What's the longest a console has gone without an AA+ exclusive in its lifetime ?

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The 360 hasn't had one since gears 2 and I was just wondering if any console has failed so badly before.

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The Pippin - Never had one

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#4 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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Hmm. Good question, I Think that goes to the PS3.

Resistance to Warhawk.

11/15/2006 to 8/29/2007

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Hmmm...good question.

I know the 360 was suffering from a drought, but I didn't realize the severity.

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Honestly if during that time a console still gets a few AA / AAA multiplats it really doesnt bother me much..

Also with upcoming titles such as Forza3 & Halo:ODST having a good chance of being AAA titles, it wont be much of a longer wait for 360 only owners..

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#8 SolidTy
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Hmm. Good question, I Think that goes to the PS3.

Resistance to Warhawk.

11/15/2006 to 8/29/2007

Stevo_the_gamer

Assuming this is correct, that means that the 360 overtook that formerly held PS3 record, as Halo ODST and Forza come out after August.

Although, the 360 kinda gets a free ride, since it's 1st year, it had no next gen competition...kinda like the Dreamcast, but the 360 was far more successful. :)
Ah well, I suffered through PS3's 2007, and 360's 2008, I can make it throught 2009 as well. :)

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#9 SolidTy
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SHADOW COMPLEX DOESNT COUNT RIGHT!!!!!??? HOW ABOUT HALO WARS

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Halo Wars Scored a 6.5, that's what we are not giving the PS3 any room too, just like the TC didn't count PSN titles(It's a whole other can of worms.).

HALO WARS Gamespot Review = 6.5.

When looking at AA+ SW GS Retail Droughts, I suppose that PS3's 1st year, 2007 = to 360's 4th year, 2009?

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Assuming this is correct, that means that the 360 is about to overtake that record

SolidTy

It already has :) gears 2 came out on 7th november.

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[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

REALLY??

REALLY!!!!!!???!@#!@#?

Thats it. I quit. F*ck gamespot F*ck YOU ALL

Yeh it's a silly rule.
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so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

REALLY??

REALLY!!!!!!???!@#!@#?

Thats it. I quit. F*ck gamespot F*ck YOU ALL

porky_ownsu

yea...SW is extremely retarded like that...idk why i stay here...i DO like the layout though

but IMO...DLC counts...so shadow complex counts...DEAL WITH IT SW!!!

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Assuming this is correct, that means that the 360 is about to overtake that record

anshul89

It already has :) gears 2 came out on 7th november.

Ah, Touche.

I suppose this record will stop when Halo 3 ODST or Forza 3 come out.

I do wonder if the about the Wii as well, just to know about all three consoles this generation completely, but oh well.

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#15 CanYouDiglt
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Why do so many PS3 fans brag about their games then? Even in a drought the 360 still has a better game library then the PS3. So if the PS3 games are so uber great like some like to act then how with the 360 having a drought still a better library then the PS3?
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#16 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

REALLY??

REALLY!!!!!!???!@#!@#?

Thats it. I quit. F*ck gamespot F*ck YOU ALL

CDUB316

yea...SW is extremely retarded like that...idk why i stay here...i DO like the layout though

but IMO...DLC counts...so shadow complex counts...DEAL WITH IT SW!!!

IF DLC counted, then we would have more games to tabulate, for both XBLA, PSN, and Wiiware/Virtual Console.

Quite Frankly, it's a whole huge problem, not even going into the massive threads about how DLC is critiqued by a differente standard.

Bottomline, it's messy for all consoles.

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#17 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

REALLY??

REALLY!!!!!!???!@#!@#?

Thats it. I quit. F*ck gamespot F*ck YOU ALL

SolidTy

yea...SW is extremely retarded like that...idk why i stay here...i DO like the layout though

but IMO...DLC counts...so shadow complex counts...DEAL WITH IT SW!!!

IF DLC counted, then we would have more games to tabulate, for both XBLA, PSN, and Wiiware/Virtual Console.

Quite Frankly, it's a whole huge problem, not even going into the massive threads about how DLC is critiqued by a differente standard.

Bottomline, it's messy for all consoles.

well idc too much...the fact that shadow complex is better than most full retail games out there...i'm saying it counts

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

yea...SW is extremely retarded like that...idk why i stay here...i DO like the layout though

but IMO...DLC counts...so shadow complex counts...DEAL WITH IT SW!!!

CDUB316

IF DLC counted, then we would have more games to tabulate, for both XBLA, PSN, and Wiiware/Virtual Console.

Quite Frankly, it's a whole huge problem, not even going into the massive threads about how DLC is critiqued by a differente standard.

Bottomline, it's messy for all consoles.

well idc too much...the fact that shadow complex is better than most full retail games out there...i'm saying it counts

You are making an argument for ShC (Shadow Complex) but not realizing you are trying to open Pandora's Box, and all fanboy's would wreak havoc on what little rules we have had for years here.

I own ShC, and it's great, but oh well, that's how the cookie has crumbled for years.

Besides, that would give Sheep and Cows a ton more to argue about on their side.

Besides, the massive vast majority (Actually probably no one) is buying 360's PS3's, PC's, Wii's, for short DLC. Those are tide me overs for the BIG retail releases.

I think also ShC biggest flaw is that owning it for two days, you probably beat it three to four times, but like Braid which I beat in 3-4 hours, it was good fun.

Do any fanboys for any console really need to LEAN ON DLC to meet a standard? I don't think so, even if it hurt the PS3 in 2007, and it hurts the 360 in 2009.

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11/15/2006 to 8/29/2007Stevo_the_gamer
Terrible timing. It was the console's first year.
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#20 anshul89
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so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

porky_ownsu

It doesn't count because it costs only $15. cheaper games have lower standards (duh!)

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Why do so many PS3 fans brag about their games then? Even in a drought the 360 still has a better game library then the PS3. So if the PS3 games are so uber great like some like to act then how with the 360 having a drought still a better library then the PS3?CanYouDiglt

You can certainly lean on the oldest titles if you'd like, that's certainly your prerogative...but the TC asking a question, can't we answer it without getting upset?

If anything, we 360 gamers should be angry at M$ for the 360's 2009 performance.Let's use that anger, if anyone has some, towards something more positive, like emails to our favorite 360 1st party. :)

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The 360 (from Gears 2 until now) unless the Wii had an even bigger drought that I'm not aware of.
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#23 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

anshul89

It doesn't count because it costs only $15. cheaper games have lower standards (duh!)

By that logic, PC, Wii and portable games don't count either. :|

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why do so many PS3 fans brag about their games then? Even in a drought the 360 still has a better game library then the PS3. So if the PS3 games are so uber great like some like to act then how with the 360 having a drought still a better library then the PS3?SolidTy

You can certainly lean on the oldest titles if you'd like, that's certainly your prerogative...but the TC asking a question, can't we answer it without getting upset?

If anything, we 360 gamers should be angry at M$ for the 360's 2009 performance.Let's use that anger, if anyone has some, towards something more positive, like emails to our favorite 360 1st party. :)

Well if anything I just hope we finally stop hearing the excuse of the year head start for the reason why the 360 has a better scoring library. I also feel there is plenty of great games on the way Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell, Forza 3, Halo odst and Reach, and so on. PS3 has gone through a longer drought so I am not sure what the problem is and they did not have as great library to get them through it in fact they never have had as great a library. At least with the drought as PS3 fans like to say the 360 still has the best scoring console library to have while it happens.
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#25 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why do so many PS3 fans brag about their games then? Even in a drought the 360 still has a better game library then the PS3. So if the PS3 games are so uber great like some like to act then how with the 360 having a drought still a better library then the PS3?CanYouDiglt

You can certainly lean on the oldest titles if you'd like, that's certainly your prerogative...but the TC asking a question, can't we answer it without getting upset?

If anything, we 360 gamers should be angry at M$ for the 360's 2009 performance.Let's use that anger, if anyone has some, towards something more positive, like emails to our favorite 360 1st party. :)

Well if anything I just hope we finally stop hearing the excuse of the year head start for the reason why the 360 has a better scoring library. I also feel there is plenty of great games on the way Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell, Forza 3, Halo odst and Reach, and so on. PS3 has gone through a longer drought so I am not sure what the problem is and they did not have as great library to get them through it in fact they never have had as great a library. At least with the drought as PS3 fans like to say the 360 still has the best scoring console library to have while it happens.

ME2, Splinter Cell, Forza, Halo 3 ODST, and Halo Reach are all going to be great games. Great LIST!!!!! :P

The issue is 2009 :

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ME2 = 2010-2011? Bioware is always late, and Bioware's working on Dragon Age before ME2. Dragon Age is now delayed again, so that's going to affect ME2.

Halo Reach = 2010. Natal Launch. Reaching in Halo confirmed, plus it's a double entendre, as Reach was part of the Halo Canon.

Splinter Cell : Con = 2010. Delayed. Again, would have been a great AA excelusive for 2009, but tis not to be.

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So, when looking at 2009, that leaves FORZA 3 and the Halo 3 Expansion, although I already mentioned those. :)

As far as PS3 admittng the 360's library shows that the PS3 fans can play by a set of rules, and most console fans do in SW, save for those in this thread that want to change up the system.

As far as the PS3 going through LONGER Drought, that's what this thread is trying to determine, so far the 360 has the longest drought judging the responses in this thread.

This is just the META GAME of SYSTEM WARS. :)

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why do so many PS3 fans brag about their games then? Even in a drought the 360 still has a better game library then the PS3. So if the PS3 games are so uber great like some like to act then how with the 360 having a drought still a better library then the PS3?CanYouDiglt

You can certainly lean on the oldest titles if you'd like, that's certainly your prerogative...but the TC asking a question, can't we answer it without getting upset?

If anything, we 360 gamers should be angry at M$ for the 360's 2009 performance.Let's use that anger, if anyone has some, towards something more positive, like emails to our favorite 360 1st party. :)

Well if anything I just hope we finally stop hearing the excuse of the year head start for the reason why the 360 has a better scoring library. I also feel there is plenty of great games on the way Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell, Forza 3, Halo odst and Reach, and so on. PS3 has gone through a longer drought so I am not sure what the problem is and they did not have as great library to get them through it in fact they never have had as great a library. At least with the drought as PS3 fans like to say the 360 still has the best scoring console library to have while it happens.

Question by TC was simple, but answering that PS3 had the same problem in 2007 is not the answer.. We all know its true.. Personally the last 360 exclusive I bought was Geow2 and the next ones will be Forza3 & Halo:ODST.. so I say excluding Halo Wars & ninja blade there wasnt much in terms of exclusives on offer for 360 ONLY owners... Luckily there were some great multiplats being released..

Surely 360 has some great titles coming up mostly in 2010 but same can be said for PS3... we know that if a 360 fan will say but we shall soon get Forza3, Halo:ODST, Splinter cell, ME2, Alan Wake & Halo Reach between 2009 - 2010 that will be countered with a PS3 fan who say and we'll get Ratchet & clank, Uncharted2, Demon Souls, WKC, Heavy Rain, GT5, GOW3, MAG, The last Guardian etc etc

So its somehow stupid to say 360 has the superior library cause we just go by SCORES or numbers, both consoles have a great games library and a large variety, so it all comes down to personal tastes in gaming.. And trust me both consoles have so much to offer with none being SUPERIOR..

Do you think a new console buyer will say geez i'll get console X cause it has100AA / AAA titles while console Y has only 85 AA/AAA titles? NO, cause its not like they'll get from day one of their purchase 100 titles.. they just go by PRICE & which exclusive titles they are interested in more and then decide which console is better suited for them..

And right now PS3's games library is on par with 360's and with the latest price cut surely PS3 is now more affordable..

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The 360 hasn't had one since gears 2 and I was just wondering if any console has failed so badly before.

anshul89

yes the ps3 still holds the record like someone said. oops. attempt at ownage backfired?

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Dragon Age is now 2010SolidTy
Is it?
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#29 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

The 360 hasn't had one since gears 2 and I was just wondering if any console has failed so badly before.

Cyberfairy

yes the ps3 still holds the record like someone said. oops. attempt at ownage backfired?

Look at the Dates, the PS3 had the record.

"Had", as in past tense. The 360 apparently bested the PS3 in this regard, this year.

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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

The 360 hasn't had one since gears 2 and I was just wondering if any console has failed so badly before.

Cyberfairy

yes the ps3 still holds the record like someone said. oops. attempt at ownage backfired?

Like someone incorrectly said as you would have known if you'd have bothered to read the whole thread. You've actually pretty much just owned yourself by this post.

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Hopefully things will change for the 360 once Halo ODST and Forza 3 comes out.

Also, the two GTAIV expansions are coming out on a stand alone disc, so that also has a good chance at scoring AAAE.

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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

PBSnipes

It doesn't count because it costs only $15. cheaper games have lower standards (duh!)

By that logic, PC, Wii and portable games don't count either. :|

yup downloadable only games that cost less than $20 on day 1 don't count in that spreadsheet.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Dragon Age is now 2010IronBass
Is it?

Isn't it? unless I've been sleeping under a rock :P
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Amazed how many people forget Banjo Kazooie... what a sham... Came out Nov 12! It demands to be noticed :lol:

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Amazed how many people forget Banjo Kazooie... what a sham... Came out Nov 12! It demands to be noticed :lol:

spinecaton

No, you are exactly right! It is a sham, a sham of a game series that none of us want anything to do with!:P


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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

Amazed how many people forget Banjo Kazooie... what a sham... Came out Nov 12! It demands to be noticed :lol:

SolidTy

No, you are exactly right! It is a sham, a sham of a game series that none of us want anything to do with!:P


bu...bu... I like it :(

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]Dragon Age is now 2010abuabed
Is it?

Isn't it? unless I've been sleeping under a rock :P

Are we talking about Dragon Age Origins?

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Amazed how many people forget Banjo Kazooie... what a sham... Came out Nov 12! It demands to be noticed :lol:

spinecaton

lol ! the PS3 still holds the record then :)

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

Amazed how many people forget Banjo Kazooie... what a sham... Came out Nov 12! It demands to be noticed :lol:

spinecaton

No, you are exactly right! It is a sham, a sham of a game series that none of us want anything to do with!:P


bu...bu... I like it :(


No, you spelled Shame, as Sham, or so I thought... I was just playing on that. In retrospect, if you actually meant Sham, my entire joke is broke.

Dang! You BROKE my JOKE!:lol:

See how I bolded anditalicized Sham in your post? Ah man, my bad. :(

Let me digress by saying, all Rare games are good, and Banjo was no exception, even if not what all the crazy fans wanted.

Sure, it wasn't anything like the N64 masterpieces, but it was good judged on it's own merits.

You're talking to a guy with 1000 in Viva Pinata, even though I know the Viva Pinata was designed and marketed to Girls/Women according to Bill Gates, so I do know my Rare. :)

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#40 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="abuabed"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Is it?IronBass

Isn't it? unless I've been sleeping under a rock :P

Are we talking about Dragon Age Origins?

DA has just been delayed multiple times, but my sources are too early or incorrect, so let's just wait till November, and all should be well by then...hopefully. :)

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#41 h575309
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I havent been too impressed by anything but multiplats this year anyway. So I dont see what the big deal is. None of the systems this year had anything spectacular, except maybe DoW2 on the PC, which was alot of fun. RE5, SF4, Red Faction G, and Shadow Complex have been the best games I have played this year anyway. And I expect Batman AA will probably top the list very soon.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="abuabed"] Isn't it? unless I've been sleeping under a rock :PSolidTy

Are we talking about Dragon Age Origins?

DA has just been delayed multiple times, but my sources are too early or incorrect, so let's just wait till November, and all should be well by then...hopefully. :)

Hopefully..
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it seems like the gamecube had some pretty ridiculous droughts

actually, i haven't found a wii game i wanted to play since Super Mario Galaxy and Prime 3

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Eh, I liked Star ocean the last hope if that counts....

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#46 blingchu55
Member since 2007 • 3098 Posts

I thought there hadn't been many games out lately, looks like it wasn't just in my head

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#47 WINDWAKER1
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It's been a long time, but didn't banjo come out after gears?

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#48 anshul89
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Eh, I liked Star ocean the last hope if that counts....

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#49 Phaze-Two
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Why do so many PS3 fans brag about their games then? Even in a drought the 360 still has a better game library then the PS3. So if the PS3 games are so uber great like some like to act then how with the 360 having a drought still a better library then the PS3?CanYouDiglt
because it came out a year earlier? and if MS isn't careful, that won't help them much anymore.
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#50 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="aero250"][QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

so what you are saying is that because shadow comples is not on a stupid disc is doesnt count, despite its great gameplay and story...

REALLY??

REALLY!!!!!!???!@#!@#?

Thats it. I quit. F*ck gamespot F*ck YOU ALL

Yeh it's a silly rule.

it counts when discussing arcade games specifically. but I do think only using GS's scores is dumb.