xbox live and guess what their free. I played on PSN before it was an excellent service for what I buy a console for: PLAYING GAMES, and its free. Also xbox live is not friendly for those who play 360 games casually, I play bad company on a casual basis and every time I want to play online I have to buy a new subscription. 360 owners dont realize their getting ripped off, sure its only 5$ a month but that 5$ is an unnecessary fee.
NanoMan88
Steam provides all this for free, I can download games at 1mb/s while downloads on 360 are nowhere as close. Steam also updates my games automatically I dont need to even load up the game, it also hosts DLC downloads. Cross game chat is also there. It seems you enjoy shelling out money without even knowing your getting jipped. Also the ps3 premium service is for people who want those unique features xbox live has such as faster downloads. It doesnt make you buy a 50$ gold service just to play the game you already paid for online using the internet connection you already purchased.
You don't think you're paying for steam? You purchase your games through them. I'm aware that you do have the possibility of linking previously purchased games into steam, but have never done it myself nor know the entire process. Everyone that I know that uses steam BUYS THE GAMES FROM STEAM. So, oh right, maybe you aren't "paying for the service". . .but Valve still gets money from you. One way, or the other. I honestly can't believe that people are so naive. Nor does it your post even begin to answer my question. Are any of those actions that I described free? No. The business models may be different, but they all require money to run.[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Racer850"]What? You have to access the in-game XMB? Ok when i'm playing a game, and want to sign out, and sign into another profile, i'm told i need to leave my game to do this.That's what happens when i try to sign out.
Racer850
Are you trying to sign out of your Master Account which has your game data on it or trying to Sign out of PSN, because I'm able to sign out of PSN while being in a game.
[QUOTE="NanoMan88"][QUOTE="mythrol"] Unnecessary? So you mean it doesn't cost Microsoft any money at all to have all those demos hosted on FAST servers? All the game updates and DLC? It doesn't cost them ANY money to have a network set up to be able to handle voice chat by hundreds of thousands of people at the same time when using cross game chat / party chat? If this were the case, then why is it that Sony has announced that PSN will soon start offering a subscription service?mythrol
Steam provides all this for free, I can download games at 1mb/s while downloads on 360 are nowhere as close. Steam also updates my games automatically I dont need to even load up the game, it also hosts DLC downloads. Cross game chat is also there. It seems you enjoy shelling out money without even knowing your getting jipped. Also the ps3 premium service is for people who want those unique features xbox live has such as faster downloads. It doesnt make you buy a 50$ gold service just to play the game you already paid for online using the internet connection you already purchased.
You don't think you're paying for steam? You purchase your games through them. I'm aware that you do have the possibility of linking previously purchased games into steam, but have never done it myself nor know the entire process. Everyone that I know that uses steam BUYS THE GAMES FROM STEAM. So, oh right, maybe you aren't "paying for the service". . .but Valve still gets money from you. One way, or the other. I honestly can't believe that people are so naive. Nor does it your post even begin to answer my question. Are any of those actions that I described free? No. The business models may be different, but they all require money to run.Cross platforming communication is available to any game that you preload on your steam shortcut, just go to add non steam game, you dont have to buy from steam. As for auto game updating goes and other full steam support, it is available to any game with steam support u dont have to buy from steam Modern warfare 2 is an example. All PC games now are being supported by steam cause its just that good. Also steam is way cheaper than retail in most countries so everyone uses it anyways. Steam is also better because it has clan and group support which destroys anything on consoles. Please get your facts right before talking about steam.
As for xfire which you ignored, they are completly free and independent and they are 300 times better than xbox live even providing image and video sharing of your game exploits.
Also by your logic the xbox marketplace should cover the costs of xbox live service as players can buy games from it. Then why are people still paying 50$ a year?
I think you're confused about what the point of this thread is. This isn't to argue the MERIT of paying for XBL or not. This thread is discussing if XBL is superior to PSN. Cost doesn't matter at all in this regard. The TC didn't ask "Is XBL so much better that's it worth paying the price difference?" he wanted to know IF XBL was better. Too many times do cows try to make this discussion about XBL being WORTH the money and not whether XBL is superior or not. Whether it's worth it or not, is up for debate to some people. But there is no debate in regards to XBL being superior. Only the most blind of fanboys would try and act as if PSN = XBL.You've tried to tell a casual online game player that voice chatting is the reason for the fee.....i doubt he is interested in that, you didnt really respond to the other points in that PSN service is great for PLAYING GAMES and that Live is not catered for casual online players.
PSN is going to have a subscription service but guess what?.....i have a choice wether to buy it or not and i can still play online for free, it boggles the mind that a company with a smaller bank account than M$ can still offer online play for free. As a previous live user one of the things i hated was knowing that i was paying to play online when i could've just bought the game on PS3 and be playing for free, hence why i no longer use Live.
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