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#1 Gun_Haze
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I see lemmings saying "AAHHHH STICKY THIS!!" "OMG ITS OVER!!" "TEH CELL!!" "THE DOWNFALL" "MOM!!"... amongst other silly things.

Somebody with some intelliegence, can you tell me how this affects PS3 and future development of PS3 titles?

Thanks.

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#2 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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it means that ps4 wont be backwards compatible
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#3 Erkidu
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Because "teh Cell" was touted as the "end all be all" for Sony's competition. It was supposed to destroy everything and be the advantage that the PS3 had over the 360. And, now, they are abandoning it - so, it's fairly obvious that we won't see "teh Cell" (the most "advanced processor in consoles") in the PS4.
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#4 Gun_Haze
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it means that ps4 wont be backwards compatibleAwinagainov
How did you draw that conclusion?
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#5 Gun_Haze
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Because "teh Cell" was touted as the "end all be all" for Sony's competition. It was supposed to destroy everything and be the advantage that the PS3 had over the 360. And, now, they are abandoning it - so, it's fairly obvious that we won't see "teh Cell" (the most "advanced processor in consoles") in the PS4.Erkidu
So Its still in the PS3, what has changed?

Emotion engine is not in PS3.. what makes you think they won't have derived a new processor by PS4?

so no answer yet?

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#6 Erkidu
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"]Because "teh Cell" was touted as the "end all be all" for Sony's competition. It was supposed to destroy everything and be the advantage that the PS3 had over the 360. And, now, they are abandoning it - so, it's fairly obvious that we won't see "teh Cell" (the most "advanced processor in consoles") in the PS4.Gun_Haze

So Its still in the PS3, what has changed?

Emotion engine is not in PS3.. what makes you think they won't have derived a new processor by PS4?

so no answer yet?

:roll: As much as lemmings need to realize that this isn't as big a deal as they are making it out to be, cows need to realize that it is a big deal to some extent.
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#7 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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[QUOTE="Awinagainov"]it means that ps4 wont be backwards compatibleGun_Haze
How did you draw that conclusion?

because, once the cell is being used in its full potential, if ever, that architecture will be hard to replicate on a more general CPU
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#8 Ibacai
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It just means that Sony isn't in the Cell R&D or production anymore. The Cell is a part of the PS3 and Sony doesn't need to spend money on that when they can make a deal with Toshiba. Lemmings are jumping all over this and making outrageous assumptions as to what will happen now besides Sony spending less money on the Cell. I like how this means no PS4 to some lemmings. I don't even see how that can be even thought of because of this info. It's not like the Cell is going anywhere, Sony just isn't part of the R&D or production. Sony can just outsource.
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#9 Gun_Haze
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]it means that ps4 wont be backwards compatibleAwinagainov
How did you draw that conclusion?

because, once the cell is being used in its full potential, if ever, that architecture will be hard to replicate on a more general CPU

So you are aware of the technology that will be used in PS4?
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#10 Netherscourge
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The only real negative is that Sony still puts CELL in their PS3's - they should go with a standard AMD or Intel quad-Core CPU so developers won't have to waste money trying to figure out how to make games run on it.

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#11 Mad_Rhetoric
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wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

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#12 M0rph0_o
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it has no effect on the PS3. lemmings just need to be thrown a bone cause thier 360 is basically dead in 08 with no games
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[QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]it means that ps4 wont be backwards compatibleGun_Haze
How did you draw that conclusion?

because, once the cell is being used in its full potential, if ever, that architecture will be hard to replicate on a more general CPU

So you are aware of the technology that will be used in PS4?

obviously not, but they will likely go with an easy to use CPU, to get good games from the start
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Because "teh Cell" was touted as the "end all be all" for Sony's competition. It was supposed to destroy everything and be the advantage that the PS3 had over the 360. And, now, they are abandoning it - so, it's fairly obvious that we won't see "teh Cell" (the most "advanced processor in consoles") in the PS4.Erkidu

uhh???

okay.....

you keep thinking that

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#15 Truth-slayer
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They are no longer helping produce it. They arent abandoning it despite what the lemmings will spin it.
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#16 Gun_Haze
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It just means that Sony isn't in the Cell R&D or production anymore. The Cell is a part of the PS3 and Sony doesn't need to spend money on that when they can make a deal with Toshiba. Lemmings are jumping all over this and making outrageous assumptions as to what will happen now besides Sony spending less money on the Cell. I like how this means no PS4 to some lemmings. I don't even see how that can be even thought of because of this info. It's not like the Cell is going anywhere, Sony just isn't part of the R&D or production. Sony can just outsource.Ibacai
Exactly and thanks for explaining.

hard to get some sense out of SW general population lol

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#17 Gun_Haze
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]it means that ps4 wont be backwards compatibleAwinagainov
How did you draw that conclusion?

because, once the cell is being used in its full potential, if ever, that architecture will be hard to replicate on a more general CPU

So you are aware of the technology that will be used in PS4?

obviously not, but they will likely go with an easy to use CPU, to get good games from the start

Likely. There's always software emulation though.. not as effective but w/e who knows how they'll work it out.
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#18 Spartan070
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It affects Sony.

It concerns the Cell.

This is System Wars.

Do the Math.:)

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It just means that Sony isn't in the Cell R&D or production anymore. The Cell is a part of the PS3 and Sony doesn't need to spend money on that when they can make a deal with Toshiba. Lemmings are jumping all over this and making outrageous assumptions as to what will happen now besides Sony spending less money on the Cell. I like how this means no PS4 to some lemmings. I don't even see how that can be even thought of because of this info. It's not like the Cell is going anywhere, Sony just isn't part of the R&D or production. Sony can just outsource.Ibacai

Its a big enough deal that they didnt have enough confidence in the "all-mighty" Cell to go more than 1 generation...
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#20 Gun_Haze
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wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

Mad_Rhetoric

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

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#21 Gun_Haze
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It affects Sony.

It concerns the Cell.

This is System Wars.

Do the Math.:)

Spartan070
so basically they don't understand what it means, they just go by the first two things you said and start jerking off to "bad" news huh lol
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#23 Gun_Haze
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Soooooo...

This must be the cow group therapy thread right? :lol::lol:

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Half the ppl in here are not cows and don't own PS3s.. they just have brains. That's all.
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#25 exiledsnake
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Well, it is a big deal since this was Sony's pride and joy. But i dont understand why the lemmings are making stupid predictions from this story like ps3 dead in 6 months, ps4 cant have cell, blu-ray will be going soon too and ps3 development will be affected. They're just outsourcing their processor technology so they don't have to waste money on R&D. Its not like toshiba is going to say "NO! You can't have the CELL!" to sony. And blu-ray is doing well actually so i dont know how predictions for its demisec ame about.
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#26 Mad_Rhetoric
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

Gun_Haze

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

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#27 Gun_Haze
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Well, it is a big deal since this was Sony's pride and joy. But i dont understand why the lemmings are making stupid predictions from this story like ps3 dead in 6 months, ps4 cant have cell, blu-ray will be going soon too and ps3 development will be affected. They're just outsourcing their processor technology so they don't have to waste money on R&D. Its not like toshiba is going to say "NO! You can't have the CELL!" to sony. And blu-ray is doing well actually so i dont know how predictions for its demisec ame about.exiledsnake
Pretty much.
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#28 Gun_Haze
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

Mad_Rhetoric

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

I am the TC lol anyway, Here's the magical question: What's the "ownage" in it? What does it mean?

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#29 Shad0ki11
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It's time for Sony to abandon ship.

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#30 Gun_Haze
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It's time for Sony to abandon ship.

Shad0ki11

You got the saying wrong..Sony IS the ship :|

Anyway, why?

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#31 Mad_Rhetoric
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

Gun_Haze

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

I am the TC lol anyway, Here's the magical question: What's the "ownage" in it? What does it mean?

sony hyped the cell to another demention and back and them now admitting its a failure is a slap in the face to cows
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#32 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]it means that ps4 wont be backwards compatibleAwinagainov
How did you draw that conclusion?

because, once the cell is being used in its full potential, if ever, that architecture will be hard to replicate on a more general CPU

This why they should have just stuck with C2D or Quad Core. Or invested money in a console designed quad core.

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#34 Gun_Haze
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

Mad_Rhetoric

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

I am the TC lol anyway, Here's the magical question: What's the "ownage" in it? What does it mean?

sony hyped the cell to another demention and back and them now admitting its a failure is a slap in the face to cows

How did they admit its a failure? and how the they slap anybody?

This just means they spend less money on the cell..If you think that is..

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#35 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

It's time for Sony to abandon ship.

Gun_Haze

You got the saying wrong..Sony IS the ship :|

Anyway, why?

If Sony's the ship, then who's on it?

Have you forgotten that Sony has more divisions besides gaming?

I'd say the PS3 is the Ship, and Sony game division is on board.

-_-"

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It shows that Sony lost enough money with the PS3 that they need to re think their other major investments. They decided loosing 1billion now pulling out of the cell development was cost effective.
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#38 Gun_Haze
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

PoppaLemming

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

I am the TC lol anyway, Here's the magical question: What's the "ownage" in it? What does it mean?

It's in the previous thread. That is why you posted an entirely new thread to spin the argument in your favor. lol@ the tactics of the scorned. This is a huge blow for the PS3. It's funny how every time we get piled on with bad news from sony, cows come up with the same silly argument of "how does this affect the PS3" :lol:Even if Sony came foward and said "hey, the PS3 has been discontinued" you silly cows would still say "how does this affect the PS3 :lol::lol:

Did you know you still haven't said anything? lol "tactics of the scorned" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just a bunch of assumptions, eratic scenarios, and foolery.

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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

Gun_Haze

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

I am the TC lol anyway, Here's the magical question: What's the "ownage" in it? What does it mean?

sony hyped the cell to another demention and back and them now admitting its a failure is a slap in the face to cows

How did they admit its a failure? and how the they slap anybody?

This just means they spend less money on the cell..If you think that is..

its really simple:

YOUR IN DENIAL!

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#40 Gun_Haze
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

MrGrimFandango

sony hyped the cell to another demention and back and them now admitting its a failure is a slap in the face to cows

How did they admit its a failure? and how the they slap anybody?

This just means they spend less money on the cell..If you think that is..

If you think thats all it means, your crazy.

I'm crazy? strike 1 lol

So, tell me what spending less money on R&D for cell means?

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#41 dream431ca
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Link with proof about Sony "abandoning" the Cell. I doubt they would ever do that.
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#42 Gun_Haze
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

Mad_Rhetoric

sony hyped the cell to another demention and back and them now admitting its a failure is a slap in the face to cows

How did they admit its a failure? and how the they slap anybody?

This just means they spend less money on the cell..If you think that is..

its really simple:

YOUR IN DENIAL!

ahhh I've worked my way to the limit of fanboy intelligence :D

so, that's it..you can't say more than that?

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#43 exiledsnake
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It's in the previous thread. That is why you posted an entirely new thread to spin the argument in your favor. lol@ the tactics of the scorned. This is a huge blow for the PS3. It's funny how every time we get piled on with bad news from sony, cows come up with the same silly argument of "how does this affect the PS3" :lol:Even if Sony came foward and said "hey, the PS3 has been discontinued" you silly cows would still say "how does this affect the PS3 :lol::lol:

PoppaLemming

now thats going a bit too far. if ps3s are discontinued, i dont even think the cows will like sony after that. They might even bomb sony HQ if that happened.

And your comparison is kinda off too. Cell is not being discontinued, its just being outsourced. Its a huge blow to sony but not that much for a ps3 gamer.

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#44 Gun_Haze
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So cell is not discontinued, Its outsorced.

I see..

Lemmings might want to refer to a dictionary.

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#45 M0rph0_o
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

PoppaLemming

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

I am the TC lol anyway, Here's the magical question: What's the "ownage" in it? What does it mean?

It's in the previous thread. That is why you posted an entirely new thread to spin the argument in your favor. lol@ the tactics of the scorned. This is a huge blow for the PS3. It's funny how every time we get piled on with bad news from sony, cows come up with the same silly argument of "how does this affect the PS3" :lol:Even if Sony came foward and said "hey, the PS3 has been discontinued" you silly cows would still say "how does this affect the PS3 :lol::lol:

yet all your trolling you still cant explain how it effects the PS3

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#47 Gun_Haze
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Lemmings are indeed 'nature's retard'.

All this means is Sony is handing the production plant over so they don't have to spend the money on advances in cell's technology. By doing this, its one less thing Sony has to worry about. Sony now is just going to be buying their cell chips from Toshiba while they along with IBM takes on the responsibility of making them.

The PS3 has the Cell now and will have it for the rest of the console's life. Seriously lemmings need to take some economics courses and then they may finally realize that this will be saving Sony money in the long run.

alextheman123

Yea lol

Somethign about SW doesn't let ppl think

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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

wow, this has to be the dumbest thread of the week

:lol:

Mad_Rhetoric

Elaborate.

Or that would be the dumbest post of the week :lol:

the TC not knowing sony abandoning the cell is massive ownage

did you not figure that out?

the cell in the ps3 whats the problem. sony stop trying to advance on the cell. meaning there saving on money lems need to stop and read.

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#49 jessie5788
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[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

It's time for Sony to abandon ship.

Shad0ki11

You got the saying wrong..Sony IS the ship :|

Anyway, why?

If Sony's the ship, then who's on it?

Have you forgotten that Sony has more divisions besides gaming?

I'd say the PS3 is the Ship, and Sony game division is on board.

-_-"

you didn't state why the sony needs to abandon ship. please explain if you going to say dumb ideas you need to tell why.

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#50 thirstychainsaw
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Lemmings are indeed 'nature's retard'.

All this means is Sony is handing the production plant over so they don't have to spend the money on advances in cell's technology. By doing this, its one less thing Sony has to worry about. Sony now is just going to be buying their cell chips from Toshiba while they along with IBM takes on the responsibility of making them.

The PS3 has the Cell now and will have it for the rest of the console's life. Seriously lemmings need to take some economics courses and then they may finally realize that this will be saving Sony money in the long run.

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So what you're saying is the Cell is indeed a flop? If it wasn't why would Sony give up manufacturing rights? I mean if the Cell didn't flop and it was going to make Sony millions, why would they back out of it?