What's the big deal about COD4?

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#51 NorthlandMan
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Wow, you are now officially the greatest person on this forum to me.

I was thinking the same thing (but the developers actually said environmental destruction is a fad, and therefore it does not have it at all). There is actually a decent amount of action onscreen however and I think you're overanalyzing it a tad. I don't think it will be a bad game but I can't STAND reading "OH MY HERES CALL OF DUTY 4 AGAIN, THE MOST GORGEOUS GAME EVER!" because I find it underwhelming and the gameplay in Call of Duty 2 was trite and repetitive.

Plus, the multiplayer for CoD4 resembled Call of Duty 2's almost exactly.

Redfingers

Environmental destruction is NOT a fad. This new generation promises much but rarely delivers. I don want to see "more realistic fields" i want to see more action, better AI and more interactive environments. Killzone delivers all of these in spades as well as enemies that actually move like people and a greater sense of immersion

For a game that tries to engross you in the action so much COD 4 sure does **** it up by pulling you out of the action at the most innoportune times. I've played COD 1 and i dont want to see the same crap again "plant the C4, "snipe the guys". It's crap

i second that, redfingers. indeed, NorthlandMan always has well thought out posts. he actually backs up his opinion which is rare on system wars. i agree, COD4 doesnt look that great in motion. i tried to see what all the hype was about, but i soon realized it was lemmings hyping it so they can actually compare it to Killzone 2's graphics. sad sad sad.

Kalias

It's sad because people are saying this game looks great (Which it does, it actually looks better than Killzone in stills) but when you actually see someone playing it you just get the impression that somone's added some nice graphical toucches to Call of Duty 1 on the PC and dropped you in a different setting. Give me something exciting, whether it is the unique setting andd story of Bioshock or the sheer visceral thrills and hollywood level production values of KZ2.

The difference is it will play better on the Xbox 360 with better controls and multiplayer then on the Ps3. The PC is an another question

hoankiemdinh

Again completely irrelevant, you are missing the point of this topic entirely

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#52 skrat_01
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Ummm because its going to be the best COD since COD1 on PC.
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#53 HeHateMe_basic
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[QUOTE="apolloluke"]the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. FrozenLiquid

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

i love maps like that, you can enjoy the graphics without being shot at every second.

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#54 jimmygrace
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It just looks like an awesome game man.Besides Bungie, Epic, and Ubisoft to me Infinity Ward is right with those in terms of making awesome shooters.
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#55 Blackbond
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People complained about all the dark colors in GeOW and such, is there going to be anything in Killzone that's not black or grey? Or did I miss a trailer?
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#56 skrat_01
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People complained about all the dark colors in GeOW and such, is there going to be anything in Killzone that's not black or grey? Or did I miss a trailer?
Blackbond
Well it is only a snippet of gameplay.

Remember when everyone though Halo 2* was going to be mostley on earth?

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#57 tag_001
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This thread is stupid period, If you've played COD 1 and COD 2 you know what's the deal with COD4. Even if it looks like the "same old" gameplay you can still expect one hell of a game.

Now as far as graphics go both CoD 4 and KZ2 look relatively the same with the slight edge going to KZ2(although it's extremly dicussable, personally I prefer KZ2's art style). Only fanboys think that KZ2 or COD4 destroys one another graphicly.

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#58 djord02
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I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely any action on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictable

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

NorthlandMan

Go to http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/ and read about some of the new multiplayer features in the game like (i.e. double-tap, last stand and deep impact). Also you can watch videos of these features in action. Then go over to IGN and read their extended preview, found here: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/804/804394p1.html.

Oh and about that animation issue you mentioned. IGN said, quote:

"As our fellow soldiers scrabbled behind cover, we noticed one of the most impressive new effects in the game - character animation. The bosses at Infinity Ward need to give their animators and engine programmers a fat bonus cheque, as the animation is second to none. We can't recall any other game where the running, sliding, even stumbling, of the characters looked so real."

So much for your "but teh animation sucks" argument.

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#59 skrat_01
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This thread is stupid period, If you've played COD 1 and COD 2 you know what's the deal with COD4. Even if it looks like the "same old" gameplay you can still expect one hell of a game.

Now as far as graphics go both CoD 4 and KZ2 look relatively the same with the slight edge going to KZ2(although it's extremly dicussable, personally I prefer KZ2's art style). Only fanboys think that KZ2 or COD4 destroys one another graphicly.

tag_001

Yea I totally agree with you on all of that.

Though COD4s gameplay looks rather different to any previous one -after that vid. THe whole sneaking bit, reminds me so much of Operation Flashpoint Black Ops missions. Hiding amoung bushes while the enemy sweeps the vicinity - tanks, soldiers, gunships and all.

I really hope its as good as COD1 though...... No COD has surpassed the PC original. That game was bloody amazing.. Not even 2 came near its greatness :P

Even the expansion was totally kickass!

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#60 ShaneBeck
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I liked you better when you were a sheep:(
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#61 Teuf_
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The graphics look great, but gameplay-wise it doesn't look terribly exciting to me. But I've never played a COD game, so I dunno what to look for.
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#62 NorthlandMan
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The graphics look great, but gameplay-wise it doesn't look terribly exciting to me. But I've never played a COD game, so I dunno what to look for.Teufelhuhn

This my point exactly. I see it in screenshots i am wowed. I see someone playing it and i think it's 2003 all over again and i'm atching the original on my PC. Seriously WTF?

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#63 NorthlandMan
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I liked you better when you were a sheep:(ShaneBeck

In reality i was nver a sheep dude. I'm not really a fan of advocacy in any form but i know what i like and what i like is the PS3 and the DS. That's why whenever there is a topic criticisng either of those machines unjustly i'll step in and defend, them they are my machines of choice this gen and it is a decision i am more than happy with my choices

That said i am more than happy to accept criticsm of either of those machines if it is warranted

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#64 krp008
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:lol: Whats the big deal about Killzone?? Why are people hyping Killzone??

Infinity Ward = Knows how to make a great, AAA game.

Guerrilla = They have no idea.

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#65 housy2008
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PS3 owners bring KZ2 into every thread because thats the only game they can ever talk about besides the third party games, really sad. I've yet to talk to one person who owns a PS3 who isnt a raging fanboy, and talks about KZ2's "GRAPHICS" all the time, sad
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#66 Teuf_
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:lol: Whats the big deal about Killzone?? Why are people hyping Killzone??

krp008


We have seen the gameplay, and it is awesome. Isn't that enough to hype a game?
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#68 terdoo
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:lol: Whats the big deal about Killzone?? Why are people hyping Killzone??

Infinity Ward = Knows how to make a great, AAA game.

Guerrilla = They have no idea.

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#69 krp008
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[QUOTE="krp008"]

:lol: Whats the big deal about Killzone?? Why are people hyping Killzone??

Teufelhuhn



We have seen the gameplay, and it is awesome. Isn't that enough to hype a game?

Gameplay? It was EXACTLY like KZ1. Spraying bullets everwhere as the enemies spray bullets around your head as well. And we all know how KZ1 turned out...

Its hilarious how someone can say that the gameplay is "awesome" when all we saw was a guy running around shooting enemies, no strategy, skill, or depth at all. I guess i shouldn't expect a lot from a sequel to a 6.9 rated game. :?

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#70 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="apolloluke"]the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. FrozenLiquid

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

Agreed.
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#71 Teuf_
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Gameplay? It was EXACTLY like KZ1. Spraying bullets everwhere as the enemies spray bullets around your head as well. And we all know how KZ1 turned out...

krp008


Wow, you've used a description that could be applied to just about every FPS ever. Good job.
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#72 krp008
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="apolloluke"]the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. smokeydabear076

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

Agreed.

yea that demo reminded me a lot of the older and better Ghost Recon's. My bro DL'ed a demo of COD4 when it was night, explosions going off, airplanes blowing up and crashing by your feet with no hicups in framerate, turn on night vision and you can see everyones lasers. awesome. It was beautiful

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#73 krp008
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[QUOTE="krp008"]

Gameplay? It was EXACTLY like KZ1. Spraying bullets everwhere as the enemies spray bullets around your head as well. And we all know how KZ1 turned out...

Teufelhuhn



Wow, you you've used a description that could be applied to just about every FPS ever. Good job.

:lol: thats all it was! So no, it wasn't "amazing"

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#74 FrozenLiquid
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The graphics look great, but gameplay-wise it doesn't look terribly exciting to me. But I've never played a COD game, so I dunno what to look for.Teufelhuhn

Well, with the past CoD games, you were basically playing an interactive war movie. It was freakin' intense and had magic moments in it. You really need to try it out.

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#76 primetime2121
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[QUOTE="krp008"]

:lol: Whats the big deal about Killzone?? Why are people hyping Killzone??

Teufelhuhn



We have seen the gameplay, and it is awesome. Isn't that enough to hype a game?

wth ??you saw more gameplay from COD4 than the 2 minute vid of Killzone....COD4 looks sick...that is the best looking console game

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#77 hoankiemdinh
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[QUOTE="hoankiemdinh"][QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.XenogearsMaster

:lol:

Weren't you just saying stop hyping Halo 3 graphics in the other thread?

:lol: Cows :lol:

You were hyping it for the graphics to improve, which is sad.

What also sad is cows hyping a game that was downgraded...Killzone2

Actually, the saddest is hyping KZ2 as the 2nd worst flop of SW history.

BTW, pre-alpha.

Nope not really since it my opinion. But didn't cows hype Killzone1 as the Halo-Killer??? What the hype for Killzone 2.....

Just wait till Killzone2 releases and we'll see whats what