When a review doesnt meet your expectations, doesnt mean they r bias

This applies to any game that gets a review score that falls below what you expect.

"______ got 4.5 (for SW stickie purposes, this is Lair im talking about), that site is bias against the *insert console*".

Its not bias if there were legitimate reasons that deserved what it got. You expect reviewers to be "nice" just because a certain unamed console is lacking good exclusives?

Besdies, if you like it, play it. You shouldnt feel insecure or imasculated because your buying a flopped game. If you need a reviewer to justify your purchase that bad, then something is wrong. I bought Mass Effect even though it flopped and I have 0 regrets.

This applies to any game that gets a review score that falls below what you expect.

"______ got 4.5 (for SW stickie purposes, this is Lair im talking about), that site is bias against the *insert console*".

Its not bias if there were legitimate reasons that deserved what it got. You expect reviewers to be "nice" just because a certain unamed console is lacking good exclusives?

Besdies, if you like it, play it. You shouldnt feel insecure or imasculated because your buying a flopped game. If you need a reviewer to justify your purchase that bad, then something is wrong. I bought Mass Effect even though it flopped and I have 0 regrets.

-GhostMLD-

Reviews are always biased. Unwarranted bias, however, is evident when claims are made that are plainly false. I don't know if this applies to Haze or whatnot, but it does apply to games like Boom Blox, which was maligned by GameSpot for, just as an example, poor story and characters. :?

Reviews are always biased. Unwarranted bias, however, is evident when claims are made that are plainly false. I don't know if this applies to Haze or whatnot, but it does apply to games like Boom Blox, which was maligned by GameSpot for, just as an example, poor story and characters. :?

mjarantilla

Yes it does, see, I'm the most self-absorbed person in the universe and if something does not go exactly the way I think it should then it's obvious that I'm not the one to blame and there are evil forces at work trying to make me look stupid.

But enough about me let's talk about me for awhile.

This applies to any game that gets a review score that falls below what you expect.

"______ got 4.5 (for SW stickie purposes, this is Lair im talking about), that site is bias against the *insert console*".

Its not bias if there were legitimate reasons that deserved what it got. You expect reviewers to be "nice" just because a certain unamed console is lacking good exclusives?

Besdies, if you like it, play it. You shouldnt feel insecure or imasculated because your buying a flopped game. If you need a reviewer to justify your purchase that bad, then something is wrong. I bought Mass Effect even though it flopped and I have 0 regrets.

-GhostMLD-

Ghost, you're just saying that because it's a PS3 game that flopped. If it was a 360 game, you'd probably be saying the same thing the irrational cows are. I dont really think GS or IGN is biased by any means, especially IGN, but I dont think you of all people can step in and be the voice of reason for people to listen to, no offence.

I think bias is the wrong terminology. I can prove that every reviewer has some sort of agenda to make.However, I think I know what you're asking. I think reviewers are coaxed into the system they are in. For instance, Gamespot is know to be tough on games; therefore, the reviewer on Gamespot has to be tough.

Gamers don't care about reviews, just the reviews of the games they like! Therefore, it is more often than not that reviewers are scrutinized when a review isn't up to par with the gamer's opinion. No doubt that the gamer is bias, but ironically he calls out bias in a negative sense to the reviewer.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

This applies to any game that gets a review score that falls below what you expect.

"______ got 4.5 (for SW stickie purposes, this is Lair im talking about), that site is bias against the *insert console*".

Its not bias if there were legitimate reasons that deserved what it got. You expect reviewers to be "nice" just because a certain unamed console is lacking good exclusives?

Besdies, if you like it, play it. You shouldnt feel insecure or imasculated because your buying a flopped game. If you need a reviewer to justify your purchase that bad, then something is wrong. I bought Mass Effect even though it flopped and I have 0 regrets.

carljohnson3456

Ghost, you're just saying that because it's a PS3 game that flopped. If it was a 360 game, you'd probably be saying the same thing the irrational cows are. I dont really think GS or IGN is biased by any means, especially IGN, but I dont think you of all people can step in and be the voice of reason for people to listen to, no offence.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

This applies to any game that gets a review score that falls below what you expect.

"______ got 4.5 (for SW stickie purposes, this is Lair im talking about), that site is bias against the *insert console*".

Its not bias if there were legitimate reasons that deserved what it got. You expect reviewers to be "nice" just because a certain unamed console is lacking good exclusives?

Besdies, if you like it, play it. You shouldnt feel insecure or imasculated because your buying a flopped game. If you need a reviewer to justify your purchase that bad, then something is wrong. I bought Mass Effect even though it flopped and I have 0 regrets.

mjarantilla

Reviews are always biased. Unwarranted bias, however, is evident when claims are made that are plainly false. I don't know if this applies to Haze or whatnot, but it does apply to games like Boom Blox, which was maligned by GameSpot for, just as an example, poor story and characters. :?

All gamers need to stop this hyper sensitivity to reviews and previews.

The vast majority of wanna be game critics on these forums have no idea how to separate what they like from critical merit. It is obnoxious to see people blog about a game two days before it comes out and then a week later read their garbage that states the same thing they said before they even played the game.

I don't know if its just noisy teens and early 20 somethings that seem to be clueless as to the meaning of bias, but regardless its stupid. But its not even a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Its the pot calling the kitchen sink black, witch its not.

Not to mention griping over half points much less .1 type of review scores.

Gamespot, and every other game site that uses numerical scores, need to stop.

But this tin foil hat crap is the worst thing in gaming today. Far, far worse then even fanboy crap. But often the two go hand in hand.

Reviews are always biased. Unwarranted bias, however, is evident when claims are made that are plainly false. I don't know if this applies to Haze or whatnot, but it does apply to games like Boom Blox, which was maligned by GameSpot for, just as an example, poor story and characters. :? mjarantilla

Perhaps I'm missing something, but how can you put a positive or negative truth value on the story and characters? Isn't it still a matter of opinion? I mean, it could very well be a dumb criticism, but I don't know that it can be seen as true or false.

I think this is why 1up uses alphabetical scores; I find them a lot more trustworthy.

For most reviews, I don't feel like the reviewer has taken their time in exploring the game fully, or even finishing it. I don't think 1 page can sum up an entire game.

I think before one starts claiming bias first they have to establish a motive. Simply claiming bias because of a low score just doesn't work.

So before claiming bias, one must ask these kind of questions:

Is there any reason this reviewer might be biased against my system? etc. etc.

Bias is what all reviews are based off of. All reviews are are professional opinions on a game. The review looks at the experience of games they have played in the past, compare it to games now, and think how this game will stand in the future. These things are all biases because they are things normal people wouldn't think of when writing a review. They don't have the experience, the professional bias. And certain people just don't like certain games. I don't like point and click adventures, so I would probably give a game like that a bad score. Someone reading my review may have seen my other work and know what I like/dislike. I would also outline why I didn't like it, even if it was seemingly "unwarranted." I just don't like them. That's my opinion. That's my review. That's my bias. All reviews are bias. If they weren't they wouldn't be reviews.coreygames

True, but I think when fanboys claim bias, they see malicious bias, as if the reviewer is out to get their console.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]Reviews are always biased. Unwarranted bias, however, is evident when claims are made that are plainly false. I don't know if this applies to Haze or whatnot, but it does apply to games like Boom Blox, which was maligned by GameSpot for, just as an example, poor story and characters. :? Tragic_Kingdom7

Perhaps I'm missing something, but how can you put a positive or negative truth value on the story and characters? Isn't it still a matter of opinion? I mean, it could very well be a dumb criticism, but I don't know that it can be seen as true or false.

Would you say that Tetris has a poor story and characters?

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]Reviews are always biased. Unwarranted bias, however, is evident when claims are made that are plainly false. I don't know if this applies to Haze or whatnot, but it does apply to games like Boom Blox, which was maligned by GameSpot for, just as an example, poor story and characters. :? Tragic_Kingdom7

Perhaps I'm missing something, but how can you put a positive or negative truth value on the story and characters? Isn't it still a matter of opinion? I mean, it could very well be a dumb criticism, but I don't know that it can be seen as true or false.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

This applies to any game that gets a review score that falls below what you expect.

"______ got 4.5 (for SW stickie purposes, this is Lair im talking about), that site is bias against the *insert console*".

Its not bias if there were legitimate reasons that deserved what it got. You expect reviewers to be "nice" just because a certain unamed console is lacking good exclusives?

Besdies, if you like it, play it. You shouldnt feel insecure or imasculated because your buying a flopped game. If you need a reviewer to justify your purchase that bad, then something is wrong. I bought Mass Effect even though it flopped and I have 0 regrets.

blue_hazy_basic

Ghost, you're just saying that because it's a PS3 game that flopped. If it was a 360 game, you'd probably be saying the same thing the irrational cows are. I dont really think GS or IGN is biased by any means, especially IGN, but I dont think you of all people can step in and be the voice of reason for people to listen to, no offence.

That's why I said irrational cows.

Would you say that Tetris has a poor story and characters?mjarantilla

Tetris doesn't have characters or a story. Does the Boom Blox? In any shape or form?