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How do you feel when the person next to you copies off your test?
Do you cover your answers with your arm
Or do you pretend you don't see and let them do it?
BigDizz
Sony has taken (and is taking) a few things from its competitors, sure, but what's wrong with that? They take the features and improve upon them.
To be honest, it just seems like people are realizing Sony is going to steal its competitors online, make it better, for free, and we all know what kind of effect that will have on consumers. It also helps justify the PS3's price.
Anyway, my point was there is nothing wrong with Sony taking achievements and Mii's because both features are good so what's the problem with adding them to the already strong list of features for the PS3?
Am I insane to think that it's OK for companies to copy from one another? They all do it, but it's not like they've all stopped being original.
Anyway, what do you guys think?
the-very-best
From a business point of view, its normal. However, when i look at it, they keep copying ideas, it just makes you think 'Why cant this company think of anything original, thats smart, by itself'. they just cant think of stuff by themselves thats original, thats why i find it annoying.Haziqonfire
hmmm. You say it as if Sony hasn't done anything for the Gameing industry.:?
It'd be different, but Sony tends to "bash" the competition's "gimmick" and then later and usually within the very same generation. Copy that EXACT same feature! But they won't acknowledge that they copied someone, oh and for improving. Tell me how six axis tilt is an improvement over the Wiimote. Tell me.Mikazukinoyaiba
it is an improvement to the traditional controller.
only flaw it has as of now is, no rumble.
[QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.
RAZZY_B
umm Spiderman the movie = sony pictures.
so what it's still unoriginal. Just because they own it doesn't mean it's original.It doesn't bother me at all that Sony "copied" from anyone. It's what businesses do and need to do to remain competitive with their rivals. It's just another example of why competition is a good thing. For example, if Xbox and Xbox Live didn't exsist, Sony wouldn't have even tried with PSN to deliver decent online because they wouldn't have to...Baird-06
100% agree.
Kudos
Well if it becomes a standard for consoles(ie Ananlog stick,gamepad) its okay, but if its something that is innovative and makes a console unique..well thats copying.Demonic_Eyes133
Those things were unique at first but now they are standards, go back to school.
[QUOTE="RAZZY_B"][QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.
linkhero1
umm Spiderman the movie = sony pictures.
so what it's still unoriginal. Just because they own it doesn't mean it's original.okay so technically your saying Sony copied there own font?
[QUOTE="linkhero1"][QUOTE="RAZZY_B"][QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.
RAZZY_B
umm Spiderman the movie = sony pictures.
so what it's still unoriginal. Just because they own it doesn't mean it's original.okay so technically your saying Sony copied there own font?
It has nothing to do with copying. I'm just saying they could have made a new font just for PS3 rather than using the Spiderman font.[QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.Correct me if I'm wrong but the Eye Toy was pretty original... Sort of but I remember playing some games with a computer webcam but they were pretty crappy games.Baird-06
[QUOTE="linkhero1"][QUOTE="RAZZY_B"][QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.
RAZZY_B
umm Spiderman the movie = sony pictures.
so what it's still unoriginal. Just because they own it doesn't mean it's original.okay so technically your saying Sony copied there own font?
Sony copys themselves now, how low will they go? :roll:
[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]From a business point of view, its normal. However, when i look at it, they keep copying ideas, it just makes you think 'Why cant this company think of anything original, thats smart, by itself'. they just cant think of stuff by themselves thats original, thats why i find it annoying.RAZZY_B
hmmm. You say it as if Sony hasn't done anything for the Gameing industry.:?
no im saying its just that they havent done anything really original by themselves.. besides the eyetoy, which sucked..[QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.the-very-best
exactly my point.
Everyone adopts other peoples/companies ideas. Just cuz they do it doesnt nessicarily mean a bad thing
[QUOTE="Baird-06"][QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.Correct me if I'm wrong but the Eye Toy was pretty original... Sort of but I remember playing some games with a computer webcam but they were pretty crappy games.linkhero1
The the Wiimote and Live are only "sort of" original", too. I remember using all that before they came out with it on their consoles.
It has nothing to do with copying. I'm just saying they could have made a new font just for PS3 rather than using the Spiderman font.linkhero1
[QUOTE="RAZZY_B"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]From a business point of view, its normal. However, when i look at it, they keep copying ideas, it just makes you think 'Why cant this company think of anything original, thats smart, by itself'. they just cant think of stuff by themselves thats original, thats why i find it annoying.Haziqonfire
hmmm. You say it as if Sony hasn't done anything for the Gameing industry.:?
no im saying its just that they havent done anything really original by themselves.. besides the eyetoy, which sucked..yea it sucked in a way, but atleast it was inovative.
Because it's a kick in the balls to who came up with the original idea -it's dirty business. Remember what happened when Sony was forced to not steal? we ended up with a ridiculous looking boomerang controller. Next thing you know they re-use the exact same controller from last gen but copy Nintendo's motion sensing.
 Nintendo brings innovative controls to the table
Microsoft brings an excellent online service to the table
Sony brings nothing new to the table so they steal.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Eye Toy was pretty original... Sort of but I remember playing some games with a computer webcam but they were pretty crappy games.[QUOTE="linkhero1"][QUOTE="Baird-06"][QUOTE="pizzachicken20"]Honestly, what has Sony made that IS original? Look, even the font they used for the PS3 is unoriginal.
OXIIIIXO
The the Wiimote and Live are only "sort of" original", too. I remember using all that before they came out with it on their consoles.
Well true since I've used pointers for pc before but I never said they were original.[QUOTE="linkhero1"] It has nothing to do with copying. I'm just saying they could have made a new font just for PS3 rather than using the Spiderman font.the-very-best
Er.. I don't care if it is an improvement of their original controller. The point is that the original post itself says that sony "improves" on the very thing they copy. the Six Axis is in no way, an improvement of the Wiimote.it is an improvement to the traditional controller. only flaw it has as of now is, no rumble
There is no justification for arrogance.And do you expect Sony to show weakness (in business that's not good) and say "Jeez, we were wrong so we're adding the feature now. MS/Nintendo were right all along".
I mean, geez.. it is as if Sony is INCAPABLE of doing anything on their own and just decide to wait till someone else gets a great idea and then copy after it.
Sure, copying is part of business. But so is also thinking up your own ideas and taking your own risks.
Honestly, if Sony was the only company in the market truly the game industry will become stagnant and lose originality.
Its wrong beucase thats all sony does. you see, Xbox 360 has the best online, wii has the best motion sensing. Thats what makes them unique. Sony just takes some of there ideas and half ass it. They master nothing. They put a tacked on motion sensing and put a crap online. There console is not unique, becuase they copy. And dont tell me its unique becusae they have bluray becuase that has nothing to do with the gameing side of it.
4seal
thats what people said, when Sony used DVD.
Its wrong beucase thats all sony does. you see, Xbox 360 has the best online, wii has the best motion sensing. Thats what makes them unique. Sony just takes some of there ideas and half ass it. They master nothing. They put a tacked on motion sensing and put a crap online. There console is not unique, becuase they copy. And dont tell me its unique becusae they have bluray becuase that has nothing to do with the gameing side of it.
4seal
Maybe if they get rumble back it will atleast be a normal controller.
Anyways, the PSN is not gonna stay the same, I'm sure we will here more about this next week at the GDC.
If it's standard it is ok but if only one other company is using it and the company copying tries to claim it as there own and claims they invented it first then it is copying.
Anyway, my point was there is nothing wrong with Sony taking achievements and Mii's because both features are goodthe-very-bestI wish I could turn back time to like 2 weeks ago and ask you "Don't you wish the PS3 had Mii's like the Wii does?", I bet your response would have been like "Hell no, that's for little kids and non-gamers, hardcore PS3 gamers don't want some stupid mii's," or something like that.
I guess this is all to do with Sony copying from M$ and nitendo stuff.
Well, if it infringes on copyright or patents then they will get sued.
If not then either the competitor is too stupid not to copyright or patent it, or that the feature is so common that they cannot apply for a patent.
What I am saying is that, if Cony copied something original I am sued they would be sued, same goes for Nintendo and M$.
azrealhk
[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Anyway, my point was there is nothing wrong with Sony taking achievements and Mii's because both features are goodZerostatic0I wish I could turn back time to like 2 weeks ago and ask you "Don't you wish the PS3 had Mii's like the Wii does?", I bet your response would have been like "Hell no, that's for little kids and non-gamers, hardcore PS3 gamers don't want some stupid mii's," or something like that.
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