When is MS gonna stop ****** around and just buy Ninty and Sony?

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#51 ATrillionaire
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="killaj2786"]

Yet it makes 100x more money than Sony does... does the words biggest company in the world mean anything to u....

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Microsoft isn't the biggest company in the world.

Which is? And what about the biggest company with business in electronics or computing?

Exxon Mobil is the largest and it's not even close. Exxon Mobil's market value is $425 Billion. Microsoft's market value is $274 Billion. Not even close. As far as biggest electronics that would be General Electric with $368 Billion.

You are wrong. Walmart is the world's biggest corporation. Exxon Mobil is the most profitable corporation. Just like Sony dwarfs Microsoft in assets/revenue, Microsoft dwarfs Sony in net profit.

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#52 ReverieDLM
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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="killaj2786"]

Yet it makes 100x more money than Sony does... does the words biggest company in the world mean anything to u....

ATrillionaire

Microsoft isn't the biggest company in the world.

Which is? And what about the biggest company with business in electronics or computing?

Exxon Mobil is the largest and it's not even close. Exxon Mobil's market value is $425 Billion. Microsoft's market value is $274 Billion. Not even close. As far as biggest electronics that would be General Electric with $368 Billion.

You are wrong. Walmart is the world's biggest corporation. Exxon Mobil is the most profitable corporation. Just like Sony dwarfs Microsoft in assets/revenue, Microsoft dwarfs Sony in net profit.

Actually, he's right. Walmart (WMT) has a market cap of just a bit over $200 billion. Smaller than Microsoft, in fact.

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#53 ATrillionaire
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[QUOTE="ATrillionaire"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="killaj2786"]

Yet it makes 100x more money than Sony does... does the words biggest company in the world mean anything to u....

ReverieDLM

Microsoft isn't the biggest company in the world.

Which is? And what about the biggest company with business in electronics or computing?

Exxon Mobil is the largest and it's not even close. Exxon Mobil's market value is $425 Billion. Microsoft's market value is $274 Billion. Not even close. As far as biggest electronics that would be General Electric with $368 Billion.

You are wrong. Walmart is the world's biggest corporation. Exxon Mobil is the most profitable corporation. Just like Sony dwarfs Microsoft in assets/revenue, Microsoft dwarfs Sony in net profit.

Actually, he's right. Walmart (WMT) has a market cap of just a bit over $200 billion. Smaller than Microsoft, in fact.

He's wrong! I really wish you people would do some research.

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http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/
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#55 Sparty_basic
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For hostile takover discussions, keep in mind that even if Sony does make 70 billion in revenue, MS if more profitable since you can't forget to subtract the revenues from the expenses. Sony's profit margin is far far smaller than MS.

Oh, and it will never happen.

Zounds!

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Sony is bigger than MS. Sony has more facilities, more staff, more products, more revenue, more physical capital than MS. Think abuout how much physical product Sony produces: three different Playstations at full scale, digital cameras, telephones, televisions, stereo systems, laptops. They are members of a high-def movie format alliance, the blu-ray association. They are business partners with IBM and Toshiba in regards to their Cell Processor, which is used in medical technology. Sony is firmly rooted in worldwide economics.It cannot be bought by a smaller business, which makes operating systems, and produces fewer physical products: two different Xboxs, some first party computer peripherals and accesories. Mordred19

MS has a partial monopoly on the OS industry. Don't give me that Apple crap.

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#57 ReverieDLM
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http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/ATrillionaire

This article is ranking corporations based on Revenue, not market cap. Revenue is immaterial to this discussion. In fact, they're pretty much meaningless in general. Of all of that revenue, only $11B was actually profit. Exxon meanwhile had almost $40B in profit (while also having double the market cap of Walmart).

Actually, this list is kind of stupid when you think about it.

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#58 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]Sony is bigger than MS. Sony has more facilities, more staff, more products, more revenue, more physical capital than MS. Think abuout how much physical product Sony produces: three different Playstations at full scale, digital cameras, telephones, televisions, stereo systems, laptops. They are members of a high-def movie format alliance, the blu-ray association. They are business partners with IBM and Toshiba in regards to their Cell Processor, which is used in medical technology. Sony is firmly rooted in worldwide economics.It cannot be bought by a smaller business, which makes operating systems, and produces fewer physical products: two different Xboxs, some first party computer peripherals and accesories. FlamingFlamingo

MS has a partial monopoly on the OS industry. Don't give me that Apple crap.

I am perfectly aware of their monopoly. But everyone is talking about it being more profitable. Whatever, they still cannot buy Sony.

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#59 frodnekcod
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And Complete this Mutha ******!!! :o

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M$ tried to buy ninty during gamecube days, and ninty president told them to suck his balls

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#60 gameruk2010
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Realily Check for Lemming who think M$ is bigger company then Sony

M$'s global annual revenue= $44.28 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

Sony's global annual revenue = $68.39 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony

I know you probably think " Duh, its wikipedia...it could be written by anyone" but it has evidence to back up the figures. i.e Companies annual report.

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#61 SmoothMoved
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Realily Check for Lemming who think M$ is bigger company then Sony

M$'s global annual revenue= $44.28 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

Sony's global annual revenue = $68.39 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony

I know you probably think " Duh, its wikipedia...it could be written by anyone" but it has evidence to back up the figures. i.e Companies annual report.

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[QUOTE="ATrillionaire"]http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/ReverieDLM

This article is ranking corporations based on Revenue, not market cap. Revenue is immaterial to this discussion. In fact, they're pretty much meaningless in general. Of all of that revenue, only $11B was actually profit. Exxon meanwhile had almost $40B in profit (while also having double the market cap of Walmart).

Actually, this list is kind of stupid when you think about it.

How does that change the fact that Walmart is the biggest corporation? I actually said in my original post that Exxon was more profitable...and that is all that counts, but that does not change the fact that Walmart has more assets and creates more cash (much of which is spent already as compared to Exxon).

lol, now the Fortune 500 list is stupid. whatever.

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[QUOTE="ReverieDLM"]

[QUOTE="ATrillionaire"]http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/ATrillionaire

This article is ranking corporations based on Revenue, not market cap. Revenue is immaterial to this discussion. In fact, they're pretty much meaningless in general. Of all of that revenue, only $11B was actually profit. Exxon meanwhile had almost $40B in profit (while also having double the market cap of Walmart).

Actually, this list is kind of stupid when you think about it.

How does that change the fact that Walmart is the biggest corporation? I actually said in my original post that Exxon was more profitable...and that is all that counts, but that does not change the fact that Walmart has more assets and creates more cash (much of which is spent already as compared to Exxon).

lol, now the Fortune 500 list is stupid. whatever.

So you're talking the biggest in terms of net worth, including physical assets and the like. Arguable, considering how many brick-and-mortar buildings (and all the assorted merchandise therein) the company holds.

Thatsaid,Sonyispubliclytraded,andthusownershipcanbedeterminedinthestockmarket.Thatsaid, Microsoft wouldn't consider a hostile takeover of Sony. It'd be like when AOL bought out Time Warner--it got a little too big for itself.

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#64 thermovie644064
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They would never buy Sony....Sony is way to big for that to happen they have lots of products on the market to sell to Microsoft however if the Playstation 3 does not pic up in sells Sony could sell thePlaystation brand to Microsoft.....and i could see that happening it seems like Sony wants the Playstation to die off for some reason and if it did they would sell to Microsoft in a heart beat.
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#65 Eltroz
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Good lord people stop talking about revenue. You need to talk about net profit because that is the money the company is left with.

It works like this. A TV sells for $250 ( revenue ) From that $250 money goes to product cost from the factory, cost of to build, taxes, employees. Other costs such as advertising and others like that. after costs like this you you are left with NET PROFIT. So after that $250 profit you may be left with $50.

In the end MS makes far more Net Profit ( Money that the company gets to keep) then Sony does.

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MS just last month put a bid for Yahoo that was $50 billion http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/04/microsoft-pursues-yahoo-takeover/ Yahoo did not want to so the deal will not happen. This though shows that MS is able to buy out a company with crazy sums of money like $50 billion.

Sony's market value is $54 billion http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=SNESo in theory yes MS could very easly buy out Sony. Showing they paid almost same price for Yahoo last month. Would they? No never.WouldSony like to sell? No never also.Even if Sony said no MS could also just buy 51% of Sony stock ( hostile takeover) and then just control Sony. that would be far more problems by far then it would be worth. First that is not always legal to do. Also I doubt MS wants to be involved in the type of products that Sony makes besides of course consoles.

Yes Sony is a big company but not as big as MS.

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lol if your are trying to imply 360 needs a GREAT star wars game like battlefront then i am with you on this thread.hongkingkong
He's implying they're evil.
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#68 HuusAsking
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MS just last month put a bid for Yahoo that was $50 billion http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/04/microsoft-pursues-yahoo-takeover/ Yahoo did not want to so the deal will not happen. This though shows that MS is able to buy out a company with crazy sums of money like $50 billion.

Sony's market value is $54 billion http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=SNESo in theory yes MS could very easly buy out Sony. Showing they paid almost same price for Yahoo last month. Would they? No never.WouldSony like to sell? No never also.Even if Sony said no MS could also just buy 51% of Sony stock ( hostile takeover) and then just control Sony. that would be far more problems by far then it would be worth. First that is not always legal to do. Also I doubt MS wants to be involved in the type of products that Sony makes besides of course consoles.

Yes Sony is a big company but not as big as MS.

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MS pursued Yahoo for its electronic assets, which would be of benefit to a Microsoft in pursuit of a something to bolster their MSN network against the big boyslike AOL. Not to mention all the demographic data it could reap. But, no soap. Back to the drawing board. But I agree with you. Sony involves itself in too many things in which MS wants no part.
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And Complete this Mutha ******!!! :o

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M$ tried to buy ninty during gamecube days, and ninty president told them to suck his balls

that was a while back I think I remember that too. :lol: