Where is this skyrim hype coming from? GOTY? Seriously?

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#1 ice144
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I mean, am I the only one who played oblivion?

Repetitive dugeons

Terrible NPCS and voice acting

HORRENDOUS level scaling

Bland combat

Terribly linear quests

No karma system

General lack of depth compared to its predecessor

All of the pre-release lies

The last point in particular really interests me. I feel like the only people who are getting hyped for skyrim are those who were surprised by oblivion, because NO ONE in there right mind who was hyped for oblivion would be hyped for skyrim, after bethesda lied or overexaggerated just about everything that was in their game. You know what they say, fool me once...


...Or are we talking about the modded version that people will have to make to fix all of skyrim's inevitable problems? In that case, yea, I'll sign up on the AAA hype. But if not, please, tell me how on earth skyrim deserves the pleasure of being hyped.

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#2 KC_Hokie
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Because the game simply looks fantastic.
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#3 balfe1990
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I'm certainly not going to buy it at launch anyway.

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#4 ice144
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Because the game simply looks fantastic.KC_Hokie
So did oblivion.
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#5 ShadowDeathX
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Shhh...Don't remind people, let them have their moment. =p

I see the Elder Scroll games as a Jack of Trades kind of RPG. It offers a good amount of content, although indiviually the elements aren't so great, the overall package makes it a good game.

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#6 LiftedHeadshot
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I mean, am I the only one who played oblivion?

Repetitive dungeons

Terrible NPCS and voice acting

HORRENDOUS level scaling

Bland combat

Terribly linear quests

No karma system

General lack of depth compared to its predecessor

All of the pre-release lies

The last point in particular really interests me. I feel like the only people who are getting hyped for skyrim are those who were surprised by oblivion, because NO ONE in there right mind who was hyped for oblivion would be hyped for skyrim, after bethesda lied or overexaggerated just about everything that was in their game. You know what they say, fool me once...


...Or are we talking about the modded version that people will have to make to fix all of skyrim's inevitable problems? In that case, yea, I'll sign up on the AAA hype. But if not, please, tell me how on earth skyrim deserves the pleasure of being hyped.

ice144

Lol all those things are trivialized to nothing compared to what the game achieved.

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#7 Plagueless
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Because the game simply looks fantastic.ice144
So did oblivion.

You do realize that oblivion and morrowind both won tons of GOTY awards right? And that they both have a goty edition? And that Skyrim looks like the best yet?
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#8 IOwnsGh2
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Because the game simply looks fantastic.KC_Hokie
This. Isn't that what hype is anyways? We're hyped on how the game looks... Just like we were for Oblivion.
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#9 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Because the game simply looks fantastic.ice144
So did oblivion.

Bethesda knows the flaws of Oblivion and fixed them with Skyrim.

I would be shocked if Skyrim doesn't get GOTY. Each time I see in game footage I'm blown away. It's in another league compared to Oblivion and Fallout 3.

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#10 Crystal-Rush
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I know what you mean. I can see this game being really great for a lot of people, but for me, no matter how many videos or previews i look at, i just don't get that feeling of excitement that i had with Morrowind. In fact, it looks worse each time i see it.

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#11 LiftedHeadshot
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After watching all the gameplay footage, I can imagine myself playing it, and having a blast. From the looks of it, Skyrim will be a polished, more immersive form of Oblivion, which is just what I want.
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#12 Plagueless
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Because the game simply looks fantastic.IOwnsGh2
This. Isn't that what hype is anyways? We're hyped on how the game looks... Just like we were for Oblivion.

Am I the only one who thought Oblivion was good? Granted, it certainly wasn't as good as morrowind, but It was a very good game. With regard to the bad voice acting, I was happy with it because MW had no voice acting. Also, one of the reasons I want Skyrim so much is it is vringing back the rugged landscape that oblivion lacked.
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#13 Blueresident87
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I am super hyped for Skyrim, but I agree Oblivion was pretty terrible. Remember though, that the majority of people who played Oblivion loved it. Elder Scrolls is a very established franchise so the fans know what they want. If Skyrim wins GOTY I'll be dissapointed, but not too much, and surprised.

From what I'm seeing Skyrim should be much better than Oblivion, but the golden rule with hype is don't buy into it. Some of the better games I've played this generation get no attention and I never saw commercials for them telling people how awesome they were.

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#14 turtlethetaffer
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I think Zelda will be the best game this year. It looks awesome.

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#15 KC_Hokie
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I think Zelda will be the best game this year. It looks awesome.

turtlethetaffer
The one that looks like a PS2 game?
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#16 IOwnsGh2
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[QUOTE="IOwnsGh2"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Because the game simply looks fantastic.Plagueless
This. Isn't that what hype is anyways? We're hyped on how the game looks... Just like we were for Oblivion.

Am I the only one who thought Oblivion was good? Granted, it certainly wasn't as good as morrowind, but It was a very good game. With regard to the bad voice acting, I was happy with it because MW had no voice acting. Also, one of the reasons I want Skyrim so much is it is vringing back the rugged landscape that oblivion lacked.

Oh no, I wasn't saying Oblivion was bad. Oblivion is fantastic. Easily one of the best RPGs period. And Skyrim looks to top Oblivion, hence why everyone is hyping the crap out of this game TC...
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#17 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

I think Zelda will be the best game this year. It looks awesome.

KC_Hokie

The one that looks like a PS2 game?

When I say "looks" I mean gameplay as well you know. As in "man this will be an awesome game to play." And I think the art styIe is just fine anyways.

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#18 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

I think Zelda will be the best game this year. It looks awesome.

turtlethetaffer

The one that looks like a PS2 game?

When I say "looks" I mean gameplay as well you know. As in "man this will be an awesome game to play." And I think the art styIe is just fine anyways.

I just think Skyrim is in a different league of quality. They hired extra artists to design each dungeon separately so nothing was computer generated. They did that for the entire map.
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#19 PAL360
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Morrowind was one of my favourite games last gen, just like Oblivion one of my favourite this gen. I dont see any reason to not hype it like crazy :D

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#20 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The one that looks like a PS2 game?KC_Hokie

When I say "looks" I mean gameplay as well you know. As in "man this will be an awesome game to play." And I think the art styIe is just fine anyways.

I just think Skyrim is in a different league of quality. They hired extra artists to design each dungeon separately so nothing was computer generated. They did that for the entire map.

Cool, and I think Zelda will be better. For me at least. Alot of the changes sound really awesome (the dungeons are essentially part of the overworld.)

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#21 Immortalsaiyan
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Oblivion is one of the worst games I played this gen. I am skeptical about Skyrim to say the least.

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#22 santoron
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I just think Skyrim is in a different league of quality. They hired extra artists to design each dungeon separately so nothing was computer generated. They did that for the entire map.KC_Hokie

You sure about that? Because 6 GB for the entire game sure sounds like we're gonna get a lot of procedural generation for terrain/foliage and a lot of repeated dungeon parts. I hope I'm wrong though, I just don't want people expecting what isn't there...

As far as WHY Skyrim gets so much GOTY hype? Why, because it's the latest installment of one of the more critically acclaimed series of all time. :|

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#23 gamebreakerz__
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Morrowind was one of my favourite games last gen, just like Oblivion one of my favourite this gen. I dont see any reason to not hype it like crazy :D

PAL360
Basically this. Yeah, Oblivion had a few issues, but nothing a few mods couldn't fix, and it was still worth a good 120+ hours which only about 1% of games achieve.
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#24 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I just think Skyrim is in a different league of quality. They hired extra artists to design each dungeon separately so nothing was computer generated. They did that for the entire map.santoron

You sure about that? Because 6 GB for the entire game sure sounds like we're gonna get a lot of procedural generation for terrain/foliage and a lot of repeated dungeon parts. I hope I'm wrong though, I just don't want people expecting what isn't there...

As far as WHY Skyrim gets so much GOTY hype? Why, because it's the latest installment of one of the more critically acclaimed series of all time. :|

You can get compressed versions of Oblivion+Expansions that are only 4GB in total, so I wouldn't worry about Skyrim's size.
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#25 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I just think Skyrim is in a different league of quality. They hired extra artists to design each dungeon separately so nothing was computer generated. They did that for the entire map.santoron

You sure about that? Because 6 GB for the entire game sure sounds like we're gonna get a lot of procedural generation for terrain/foliage and a lot of repeated dungeon parts. I hope I'm wrong though, I just don't want people expecting what isn't there...

As far as WHY Skyrim gets so much GOTY hype? Why, because it's the latest installment of one of the more critically acclaimed series of all time. :|

The maps are entirely handcrafted.
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#26 SaltyMeatballs
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Skyrim is Skyrim, it's not Oblivion. Have a good day.
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#27 Ziek-AAT
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I dunno why either, I played a few hours of Oblivion and couldn't stand it.

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#28 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I was surprised by the game footage. It actually looks rather bland. The world looks alright, if uninspired, but I expected the gameplay to look a little more--I don't know--evolved?

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#29 kris9031998
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You just described Dark Souls for me.
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#30 BiscuitCruiser
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I mean, am I the only one who played oblivion?

Repetitive dugeons

There will be 100+ hand made dungeons in skyrim

Terrible NPCS and voice acting

New AI system + over 70 voice actors

HORRENDOUS level scaling

Fixed

Bland combat

Combat has more depth now.

Terribly linear quests

Not really

No karma system

The game didn't rip off other games that much? oh noes!

General lack of depth compared to its predecessor

That opinion, some people like being able to hit a enemy and then the enemy is damaged

All of the pre-release lies

Yeah, about the lighting which was becasue of the 360 hardware

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#31 hanslacher54
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Just because you don't like a game doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either. You don't like it? Awesome, lots of other people do.

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#32 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Oblivion has to be one of the most overrated games I have ever seen.. I still can't qualify it as a rpg..
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#33 zeldisco2009
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I think it is going to be the biggest flop of the generation after Duke Nukem.

Skyward Sword is the only game this year with a realistic chance of GOTY.You underestimate the Legendary series and the mother of all action adventure games at you own peril.

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#34 The_Djoker
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lol @ this troll attempt. Stick to COD kid
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#35 Heil68
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I wont get it right away. probably after the first couple patches.
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#36 deactivated-59d151f079814
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lol @ this troll attempt. Stick to COD kidThe_Djoker

Your response makes no sense.. He isn't complaining about it not having enough shooting or action or other such things.. But just how shallow its predecessor was in multiple areas..

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#37 mr_zombie60
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Shhh...Don't remind people, let them have their moment. =p

I see the Elder Scroll games as a Jack of Trades kind of RPG. It offers a good amount of content, although indiviually the elements aren't so great, the overall package makes it a good game.

ShadowDeathX

^ Though I was fond enough of the individual elements to simply love the overrall package.

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#38 Blueresident87
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I think it is going to be the biggest flop of the generation after Duke Nukem.

Skyward Sword is the only game this year with a realistic chance of GOTY.You underestimate the Legendary series and the mother of all action adventure games at you own peril.

zeldisco2009

What? This is so confusing I'm not even sure it's in English...

But really, when you think about it, Skyward's Swords 'realistic chance' of winning GOTY is actually fairly poor. Say what you will, but graphics matter even if they always shouldn't. And Skyword Sword is going to be going up against some very good games, just as good as Skyward Sword will be if not better, that will put the appearance of SS to shame. I love the Zelda series, but I don't think it should win GOTY.

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#39 heretrix
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Skyrim looks awesome.That's why it's being hyped. Could it flop? Sure, but so what? I'm sure I'll get hundreds of hours out of it just like Oblivion.

Money well spent.

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#40 mems_1224
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because oblivion and fallout 3 are two of the best 10 games this gen,skyrim wont be different
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#41 mems_1224
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Skyrim looks awesome.That's why it's being hyped. Could it flop? Sure, but so what? I'm sure I'll get hundreds of hours out of it just like Oblivion.

Money well spent.

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this, no developer gives you your money's worth like Bethesda does
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#42 LORD_BLACKGULT
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Why do all the Skyrim bashers bring up Oblivion, and pass on all of Oblivions faults onto Skyrim?

Watch some nice footage to see where the hype comes from.....(best watched muted)

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#43 Lief_Ericson
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I still LOVED Oblivion just not as much as Morrowind and Skyrim just looks fantastic, day 1 buy

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#44 zeldisco2009
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[QUOTE="zeldisco2009"]

I think it is going to be the biggest flop of the generation after Duke Nukem.

Skyward Sword is the only game this year with a realistic chance of GOTY.You underestimate the Legendary series and the mother of all action adventure games at you own peril.

Blueresident87

What? This is so confusing I'm not even sure it's in English...

But really, when you think about it, Skyward's Swords 'realistic chance' of winning GOTY is actually fairly poor. Say what you will, but graphics matter even if they always shouldn't. And Skyword Sword is going to be going up against some very good games, just as good as Skyward Sword will be if not better, that will put the appearance of SS to shame. I love the Zelda series, but I don't think it should win GOTY.

Wii Graphics as a weakness?

Well if graphics mattered so much then Crysis 1 would have many GOTY and would still be regarded as the best game of the gen.If graphics mattered so much then every year only PC games would win the best scores and GOTY.

And:Wind Waker with its unpopular graphics won the GOTY here in 2003.

Skyward Sword has similar graphics or even better.But in the end it all comes down to gameplay.Also the Legend of Zelda series is one of the most prestigous series in the gaming world.If mainsteam magazines and publications listed the most prestigous series of any plattform in the last 30 years Zelda would be minimum top 5.I couldnt say the same about Elder Scrolls.

Plus:

Mario Galaxy 1 and Mario Galaxy 2.

Highest rated exlusives this gen (even with last gen graphics) and won more GOTY than any PS,Xbox 360 ,PC exclusive and multiplat.That includes Uncharted,Elder Scrolls,Halo,Read Dead,Gears of War,Batman and many more!

Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics.

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#45 mr_zombie60
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Biggest flop since Duke Nukem? You may dislike the series, but that's a very ignorant statement.

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#47 cain006
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Isn't it obvious? Because it has da foliage!

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#48 MercenaryMafia
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Skyrim looks EPIC. Hyped AAA and GOTY. I don't know what the TC is talking about......
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#49 zeldisco2009
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Biggest flop since Duke Nukem? You may dislike the series, but that's a very ignorant statement.

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Flop in the hype game is very good possible and well I am exxaggerating it a little bit :P

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#50 mr_zombie60
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[QUOTE="mr_zombie60"]

Biggest flop since Duke Nukem? You may dislike the series, but that's a very ignorant statement.

zeldisco2009

Flop in the hype game is very good possible and well I am exxaggerating it a little bit :P

Well, I'm glad you admit it's an exaggeration XD But, can't see it flopping. Skyrim isn't really wandering away from the formula of its predeccessor, so I don't understand how critics would rate the game poorly, unless of course Bethesda really drops the ball here. Why do you think it will flop (besides the fact that you disliked Oblivion)?