Where is the romance in games like "Romeo and Juliet"?

Where are the love in the video games?...Ever since MGS and Max Payne came out, thee are no games that've demonstrated games that showed such strong sense of love inside. All the private moments of men and women, and all the tragedy that should've involve in games, where are they?...Where are all the twists in video games?....All the romantic moments, musicals, and composing, we only see so many male protagonists nowaways withoutromance inside!.....when are such games coming to be released?

So please, someone enlighten me?

please dont, i hate love stories.

My understanding is that video games is an entertainment medium in its infancy. As the medium matures, I assume that game makers will be more willing to address a broader spectrum of human emotions and feelings, rather then focusing on hatred and contempt.

Video games will become a more important medium of entertainment then film by the end of the 21st century - expect the content of games to change and reflect that.

Love stories died out when shooters because the only genre worth playing in America.

Don't worry, the "everything has to have shooting elements" fad will pass soon enough.

Yeah, call me corny, but I miss the days of games like FF VIII and MGS

The only game I can think of with Romancecoming in the horizon is possibly MGS4 with the return of Meryl and Nomura promises a tragic love story for FF Versus XIII

who needs romance, when you can pull off some insane headschots????MonacoX

rofl

I thought FFVIII did that pretty well.

MGS3? Not so much like Romeo and Juliet, but it had a lot of twists to do with romance.

Call me a sap, but it has always bothered me that in most video games and anime the romance is always implied, especially between two main characters. I mean, that works sometimes, but it's almost like a cliche now. Lot's of meaningful looks and "clever hints", screw that...just kiss already! :P

And yes I agree, romance was handled well in FFVIII.

That is exactly what we don't need. Its the romance in most movies that ruin them, there's always a god damn love interest getting in the way of all the action, comedy or w/e. The amount of story in games we're gettin now (especially the shooters) is starting to do my head in, having recently played through gearsfor second time inmonths i couldnt help but get annoyed at all the damn slow walk story telling crap that i can't even skip to get to the killin. There are so many corridors and rooms in gears that were screaming out to have fire fights in em, but noooo instead have some random voice acting.

I don't know, maybe i just can't get immersed in a game quite like a movie, where there are no graphical glitches, poor texturing, dodgy shading, pathetic lip sync, unreal animations, clipping etc which i can't help but notice.

All IMO of course :)

having recently played through gearsfor second time inmonths i couldnt help but get annoyed at all the damn slow walk story telling crap that i can't even skip to get to the killinChronic_420

You're Winner!

That is exactly what we don't need. Its the romance in most movies that ruin them, there's always a god damn love interest getting in the way of all the action, comedy or w/e. The amount of story in games we're gettin now (especially the shooters) is starting to do my head in, having recently played through gearsfor second time inmonths i couldnt help but get annoyed at all the damn slow walk story telling crap that i can't even skip to get to the killin. There are so many corridors and rooms in gears that were screaming out to have fire fights in em, but noooo instead have some random voice acting.

I don't know, maybe i just can't get immersed in a game quite like a movie, where there are no graphical glitches, poor texturing, dodgy shading, pathetic lip sync, unreal animations, clipping etc which i can't help but notice.

All IMO of course :)

Chronic_420

You, my friend have ADD/ADHD

[QUOTE="Chronic_420"]

That is exactly what we don't need. Its the romance in most movies that ruin them, there's always a god damn love interest getting in the way of all the action, comedy or w/e. The amount of story in games we're gettin now (especially the shooters) is starting to do my head in, having recently played through gearsfor second time inmonths i couldnt help but get annoyed at all the damn slow walk story telling crap that i can't even skip to get to the killin. There are so many corridors and rooms in gears that were screaming out to have fire fights in em, but noooo instead have some random voice acting.

I don't know, maybe i just can't get immersed in a game quite like a movie, where there are no graphical glitches, poor texturing, dodgy shading, pathetic lip sync, unreal animations, clipping etc which i can't help but notice.

All IMO of course :)

Aqua-Vitae

You, my friend have ADD/ADHD

lol that was mean

Prince of Persia, FF X, countless others. they exist if you look for them.sonicare

That was pretty low-key romantic type stuff.

Leisure Suit Larry 3: Pursuit of Patty or Pulsating Pectorals or whatever probably has the most man-woman type story I've played.

It has been many a year since I played it, though.

Oh, and the title: Passionate Patti in Pursuit of the Pulsating Pectorals

hahahaha.

[QUOTE="Chronic_420"]

That is exactly what we don't need. Its the romance in most movies that ruin them, there's always a god damn love interest getting in the way of all the action, comedy or w/e. The amount of story in games we're gettin now (especially the shooters) is starting to do my head in, having recently played through gearsfor second time inmonths i couldnt help but get annoyed at all the damn slow walk story telling crap that i can't even skip to get to the killin. There are so many corridors and rooms in gears that were screaming out to have fire fights in em, but noooo instead have some random voice acting.

I don't know, maybe i just can't get immersed in a game quite like a movie, where there are no graphical glitches, poor texturing, dodgy shading, pathetic lip sync, unreal animations, clipping etc which i can't help but notice.

All IMO of course :)

Aqua-Vitae

You, my friend have ADD/ADHD

Er, no. And this is why i refrain from postin in system wars. Pricks like you.

Indigo Prophecy/Fareneheit

Best game ever......

Indigo Prophecy/Fareneheit

Best game ever......

_MURS_

sadly the romance was rushed. we missed all the actual romance during the timeskip.

Indigo Prophecy/Fareneheit

Best game ever......

_MURS_

I haven't quite beat it, so I'm not sure how Lucas and Carla interact after they get out of

[spoiler] The alternate universe they get sucked into after he finds her in the amusement park (that's where I am) [/spoiler]

Prince of Persia Trilogy has romance between the Prince an Farah.

Kotor has romance too, Bastilla with Revan

Hot coffee FTW :Pblue_hazy_basic

I might let it go as "romancin'" though. :lol:

Call me a sap, but it has always bothered me that in most video games and anime the romance is always implied, especially between two main characters. I mean, that works sometimes, but it's almost like a cliche now. Lot's of meaningful looks and "clever hints", screw that...just kiss already! :P

And yes I agree, romance was handled well in FFVIII.

TreyoftheDead

Ever play Fahrenheit(Indigo Prophecy in the US)? The two main characters end up falling in love and actually make love in a scene later in the game. I don't know why there wasn't a big hoo-ha about it, because it is quite graphic, but still handled romantically and respectfully.

Considering what happened with the 'hot coffee' scandal and even the mini game in God of War, this game seemed to avoid the attention of the angryright wingmob. It's a great game, I recommend everyone play it. Incredibly cinematic. The developer is currently working on a PS3 title, likely to be Heavy Rain.

Other games with romantic qualities ; Broken Sword, KOTOR 1 & 2, Monkey Island series, Jade Empire, the Sims series etc. There are probably many more, but the fact I stopped after 5 or 6 goes to show how rare it is. I mean, ask me about romantic films and I could name 100...

[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]

Call me a sap, but it has always bothered me that in most video games and anime the romance is always implied, especially between two main characters. I mean, that works sometimes, but it's almost like a cliche now. Lot's of meaningful looks and "clever hints", screw that...just kiss already! :P

And yes I agree, romance was handled well in FFVIII.

dommeus

Ever play Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy in the US)?The two main characters end up falling in love and actually make love in a scene later in the game. I don't know why there wasn't a big ho-har about it, because it is quite graphic, but still handled romantically and respectfully.

Considering whathappened with the 'hot coffee' scandal and even the mini game in God of War, this game seemed to avoid the attention of the angry mob. It's a great game, I recommend everyone play it. Incredibly cinematic. The developer is currently working on a PS3 title, likley to be Heavy Rain.

Other games with romantic qualities ; Broken Sword, KOTOR 1 & 2, Monkey Island series, Jade Empire, theSims seriesetc. There are probably many more, but the fact I stopped after 5 or 6 goes to show how rare it is. I mean, ask me about romantic films andI could name 100...

Fahrenheit is a terrible example. they skipped the romance and went to the sex(not the same thing). when that scene came on I was like WTF?

i agree with KOTOR and Jade Empire though.

Most gamers are dudes, and dudes don't sit around all day watching Lifetime.Vandalvideo

We sit around watching Big Lebowski. amirite?

Most gamers are dudes, and dudes don't sit around all day watching Lifetime.Vandalvideo

most avid gamers are dudes. but women (esp older women) make up a lot (i think even most) of the casual market which most US devs haven't targeted.

True the romance was a bit rushed, but then the end of the game didn't make a lot of sense. They probably ran out of time... alas they still took a risk.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Most gamers are dudes, and dudes don't sit around all day watching Lifetime.Ontain

most avid gamers are dudes. but women (esp older women) make up a lot (i think even most) of the casual market which most US devs haven't targeted.

Well, being an English literature major...I would say there is no romance in Romeo and Juliet either. But that's just coming from somehow who studied the text and not the romanticized hollywood adaptations.

However, you make a very good point. Perhaps if companies want to capture the female market, they need to worry less about only making crappy mini-game collections and focus more on making real games from a female perspective. Why NOT have an RPG, adventure or even an action gamewith a romantic storyline? Seems highly possible to me?

Then again, I've never been one to compliment developers for their originality so why start now.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Most gamers are dudes, and dudes don't sit around all day watching Lifetime.Vandalvideo

most avid gamers are dudes. but women (esp older women) make up a lot (i think even most) of the casual market which most US devs haven't targeted.

of course :) they aren't vocal because they are casual hehe. the industry just loses out on that market. though the wii and ds are seeing success with more women.

Where are the love in the video games?...Ever since MGS and Max Payne came out, thee are no games that've demonstrated games that showed such strong sense of love inside. All the private moments of men and women, and all the tragedy that should've involve in games, where are they?...Where are all the twists in video games?....All the romantic moments, musicals, and composing, we only see so many male protagonists nowaways withoutromance inside!.....when are such games coming to be released?

So please, someone enlighten me?

minniepink

Japanese "Adventure" games. There's tons of them released every month.

Here in North America? Well the 14 year-old racists on Xbox Live aren't much into romance.

Some games recently that I've felt emotional ties to though: The Darkness, Indigo Propechy, Dreamfall:: The Longest Journey, and believe it or not Chibi-Robo! has a strong emotional component.

Well, being an English literature major...I would say there is no romance in Romeo and Juliet either. But that's just coming from somehow who studied the text and not the romanticized hollywood adaptations.

However, you make a very good point. Perhaps if companies want to capture the female market, they need to worry less about only making crappy mini-game collections and focus more on making real games from a female perspective. Why NOT have an RPG, adventure or even an action gamewith a romantic storyline? Seems highly possible to me?

Then again, I've never been one to compliment developers for their originality so why start now.

ZIMdoom

I read that back in the day when adventure games for the pc were big that there were quite a bit of women gamers. even today adventure games (because of their style of play and attention to story) appeal to women a lot more than action games. In march i attended a convention and there were indy developers that said pc adventure games are the way to go for indy since they are cheap to make and there's an audience starving for well written and designed adventure games. 50% of whom are women. that surprised me.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Well, being an English literature major...I would say there is no romance in Romeo and Juliet either. But that's just coming from somehow who studied the text and not the romanticized hollywood adaptations.

However, you make a very good point. Perhaps if companies want to capture the female market, they need to worry less about only making crappy mini-game collections and focus more on making real games from a female perspective. Why NOT have an RPG, adventure or even an action gamewith a romantic storyline? Seems highly possible to me?

Then again, I've never been one to compliment developers for their originality so why start now.

Ontain

I read that back in the day when adventure games for the pc were big that there were quite a bit of women gamers. even today adventure games (because of their style of play and attention to story) appeal to women a lot more than action games. In march i attended a convention and there were indy developers that said pc adventure games are the way to go for indy since they are cheap to make and there's an audience starving for well written and designed adventure games. 50% of whom are women. that surprised me.

For sure. My wife and her friend both love games like Siberia, Dreamfall and the like. "Games" that are more about the story and characters than anything else.

I'm sort of surprised that the genre died, there's a ton of great stories out there. It could totally make a comeback on DS or a service like XBLA/PSN/WiiWare

Splinter Cell: Double Agent? I guess...I mean Sam Fisher gets it on with that girl in the JBA headquarters....

WHo needs love in games really. The only gaming love storythat matters is the love between the game and the gamer.

[QUOTE="_MURS_"]

Indigo Prophecy/Fareneheit

Best game ever......

Ontain

sadly the romance was rushed. we missed all the actual romance during the timeskip.

[QUOTE="_MURS_"]

Indigo Prophecy/Fareneheit

Best game ever......

Jandurin

I haven't quite beat it, so I'm not sure how Lucas and Carla interact after they get out of

[spoiler] The alternate universe they get sucked into after he finds her in the amusement park (that's where I am) [/spoiler]

Yeah the ending of that game feels incredibly rushed....the beginning was great, lthere was tons of interaction and like everything you did effected the game, and as you went a long it started getting lesser and lesser, and towards the ending you could pretty much only do 1 thing which just moved the story foward.....and the ending was pretty bad

The beginning was great though...

Video games haven't even touched Shakespeare. Video games are not art, they are a form of entertainment, and they will stay that way until a developer decides to bring the gaming medium to a higher levelhamstergeddon

Although you are correct 99% of games are not at a level to be called art or have got to a shakespeare level, two games stand head and shoulders above all the rest and i feel they are the closest thing to art in video games.

ICO and Shadow of the colossus. For games with few words they pack more emotion than a shakespeare play and more beautiful images than a art gallery.

Well, being an English literature major...I would say there is no romance in Romeo and Juliet either. But that's just coming from somehow who studied the text and not the romanticized hollywood adaptations.

However, you make a very good point. Perhaps if companies want to capture the female market, they need to worry less about only making crappy mini-game collections and focus more on making real games from a female perspective. Why NOT have an RPG, adventure or even an action gamewith a romantic storyline? Seems highly possible to me?

Then again, I've never been one to compliment developers for their originality so why start now.

ZIMdoom

I've read Shakespeare...and studied every single word/phrase that they've used in the 1600s...and to analize them, the text already gave more than enough physical adpatation than mental feelings towards both of Romeo and Juliet, but that was teh only flaw in Romeo and Juliet. The story just describes of how beautiful Juliet is, and how "handsome" Romeo is, Shakespeare never did explain what the two characters thinks about each other...and Romeo died because of his foolishness...and this is the reason to include romance...

...but the main point is...when will a real game with romance be created?...(not that they are released)