Whats with the Wii Hate?

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#51 Metrovania
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I think it's mostly because the graphics suck and there's not enough space to hold all the VC downloads. The games aren't all that exciting either. Given it's still a new system and needs a bit more time for some really interesting games, it's lack of really compelling ones is what's hurting it now at this moment.PikaPichu
Are you telling me SMG and SPM have bad graphics?
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#52 Zaistev_basic
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        I hate it for the fact that it is a cheap gimmick system that is selling because of all the non-gamers.  If wii wins by a long shot in sales(which looks like is going to happen), i have this fear of gaming being ruined.  What would stop sony and ms from doing the same thing the wii has done if they notice the huge profit in it? I dont want that to happen. Gaming as we know it would be gone.

       Even though i happily like my wii i extremely hope that it suffers after next year.

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You're a sad news for a gamer. Just imagine if we are always on the graphic improvement than controls; it's like having a high end PC with keyboards but no mouse. Did you also notice that because consoles put more emphasis on graphics that the price of the consoles have drastically increased to the point that it turned down casuals (look at PS3). Didn't you experience that a console that plays both movies and games on one drive is not a good idea as of the case of Xbox and especially PS2 where the lens got easily burned out. The sad thing that is happening already is when developers are putting more emphasis to graphics rather than gameplay. Graphics can easily done with the right tools, ideas are hard because it takes originality and planning.
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#53 Qanio
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[QUOTE="Qanio"]Do you folks like coffee? haha i love metalocalypse, just thought id tell youTeh_Stevz
I like Folgers myself...

hahah thanks i got a good laugh from that
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#54 Metrovania
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]One word to describe all the hate: Jealousy.Dualshockin

Truthfully,after playing the Ps3,I really cant get jealous of the Wii and its Mario games...

FIne, then don't buy it and don't bash it. As far as I'm concerned Mario 64 > GTA.
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#55 Svarthek
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[QUOTE="Qanio"]Do you folks like coffee? haha i love metalocalypse, just thought id tell youTeh_Stevz
I like Folgers myself...

You both get points!
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#56 Teh_Stevz
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Fanboyism aside,LBP cant be done on the Wii,and honestly,there's no game on Wii that will ever come close to HS visually.
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Visually, obviously. HS might take some work but LBP is very simple as a game.
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#57 Metrovania
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[QUOTE="PikaPichu"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]How come everyones been slow on picking up the sarcasm in my post?-Sir-Poof-

What sarcasm? It seems like factual and true to me. :?

I was trying to make all those facts sound like a no biggy but in all truth thats why the Wii in many ppls eyes its not worth getting.

well for people that buy the Wii (i.e. a lot of people) those facts are "no biggie" as you put it. I guess you overestimated the extent to which people cared.
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#58 Metrovania
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[QUOTE="Binski"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

I dont get it.....

So what if it doesnt have a built in hard drive and who really cares that most of its games look like they can be done on a xbox, Online? who needs it, DVD player? thats so last gen, Mario game #38? Bring it on he never gets old...

It cost 250 to make for a reason whoops 200....ill spend the extra 50 to play with the Wiimote because guess what its all about gameplay!

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You speak the truth my friend........The sheep have been beating their chest way too much lately.

It's their first time in nearly 15 years. Let 'em enjoy it, man.

Not counting, of course, the 20 years of utter dominance in the handheld market of course.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]At $250, people expect the Wii to have amazing HD graphics like the xbox360. its logic!!!!!!11!!1one!!!Dualshockin
Super Mario Galaxy looks too hot.


Compared to good Ps2 games,yes,it does look slightly better in most cases.
But compared to good games on Ps3/360,not at all...

It looks good enough to be put besides R&C and not look silly. It looks better than ANY PS2 or GC games and is on par with any Xbox game technically. There is real evidence of Normal Mapping - something that people didn't think could be done on the Wii.
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#60 HeedleGlavin
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Binski"][QUOTE="wapahala"]*cough* Jealousy *cough*Dualshockin
OF?....online functionality,graphics capabilities,Hi-def movie viewing,Audio fidelity, or the great third party support?

Maybe the new controller? The VC? The sales numbers? The excellent first-party titles?


Whilst I understand your logic,I dont know if it's entirely accurate...
1)Ps3 and 360 both have new controllers,and both can run old games like the Wii can.
2)Sales number wise,4 million isnt that much,considering Dreamcast did 11 million...
3)I like Zelda,but apart from it,there's nothing original on the Wii.

1. The PS3 controller is a PS2 controller without rumble and with a tilt sensor that developers are hardly utilizing. Neither have the functionality of the Wiimote. 2. Try 5+ million in less than 4 months. VGCharts has it at 5.7 million. 3. Nothing original? :| I'm not even going to honor that ridiculous statement with a response.
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#62 air0123
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Difference between GC and Wii, the controls. Both garbage.
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#63 ArisShadows
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Difference between GC and Wii, the controls. Both garbage.air0123
I disagree.
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#64 taker42
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[QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]Nobody made fun of Gamecubre graphics because it did what it could fairly well But a lot of people are making fun of Wii because it is not doing as well as it it should graphically. So this sudden outcry at the Wii visuals is because not in the minds of the people, the graphics really are subpar for many games.

Seriously, I think cows bash Wii because there's no good news at all for the PS3 and they know they can't win arguing against the lemmings, so they just copy/paste the same graphics argument every day to help them sleep. Everybody knows the Wii loses out graphically to PS3 and 360 but saying it can't do ps2 or xbox graphics is just plain fanboyism.
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#66 MrPinktc
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Didn't anyone get the memo? Hating the Wii is the new hating the PS3.DaysAirlines
nah dude PS3 always gets the most hate.
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#67 X360PS3AMD05
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Because they haven't tried it, so they just bash it for its graphics
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#68 Dualshockin
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Difference between GC and Wii, the controls. Both garbage.air0123
Agreed,I found the Wiimote to be interesting for about an hour or so. After that,imo,it just felt like holding a thin glossy remote.....
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#69 renger6002
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]One word to describe all the hate: Jealousy.Dualshockin

Truthfully,after playing the Ps3,I really cant get jealous of the Wii and its Mario games...

after playing Wii AND Ps3, I could see myself being jelous of the wii... good thing I have one :)
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#70 renger6002
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[QUOTE="air0123"]Difference between GC and Wii, the controls. Both garbage.ArisShadows
I disagree.

second that
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#71 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]One word to describe all the hate: Jealousy.renger6002

Truthfully,after playing the Ps3,I really cant get jealous of the Wii and its Mario games...

after playing Wii AND Ps3, I could see myself being jelous of the wii... good thing I have one :)

I understand,though I cant see myself buying a console with (mainly) casual games and no multimedia features,I can still see how some people may want a Wii.
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#72 GanonBuRAP
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One word to describe all the hate: Jealousy.Zhengi
I hate swimming. That must mean im jealous of swimming right..
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Too much to list. See my profile. But, in short: 1. Decline in the complexity of games. 2. Unethical marketing strat aimed to reduce the quality of games and expand the market in one swift motion. 3. Limiting the function of games to little more than childish toys. 4. Excessive use of tired and antiquated first-party titles to ensure consumer loyalty until a new market can be gained. 5. Introducing non-gamers to gaming by reinforcing negative stereotypes that inhibit the progression and development of video games as a respectable form of media. 6. Ignoring the potential and capacity of current-gen hardware.
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#75 Kama151
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do not want
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#76 machitocaliente
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ENVY
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[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]Too much to list. See my profile. But, in short: 1. Decline in the complexity of games. 2. Unethical marketing strat aimed to reduce the quality of games and expand the market in one swift motion. 3. Limiting the function of games to little more than childish toys. 4. Excessive use of tired and antiquated first-party titles to ensure consumer loyalty until a new market can be gained. 5. Introducing non-gamers to gaming by reinforcing negative stereotypes that inhibit the progression and development of video games as a respectable form of media. 6. Ignoring the potential and capacity of current-gen hardware.

Elitist bull****
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#78 Teh_Stevz
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[QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]Nobody made fun of Gamecubre graphics because it did what it could fairly well But a lot of people are making fun of Wii because it is not doing as well as it it should graphically. So this sudden outcry at the Wii visuals is because not in the minds of the people, the graphics really are subpar for many games.

:|... :shock: I... Erm... Agree!?! (I'm agreeing with flamingschmoes2. That can't be right... Right?) :?
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#79 Rhaxdric
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I dont get it.....

So what if it doesnt have a built in hard drive and who really cares that most of its games look like they can be done on a xbox, Online? who needs it, DVD player? thats so last gen, Mario game #38? Bring it on he never gets old...

It cost 250 to make for a reason whoops 200....ill spend the extra 50 to play with the Wiimote because guess what its all about gameplay!

-Sir-Poof-
Sarcasm, very clever...
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#80 lucas_kelly
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So true.
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#81 Pangster007
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ENVY machitocaliente
We all know that PS3 and 360 owners want the Wii 1st party titles on their system deep down, and they just can't admit it :P
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#82 tocool340
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]At $250, people expect the Wii to have amazing HD graphics like the xbox360. its logic!!!!!!11!!1one!!!Dualshockin
Super Mario Galaxy looks too hot.


Compared to good Ps2 games,yes,it does look slightly better in most cases.
But compared to good games on Ps3/360,not at all...

Alright, everytime you comapre Wii to 360 and PS3 graphically, thats credibility points lost and self-ownage is included in the package, as everyone knows it doesn't hold a candle to 360 and PS3 graphically......
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#83 Pulse123
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]One word to describe all the hate: Jealousy.GanonBuRAP
I hate swimming. That must mean im jealous of swimming right..

How can u say it has games for casual gamers only sure there is like 5 games that consist nearly entirely of mini games, but dont go and over look that fact that the majority of the games are not mini games, sure there isnt a massive amount of good content atm, but thats due to the slack third party, i believe that there is good 3rd party coming. Not to mention SSX Blur is probably my favorite of the series and by far the most challenging, and i own them all, fact is u cannot beat using the tilt functionality combined with the analogue stick to carve through the snow it just feels so right, and EA did a nice job with the visuals as well, not the best looking game but the graphics are definitely improving. Not a game for kids very steep learning curve and it pays off because its so much more satisfying knowing that it actually takes some sort of coordination to play a game rather than just mashing buttons constantly.
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#84 Metrovania
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Not jealousy. You're jealous when the thing you make fun of has something you want. What do I want that the Wii has? Ugly graphics? Horrible online? Lack of game releases? Just because Mike Tyson laughs in a little runts face doesnt mean Mike Tyson is "jealous" of the runt. He just loves to laugh. I'm Mike Tysonflamingschmoes2
How about good sales?
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[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]Too much to list. See my profile. But, in short: 1. Decline in the complexity of games. 2. Unethical marketing strat aimed to reduce the quality of games and expand the market in one swift motion. 3. Limiting the function of games to little more than childish toys. 4. Excessive use of tired and antiquated first-party titles to ensure consumer loyalty until a new market can be gained. 5. Introducing non-gamers to gaming by reinforcing negative stereotypes that inhibit the progression and development of video games as a respectable form of media. 6. Ignoring the potential and capacity of current-gen hardware.

All of those points are complete nonsense. I would say the industry was in far bigger trouble when SONY were in charge, and with there current strategy, a SONY-led industry would be a far worse thing than a Nintendo-led industry!
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#86 FoamingPanda
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[QUOTE="Metrovania"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]Too much to list. See my profile. But, in short: 1. Decline in the complexity of games. 2. Unethical marketing strat aimed to reduce the quality of games and expand the market in one swift motion. 3. Limiting the function of games to little more than childish toys. 4. Excessive use of tired and antiquated first-party titles to ensure consumer loyalty until a new market can be gained. 5. Introducing non-gamers to gaming by reinforcing negative stereotypes that inhibit the progression and development of video games as a respectable form of media. 6. Ignoring the potential and capacity of current-gen hardware.

All of those points are complete nonsense. I would say the industry was in far bigger trouble when SONY were in charge, and with there current strategy, a SONY-led industry would be a far worse thing than a Nintendo-led industry!

All of those complaints are either based on the clearly stated mission statement of the Wii, the current projection of games, and 3rd party developer support at the current time. Quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of system wars fanboys thinking in the "my console and me vs. other evil consoles." Can there simply not be an objective consideration of a console itself? Of course there would be major problems if Sony dominated the industry! But these problems would be quite different in nature. And I find it very very hard to envision a more threatening, backward, and sad move by ANY console developer over what Nintendo is attempting to do with the Wii.
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#87 FoamingPanda
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[QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]Not jealousy. You're jealous when the thing you make fun of has something you want. What do I want that the Wii has? Ugly graphics? Horrible online? Lack of game releases? Just because Mike Tyson laughs in a little runts face doesnt mean Mike Tyson is "jealous" of the runt. He just loves to laugh. I'm Mike TysonMetrovania
How about good sales?

Hanson and the Back Street Boys easily out sold some of the most innovative, great, and famous musicans of all time. Sales to do not indicate the quality of a product because consumers are far too easily controlled by mass marketing and ignorance. You don't care that a company offers you an inferior product as long as it sates an immediate desire for the lowest grades of pleasure (especially when video games are concerned).
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#88 Pulse123
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[QUOTE="Metrovania"][QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]Not jealousy. You're jealous when the thing you make fun of has something you want. What do I want that the Wii has? Ugly graphics? Horrible online? Lack of game releases? Just because Mike Tyson laughs in a little runts face doesnt mean Mike Tyson is "jealous" of the runt. He just loves to laugh. I'm Mike TysonFoamingPanda
How about good sales?

Hanson and the Back Street Boys easily out sold some of the most innovative, great, and famous musicans of all time. Sales to do not indicate the quality of a product because consumers are far too easily controlled by mass marketing and ignorance. You don't care that a company offers you an inferior product as long as it sates an immediate desire for the lowest grades of pleasure (especially when video games are concerned).

ur very angry inside arent u, if u hate the industry then go have a cry else where
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#89 chrisdojo
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One word to describe all the hate: Jealousy.Zhengi
buh buh teh sixaxiz!!!!!!!!111
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#90 Shadow_op
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One word to describe all the hate: Jealousy.Zhengi
actually envy....jealousy is of another person...
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[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="Metrovania"][QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]Not jealousy. You're jealous when the thing you make fun of has something you want. What do I want that the Wii has? Ugly graphics? Horrible online? Lack of game releases? Just because Mike Tyson laughs in a little runts face doesnt mean Mike Tyson is "jealous" of the runt. He just loves to laugh. I'm Mike TysonPulse123
How about good sales?

Hanson and the Back Street Boys easily out sold some of the most innovative, great, and famous musicans of all time. Sales to do not indicate the quality of a product because consumers are far too easily controlled by mass marketing and ignorance. You don't care that a company offers you an inferior product as long as it sates an immediate desire for the lowest grades of pleasure (especially when video games are concerned).

ur very angry inside arent u, if u hate the industry then go have a cry else where

Sorry. I'm a fomaing panda. We usually maw things that upset us. Unfortunately, I can't maw an abstract concept like screwed up consumer demand. I can only hope to vent my frustration and hope people demand better products as they get older (or stop demanding products all together).
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#92 -Sir-Poof-
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[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]ENVY Pangster007
We all know that PS3 and 360 owners want the Wii 1st party titles on their system deep down, and they just can't admit it :P

:| Just keep telling ur self that.

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#93 Teh_kenTa
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We all know we have consoles for gaming. Wii promised a new way to play games so that it would be more influential and possibly attract a greater crowd. It has done both, but, it seems that if they want to compete they actually have to be competing. The Nintendo fanbase is nothing but casuals now. Not that is a bad thing though, the ps2 was a "casual" system and look at its fanbase. Too bad the same thing can't be said about the ps3 :lol: