When ppl talk about the greatest devs they forget something....

How long the game has been in dev. Blizzard and Valve are always on the top 3 list but these guys take alot longer to release a game then most companies, this inclused bioware etc.. Devs like Naughty dog, release great games every year or 2. Imagine if they had the same timeframe as bliz or valve? Although, bliz and valve do make the best games imo.

IDK, im a firm believer that quality> quantity. If one dev pumps out an A game every year while another makes an AA game every two years then I would say that the AA dev is better.

I don't really care about how fast they pump out games. I care about how good they are. Naughty Dog and Insomniac games lack that feeling of polish I see on AAA titles in my opinion. That's why we will never be talking about how great there work was 10 years from now. Despite that they are still good devs.

Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.Tylendal

if they take the time to make great games then who am i to judge, blizzard are one of the best devs around as far as i am concerned.

I don't really care about how fast they pump out games. I care about how good they are. Naughty Dog and Insomniac games lack that feeling of polish I see on AAA titles in my opinion. That's why we will never be talking about how great there work was 10 years from now. Despite that they are still good devs.

ActicEdge

Spyro and Crash - Absolute classics that still get recognised for their greatness today. And by the time Insomniac is done with R&C its greatness will still be talked about. Those are games that people love. I really don't know what you're talking about. :|

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.TheGrat1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_developers

The more you know...

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.Tylendal

I know, but to say, give the mario team credit for something the Zelda team did just is'nt right. My point is people should'nt list publishers when listing best developers.TheGrat1

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I don't really care about how fast they pump out games. I care about how good they are. Naughty Dog and Insomniac games lack that feeling of polish I see on AAA titles in my opinion. That's why we will never be talking about how great there work was 10 years from now. Despite that they are still good devs.

TheGrat1

Spyro and Crash - Absolute classics that still get recognised for their greatness today. And by the time Insomniac is done with R&C its greatness will still be talked about. Those are games that people love. I really don't know what you're talking about. :|

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't really care about how fast they pump out games. I care about how good they are. Naughty Dog and Insomniac games lack that feeling of polish I see on AAA titles in my opinion. That's why we will never be talking about how great there work was 10 years from now. Despite that they are still good devs.

Tylendal

Spyro and Crash - Absolute classics that still get recognised for their greatness today. And by the time Insomniac is done with R&C its greatness will still be talked about. Those are games that people love. I really don't know what you're talking about. :|

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"] I know, but to say, give the mario team credit for something the Zelda team did just is'nt right. My point is people should'nt list publishers when listing best developers.JuarN18

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

Spyro and Crash - Absolute classics that still get recognised for their greatness today. And by the time Insomniac is done with R&C its greatness will still be talked about. Those are games that people love. I really don't know what you're talking about. :|

emorainbo

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't really care about how fast they pump out games. I care about how good they are. Naughty Dog and Insomniac games lack that feeling of polish I see on AAA titles in my opinion. That's why we will never be talking about how great there work was 10 years from now. Despite that they are still good devs.

Spyro and Crash - Absolute classics that still get recognised for their greatness today. And by the time Insomniac is done with R&C its greatness will still be talked about. Those are games that people love. I really don't know what you're talking about. :|

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"] 3AA crash bandicoot games, 4A, 2 Sub A, and one AAA for the mobile phone that has recieved exactly one review. That sounds more "run of the mill" than "classic". As for Spyro? 1AAA fairly early in it's life. 4AA, 4A, 19 Sub A, mostly more recent games, going as low as 45/100. That's a history of ratings reminiscent of a certain blue hedgehog... If you want classics, look at something like Mario, who despite being around for decades has managed to not only score consistent AAA & AA ratings, but land it's most recent title in the spot of 3rd highest rated game of all time. THOSE, are classics.Tylendal

nintendos the best and i doubt they will ever be topped. While they have hit a few rough patches in the past few years. 10- 25 years ago they were untouchable. I mean despite all of the awesome stuff with online, and hd and stuff that has come out this gen. Imo it still cant beat what they did back in the day. Even smg is like my favorite game ive played this gen. I feel that they have just made the perfect formula on what makes games fun

But as you can see, Nintendo EAD has four different groups with a total of 800+ people. Its like 4 dev teams working in one studio, hardly comprable to a smaller dev like Naughty Dog. The Zelda team does'nt work on wii sports resort, as you can see.TheGrat1

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]But as you can see, Nintendo EAD has four different groups with a total of 800+ people. Its like 4 dev teams working in one studio, hardly comprable to a smaller dev like Naughty Dog. The Zelda team does'nt work on wii sports resort, as you can see.JuarN18

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.OrwellJames

So what are they? An amalgamation of developers? Nintendo started into video-games as developers, and today, the are still developers. Just because they've made many interchangeable teams doesn't mean they aren't a developer.

One thing most people forget is that Shigeru Miyamoto is the greatest developer. I'm not sure how it slips people's minds. It's like they don't realize why gaming exists.

How long the game has been in dev. Blizzard and Valve are always on the top 3 list but these guys take alot longer to release a game then most companies, this inclused bioware etc.. Devs like Naughty dog, release great games every year or 2. Imagine if they had the same timeframe as bliz or valve? Although, bliz and valve do make the best games imo.

miscin123

Why are people saying Nintendo isn't a Developer? That doesn't make any sense. If Nintendo didn't make Mario Galaxy or Zelda and only published them, then who were the developers?

It's like saying EPIC didn't make Gears of War or Unreal.

[QUOTE="OrwellJames"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.Tylendal

So what are they? An amalgamation of developers? Nintendo started into video-games as developers, and today, the are still developers. Just because they've made many interchangeable teams doesn't mean they aren't a developer.

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[QUOTE="OrwellJames"] Nintendo isn't a developer, brilliance.OrwellJames

So what are they? An amalgamation of developers? Nintendo started into video-games as developers, and today, the are still developers. Just because they've made many interchangeable teams doesn't mean they aren't a developer.

the people who make left 4 dead are not allways the same people who are making half life episode 3 does that mean they dont count too :(

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

Spyro and Crash - Absolute classics that still get recognised for their greatness today. And by the time Insomniac is done with R&C its greatness will still be talked about. Those are games that people love. I really don't know what you're talking about. :|

TheGrat1

[QUOTE="OrwellJames"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.Tylendal

So what are they? An amalgamation of developers? Nintendo started into video-games as developers, and today, the are still developers. Just because they've made many interchangeable teams doesn't mean they aren't a developer.

Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.Tylendal

Quality > Quantity

Also, almost all of those games were published by Nintendo and nothing more. Nintendo is as collection of hundreds of development studios. You might as well do console vs console.

Oops, I messed that up. Comparing Nintendo to over companies is like comparing EA, Square-Enix, SEGA, Capcom, and other developers. Blizzard is self-contained team. They four development teams but it's all one studio under one roof. Show me a company that is as small as them with only one full team under one roof that has done what Blizzard has.

Also, most of Blizzard's higher-ups are shared among the three development teams.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]Nintendo is the only possible answer. Of the 250+ AAA games on Gamerankings, 54 of them are by Nintendo. Until another company manages to have published over 17% of the greatest games of all time, Nintendo is hands down the greatest developer of all time.DeckardLee

Quality > Quantity

Also, almost all of those games were published by Nintendo and nothing more. Nintendo is as collection of hundreds of development studios. You might as well do console vs console.

Why are people saying Nintendo isn't a Developer? That doesn't make any sense. If Nintendo didn't make Mario Galaxy or Zelda and only published them, then who were the developers?

It's like saying EPIC didn't make Gears of War or Unreal.

mistablair

You need a re-read.

[QUOTE="mistablair"]

Why are people saying Nintendo isn't a Developer? That doesn't make any sense. If Nintendo didn't make Mario Galaxy or Zelda and only published them, then who were the developers?

It's like saying EPIC didn't make Gears of War or Unreal.

DeckardLee

You need a re-read.

[QUOTE="OrwellJames"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

So what are they? An amalgamation of developers? Nintendo started into video-games as developers, and today, the are still developers. Just because they've made many interchangeable teams doesn't mean they aren't a developer.

mistablair

[QUOTE="mistablair"]

Why are people saying Nintendo isn't a Developer? That doesn't make any sense. If Nintendo didn't make Mario Galaxy or Zelda and only published them, then who were the developers?

It's like saying EPIC didn't make Gears of War or Unreal.

DeckardLee

You need a re-read.

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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"] I know, but to say, give the mario team credit for something the Zelda team did just is'nt right. My point is people should'nt list publishers when listing best developers.TheGrat1

That doesn't matter. It's still Nintendo. They're the developer. You can't take away points just because they have the resources and manpower to shift people around.

NuaghtyDog/Insomniac >>>>>>>> All

I think it depends on the genre, Bioware and Infinity Ward cannot really be compared because their games are so drastically different. For shooters, I say Valve (although IW is high up there too), Bioware for RPGs, Creative Assembly or Relic for RTS (although all Creative Assembly games not "Total War" were awful save Spartan: Total Warrior which was passable)

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[QUOTE="mistablair"]

Why are people saying Nintendo isn't a Developer? That doesn't make any sense. If Nintendo didn't make Mario Galaxy or Zelda and only published them, then who were the developers?

It's like saying EPIC didn't make Gears of War or Unreal.

mexicangordo

You need a re-read.