When Is Hard Too Hard?

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#1 xTHExJUICEx
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I liketo have achallenge in my games but theres a point were it becomes more of a chore then fun. So what games out there can you think of that you just didnt even bother trying to finish due to it being too hard?
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I liketo have achallenge in my games but theres a point were it becomes more of a chore then fun. So what games out there can you think of that you just didnt even bother trying to finish due to it being too hard?xTHExJUICEx

I finished it on normal...but on extreme?no,yes Shadow of Rome I'm talking about you...
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When you can see it through a pair of jeans.
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Kid Icarus! 'nuff said.
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#6 xTHExJUICEx
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When you can see it through a pair of jeans.Nickman71

LOL O man some of you guys are crazy.

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#7 MagnuzGuerra
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The problem isn't the difficult, but the game. A hard, yet great game will make you keep trying, even if you can't get to the end in the first or second try. But now, with all those mainstream "hardcore" games so easy, gamers are too lazy to get really good in a game.
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When you can see it through a pair of jeans.Nickman71

ROFL

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Recent example...

Halo 3, going solo on legendary in the 8th level (Cortana). I was doing more for the sake to prove to myself I could, I was NOT having fun. The design of the level sucks, and at that difficulty mixed in it loses a lot of it "fun" factor which is why I play to begin with.

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#10 adastos
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Xenosaga 2 every fight was about as hard as a boss fight and boss fights were more like "Yeah you are going to do this fight at least 10 times before you get us to half health"
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#11 sexy_chimp
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As hard as a priest on a playground is too hard. (Yes I got that from Maddox, get over it)
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#12 naval
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When you can see it through a pair of jeans.Nickman71

lol haa haa :lol: :lol:

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#13 Frostbite24
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Hard is too hard when it is just difficult for difficulty's sake. If it doesn't somehow keep it interesting and fun then it is just a joke.
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#14 Hitamaru-homia
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Go play Shinobi for ps2,it's fun but too hard. Also play DMC3
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F-ZERO GX.
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#16 Lto_thaG
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Go play Shinobi for ps2,it's fun but too hard. Also play DMC3Hitamaru-homia

Aah yes...shinobi,I never finished it...god,the final boss is hard :x
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#17 -Tretiak
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Hard is too hard when it is just difficult for difficulty's sake. If it doesn't somehow keep it interesting and fun then it is just a joke.Frostbite24

Completely agreed.

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When you can see it through a pair of jeans.Nickman71

I lol'd and you pretty much summed up every day for me in highschool.

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Contra Hard Corps.
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Gran Turismo licenses all for Gold.... its almost frustratingly impossible. I really love beating my own records over and over. Frustration somehow makes a game good for me. Soit can never get hard enough for me:P
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[QUOTE="Nickman71"]When you can see it through a pair of jeans.hellfire9988

I lol'd and you pretty much summed up every day for me in highschool.

uhhsoundslikeawierdhighschool

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#22 XenoNinja
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E.T for Atari is extremely hard. I've been stuck in the same spot since 1982.
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#23 Khnemu23
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Super Mario 64.

119 stars. /thread

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Recent example...

Halo 3, going solo on legendary in the 8th level (Cortana). I was doing more for the sake to prove to myself I could, I was NOT having fun. The design of the level sucks, and at that difficulty mixed in it loses a lot of it "fun" factor which is why I play to begin with.

-RPGamer-

For me its Halo on legendary (have yet to play Halo 3). Me and my friend would jam on it together after work and even with the both of us it was basically suicide. Took us over an hour to get past the first level on the pillar of autumn.

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#25 -Tretiak
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Super Mario 64.

119 stars. /thread

Khnemu23

Nah. Getting 120 stars in Mario 64 wasn't very tough, it was just lengthy. The main thing was that it was still fun despite the work.

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#26 PBSnipes
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When the game goes out of its way to be hard. For example a good type of hard is Ninja Gaiden. I couldn't get past the second level (I rented it), but I knew that was because I sucked at the game, not because the game was too hard. Also you can look at the Forza racing series. On the hardest settings (no assists, hard AI, manual tranny) the game is very challenging, but its rewarding when you win. A bad type of hard would be the aforementioned "Cortana" level of Halo 3, where the game is designed to be hard simply by throwing an obscene number of enemies at you. Its like the Hidden Cow Level from Diablo 2, only without the funny.
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#27 legend26
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when u throw the controller on the floor and it bounces back and hits u in the face...
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#28 Khnemu23
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[QUOTE="Khnemu23"]

Super Mario 64.

119 stars. /thread

-Tretiak

Nah. Getting 120 stars in Mario 64 wasn't very tough, it was just lengthy. The main thing was that it was still fun despite the work.

It wasn't tough for me to get the first 119 stars (most were almost too easy). However, both the clock and rainbow levels sucked the fun out of the game for me. The last star I need is the 100 coin star for the rainbow ride. As I said, 119 are easy and fun stars. That last is devoid of all enjoyability due to the unnessary difficulty.

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F-ZERO GX.m_machine024

Seconded. I can't beat the 7th story mission (atleast not without like, 10 hours of trying)

Also I've been downloading old games onto my Wii and man those are hard. Metriod, R-Type III, the original zelda. Now those games are HARD. I would hate have those be the best games around because they just require so much time to get good at.

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E.T for Atari is extremely hard. I've been stuck in the same spot since 1982.XenoNinja

Haha, I hear that!

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I liketo have achallenge in my games but theres a point were it becomes more of a chore then fun. So what games out there can you think of that you just didnt even bother trying to finish due to it being too hard?xTHExJUICEx

farcry on relistic, one or 2 shots are your dead

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I liketo have achallenge in my games but theres a point were it becomes more of a chore then fun. So what games out there can you think of that you just didnt even bother trying to finish due to it being too hard?xTHExJUICEx

DoA 4,but I went back after a week from not playing it....stupid boss haxs!!

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#33 Ballroompirate
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when u throw the controller on the floor and it bounces back and hits u in the face...legend26

OT but Yea..one time I was playing champions of Norrath and I didnt save for almost 4 hours into the game and BAM it gave me a disc read error...so I took the game out and yelled "I'll give you disc read error" and picked up the first thing I saw which was one of my old remotes to my old tv and proceeded to beat the hell out of the disc.

The crappy part was my dog was rite next me and he got so scared he went #2 on the floor.That was a very bad day.

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#34 Guitartod
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Recent example...

Halo 3, going solo on legendary in the 8th level (Cortana). I was doing more for the sake to prove to myself I could, I was NOT having fun. The design of the level sucks, and at that difficulty mixed in it loses a lot of it "fun" factor which is why I play to begin with.

-RPGamer-

agreed cortana is the worst level design in the history of gaming

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#35 c_smithii
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I liketo have achallenge in my games but theres a point were it becomes more of a chore then fun. So what games out there can you think of that you just didnt even bother trying to finish due to it being too hard?xTHExJUICEx

Good thread. A few games that come to mind. I didn't like the first boss in Tomb Raider Legend, he played to cheap throwing fireballs at every angleand was really difficult to beat as he would run away after shooting a series of fire at you. After working up a sweat for two hours on the guy and cussing the game out and its creators I finally beaten him.

Eternal Champions for Genesis. i don't play this fighter much anymore but I still think the way this game was setup was flawed. It offered no character selection after losing. If you made progress along the way in the game and lost you were knocked down two fighter down to the fighter you beaten before, and the difficulty of the was hard compared to its Sega CD sequal that corrected all those flaws.

I know i'm forgetting more games that I played that I felt were too hard, but there's quite a lot of games out like that, good thread topic.

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#36 -D3MO-
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Halo 3 on Legendary collecting the skulls is a chore.

Would insert the penny-arcade comic strip...but...don't feel like finding it

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Gran Turismo licenses all for Gold.... its almost frustratingly impossible. I really love beating my own records over and over. Frustration somehow makes a game good for me. Soit can never get hard enough for me:PPullTheTricker

I've done it.... it wasn't that hard

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#38 Veterngamer
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Recent example...

Halo 3, going solo on legendary in the 8th level (Cortana). I was doing more for the sake to prove to myself I could, I was NOT having fun. The design of the level sucks, and at that difficulty mixed in it loses a lot of it "fun" factor which is why I play to begin with.

Guitartod

agreed cortana is the worst level design in the history of gaming

wow over exaggeration FTL. But yes its poorly designed.... It was those morphing/moving turrets that made it annoying for me. Otherwise I'd be okay with the lvl, personally.

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Ridge Racer V for PS2
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[QUOTE="legend26"]when u throw the controller on the floor and it bounces back and hits u in the face...Ballroompirate

OT but Yea..one time I was playing champions of Norrath and I didnt save for almost 4 hours into the game and BAM it gave me a disc read error...so I took the game out and yelled "I'll give you disc read error" and picked up the first thing I saw which was one of my old remotes to my old tv and proceeded to beat the hell out of the disc.

The crappy part was my dog was rite next me and he got so scared he went #2 on the floor.That was a very bad day.

good stuff.... wish you had it recorded.... thatd be a great Youtube flick.

"CURSE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU A DISC READ ERROR" *SMASH CRASH BANG*.... ah... classic.

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[QUOTE="Nickman71"]When you can see it through a pair of jeans.1vgfan

ROFL

:lol:

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#42 Koba123
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I have only encountered 2 HARD hard things in games, and ive played alot of games.

Number 1: Nightmare for the third time in Dante must die mode ( DMC1)
Number2: Vergil 3 on DMD mode (Dmc3)

And no more!
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#43 bigguns
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Battle toads on the super Nintendo, my god that game was sent from the devil him self. its taken me 6 years of on and off to even get up to the fourth level ' not like every day but like once or twice every 5 month's. when i was a kid i thought this game was the **** , but once u got up to the 3rd level kiss your arse goodbye. No kid can beat that level let alone an adult. if anyone has played this game they have felt my pain.
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#44 mingo123
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racing games on hard are very frustrating
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Ninja Gaiden or SMT Nocturn.
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Super Mario 64.

119 stars. /thread

Khnemu23

i got 150 stars at least 5 times in the ds version. and i beat the main game (final boss defeated, 80 stars) in 3 and a half hours. mario 64 is hard at first but then after that it gets pretty easy, im currently on my 10th run.

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#47 Lab392
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when u throw the controller on the floor and it bounces back and hits u in the face...legend26

Dat'z SIXAXIS FOR YA, B****!!!!

:P i kid

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The last three levels of Starcraft: Brood War.I was able to play through all the other missions,and a lot of them were difficult,but the last three ratchet up the difficult to insanity,and I have yet to beat them.

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#49 mingo123
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what really sucks is when you are winning a hard race in forza 2 and you slightly go off track and the race is endurance race with 30+ laps and you are in final 5 laps then you lose.....or when you get killed too much in FPS online multiplayer, that makes me ake out battery from my controller and throw it away...yeah its tempting to throw ur controller as well in that situation but you gotta control lol

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#50 Dahaka-UK
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Games have gotten easier and easier over the years, so where does the need to complain about them being hard come from? Any easier and they shouldn't be called games at all..