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#51  Edited By AzatiS
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@kingtito said:
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Well , after the megaflop of HALO 5 ... I think X1 is doomed. It was the only mega game that could push sales ...

Well done MS and lems. Last chance = Gears. Lets see

Wouldn't a megaflop be something like a 5 or 6 ala 5club or the Order? How is an 8 a megaflop? The hype was a 9 and it received an 8 with an average of 85 on MC. AS far as reactions it's far from the megaflop you're saying BUT....if you want to talk about megaflops, nothing will touch TLOU and the cows reactions.

Petitions, death threats...need I say more.

Nope ... Not even close to what HALO 5 represents for X1.

You comparing 2 new IPs with not so much of a hype behind them overall with a game that defines X1 brand and everyone hyped it as AAA ? Come on now

You have NO idea what you're talking about. You're claiming it's a megaflop because it scored an 8 on GS while the hype was a 9. It's absolutely ridiculous claim and something a fanboy would say. Megaflop was the highly and I mean highly hyped up TLOU. You and your fellow cows were expecting a 10 and were soooooooo upset because it score an 8 here.

So much so that death threats from cows all over the world and promises to leave GS for ever. The Order has so much hype up until just before launch. That's when people started to realize what a piss poor all style no substance game it was going to be.

H5 might have flopped but it's far from a megaflop but what ever helps you sleep at night cow.

48%(135 or so) is everyone? Forget the AAAA since those are probably cows like you trying to over hype the game. Sorry cow but you're blind since not everyone voted AAA. You need to learn what a megaflop is. I'll give you a hint.....search the TLOU threads.....MEGAFLOP cow

Its a megaflop considering is an 8 while its being HALO , the biggest , most popular , most established excusive series for X1. Its not any exclusive that flopped. Besides that , how is possible to not be considered a flop when you saying it was hyped a 9 ?

Only fanboys would say it didnt flop instead. Its a MEGAFLOP , not just a flop. It was the one and only game every lem was waiting for like no other for X1. The one game that will change how things currently are , X1 losing badly vs PS4 that is. The game that will push sales worldwide. The game that will make all fans go out there and buy an X1. THAT my friend, is a MEGAFLOP.

Dont get mad , its the truth. And when you comparing A flop of Halo caliber with Driveclub and The order ... just shows if youre a fanboy or not. Ill let your damage control speak for itself. In fact , its amusing.

Oh and again you comparing a NEW IP , AAA caliber title with HALO 5 , an already established serie with millions of fans worldwide , hype and anticipation behind it , epic marketing while its the biggest game X1 can offer to its fans ! You just powning yourself , i have nothing more to add.

Now go vote a 10 some PS4 games like you did before to see them flop ( i think you did that for Driveclub or The order too and i mentioned that on that thread , i can find it if you want ) , i voted Halo 5 an 8 and i was on the freaking spot , once again. Im the fanboy ? I dont think so ?

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#52 kingtito
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@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

You have NO idea what you're talking about. You're claiming it's a megaflop because it scored an 8 on GS while the hype was a 9. It's absolutely ridiculous claim and something a fanboy would say. Megaflop was the highly and I mean highly hyped up TLOU. You and your fellow cows were expecting a 10 and were soooooooo upset because it score an 8 here.

So much so that death threats from cows all over the world and promises to leave GS for ever. The Order has so much hype up until just before launch. That's when people started to realize what a piss poor all style no substance game it was going to be.

H5 might have flopped but it's far from a megaflop but what ever helps you sleep at night cow.

48%(135 or so) is everyone? Forget the AAAA since those are probably cows like you trying to over hype the game. Sorry cow but you're blind since not everyone voted AAA. You need to learn what a megaflop is. I'll give you a hint.....search the TLOU threads.....MEGAFLOP cow

Its a megaflop considering is an 8 while its being HALO , the biggest , most popular , most established excusive series for X1. Its not any exclusive that flopped. Besides that , how is possible to not be considered a flop when you saying it was hyped a 9 ?

Only fanboys would say it didnt flop instead. Its a MEGAFLOP , not just a flop. It was the one and only game every lem was waiting for like no other for X1. The one game that will change how things currently are , X1 losing badly. The game that will push sales worldwide. The game that will make all fans go out there and buy an X1. THAT my friend, is a MEGAFLOP.

Dont get mad , its the truth. And when you comparing A flop of Halo caliber with Driveclub and The order ... just shows if youre a fanboy or not. Ill let your damage control speak for itself. In fact , its amusing.

Nope, it's would be a megaflop if it scored a 5 or 6 or was hyped as a 10 but it wasn't. It's only a megaflop in fanboys minds like yourself. I fail to see how the GS score means it's a failure. As I said, only a delusional fanboy would say something like that.

Reading comprehension. I admitted it flopped.

Again you're a cow so you're biased and are prone to making asinine statements with regards to anything MS. You're proving my case.

It may push sales WW and fail to see how GSs score effects that, especially when lots of other sites gave the game a 9. Like I said, you're a fanboy and your opinion is pretty much shit.

Don't be mad because YOU can't play such a great game and yes it's great. How do I know, because I'm playing it.

I also compared to to TLOU, your fellow cows holy grail of games. THAT was a megaflop.

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#53  Edited By AzatiS
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@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

You have NO idea what you're talking about. You're claiming it's a megaflop because it scored an 8 on GS while the hype was a 9. It's absolutely ridiculous claim and something a fanboy would say. Megaflop was the highly and I mean highly hyped up TLOU. You and your fellow cows were expecting a 10 and were soooooooo upset because it score an 8 here.

So much so that death threats from cows all over the world and promises to leave GS for ever. The Order has so much hype up until just before launch. That's when people started to realize what a piss poor all style no substance game it was going to be.

H5 might have flopped but it's far from a megaflop but what ever helps you sleep at night cow.

48%(135 or so) is everyone? Forget the AAAA since those are probably cows like you trying to over hype the game. Sorry cow but you're blind since not everyone voted AAA. You need to learn what a megaflop is. I'll give you a hint.....search the TLOU threads.....MEGAFLOP cow

Its a megaflop considering is an 8 while its being HALO , the biggest , most popular , most established excusive series for X1. Its not any exclusive that flopped. Besides that , how is possible to not be considered a flop when you saying it was hyped a 9 ?

Only fanboys would say it didnt flop instead. Its a MEGAFLOP , not just a flop. It was the one and only game every lem was waiting for like no other for X1. The one game that will change how things currently are , X1 losing badly. The game that will push sales worldwide. The game that will make all fans go out there and buy an X1. THAT my friend, is a MEGAFLOP.

Dont get mad , its the truth. And when you comparing A flop of Halo caliber with Driveclub and The order ... just shows if youre a fanboy or not. Ill let your damage control speak for itself. In fact , its amusing.

Nope, it's would be a megaflop if it scored a 5 or 6 or was hyped as a 10 but it wasn't. It's only a megaflop in fanboys minds like yourself. I fail to see how the GS score means it's a failure. As I said, only a delusional fanboy would say something like that.

Reading comprehension. I admitted it flopped.

Again you're a cow so you're biased and are prone to making asinine statements with regards to anything MS. You're proving my case.

It may push sales WW and fail to see how GSs score effects that, especially when lots of other sites gave the game a 9. Like I said, you're a fanboy and your opinion is pretty much shit.

Don't be mad because YOU can't play such a great game and yes it's great. How do I know, because I'm playing it.

I also compared to to TLOU, your fellow cows holy grail of games. THAT was a megaflop.

Read again my post , i edited.

MEGAFLOP is MEGAFLOP , you playing it or not. Comparing HALO 5 with a new IP , like its the only one , good for you.

Go now vote PS4 games a 10 like you did with some PS4 games before to see them flop ( i even replied when i saw lems including you hyping it for a 10 ) and dont try to play the fanboyistic debate with me. You have literally nothing to prove your claims when i got you on PS4 hype threads fake voting. I can make you cry all day long if you want , with proofs.

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Chose the wrong system? Sell it....simple.

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@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

Nope, it's would be a megaflop if it scored a 5 or 6 or was hyped as a 10 but it wasn't. It's only a megaflop in fanboys minds like yourself. I fail to see how the GS score means it's a failure. As I said, only a delusional fanboy would say something like that.

Reading comprehension. I admitted it flopped.

Again you're a cow so you're biased and are prone to making asinine statements with regards to anything MS. You're proving my case.

It may push sales WW and fail to see how GSs score effects that, especially when lots of other sites gave the game a 9. Like I said, you're a fanboy and your opinion is pretty much shit.

Don't be mad because YOU can't play such a great game and yes it's great. How do I know, because I'm playing it.

I also compared to to TLOU, your fellow cows holy grail of games. THAT was a megaflop.

Read again my post , i edited.

MEGAFLOP is MEGAFLOP , you playing it or not. Comparing HALO 5 with a new IP , like its the only one , good for you.

Go now vote PS4 games a 10 like you did with some PS4 games before to see them flop ( i even replied when i saw lems including you hyping it for a 10 ) and dont try to play the fanboyistic debate with me. You have literally nothing to prove your claims when i got you on PS4 hype threads fake voting. I can make you cry all day long if you want , with proofs.

But it's not a megaflop cow. It's a flop but hardly considered a megaflop just because YOU say it is.

I compared it to 2 very hyped games which they were. Hell weren't you and your fanboys talking about how Halo isn't what it used to be and how it's played it and not as popular. Doesn't work with what you're trying to claim now cow.

I haven't voted ANY PS4 games so no idea what you're talking about.

I hyped the game a 10? Show me proof cow or you're full of shit like I know you to be. So sad that you have to stoop to making up shit. Typical pathetic cow

Once again prove I did that? I've yet to vote 10 for ANY game much less any PS4 game. You're such a liar and so sad.

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#57 lundy86_4
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I don't particularly care about things like AAA, when i'm playing games like Halo 5 and having a blast. AAA is overrated, as it's literally the difference of a point (if not less depending on the grading scale used).

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#58  Edited By Skelly34
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@Ant_17 said:

Really glad the PS4 can bring lems and herms together.

I am too.

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MS?

your last triple AAA high budget exclusive game was almost 24 months ago, almost a whopping 730 days ago and it was just a racer.

if you really want to sell me a xbox one you need to do a better job, so far your box has been a joke.

clearly tis topic will be closed, because this has no discussion content only facts and facts can't be discussed.

the no games winner is xbox one, what goes around comes around

/sad

The PS4 has Bloodborne and............................................................................. that's about it.

So yeah, where are all the AAAE games? Not many this generation so far. Reminds me of the PS3 which took 2 years to get it's first AAAE (MGS4).

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#61 blackace
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@MonsieurX said:
@Heil68 said:

That's a risk you take when you HYPE something AAA on LOCK, then it AA FLOPS.

Falo5 is still fun by golly.

But TLOU

Yeah, The Last of Us FLOPPED here as well. So did The Order 1886, FlopClub & FlopZone: SF. Both consoles have had their fair share of flops. No real surprises.

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I've gotten my monies worth the last two years, and there's plenty of AAA exclusives, it just depends if you wanna look past certain shyt.

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So basically TC is a mad Cow disease crying butthurt because he's insecure about himself and his PS4 purchase (like most cow here) and needs to reassure himself to boost his severely low esteem.

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DC is high class

bb bb bbut you dont mean score

LAL

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#68  Edited By AzatiS
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@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

Nope, it's would be a megaflop if it scored a 5 or 6 or was hyped as a 10 but it wasn't. It's only a megaflop in fanboys minds like yourself. I fail to see how the GS score means it's a failure. As I said, only a delusional fanboy would say something like that.

Reading comprehension. I admitted it flopped.

Again you're a cow so you're biased and are prone to making asinine statements with regards to anything MS. You're proving my case.

It may push sales WW and fail to see how GSs score effects that, especially when lots of other sites gave the game a 9. Like I said, you're a fanboy and your opinion is pretty much shit.

Don't be mad because YOU can't play such a great game and yes it's great. How do I know, because I'm playing it.

I also compared to to TLOU, your fellow cows holy grail of games. THAT was a megaflop.

Read again my post , i edited.

MEGAFLOP is MEGAFLOP , you playing it or not. Comparing HALO 5 with a new IP , like its the only one , good for you.

Go now vote PS4 games a 10 like you did with some PS4 games before to see them flop ( i even replied when i saw lems including you hyping it for a 10 ) and dont try to play the fanboyistic debate with me. You have literally nothing to prove your claims when i got you on PS4 hype threads fake voting. I can make you cry all day long if you want , with proofs.

But it's not a megaflop cow. It's a flop but hardly considered a megaflop just because YOU say it is.

I compared it to 2 very hyped games which they were. Hell weren't you and your fanboys talking about how Halo isn't what it used to be and how it's played it and not as popular. Doesn't work with what you're trying to claim now cow.

I haven't voted ANY PS4 games so no idea what you're talking about.

I hyped the game a 10? Show me proof cow or you're full of shit like I know you to be. So sad that you have to stoop to making up shit. Typical pathetic cow

Once again prove I did that? I've yet to vote 10 for ANY game much less any PS4 game. You're such a liar and so sad.

First of all i apologize because you werent on the hype list i thought you were , when many lems were voting The order and Bloodborne as a 10 , we all know why. I would bet my life you were in there but you werent so i apologize.

As for my HALO 5 claims being a MEGAFLOP , it is the biggest flop MS could ever imagine for the reasons i mentioned especially at this specific time. If the word MEGA next to FLOP is what makes you feel that way and you getting mad about it because its undoubtbly a FLOP, you need to understand its a MEGAflop because its not a new ip , is not any title... its THE TITLE MS was hoping to turn around the current X1 situation .

Dont cry , face the facts

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Wow cows are boring.

Yes Halo 5 flopped but still better then all PS4 exclusive FPS

Forza flopped but still better then all PS4 driving games.

XBO big flops MCC 6 Halo 8 forza 8, now lets have a look at the PS4 big flops KZ:SF 7, Driveclub 5, The order 5, uncharted 8, LBP 3 7 doesnt really compare, and the fact the both only have 1AAAE says alot about both systems

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@blackace said:
@MonsieurX said:
@Heil68 said:

That's a risk you take when you HYPE something AAA on LOCK, then it AA FLOPS.

Falo5 is still fun by golly.

But TLOU

Yeah, The Last of Us FLOPPED here as well. So did The Order 1886, FlopClub & FlopZone: SF. Both consoles have had their fair share of flops. No real surprises.

Dont forget MCC flopped all 4 halo games, then HALO 5 was AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP.

No HYPE for Forza 6, lems knew it wouldn't be AAA, got AA

LAst gears,

ect ect

You forgot those somehow,

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@lglz1337 said:

DC is high class

bb bb bbut you dont mean score

LAL

Major flop since it scored 5

top kek

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#75  Edited By clone01
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@lglz1337 said:

MS?

your last triple AAA "score for the DClems" high budget exclusive game was almost 24 months ago, almost a whopping 730 days ago and it was just a racer.

if you really want to sell me a xbox one you need to do a better job, so far your box has been a joke.

clearly tis topic will be closed, because this has no discussion content only facts and facts can't be discussed.

the no games winner is xbox one, what goes around comes around

/sad

You're not going to buy one anyway. Why do you care so much?

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@Legend002 said:
@cinematicgalore said:

Dark Souls 3 is Bloodborne basically, they're reusing the same assets. Not exclusive, cows.

Red Dead is a reskin of GTA. QB is a reskin of Max Payne. Fallout is a reskin of TES. Halo is a reskin of CoD The list goes on.

halo cod shots fired everyone :p

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But it's not a megaflop cow. It's a flop but hardly considered a megaflop just because YOU say it is.

I compared it to 2 very hyped games which they were. Hell weren't you and your fanboys talking about how Halo isn't what it used to be and how it's played it and not as popular. Doesn't work with what you're trying to claim now cow.

I haven't voted ANY PS4 games so no idea what you're talking about.

I hyped the game a 10? Show me proof cow or you're full of shit like I know you to be. So sad that you have to stoop to making up shit. Typical pathetic cow

Once again prove I did that? I've yet to vote 10 for ANY game much less any PS4 game. You're such a liar and so sad.

First of all i apologize because you werent on the hype list i thought you were , when many lems were voting The order and Bloodborne as a 10 , we all know why. I would bet my life you were in there but you werent so i apologize.

As for my HALO 5 claims being a MEGAFLOP , it is the biggest flop MS could ever imagine for the reasons i mentioned especially at this specific time. If the word MEGA next to FLOP is what makes you feel that way and you getting mad about it because its undoubtbly a FLOP, you need to understand its a MEGAflop because its not a new ip , is not any title... its THE TITLE MS was hoping to turn around the current X1 situation .

Dont cry , face the facts

Well thank you for the apology. I don't over hype games and I wouldn't purposely try to skew hype scores.

Flops only pertain to SWs and not the real world. In the real world it's far from a flop from a scoring point of view since it's still at 85 on MC would is considered great. The ONLY way it would be considered a megaflop is if the sales are really bad and so far we don't have the sales numbers yet. I don't think it'll sell as well as the other Halos due to smaller install base as well as less enthusiasm for the X1 but it will sell millions.

You need to realize by SWs standards its not a megaflop. Doesn't matter if it's a new IP or an old one. Hyped at 9 and scores an 8 is NOT a megaflop. It's a flop for sure but far from mega. SWs =/= real world. MS isn't going to look at the GS score and say it's a megaflop. Only people that would use that term and think they're right are cows.

Learn what facts are before you make claims. Just because say something repeatedly doesn't make it one. I know cows have a hard time understanding that concept but at least put some effort into it.

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In all honesty, consoles hardly ever have AAA exclusives nowadays, gone are the days of the PS2, so what does it matter that XB1 doesn't have that many exclusives, neither does the PS4.

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@Heil68 said:
@blackace said:
@MonsieurX said:
@Heil68 said:

That's a risk you take when you HYPE something AAA on LOCK, then it AA FLOPS.

Falo5 is still fun by golly.

But TLOU

Yeah, The Last of Us FLOPPED here as well. So did The Order 1886, FlopClub & FlopZone: SF. Both consoles have had their fair share of flops. No real surprises.

Dont forget MCC flopped all 4 halo games, then HALO 5 was AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP.

No HYPE for Forza 6, lems knew it wouldn't be AAA, got AA

LAst gears,

ect ect

You forgot those somehow,

no hype for uncharted either...

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They've all been kidnapped, raped and murdered by the big three.

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#81  Edited By AzatiS
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@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:

But it's not a megaflop cow. It's a flop but hardly considered a megaflop just because YOU say it is.

I compared it to 2 very hyped games which they were. Hell weren't you and your fanboys talking about how Halo isn't what it used to be and how it's played it and not as popular. Doesn't work with what you're trying to claim now cow.

I haven't voted ANY PS4 games so no idea what you're talking about.

I hyped the game a 10? Show me proof cow or you're full of shit like I know you to be. So sad that you have to stoop to making up shit. Typical pathetic cow

Once again prove I did that? I've yet to vote 10 for ANY game much less any PS4 game. You're such a liar and so sad.

First of all i apologize because you werent on the hype list i thought you were , when many lems were voting The order and Bloodborne as a 10 , we all know why. I would bet my life you were in there but you werent so i apologize.

As for my HALO 5 claims being a MEGAFLOP , it is the biggest flop MS could ever imagine for the reasons i mentioned especially at this specific time. If the word MEGA next to FLOP is what makes you feel that way and you getting mad about it because its undoubtbly a FLOP, you need to understand its a MEGAflop because its not a new ip , is not any title... its THE TITLE MS was hoping to turn around the current X1 situation .

Dont cry , face the facts

Well thank you for the apology. I don't over hype games and I wouldn't purposely try to skew hype scores.

Flops only pertain to SWs and not the real world. In the real world it's far from a flop from a scoring point of view since it's still at 85 on MC would is considered great. The ONLY way it would be considered a megaflop is if the sales are really bad and so far we don't have the sales numbers yet. I don't think it'll sell as well as the other Halos due to smaller install base as well as less enthusiasm for the X1 but it will sell millions.

You need to realize by SWs standards its not a megaflop. Doesn't matter if it's a new IP or an old one. Hyped at 9 and scores an 8 is NOT a megaflop. It's a flop for sure but far from mega. SWs =/= real world. MS isn't going to look at the GS score and say it's a megaflop. Only people that would use that term and think they're right are cows.

Learn what facts are before you make claims. Just because say something repeatedly doesn't make it one. I know cows have a hard time understanding that concept but at least put some effort into it.

You dont understand why im calling HALO 5 a megaflop and not just a flop. So lets move on i guess , you got your opinion and i got mine. Youll get my point when total sales of both HALO 5 and X1s get a reveal in the next 2-3 months.

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Well thank you for the apology. I don't over hype games and I wouldn't purposely try to skew hype scores.

Flops only pertain to SWs and not the real world. In the real world it's far from a flop from a scoring point of view since it's still at 85 on MC would is considered great. The ONLY way it would be considered a megaflop is if the sales are really bad and so far we don't have the sales numbers yet. I don't think it'll sell as well as the other Halos due to smaller install base as well as less enthusiasm for the X1 but it will sell millions.

You need to realize by SWs standards its not a megaflop. Doesn't matter if it's a new IP or an old one. Hyped at 9 and scores an 8 is NOT a megaflop. It's a flop for sure but far from mega. SWs =/= real world. MS isn't going to look at the GS score and say it's a megaflop. Only people that would use that term and think they're right are cows.

Learn what facts are before you make claims. Just because say something repeatedly doesn't make it one. I know cows have a hard time understanding that concept but at least put some effort into it.

You dont understand why im calling HALO 5 a megaflop and not just a flop. So lets move on i guess , you got your opinion and i got mine. Youll get my point when total sales of both HALO 5 and X1s get a reveal in the next 2-3 months.

How could it be a megaflop if we don't have the sales figures yet? Are you moving the goal post and now claiming its a megaflop because of sales and not the score? How would you know without hard sales numbers?

Face it, the ONLY reason you're calling it a megaflop is because you don't like the X1 or Halo for that matter. If it were a Sony exclusive I'm pretty sure you'd be singing a different tune.

Yes, let's move on. This will just go around in circles with neither side agreeing

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@Heil68 said:
@blackace said:
@MonsieurX said:
@Heil68 said:

That's a risk you take when you HYPE something AAA on LOCK, then it AA FLOPS.

Falo5 is still fun by golly.

But TLOU

Yeah, The Last of Us FLOPPED here as well. So did The Order 1886, FlopClub & FlopZone: SF. Both consoles have had their fair share of flops. No real surprises.

Dont forget MCC flopped all 4 halo games, then HALO 5 was AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP.

No HYPE for Forza 6, lems knew it wouldn't be AAA, got AA

LAst gears,

ect ect

You forgot those somehow

I didn't forget those. They flopped here only. Now go and check Metacritics scores for these flops and compare them to the PS4 flops. Which games have higher scores. lol!! PS4 games flopped harder overall. GS flops are a joke anyway. They even flopped TLOU and it has a 95 rating on Metacritics. LMAO!! So do we really care much about FLOPS on GS? I don't think so. Just something to talk about and laugh over.

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@blackace said:
@Heil68 said:
@blackace said:
@MonsieurX said:
@Heil68 said:

That's a risk you take when you HYPE something AAA on LOCK, then it AA FLOPS.

Falo5 is still fun by golly.

But TLOU

Yeah, The Last of Us FLOPPED here as well. So did The Order 1886, FlopClub & FlopZone: SF. Both consoles have had their fair share of flops. No real surprises.

Dont forget MCC flopped all 4 halo games, then HALO 5 was AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP.

No HYPE for Forza 6, lems knew it wouldn't be AAA, got AA

LAst gears,

ect ect

You forgot those somehow

I didn't forget those. They flopped here only. Now go and check Metacritics scores for these flops and compare them to the PS4 flops. Which games have higher scores. lol!! PS4 games flopped harder overall. GS flops are a joke anyway. They even flopped TLOU and it has a 95 rating on Metacritics. LMAO!! So do we really care much about FLOPS on GS? I don't think so. Just something to talk about and laugh over.

Dont seem like you're accepting the FLOP that is Flao5????

You must accept so the healing can begin yes.

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@AzatiS said:

Well thank you for the apology. I don't over hype games and I wouldn't purposely try to skew hype scores.

Flops only pertain to SWs and not the real world. In the real world it's far from a flop from a scoring point of view since it's still at 85 on MC would is considered great. The ONLY way it would be considered a megaflop is if the sales are really bad and so far we don't have the sales numbers yet. I don't think it'll sell as well as the other Halos due to smaller install base as well as less enthusiasm for the X1 but it will sell millions.

You need to realize by SWs standards its not a megaflop. Doesn't matter if it's a new IP or an old one. Hyped at 9 and scores an 8 is NOT a megaflop. It's a flop for sure but far from mega. SWs =/= real world. MS isn't going to look at the GS score and say it's a megaflop. Only people that would use that term and think they're right are cows.

Learn what facts are before you make claims. Just because say something repeatedly doesn't make it one. I know cows have a hard time understanding that concept but at least put some effort into it.

You dont understand why im calling HALO 5 a megaflop and not just a flop. So lets move on i guess , you got your opinion and i got mine. Youll get my point when total sales of both HALO 5 and X1s get a reveal in the next 2-3 months.

How could it be a megaflop if we don't have the sales figures yet? Are you moving the goal post and now claiming its a megaflop because of sales and not the score? How would you know without hard sales numbers?

Face it, the ONLY reason you're calling it a megaflop is because you don't like the X1 or Halo for that matter. If it were a Sony exclusive I'm pretty sure you'd be singing a different tune.

Yes, let's move on. This will just go around in circles with neither side agreeing

It is a megaflop , the AAAA/AAA title every single lem was waiting for ! The one and only game that supossed defines Xbox brand 3 generations now . The Behemoth game of Xbox. The synonym of Xbox to be precise.. Failed ! What else to discuss here about this flop being MEGA or not ? Everything else is QQ

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@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

How could it be a megaflop if we don't have the sales figures yet? Are you moving the goal post and now claiming its a megaflop because of sales and not the score? How would you know without hard sales numbers?

Face it, the ONLY reason you're calling it a megaflop is because you don't like the X1 or Halo for that matter. If it were a Sony exclusive I'm pretty sure you'd be singing a different tune.

Yes, let's move on. This will just go around in circles with neither side agreeing

It is a megaflop , the AAAA/AAA title every single lem was waiting for ! The one and only game that supossed defines Xbox brand 3 generations now . The synonym of Xbox. Failed ! What else to discuss here about this flop being MEGA or not ? Everything else is QQ

So we're back to megaflop because of score? Weren't you just trying to tell me to wait total sales are out in 2 - 3 months? Hahahaha make up your mind cow. Oh and as I've already said, repeating something doesn't make it a fact.

Not a single Halo game has been a 10 so trying to say all lems were waiting for a 10 Halo is a flat out lie. Lems want a good Halo game and Halo 5 did not disappoint. You making the claim it's a megaflop is pure fanboyism on your part. It's the cow in you, you just can't help it.

So now it's only 1 game that defines the Xbox brand? According to cows, it's Halo, Gears and Forza. Wish you'd cows would make up your mind.

Like I said, it flopped on GS but in the real world, hardly. It wouldn't even be considered a megaflop by SWs standards. You're moving goal post and back tracking to try and prove your point. FAAAAAIIIILLLLLLL amigo.

There is no discussion. It's not a megaflop just because YOU say it is.

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@Heil68 said:

That's a risk you take when you HYPE something AAA on LOCK, then it AA FLOPS.

Falo5 is still fun by golly.

Still mad about TLOU I see.

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@speedfog said:
@Heil68 said:

That's a risk you take when you HYPE something AAA on LOCK, then it AA FLOPS.

Falo5 is still fun by golly.

Still mad about TLOU I see.

Nope, I accepted the FLOP on the first day so the healing can begin.

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MS?

your last triple AAA "score for the DClems" high budget exclusive game was almost 24 months ago, almost a whopping 730 days ago and it was just a racer.

if you really want to sell me a xbox one you need to do a better job, so far your box has been a joke.

clearly tis topic will be closed, because this has no discussion content only facts and facts can't be discussed.

the no games winner is xbox one, what goes around comes around

/sad

So you only buy consoles based mostly on GS scores at a time when no one really trusts them.

I mean GS have been inconsistent lately and the cows jumped ship a long time ago to metacritic because GS kept flopping their games. Not to mention GS has been floping most early PS4 exclusives left, right and center.

I may be missing one, but isn't the PS4s hightest rated exclusives here are Infamous and Bloodbourne.

So what console have you been buying?

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@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

How could it be a megaflop if we don't have the sales figures yet? Are you moving the goal post and now claiming its a megaflop because of sales and not the score? How would you know without hard sales numbers?

Face it, the ONLY reason you're calling it a megaflop is because you don't like the X1 or Halo for that matter. If it were a Sony exclusive I'm pretty sure you'd be singing a different tune.

Yes, let's move on. This will just go around in circles with neither side agreeing

It is a megaflop , the AAAA/AAA title every single lem was waiting for ! The one and only game that supossed defines Xbox brand 3 generations now . The synonym of Xbox. Failed ! What else to discuss here about this flop being MEGA or not ? Everything else is QQ

So we're back to megaflop because of score? Weren't you just trying to tell me to wait total sales are out in 2 - 3 months? Hahahaha make up your mind cow. Oh and as I've already said, repeating something doesn't make it a fact.

Not a single Halo game has been a 10 so trying to say all lems were waiting for a 10 Halo is a flat out lie. Lems want a good Halo game and Halo 5 did not disappoint. You making the claim it's a megaflop is pure fanboyism on your part. It's the cow in you, you just can't help it.

So now it's only 1 game that defines the Xbox brand? According to cows, it's Halo, Gears and Forza. Wish you'd cows would make up your mind.

Like I said, it flopped on GS but in the real world, hardly. It wouldn't even be considered a megaflop by SWs standards. You're moving goal post and back tracking to try and prove your point. FAAAAAIIIILLLLLLL amigo.

There is no discussion. It's not a megaflop just because YOU say it is.

We are back to why i beleive is megaflop from the very start , period. If you are that butthurt about MEGA next to FLOP , is your problem.

When sales get a reveal we gonna talk again , and be ready all im saying ( even if already markets stating HALO 5 did the worse opening ever for the series in UK ) .. We gonna see whos the fanboy and whos not then and why i consider HALO 5 a megaflop rather than just a flop. Everything else is irrelevant

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@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

We are back to why i beleive is megaflop from the very start , period. If you are that butthurt about MEGA next to FLOP , is your problem.

When sales get a reveal we gonna talk again , and be ready all i msaying

Yeah, you're flip flopping between sales, and scores. If it's scores then you're way way way off base. Sales, we won't know till official numbers come out.

Why? Have I said anything about sales? Why would I want to talk to you about sales of H5 or the X1? I've made ZERO predictions either way.

You keep flip flopping and moving goal post and I'll continue to dispute your ridiculous claims.

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@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

We are back to why i beleive is megaflop from the very start , period. If you are that butthurt about MEGA next to FLOP , is your problem.

When sales get a reveal we gonna talk again , and be ready all i msaying

Yeah, you're flip flopping between sales, and scores. If it's scores then you're way way way off base. Sales, we won't know till official numbers come out.

Why? Have I said anything about sales? Why would I want to talk to you about sales of H5 or the X1? I've made ZERO predictions either way.

You keep flip flopping and moving goal post and I'll continue to dispute your ridiculous claims.

Im not flopping at all , thats my opinion. MEGAFLOP for too many reasons aside the score ( which score also was floppie floppo flop. Youll see , i quoted every single BS you said and we gonna talk with facts soon. Be ready fanboy if you think im flip flopping , be ready because facts are coming ( the first 2 , score and the lowest opening sales of the series in UK are facts already , lets see whats next )

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@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

We are back to why i beleive is megaflop from the very start , period. If you are that butthurt about MEGA next to FLOP , is your problem.

When sales get a reveal we gonna talk again , and be ready all i msaying

Yeah, you're flip flopping between sales, and scores. If it's scores then you're way way way off base. Sales, we won't know till official numbers come out.

Why? Have I said anything about sales? Why would I want to talk to you about sales of H5 or the X1? I've made ZERO predictions either way.

You keep flip flopping and moving goal post and I'll continue to dispute your ridiculous claims.

Im not flopping at all , thats my opinion. MEGAFLOP for too many reasons aside the score ( which score also was floppie floppo flop. Youll see , i quoted every single BS you said and we gonna talk with facts soon. Be ready fanboy if you think im flip flopping , be ready because facts are coming ( the first 2 , score and the lowest opening sales of the series in UK are facts already , lets see whats next )

Quote away cow, I already admitted it flopped. I never denied it. It is the SWs game after all but no where in SWs did I say anything about sales. So quote till your hearts content, it won't do anything for you or to me amigo.

Oh no cow. It's not what I think, it's what you're doing. You said it's a megaflop because of the GS score. Then you turned around and tried to claim sales was the reason for the megaflop. I've already explained by SWs standards there is no way it could be a megaflop because of the GS score. I never mentioned sales sooooooooooo yeah you have no ammo there.

Yet still debuted at #1 go figure.

Face it fanboy, you failed.

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@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:

We are back to why i beleive is megaflop from the very start , period. If you are that butthurt about MEGA next to FLOP , is your problem.

When sales get a reveal we gonna talk again , and be ready all i msaying

Yeah, you're flip flopping between sales, and scores. If it's scores then you're way way way off base. Sales, we won't know till official numbers come out.

Why? Have I said anything about sales? Why would I want to talk to you about sales of H5 or the X1? I've made ZERO predictions either way.

You keep flip flopping and moving goal post and I'll continue to dispute your ridiculous claims.

Im not flopping at all , thats my opinion. MEGAFLOP for too many reasons aside the score ( which score also was floppie floppo flop. Youll see , i quoted every single BS you said and we gonna talk with facts soon. Be ready fanboy if you think im flip flopping , be ready because facts are coming ( the first 2 , score and the lowest opening sales of the series in UK are facts already , lets see whats next )

Quote away cow, I already admitted it flopped. I never denied it. It is the SWs game after all but no where in SWs did I say anything about sales. So quote till your hearts content, it won't do anything for you or to me amigo.

Oh no cow. It's not what I think, it's what you're doing. You said it's a megaflop because of the GS score. Then you turned around and tried to claim sales was the reason for the megaflop. I've already explained by SWs standards there is no way it could be a megaflop because of the GS score. I never mentioned sales sooooooooooo yeah you have no ammo there.

Yet still debuted at #1 go figure.

Face it fanboy, you failed.

thats the difference between you and me. Im not a cow when you are a lem. Im stating facts here and nothing else.

Score wise , it flopped ! Sales wise will flop ( already does in region that was a super hot title , considering what MS expectations were and considering what sales of past games were also ) . Overall reception from fans , it flopped . And thats why i called it MEGA. Supposedly the title that will turn around the X1 current situation , AKA push X1 sales , it flopped.

So , face it fanboy , im talking only facts. Nothing more , nothing less. Dont let your fanboyism kick in that hard because of MEGA word next to flop. Game MEGAflopped when critics and most fans themselfs talking about the worst HALO ever. So , go play HALO 5 and let me have my opinion if game MEGAflopped or just flopped. Its pathetic to go into that rage , fanboyistic mode because someone calls a game MEGAflop instead of a flop ( when you admitting its a flop yourself )

Only die hard fanboys doing that and it seems you are one.

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@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

Quote away cow, I already admitted it flopped. I never denied it. It is the SWs game after all but no where in SWs did I say anything about sales. So quote till your hearts content, it won't do anything for you or to me amigo.

Oh no cow. It's not what I think, it's what you're doing. You said it's a megaflop because of the GS score. Then you turned around and tried to claim sales was the reason for the megaflop. I've already explained by SWs standards there is no way it could be a megaflop because of the GS score. I never mentioned sales sooooooooooo yeah you have no ammo there.

Yet still debuted at #1 go figure.

Face it fanboy, you failed.

thats the difference between you and me. Im not a cow when you are a lem. Im stating facts here and nothing else.

Score wise , it flopped ! Sales wise will flop ( already does in region that was a super hot title , considering what MS expectations were and considering what sales of past games were also ) . Overall reception from fans , it flopped . And thats why i called it MEGA. Supposedly the title that will turn around the X1 current situation , AKA push X1 sales , it flopped.

So , face it fanboy , im talking only facts. Nothing more , nothing less. Dont let your fanboyism kick in that hard because of MEGA word next to flop. Game MEGAflopped when critics and most fans themselfs talking about the worst HALO ever. So , go play HALO 5 and let me have my opinion if game MEGAflopped or just flopped. Its pathetic to go into that rage , fanboyistic mode because someone calls a game MEGAflop instead of a flop ( when you admitting its a flop yourself )

Only die hard fanboys doing that and it seems you are one.

You ARE a cow and you've yet to state facts other than it flopped to which I conceded. If you think what you stated were facts then perhaps you need to look up the definition of a fact.

Define what a sale flop will be? Selling less than H4? Selling less than 3m, 4m, 5m?

You don't know what MSs expectations were for sales so why are you trying to pass off speculation for facts? Again, you have ZERO hard sales numbers for either hard copies or digital.

Overall reception from fans? Seems to be pretty good to me, unless you're talking about all the complaints from fake fans and cows. So far NOTHING you've said is fact. Just a bunch of speculations.

According to whom is this game suppose to turn around the X1 sales? It doesn't need a turn around from a games point of view since it's arguably just as good as the PS4s library minus all the indie games. Again, more made up shit from cows.

Wrong cow, you're talking speculation and your wishes/hopes. No facts, just dreams.

Don't let your inner cow make up SWs definitions for what a megaflop is but cows will be cows.

HAhahahaha wow did you just pull that out of your ass? Worst Halo ever? What critics have been saying that liar? An 87 on MC and being called one of the best MP Halos in a long time say otherwise. Look cow, you don't have to lie to kick it ok. Don't run around making up shit. It just makes you look pathetic.

I have been playing and you just nailed it OPINION...your opinion not a fact. Glad you finally admitted to it. Case closed. Thanks for playing

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@kingtito said:
@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

Quote away cow, I already admitted it flopped. I never denied it. It is the SWs game after all but no where in SWs did I say anything about sales. So quote till your hearts content, it won't do anything for you or to me amigo.

Oh no cow. It's not what I think, it's what you're doing. You said it's a megaflop because of the GS score. Then you turned around and tried to claim sales was the reason for the megaflop. I've already explained by SWs standards there is no way it could be a megaflop because of the GS score. I never mentioned sales sooooooooooo yeah you have no ammo there.

Yet still debuted at #1 go figure.

Face it fanboy, you failed.

thats the difference between you and me. Im not a cow when you are a lem. Im stating facts here and nothing else.

Score wise , it flopped ! Sales wise will flop ( already does in region that was a super hot title , considering what MS expectations were and considering what sales of past games were also ) . Overall reception from fans , it flopped . And thats why i called it MEGA. Supposedly the title that will turn around the X1 current situation , AKA push X1 sales , it flopped.

So , face it fanboy , im talking only facts. Nothing more , nothing less. Dont let your fanboyism kick in that hard because of MEGA word next to flop. Game MEGAflopped when critics and most fans themselfs talking about the worst HALO ever. So , go play HALO 5 and let me have my opinion if game MEGAflopped or just flopped. Its pathetic to go into that rage , fanboyistic mode because someone calls a game MEGAflop instead of a flop ( when you admitting its a flop yourself )

Only die hard fanboys doing that and it seems you are one.

You ARE a cow and you've yet to state facts other than it flopped to which I conceded. If you think what you stated were facts then perhaps you need to look up the definition of a fact.

Define what a sale flop will be? Selling less than H4? Selling less than 3m, 4m, 5m?

You don't know what MSs expectations were for sales so why are you trying to pass off speculation for facts? Again, you have ZERO hard sales numbers for either hard copies or digital.

Overall reception from fans? Seems to be pretty good to me, unless you're talking about all the complaints from fake fans and cows. So far NOTHING you've said is fact. Just a bunch of speculations.

According to whom is this game suppose to turn around the X1 sales? It doesn't need a turn around from a games point of view since it's arguably just as good as the PS4s library minus all the indie games. Again, more made up shit from cows.

Wrong cow, you're talking speculation and your wishes/hopes. No facts, just dreams.

Don't let your inner cow make up SWs definitions for what a megaflop is but cows will be cows.

HAhahahaha wow did you just pull that out of your ass? Worst Halo ever? What critics have been saying that liar? An 87 on MC and being called one of the best MP Halos in a long time say otherwise. Look cow, you don't have to lie to kick it ok. Don't run around making up shit. It just makes you look pathetic.

I have been playing and you just nailed it OPINION...your opinion not a fact. Glad you finally admitted to it. Case closed. Thanks for playing

Yeah , im the cow because i speak the truth and every single claim im making can be backed up at 100% . Go play your megaflop and i dont give an F about cows and PS4 as well. I will speak the truth and facts as they are , crying or not ... here i come !! Pitiful fanboys getting so butthurt because someone calls a FLOP --- MEGAFLOP ( for many reasons other than score itself ) .. Damn , move on , go play HALO 5 and call it just a FLOP if that makes you feel better ! ... lol ...

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@AzatiS said:
@kingtito said:

According to whom is this game suppose to turn around the X1 sales? It doesn't need a turn around from a games point of view since it's arguably just as good as the PS4s library minus all the indie games. Again, more made up shit from cows.

Wrong cow, you're talking speculation and your wishes/hopes. No facts, just dreams.

Don't let your inner cow make up SWs definitions for what a megaflop is but cows will be cows.

HAhahahaha wow did you just pull that out of your ass? Worst Halo ever? What critics have been saying that liar? An 87 on MC and being called one of the best MP Halos in a long time say otherwise. Look cow, you don't have to lie to kick it ok. Don't run around making up shit. It just makes you look pathetic.

I have been playing and you just nailed it OPINION...your opinion not a fact. Glad you finally admitted to it. Case closed. Thanks for playing

Yeah , im the cow because i speak the truth and every single claim im making can be backed up at 100% . Go play your megaflop and i dont give an F about cows and PS4 as well , crying or not ... here i come !! Pitiful fanboys getting so butthurt because someone calls a FLOP --- MEGAFLOP ( for many reasons other than score itself ) .. Damn , move on , go play HALO 5 and call it just a FLOP if that makes you feel better ! ... lol ...

Cows don't speak truth though so that would fit right in with your cow status since you're not telling the truth about anything.

What claim? Sales? 1st page would speak differently. The only thing that can be backed up is the fact that it flopped in score. So far your sales prediction is falling but of course you'll probably flip flop about sales and flopping.

As I stated, I am playing it and you DO care about cows since you are one.

Butthurt? Hardly. I'm correcting an obviously false statement. You're just trying to embellish and make it out to be bigger than it actually is.

Perhaps you should move on since you continue to reply to me and are now crying about moving on.

I'll wait for your conversation about sales since you said would after sales figures come out. Something tells me that's not going to happen now.

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According to whom is this game suppose to turn around the X1 sales? It doesn't need a turn around from a games point of view since it's arguably just as good as the PS4s library minus all the indie games. Again, more made up shit from cows.

Wrong cow, you're talking speculation and your wishes/hopes. No facts, just dreams.

Don't let your inner cow make up SWs definitions for what a megaflop is but cows will be cows.

HAhahahaha wow did you just pull that out of your ass? Worst Halo ever? What critics have been saying that liar? An 87 on MC and being called one of the best MP Halos in a long time say otherwise. Look cow, you don't have to lie to kick it ok. Don't run around making up shit. It just makes you look pathetic.

I have been playing and you just nailed it OPINION...your opinion not a fact. Glad you finally admitted to it. Case closed. Thanks for playing

Yeah , im the cow because i speak the truth and every single claim im making can be backed up at 100% . Go play your megaflop and i dont give an F about cows and PS4 as well , crying or not ... here i come !! Pitiful fanboys getting so butthurt because someone calls a FLOP --- MEGAFLOP ( for many reasons other than score itself ) .. Damn , move on , go play HALO 5 and call it just a FLOP if that makes you feel better ! ... lol ...

Cows don't speak truth though so that would fit right in with your cow status since you're not telling the truth about anything.

What claim? Sales? 1st page would speak differently. The only thing that can be backed up is the fact that it flopped in score. So far your sales prediction is falling but of course you'll probably flip flop about sales and flopping.

As I stated, I am playing it and you DO care about cows since you are one.

Butthurt? Hardly. I'm correcting an obviously false statement. You're just trying to embellish and make it out to be bigger than it actually is.

Perhaps you should move on since you continue to reply to me and are now crying about moving on.

I'll wait for your conversation about sales since you said would after sales figures come out. Something tells me that's not going to happen now.

Tell that to cows

All claims combined. Yes sales ! You are such an MS sheep that you think 400 million in profits or whatever that number is = sales ? You falling into MS marketing propaganda sooooo easily ! Not that you dont want to ...You see , thats why we cant have a legit conversation/ Because you are a fanboy ! Its no use to talk further. Lets wait and see and well talk again , i assure you we will.

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@AzatiS said:
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Cows don't speak truth though so that would fit right in with your cow status since you're not telling the truth about anything.

What claim? Sales? 1st page would speak differently. The only thing that can be backed up is the fact that it flopped in score. So far your sales prediction is falling but of course you'll probably flip flop about sales and flopping.

As I stated, I am playing it and you DO care about cows since you are one.

Butthurt? Hardly. I'm correcting an obviously false statement. You're just trying to embellish and make it out to be bigger than it actually is.

Perhaps you should move on since you continue to reply to me and are now crying about moving on.

I'll wait for your conversation about sales since you said would after sales figures come out. Something tells me that's not going to happen now.

Tell that to cows

All claims combined. Yes sales ! You are such an MS sheep that you think 400 million in profits or whatever that number is = sales ? You falling into MS marketing propaganda sooooo easily ! Not that you dont want to ...You see , thats why we cant have a legit conversation/ Because you are a fanboy ! Its no use to talk further. Lets wait and see and well talk again , i assure you we will.

I did, YOU.

Wait, so you think a large chunk aren't from software sales? You think that's Microtransactions and hardware? So how many millions you think are Micro purchases? If a majority of that is hardware sales then wouldn't that go against what you cows are saying? Halo isn't a system seller anymore?

Let's say half of that $400m (200M) is from hardware. Wouldn't that be something like 400k (give or take) units sold? Wouldn't THAT qualify as a system seller? Unless you think a large chunk is microtransactions which would be dumb to think.

I think it's fair to say H5 sold millions in the 1st week. Whether it sold more than the other Halo's at this point doesn't matter. MILLIONS would make it far from a bust or "megaflop" as you put it.

Face it, 400M means you lose no matter how you try and slice it.