When was the last time a system had so little going for it?

With the PS3 and 360, the PS3 was overall the more powerful system architecturally, but was hard to develop for because of the cell. At least PS3 owners could hold out hope knowing that the potential was there once devs figured the thing out. With the Xbox One, it's the hard system to develop for this time around but it's also way weaker than the PS4 so it doesn't even have that potential. In an absolute best case scenario for the Xbox One, it could get better but it will still pale in comparison to the PS4 performance wise.

Plus, no one wants the Kinect. People want their games in 1080p, not their Skype calls. People want 60 fps, not the ability to talk to their system. Way to force an unwanted piece of hardware into every SKU. Microsoft doesn't listen to what the people want, they tell them want they want. Sony has done the opposite and it's done wonders for them so far.

Not to mention, the XB1 bottle necks itself so certain parts of the hardware can't even work to their full potential due to limitations in other areas. It's really mind blowing how such a big engineering brain fart could take place like this. It's going to waste so much of their money spending money on parts for the system that can't even be used because it's bottle necked. The problem is that since they've already launched the system, it's too late to change it. They're screwed and now have a bottle necked system for the next 8 years.

You shouldn't be so harsh on the PS4. Im sure it will get something worth playing next year.

When the 360 came out.

People want 1080p?

But they already had it last gen.

This generation just looks like it's going to be a really fun time for Cows and a really hard time for Lems. I mean, how would Cows feel if their PS4 system was much weaker than the Xbox 1? Lems would not let them hear the end of it you can be sure of that. Could you imagine if the PS4 was both weaker and more expensive? Chaos would ensue. We are about to experience a generation where the PS4 is going to have the superior version of every multiplat. It's not going to be like the PS3 and 360 where each had their own fair share of better performing multiplats.

Just the reverse of the first 3 years of the PS3;

weaker

more expansives

no games

PS4's launch like up was a joke, although that is redeemed by infamous releasing next month and quite possibly the greatest mmo ever existed will be out a few weeks after that.

Final Fantasy 14

Remember how PS3 had the better exclusive lineup? That's how it got by and took the lead over the 360. It had more exclusive studios, better exclusive studios and more, better exclusive games.

So here's my main question. If the PS4 is cheaper, more powerful, has all the superior multiplats, the better exclusive lineup, what exactly does the Xbox One have? I'm not even trying to unjustly bash the XB1 here, I'm seriously just asking what that system has going for it?

Considering Infamous 2 sold less than 1,I wouldn't considering this a huge system seller

So you openly admit you're a Sony fanboy, Zumba guy?

Well, I'm a PC guy first because it has the best games and the most powerful architecture. I buy every system every generation usually, but I'm not so sure that I will this time around. I do own a Wii U which I do like a lot, and I have all the best games for it. I just recently picked up a PS4 with 4 games, but I don't think I'll be buying an Xbox One. Considering I play everything except for the Microsoft console, I don't think it would be appropriate to call me a Sony fanboy. I guess I am just an anti-fanboy for Microsoft because I really don't think the Xbox One looks any good.

I wasn't comparing sales :|

And considering the massive install base difference, i wouldn't honestly be surprised if infamous on PS4 outsold Titanfall on XB1, seeing as the 360 and PC version will bring down it's potential sales, and it's a new and unproven IP

Last gen, I owned (and still do) a PC, PS3, 360 and Wii. The PC got about 50% of my playtime, the PS3 about 30%, the Wii about 15% and the 360 about 5%. That said, I thought that the 360 was a much more capable and attractive system in relation to its competitors compared to the Xbox One vs its competitors. Based on how little I used the 360, combined with how bad I think the Xbox One looks in comparison, I really don't even think it's worth my money. In all honesty, it just looks like a system I'd never use. The PS4 will have all the better multiplats and the better exclusive lineup. I can't think of a reason I'd ever use an Xbox One.

So Zumba didn't go so well. You should take a selfie.

I don't feel the X1 has so little going for it, not until they exhaust their exclusive line-up and the PS4 advantage is so severe that they don't even make multiplats for the X1 because they're designed with PS4's capabilities in mind. Until then though. As for now, the Wii U has a lot less going for it than the X1, or even the Vita.

Things look really bad for the Xbox One and I'm honestly surprised that the fans even show up. If I had a stigma attached to my name associated with being an Xbox fan, I would straight up delete my account. What a daunting task to show up here every day supporting and fighting for such a lousy console. It literally has nothing going for it. The fact that the Xbox One even has fans that show up here to defend it just goes to show that anything's possible I guess.

i would like one hundred and forty four frames per second and not a penny less.

Minimal amounts of quality exclusives and the worst versions of multiplats doesn't bode well for the overpriced Xbox One.

It's really as simple as that. More expensive, less powerful, worse performance. That's it in a nutshell. It's gotten to the point to where even non-gamers see that the PS4 trumps the Xbox One.

I just look back to the absolute darkest days of the PS3, and even when things were at its worst, the system still had potential. It still had a better processor than the 360, and a very comparable GPU and RAM albeit less powerful. The running joke all generation was, "unlock the power of the cell". Everyone was always waiting for it, and it eventually did happen.

The difference is, the Xbox One has no, "power of the cell", to unlock, or anything even similar to it. There's no potential here, nothing to look forward to. What you see is what you get.

Even with the "untapped power" in the PS3,360 still managed to get most of all multiplats running better

Why are you giving this Dbag the time of day?

I really hope the PS4 gets a game someday, so cows can have a reason to get off System Wars for a little while.

What did he do to deserve being called that?

In the 2nd half of the generation, PS3 started getting multiplats on par, and in some cases even better than the 360 counterparts. What ended up happening was the Cell was compensating for the weaker GPU and RAM in the PS3, creating a more equal experience instead of a much better experience that people were expecting. When I say PS3 had potential, I mean that it had potential to get a lot better than what it was getting early on.

When it comes to potential, comparing the PS3 and Xbox One is like night and day. The PS3 had the specs to back the potential up. The Xbox One is struggling and it's more so because it's so underpowered than it is the fact it's hard to develop for. The PS3 was infinitely more hard to develop for than the Xbox One. As of right now, "hard to develop for", just seems like a cop out because the power under the hood is more responsible for this lack of performance than anything.

Companies all make mistakes. Sony spent billions on research and development for the Cell Processor and it ended up being really detrimental. They could have saved all that money and just went with an AMD or Intel processor. This time around, they went with a more PC centric processor that's easy to develop for and it's working wonders for them. They realized it's stupid to spend a ton of money making something proprietary when it doesn't need to be. Spending money on research and development for things that don't need to be researched or developed is how companies go under. They had bad direction.

Microsoft's cell processor is the Kinect. The Kinect will be considered the mistake of the generation, just as the Cell was. The problem is, the Xbox One has a hell of a lot more problems than just the mandatory Kinect, such as the ESRAM solution.

Those were pretty rare

Wii U, 2012.

xbone bees worfless. you wonts even bees robbed up in mys hood walkin down da block with one. even da cluckers bees knowin they cant bees gettin nothin at pawn for da junk

MeanLeanBoi said all that needs saying, I'm afraid. Close the thread.

I absolutely agree. Engineering-wise, the Xbone is a cluster f*ck. The PS4 is so well designed. It's amazing how just $15 million in R&D trumped $5 billion in R&D. Microsoft has no excuse.

I can understand this post but one counter point would be how do you know Ms will never develop a game that make the kinect more useful. Note that I said more because you act as if no person alive like that the X1 came with a kinect. Also you posted this as soon as multiplates such as wolfenstien and murdered :soul suspect were announced to be 1080p on both. Fact is also there are games that people want to play that will never be on ps4 ie. Halo, Forza, dead, rising and KI. So even though ps4 will likely sell better it's doing its going to be OK. Honestly you would be better spending your time telling people how hard of a time the wii u will have

Sony has been way more cool and composed through all of this. Microsoft has been so knee jerk reactionary. When they changed their policies from DRM / no used games to be more like PS4, it was a knee jerk reaction to stop the bad PR and stop the bleeding. They didn't want to listen to the fans, they had to. Through all of this generation so far and everything leading up to it, Microsoft has just been making mistake after mistake. They don't listen to what the gamers and fans want, they tell them what they want. They screwed the controller up and made it worse, they're a computer software company that can't even make a decent UI for the XB1. Sony at E3 stole the show by basically making a mockery of Xbox. Xbox got too cocky and for no reason. Sure, they got some marketshare last gen, but they are last place in sales behind the Wii and PS3. The generation before was a tie with GameCube which also got smashed by PS2. They have no reason to get cocky. People compare it to PS3 and how they let the success of the PS2 get to their heads, but the Xbox has never been anything but last place.

If Kinect really was about gaming, Microsoft would be focusing on Kinect games right now. Instead, all I see are last-gen games on a supposed next-gen console that could run on the PS3 or 360 without any gimmicks.

The Kinect was added on in order to "differentiate" the Xbone just like how Nintendo added a touch screen controller to differentiate themselves from the competition. Sales numbers show that nobody gives 2 shits about gimmicks.

Microsoft is probably losing BILLIONS with the Xbone that they will never recoup until 100+ years from now.

The fact that no developers are utilizing Kinect in any meaningful way just goes to show that it's not about gaming. That's something that was established last gen on the 360. The Kinect, yeah, a cool piece of tech, but it's not good for gaming. Never was, never will be. It'll always be relegated to a dance game controller and that's it. In fact, that's what surprised me most about E3, the fact that no one was using the Kinect. Even more surprising was how no one even mentioned how Kinect was completely off the radar. What was the point of this thing in the box commanding a $500 price tag? From e3 to now, I have yet to see anyone taking it seriously.

Funny that you say 3 years, when the PS3 launched a year later than the 360, so in fact it was only two years, 2006 and 2007. 2008 PS3 destroyed the 360 line up (and pretty much every other line up) with MGS4, LBP etc.

2 bad years for the PS3, rest great.

360 had 3 great years, rest bad.

I think you overestimate how much people care about the sheer "power" of a console. For me it's about the features and games, which Microsoft is catering more towards my preferences than the competition. While it seems popular among the hardcore gaming crowd these days to hate on blockbuster games like Call of Duty and Halo, those have a huge pull for the casual gamer (who typically doesn't give a crap about the P's that have all of us in a frenzy.)

not supporting the piece of plastic they worship

Atari Jaguar, WiiU, XBOX ONE

I really don't think I'm overestimating anything. I do believe that the average American consumer is pretty impulsive and uneducated based on their purchases, but not to the extent that they'd pay $100 more for substantially weaker hardware. I understand that people go around throwing $500 bucks like it's nothing without even doing research, but anyone who actually researches the products knows that the Xbox One is a bad deal.

At the end of the day, 95% of the games will be shared between the systems, multiplats. 5% will be exclusives and both Microsoft and Sony will have their fair share of good ones. Honestly, the only reason I could see to buy an Xbox One is for Halo and that's it.

Hell, the fact that the PS4 is winning in NA just goes to show that Xbone is messing up badly. NA is their territory.

This in 1080p and now you can do it with the lights off lmao

Both PS3 and 360 has nothing for the first year. People complain about current gen but man it was a wasteland from 2006-8.

Infamous Second Son will probably sell better than the previous infamous games since it's on a more popular console now, but the small ps4 install base may hurt the game a bit initially.

HA THE PS4 AND THE XBOX ONE IS A JOKE THE ENTIRE LIBRARY IS FILLED TO THE TEETH WITH PORTS THE VERY SAME THING YOU GUYS WERE WHINING BACK WHEN WIIU WAS LAUNCHED ROTFLOL AND IT CONTINUES TO MISS OUT ON BIG GAMES, NASCAR 14 GTA V , BATMAN -EVEN WIIU GOT THAT , , THE IRONY

I recommend neither the xbox one or the ps4 right now to anyone. The PS4 has little to no exclusives released for it yet. Whatever exclusives it has are all mostly medicore,really bad or unimpressive(I'm talking about killzone shadow fall, knack and some of the bad downloadable exclusive games released for the PS4) .Infamous second son may fix the PS4's exclusive lineup, but more quality exclusives that impressive people need to be released.The order 1886 may impressive, but from what reading about the game it is not that impressive right now.The xbox one is overpriced and is missing features, but it has some exclusives that may interest a lot more people than the ps4 exclusives right now.I don't think people will care about the graphics capabilities of either next console by the end of this gen because they are both weak consoles.

A horrible MGS game and a horrible platformer counts as destroying every lineup? lol wut?

I would argue that while both lineups are poor, Xbox one is stronger than the PS4's Having Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Killer Instinct, Ryse (poor) versus essentially just Killzone and knack (poor)

In the next month we will see both receive big titles in the form of Infamous and Titan Fall, with Titan Fall looking to be more popular than the other with its current hype, I would say game wise that the Xbox has more going for it, and will until we hit winter this year, and when compared to systems like the Wii U, and the Vita which have largely fallen off the radar for most people, I would say its not in that bad of a situation.

Lems have no shame or self-respect, what do you expect?

Yeah the xbone sucks. Btw hows life treating you OP...

Still rocking those selfies are we?