When Will 360 Sales Begin to Pick Up Drastically?

When it drops to $200. Historically, thats when consoles have really begun to move. The further you get away from that point, the slower your sales become. The global sales of the Wii, 360 and PS3 corroborate that.

The only other factor is games library, and in the console market the 360 is way ahead in that department.

Not much else really matters, the RROD are actually a minor deterrent. The PS2 moved despite chronic disk errors. The PS1 moved despite the relative infancy of the Sony brand in the console market. Nor does inferior hardware to the PS3 really matter; the PS1 and PS2 were inferior to their counterparts, yet they trounced them.

The only other variable is a late start and obviously that's not going to apply here.

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

OhSnapitz

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

How is that /thread? theres no proof to what he said ..

1.get rid of the core

2.360 premuims for 250 bucks

3.elite 300 bucks

4.hd dvd players for 100 bucks

5.20 gig hd 50 bucks

6.120 gig hd 100 bucks

7. fix the rrod

8. when hdtvs come down more in price

thats when sales will pick up. well prolly double up lol

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

Meu2k7

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

How is that /thread? theres no proof to what he said ..

Dude.. the problem with the 360 *and the PS3* are that they're too expensive... I know a bunch of people (gamers and non) who are considering picking up "the next xbox" as they put it, but aren't willing to shell out $400. That's not the casual consumer price point. The 360 has the software now all it needs is a lower price point.

White the question is "when will 360 sales begin to pick up drastically", many people are taking it as "what does the 360 need to do to make you want to buy it" or "what will make the 360 great".

Honestly (and unfortunately) they aren't the same answer. While more informed gamers exist, gaming is already dominated by a mainstream culture which would probably struggle in identifying the abbrevation CPU. What many of us would logically do would probably not move units quickly.

You realize how many kids and parents out there are salivating for a 360 to get to that $199.00 price point.

Heck in another 2 years when it hit that $149.00 point and Sony is most likely still at 300$ The 360 will be causing riots at your local bestbuys to get one.

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

mjarantilla

The holidays look to hold very aggressive sales for the 360, due to pricing, software and online.

I don't know where you came to the conclusion that 360 fans are also pc fans. Not ONE of any of the friends (myself included) played on pc before the xbox.

it's why we like the xbox and 360..they're CONSOLES....

no wonder you don't see the 360 having a chance..if i saw things the way you did, i wouldn't either...

[QUOTE="HappySunnGuy"]I stopped reading at best conroller. It actually is the worst controller this gen. It feels stupid in my hands, and i have extremely generic hands (aside from my slightly longer than normal fingers). the buttons are placed badly, the analogs are placed badly, the B triggers are just plain annoying to use... the only redeeming thing about them is the triggers that don't suck, trhe normal tirrgers, and thats only because they are shaped well. The 360 controller just plain sucks, IMO.Meu2k7

I agree, the controller is crap, I actually found the PS2 controller easier/smoother for FPS games ... in Halo you have to take your finger off FIRE just to MELEE ... or something similar ... you HAVE to sacrifice something ... cant have a fluid movement ... its bad.

You pull the triggers to shoot and throw grenades so no, you dont have to tae a finger away from shooting.. and even if it were like that those are just control options to switch not the controller

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

OhSnapitz

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

Really? /thread? Care to explain why PS2 sold 15-25 million before the $199 price drop? Why isn't the Xbox360 doing this?

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

Ytsuhs

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

Really? /thread? Care to explain why PS2 sold 15-25 million before the $199 price drop? Why isn't the Xbox360 doing this?

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

Ytsuhs

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

Really? /thread? Care to explain why PS2 sold 15-25 million before the $199 price drop? Why isn't the Xbox360 doing this?

I'd say it'd have something to do with the PS2 enjoying international support, while the 360 basically relies on the USA, Britain and Australiasia. By 2002 when the price drop came around nearly 25% of PS2 sales came from Japan and 33% from Europe.

That and the PS2 didn't need to compete with the PS1, whereas the 360 did need to compete with the PS2.

Regardless, after that vicious 2002 console price war, PS2s began to fly off shelves.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

Ytsuhs

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

Really? /thread? Care to explain why PS2 sold 15-25 million before the $199 price drop? Why isn't the Xbox360 doing this?

PS2 was never above $300.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

Ytsuhs

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

Really? /thread? Care to explain why PS2 sold 15-25 million before the $199 price drop? Why isn't the Xbox360 doing this?

Ahhhh jeeezzzzzzz ok first of all PS2 was never more then $300 so it was a quick adaption to the gaming public. And let me just say AGAIN GTAIII

[QUOTE="Ytsuhs"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

Fuzzy_Munch

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

Really? /thread? Care to explain why PS2 sold 15-25 million before the $199 price drop? Why isn't the Xbox360 doing this?

Ahhhh jeeezzzzzzz ok first of all PS2 was never more then $300 so it was a quick adaption to the gaming public. And let me just say AGAIN GTAIII

Ahhhh jeeezzzzzzz ok first of all PS2 was never more then $300 so it was a quick adaption to the gaming public. And let me just say AGAIN GTAIII

Fuzzy_Munch

Sure, I think 360 will sell alot when it does reach $199, but not like the PS2. Let's be honest here. 1 game well not carry a console. The trump card for Xbox360 was played early, let's see how can they win this war by doing that.

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]Ahhhh jeeezzzzzzz ok first of all PS2 was never more then $300 so it was a quick adaption to the gaming public. And let me just say AGAIN GTAIII

Ytsuhs

Sure, I think 360 will sell alot when it does reach $199, but not like the PS2. Let's be honest here. 1 game well not carry a console. The trump card for Xbox360 was played early, let's see how can they win this war by doing that.

If the 360 only has one game, then I guess the PS3 and Wii have no games.

[QUOTE="Ytsuhs"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]Ahhhh jeeezzzzzzz ok first of all PS2 was never more then $300 so it was a quick adaption to the gaming public. And let me just say AGAIN GTAIII

RonnieLottinSF

Sure, I think 360 will sell alot when it does reach $199, but not like the PS2. Let's be honest here. 1 game well not carry a console. The trump card for Xbox360 was played early, let's see how can they win this war by doing that.

If the 360 only has one game, then I guess the PS3 and Wii have no games.

Gears of War, Halo, Mass Effect (its the real KOTOR 2), Fable, Ninja Gaiden, are all strong franchises. Even alot of the multiplats are boosting the 360, like Bioshock, Call of Duty and Oblivion.

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

mjarantilla

Uh, the PS2 didnt really sell like that until it hit the $200 price mark. The same can happen when 360 hits the $200, the Wii is selling because of the low price (it sure aint the games!)

Hopefully never. Microsoft has a history of exploiting consumers, and the last thing gamers hsould want is to see Microsoft in control of the console gaming market.osirisomeomi

How is Sony better?

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

OhSnapitz

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

The PS2 sold exceedingly well even in the $250-300 price range. Your point = fail.

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]Ahhhh jeeezzzzzzz ok first of all PS2 was never more then $300 so it was a quick adaption to the gaming public. And let me just say AGAIN GTAIII

Ytsuhs

Sure, I think 360 will sell alot when it does reach $199, but not like the PS2. Let's be honest here. 1 game well not carry a console. The trump card for Xbox360 was played early, let's see how can they win this war by doing that.

the high attach software ratios prove there is MUCH more play on the 360 than ONE game...

try again...:roll:

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

mjarantilla

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

The PS2 sold exceedingly well even in the $250-300 price range. Your point = fail.

how many? i remember sony had a massive production shortage when the ps2 was at that price range...

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

tango90101

The holidays look to hold very aggressive sales for the 360, due to pricing, software and online.

I don't know where you came to the conclusion that 360 fans are also pc fans. Not ONE of any of the friends (myself included) played on pc before the xbox.

it's why we like the xbox and 360..they're CONSOLES....

no wonder you don't see the 360 having a chance..if i saw things the way you did, i wouldn't either...

I dont even see why PCs are considered in this CONSOLE war?!?

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

Franco-J

Uh, the PS2 didnt really sell like that until it hit the $200 price mark. The same can happen when 360 hits the $200, the Wii is selling because of the low price (it sure aint the games!)

Really? Then why were over 15 million PS2s sold in the first two years alone in the US? Why didn't the original Xbox sell at $200? Or the GameCube?

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2®1=America&cons2=PS3®2=America&cons3=X360®3=America

Look at that slope. It's a perfectly constant rise over the entire lifetime of the PS2. That means that it sold at exactly the same rate (more or less) before AND after its price drop, with visible spurts during the holiday seasons. The notion that the PS2 experienced an "explosion" of sales after its price drop is a complete myth.

How a console does in the beginning of the generation is pretty much how it will do throughout its lifetime. That's been a fact for over twenty years, since at least the NES. The only exception has been the Dreamcast, which did REALLY well in its first year, only to fail.

Never, it's chance was when it first came out, but with all the systems out, the 360 doesn't really have anything to show now that Halo 3 is out. Expect one for the PS3 though.Rhaxdric

Right, with over 50 AA titles and 10 + AAA's, 360 doesnt have anything besides Halo 3 :roll: And you talk about "it had its chance when it first came out", well PS3 came out and isnt doing spectacular at all with all the hype you Sony sheeple built around it. I guess that means the PS3 is even worse off!:lol:

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Expect never. You'll occasionally see Microsoft-marketed games like Oblivion, Gears, and Halo 3 causing sales spikes every now and then, but after two years of steady 200k/month sales, I've kinda lost hope in the 360 taking off the way the PS2 did.

Probably one of the biggest reasons is that the 360 shares so much of its target audience with PC gaming, and there are probably as many if not more PC gamers out there with rigs as powerful or more powerful than the 360. There's no real reason for them to switch over.

tango90101

WRONG when 360 cost goes to $199 it will sell like CRAZY just like the PS2 did when it got down to the $149-199 range.

/thread.

The PS2 sold exceedingly well even in the $250-300 price range. Your point = fail.

how many? i remember sony had a massive production shortage when the ps2 was at that price range...

The PS2 has sold consistently 7-8 million EACH YEAR in the United States for seven years:

EOY 2001: 7.7 million

EOY 2002: 17.7 million

EOY 2003: 25.3 million

EOY 2004: 30.7 million

EOY 2005: 37 million

EOY 2006: 42.4 million