When was the last time a system had so little going for it?

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#51 Acez626
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Why are topics such as these left open, but topics I create that cause subjective arguments closed because they favor the Xbox one?

Not going to call out names, but there is a mod here that seems to lacking unbiased judgement, and letting his love for sony take over his choices...or hers...whatever

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#52  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@getyeryayasout said:

History will probably repeat it's self. X1 will probably have an amazing first half of it's life and Sony will probably be a little slower game release-wise out of the gate but will offer a better long-term experience. On a side note, after a couple years if the X1 isn't keeping pace with the PS4 (even though I expect it to), look for MS to launch it's next system after four years of the X1's run. They did it with the transition from Xbox to Xbox 360 and it worked out well from them, they'll try it again if they think it'll win them the living room.

The xbox had a short life because ms had to stop producing the xbox because of issues with nivida.The xbox one will be supported for at least 5 years and maybe more.

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#53 killatwill15
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@MonsieurX said:

@arkephonic said:

I just look back to the absolute darkest days of the PS3, and even when things were at its worst, the system still had potential. It still had a better processor than the 360, and a very comparable GPU and RAM albeit less powerful. The running joke all generation was, "unlock the power of the cell". Everyone was always waiting for it, and it eventually did happen.

The difference is, the Xbox One has no, "power of the cell", to unlock, or anything even similar to it. There's no potential here, nothing to look forward to. What you see is what you get.

Even with the "untapped power" in the PS3,360 still managed to get most of all multiplats running better

we all know that ps3 shit the bed last gen,

but the xbone,

oh man,

straight bloody,

ass aching diarrhea that will that will hold back the gen again,

because of its already ancient hardware.

matter of fact it will do more damage to the industry than the wii u.

while pc and ps4 move forward,

they will always have to miss a few steps for the xbone to hobble along with its pants down.

just like ps3 having to deal with dvd sized games because ms was to stupid to invest into hd-dvd,

or at least a proprietary disc with more than 8gb of space.

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#55 Xaero_Gravity
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Some of you take this console war shit way too seriously. u_u

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#56  Edited By TheRealBigRich
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Truth is the Op is right in a saying that the ps4 will sell more but why act as if it's doing so bad that there not making money on it. I mean once again I dont know what's the point of this thread

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#57 R4gn4r0k  Online
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@arkephonic said:

Last gen, I owned (and still do) a PC, PS3, 360 and Wii. The PC got about 50% of my playtime, the PS3 about 30%, the Wii about 15% and the 360 about 5%. That said, I thought that the 360 was a much more capable and attractive system in relation to its competitors compared to the Xbox One vs its competitors. Based on how little I used the 360, combined with how bad I think the Xbox One looks in comparison, I really don't even think it's worth my money. In all honesty, it just looks like a system I'd never use. The PS4 will have all the better multiplats and the better exclusive lineup. I can't think of a reason I'd ever use an Xbox One.

Same here. I owned a PC, PS3, 360, DS and PSP last gen

This gen I'm going for a PC, PS4, WiiU, 3DS and Vita. Xbone has nothing going for it. I see the same thing happening as what happened to 360: nothing interesting besides Halo/forza/gears.

Quantum Break looks interesting, but that is basically it.

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#58  Edited By Bishop1310
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Oh look.. another thread where one person thinks their opinion matters and what their saying actually makes sense..

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#59  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@Sweenix said:

@mems_1224 said:

You shouldn't be so harsh on the PS4. Im sure it will get something worth playing next year.

PS4's launch like up was a joke, although that is redeemed by infamous releasing next month and quite possibly the greatest mmo ever existed will be out a few weeks after that.

Final Fantasy 14

lmao.... nice joke.

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#60 always_explicit
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I guess after 4 months of Killzone and Knack anyone would be trolling SW initiating circle jerks to make themselves feel better.

The PS4 might be more powerful but it lacks a decent catalog of game in the here and now.

Its missing a whole host of features that were readily available on the PS3.

Its the most dull and uninspiring console Sony has ever released. I cannot fathom why so many people have chosen to buy one this early in its life-cycle on the promise that it will get better. If its "for the gamers"...perhaps it should have released with some decent games.

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#61 RedentSC
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@MonsieurX said:

People want 1080p?

But they already had it last gen.

1080p games on console last gen? show me

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#62 Newhopes
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Tip of the week, never buy new Gen consoles within the frist year or 2 they're never worth it.

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#63 thedork_knight
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so you mean the ps4 at the moment has little going for it, as the XBO has a better library/features at the moment.

Remember the most powerful console has never won the war!

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#64 WilliamRLBaker
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ark: buububub im not a sheen I have more than one system.

lol you provided some laughter over at the vestibule you should come back ark.

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#65 StormyJoe
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@arkephonic said:

With the PS3 and 360, the PS3 was overall the more powerful system architecturally, but was hard to develop for because of the cell. At least PS3 owners could hold out hope knowing that the potential was there once devs figured the thing out. With the Xbox One, it's the hard system to develop for this time around but it's also way weaker than the PS4 so it doesn't even have that potential. In an absolute best case scenario for the Xbox One, it could get better but it will still pale in comparison to the PS4 performance wise.

Plus, no one wants the Kinect. People want their games in 1080p, not their Skype calls. People want 60 fps, not the ability to talk to their system. Way to force an unwanted piece of hardware into every SKU. Microsoft doesn't listen to what the people want, they tell them want they want. Sony has done the opposite and it's done wonders for them so far.

Not to mention, the XB1 bottle necks itself so certain parts of the hardware can't even work to their full potential due to limitations in other areas. It's really mind blowing how such a big engineering brain fart could take place like this. It's going to waste so much of their money spending money on parts for the system that can't even be used because it's bottle necked. The problem is that since they've already launched the system, it's too late to change it. They're screwed and now have a bottle necked system for the next 8 years.

Blog it. No one is interested in the fact that you are not interested in an XBox One. Plus, all of your "points" are wrong.

Cows gonna cow...

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#66 MonsieurX
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@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

People want 1080p?

But they already had it last gen.

1080p games on console last gen? show me

Look at your TV.

Shows that it's 1080p

And it's written on the back of the game case as well!

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#67 timbers_WSU
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This loser is back? And I was thinking this forum couldn't get worse.

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#68  Edited By RedentSC
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@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

People want 1080p?

But they already had it last gen.

1080p games on console last gen? show me

Look at your TV.

Shows that it's 1080p

And it's written on the back of the game case as well!

no thats UPSCALED not native... doesn't count

Once again, she me a native 1080p 7th gen console game

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#69 MonsieurX
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@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

People want 1080p?

But they already had it last gen.

1080p games on console last gen? show me

Look at your TV.

Shows that it's 1080p

And it's written on the back of the game case as well!

no thats UPSCALED not native... doesn't count

Most people can't tell if it's native or upscaled

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#70 RedentSC
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@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

People want 1080p?

But they already had it last gen.

1080p games on console last gen? show me

Look at your TV.

Shows that it's 1080p

And it's written on the back of the game case as well!

no thats UPSCALED not native... doesn't count

Most people can't tell if it's native or upscaled

Hardlies the point now is it... its still not in 1080p.... end of discussion

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#71  Edited By MonsieurX
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@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX said:

People want 1080p?

But they already had it last gen.

1080p games on console last gen? show me

Look at your TV.

Shows that it's 1080p

And it's written on the back of the game case as well!

no thats UPSCALED not native... doesn't count

Most people can't tell if it's native or upscaled

Hardlies the point now is it... its still not in 1080p.... end of discussion

But people won't notice it,what's the point?

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#72  Edited By RedentSC
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@MonsieurX Some people will, some wont. It doesn't change the technical fact that its not in 1080p... which makes your original statement complete bullshit.

Regardless of your OPINION on whether people will notice, its still not in 1080p.. this is not up for debate, its a technical fact.

At this point.. i'm gonna ignore any response as you are clearly thicker than pig shit on this forum

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#73  Edited By blackace
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@arkephonic: Yes, the Ouya & SteamBox doesn't have much going for them at all. I can't believe people are going to waste money buying those systems. The PS4 will finally get some decent exclusives with Infamous SS & Drive Club, but we'll have to wait until the end of the year for the rest of the goods. The XB1 will receive it's SDK update on March 11 and Titanfall will help to push more XB1's to the masses. Once the E3 hits, everyone will want to get XB1 after Microsoft conference. So many exclusives coming in 2014 & 2015. Greatness In Coming!!

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@GrenadeLauncher said:

Both PS3 and 360 has nothing for the first year. People complain about current gen but man it was a wasteland from 2006-8.

Xbox 360 had plenty right out of the gate. It immediately started with 2 "AAAE". Something that took the PS3 18 months to get. Microsoft delivered the goods for the first 6 years. Sony delivered the goods for the last 6 years. They had nothing for the first 2 years.

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#74  Edited By MonsieurX
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@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX Some people will, some wont. It doesn't change the technical fact that its not in 1080p... which makes your original statement complete bullshit.

Regardless of your OPINION on whether people will notice, its still not in 1080p.. this is not up for debate, its a technical fact.

At this point.. i'm gonna ignore any response as you are clearly thicker than pig shit on this forum

lol

But it displays in 1080p on your TV,count the pixels!

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#75  Edited By Boddicker
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Someone needs a lesson in console history.

1) The NeoGeo cost $600 in the late 80's and the games cost $200. With all respect though I hear a lot of the games were pretty good for their time.

2) The Atari Jaguar was a complete mess from the word "go."

3) The 3DO was a steaming pile that played a lot of FMV games (remember those?).

4) etc, etc, etc.

The current console market is built upon the husks of consoles long forgotten (most with good reason). Now let's look at the X1; It's basically a significantly (how significant idk) weaker piece of shit than the PS4 that costs $100 more and includes a peripheral that 90% of the "core" gaming community that actually commit to being early adopters did not want. The ESram is a complete clusterfuck, but then again we all thought the PS4 would make 1080p 60 fps the standard which it obviously hasn't.

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#76  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@arkephonic said:

I just look back to the absolute darkest days of the PS3, and even when things were at its worst, the system still had potential. It still had a better processor than the 360, and a very comparable GPU and RAM albeit less powerful. The running joke all generation was, "unlock the power of the cell". Everyone was always waiting for it, and it eventually did happen.

The difference is, the Xbox One has no, "power of the cell", to unlock, or anything even similar to it. There's no potential here, nothing to look forward to. What you see is what you get.

This is why I am on a cow-busting steak.... you have less games than the X1 currenly... yet play this stupid card every time. oh no metacritic average? with indie resogun inflating it? what about the 2 big games knack n killzone... killzone being the "systems benchmark" awful games... Infamous, a b grade 1st party franchise.

If the Xbox One is so bad.... why is it on what 3.5-4 million sales at this point? oh sure... behind PS4... we know... we understand.... cheaper .... and better PR.... but actually has no games. and is not even having the best game of march to the majority of people REGARDLESS of your snowflake preferences.

sigh... the "power of the cell" did not "eventually happen" ... just one bloody company "naughty dog" managed to pull off a great aesthetic/animation/everything on s*it tech. both were about even and for 90% of the generation most games played better on Xbox .

What you see is waht you get with PS4 ... killzone... with epic blur and 30 FPS..... and all graphics focus no gameplay, the sony way.

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#77 Silverbond
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The Wii U probably.

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#79 CrownKingArthur
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@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX Some people will, some wont. It doesn't change the technical fact that its not in 1080p... which makes your original statement complete bullshit.

Regardless of your OPINION on whether people will notice, its still not in 1080p.. this is not up for debate, its a technical fact.

At this point.. i'm gonna ignore any response as you are clearly thicker than pig shit on this forum

lol

But it displays in 1080p on your TV,count the pixels!

come on man! you've kept this going long enough, by the way - nice.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

redent, do a ctrl+f, then type '1920x1080', you can see the full hd games and what systems they were on.

for example fifa street 3 on ps360.

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#80 MonsieurX
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@CrownKingArthur said:
@MonsieurX said:

@RedentSC said:

@MonsieurX Some people will, some wont. It doesn't change the technical fact that its not in 1080p... which makes your original statement complete bullshit.

Regardless of your OPINION on whether people will notice, its still not in 1080p.. this is not up for debate, its a technical fact.

At this point.. i'm gonna ignore any response as you are clearly thicker than pig shit on this forum

lol

But it displays in 1080p on your TV,count the pixels!

come on man! you've kept this going long enough, by the way - nice.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

redent, do a ctrl+f, then type '1920x1080', you can see the full hd games and what systems they were on.

for example fifa street 3 on ps360.

Yeah,like most people would bother checking this thread instead of only checking at the back of the case

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#81 CrownKingArthur
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@MonsieurX: hey matey patatey. you have much to teach us all!