What's the haters excuse now?

Well the 3ds will most likely have games as good looking as the psp games. Now my question is: why aren't people dissing this handheldfor having console type games like they did for the psp? I'm sure I'll love the damage control here, or sw can admit they have given the psp unnecesary hate.

Because not a lot of people care about handheld gaming

We haven't seen how it will pan out this time. It already has a Professor Layton game, so that's a start. And it still has the touch screen, so it's still got something to differentiate itself from a portable PS2.Cherokee_Jack

Because not a lot of people care about handheld gaming

Mattizzle815

Because it'll offer new, unique type games due to it's gyroscopes and touchscreens, but with better graphics? The PSP had nothing unique about it. It was just a nerfed PS2 made portable. WhenCicadasCry

Hey, I don't really care that much about Naruto, but don't you think you could at least have a picture that doesn't contain the least bit of spoilers about what special ninja powers a character has, so that it won't spoil fans who follow the anime and not the manga.YuriSH

[QUOTE="YuriSH"]Hey, I don't really care that much about Naruto, but don't you think you could at least have a picture that doesn't contain the least bit of spoilers about what special ninja powers a character has, so that it won't spoil fans who follow the anime and not the manga.edo-tensei

Not a hater, I just don't think PSP is worth the money, and I'm only interested in using a handheld device for gaming. I prefer Ninty handhelds, sue me.

Oot, Kid Icarus, Star Fox, all in 3D. Probably gonna be fun, BUT i'm not going to get the 3ds until the year after when the release the 3DS lite, which you know they will. Everytime i fall for buying a nintendo handheld on launch, its towered over by a much better version within a year.

Weren't the console ports PSP's most hyped games? So the 3DS can't have console remakes? themyth01

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="YuriSH"]Hey, I don't really care that much about Naruto, but don't you think you could at least have a picture that doesn't contain the least bit of spoilers about what special ninja powers a character has, so that it won't spoil fans who follow the anime and not the manga.YuriSH

Yeah, there is quite a lot of hypocrisy going around. The PSP was constantly hated on for having console-like experiences and for receiving ports/upgrades/remakes. With the 3DS? Not so much.

I've always loved the PSP though, so I have no reason to hate on the 3DS games. I'm looking forward to picking one up at launch.

It's not the games on the PSP that bother me so much as the load times and controls. When you're just trying to load up a game to kill a few minutes you don't want to spend a considerably portion of that time looking at a load screen. And the nub... oh god, whoever designed that thing should be fired... out of a cannon... INTO THE SUN! Futurama references aside, I generally prefer to use the d-pad on my PSP whenever possible just because of how bad that nub is. The 3DS has a "nub" of sorts too, but reports from E3 have all said it's a massive improvement over Sony's version.

[QUOTE="themyth01"]Weren't the console ports PSP's most hyped games? So the 3DS can't have console remakes? edo-tensei

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="themyth01"]Weren't the console ports PSP's most hyped games? So the 3DS can't have console remakes? themyth01

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]We haven't seen how it will pan out this time. It already has a Professor Layton game, so that's a start. And it still has the touch screen, so it's still got something to differentiate itself from a portable PS2.edo-tensei

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] Of course it can have console remakes, only that the psp on the other hand would get bashed for it. Sony has their first party ips on the psp as brand new entries yet people called those console like games that would have faired better on a console. Isn't that the same for the wii/3ds. Just pointing out double standars in sw.Ragnarok1051

Yup also its was always used as a negative for the psp. It was always "its a console experiance on the go thats just dumb" and so forth. Now that 3ds is doing the same exact thing I better not hear jack from anyone whos getting a 3ds and games like MGS on the 3ds talking crap about psp and cosole gaming on the go is one of its negative. Since that would make the person a automatic hypocrite.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]We haven't seen how it will pan out this time. It already has a Professor Layton game, so that's a start. And it still has the touch screen, so it's still got something to differentiate itself from a portable PS2.Cherokee_Jack

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

The most its going to do is more easy navigate menu since its touch and some mini games to do stuff within the game. It still will be at its core a console game on the go.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]We haven't seen how it will pan out this time. It already has a Professor Layton game, so that's a start. And it still has the touch screen, so it's still got something to differentiate itself from a portable PS2.Cherokee_Jack

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]This. The DS offered a completely different experience then what was available. The PSP offered PS2 like experiences. I'd rather play an innovative game like Trauma Centre: Under The Knife than a horribly 3D version of an effectively 5 year old last gen game, gameplay wise. I mean, look at LoZ: Phantom Hourglass. It featured gameplay that wasn't available anywhere else. GoW: COO, while an awesome game, was just a nerfed version of the PS2 variants. :roll: PS. People still watch / read Naruto? :lol: Slashkice

It's a shame you're not interested in the 3DS lineup. It looks really good!

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] psp also has different kinds of games and not just ps2 games. finalfantasy94

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

The most its going to do is more easy navigate menu since its touch and some mini games to do stuff within the game. It still will be at its core a console game on the go.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] psp also has different kinds of games and not just ps2 games. WhenCicadasCry

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

I better not hear your excited for OOT or MGS3ds or games like that on the 3ds. They wont add anything really different execpt the 3d and some touch for easy navigation or like I said before a event turned to a mini game like game. Like doing the orcriana tunes by touching the notes.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

Cherokee_Jack

The most its going to do is more easy navigate menu since its touch and some mini games to do stuff within the game. It still will be at its core a console game on the go.

No but for games like MGS 3ds I dont see them doing that much special that it will be a complety differenct experiance. Its just complete flip flop that people hated the psp for having console like games on the go,but now that nintendo does it its just fine since they got touch and 3d. That doesint change jack.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

finalfantasy94

I better not hear your excited for OOT or MGS3ds or games like that on the 3ds. They wont add anything really different execpt the 3d and some touch for easy navigation or like I said before a event turned to a mini game like game. Like doing the orcriana tunes by touching the notes.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

The most its going to do is more easy navigate menu since its touch and some mini games to do stuff within the game. It still will be at its core a console game on the go.

finalfantasy94

No but for games like MGS 3ds I dont see them doing that much special that it will be a complety differenct experiance.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]I never said I wasn't. :? I've already said that the 3DS will hopefully reinvigorate them with innovative touchscreen / tilt controls. :)Slashkice

Adding touchscreen/tilt controls doesn't magically change the nature of a game that wasn't designed for them. Metal Gear Solid 3, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and Starfox were console experiences...on consoles. It naturally follows that they will be console experiences on the 3DS. A lot of the lineup looks like it'll be similar to their console counterparts. Super Street Fighter IV and Dead or Alive aren't going to be very different than what we're used to seeing for example.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] I'm not sure I understand. Will developers forget how to implement the touch screen when they get 3DS dev kits?Cherokee_Jack

No but for games like MGS 3ds I dont see them doing that much special that it will be a complety differenct experiance.

No the problem is that some people are now ok with the console experiance on the go since nintendo is doing it,but when sony did it it was just wrong and was made by the devil and other overexadruations. I know there will be those special games that will make the 3ds stand out,but then there will be the others like I said something like mgs3ds that just adds 3d and touch stuff,but still will console games on the go. How people will be fine with that,but yet hate psp for it. It just hurts my brain.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]I never said I wasn't. :? I've already said that the 3DS will hopefully reinvigorate them with innovative touchscreen / tilt controls. :)WhenCicadasCry

Adding touchscreen/tilt controls doesn't magically change the nature of a game that wasn't designed for them. Metal Gear Solid 3, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and Starfox were console experiences...on consoles. It naturally follows that they will be console experiences on the 3DS. A lot of the lineup looks like it'll be similar to their console counterparts. Super Street Fighter IV and Dead or Alive aren't going to be very different than what we're used to seeing for example.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

No but for games like MGS 3ds I dont see them doing that much special that it will be a complety differenct experiance.

finalfantasy94

No the problem is that some people are now ok with the console experiance on the go since nintendo is doing it,but when sony did it it was just wrong and was made by the devil and other overexadruations. I know there will be those special games that will make the 3ds stand out,but then there will be the others like I said something like mgs3ds that just adds 3d and touch stuff,but still will console games on the go. How people will be fine with that,but yet hate psp for it. It just hurts my brain.

Like I said, the problem people had was that the console experience seemed to dominate the PSP - it had few unique games to make its library stand out. (I can't say for sure because I don't own a PSP, but this is generally what the argument is and seems to be the case.)

If the 3DS ends up being a dumping ground for ports and remakes and downgraded console games, then it would be proper to lay the same criticisms on it, But we have yet to see this happen.

psp also has different kinds of games and not just ps2 games. edo-tensei

Yes, but the issue with the PSP for many people was that they could get most everything that was good on PSP on consoles in some form or another, and usually better.

Whereas touch controlled games, and 2D games relegated to handhelds like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright, could only be had on DS.

Since the 3DS still has a touch screen, and there's a history of strong 2D support on the DS platforms, the 3DS will most likely continue offering a unique experience that feels different, not just alternate.

I thought we all came to the conclusion that the DS completely owns the psp when the psp users finally gave up posting :|

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] I'm talking about the library as a whole, not the ports. The topic seemed to say that people who complained about the nature of the PSP's library have to say the same thing about the 3DS when it's not even out yet, simply because a few remakes and ports were announced among the original games.Cherokee_Jack

No the problem is that some people are now ok with the console experiance on the go since nintendo is doing it,but when sony did it it was just wrong and was made by the devil and other overexadruations. I know there will be those special games that will make the 3ds stand out,but then there will be the others like I said something like mgs3ds that just adds 3d and touch stuff,but still will console games on the go. How people will be fine with that,but yet hate psp for it. It just hurts my brain.

Like I said, the problem people had was that the console experience seemed to dominate the PSP - it had few unique games to make its library stand out. (I can't say for sure because I don't own a PSP, but this is generally what the argument is and seems to be the case.)

If the 3DS ends up being a dumping ground for ports and remakes and downgraded console games, then it would be proper to lay the same criticisms on it, But we have yet to see this happen.

I thought we all came to the conclusion that the DS completely owns the psp when the psp users finally gave up posting :|

Dycras

I'd like to point out that the DS felt like a console on the go as well. I mostly played RPGs that were port/remakes that hardly used the touch screen at all. Felt like I was playing the SNES on the go. Didn't bother me though so that excuse against the PSP really didn't make me hate it either. I enjoy both of them.