I don't think PC or consoles are going anywhere for quite a while. However, with the success of Angry Birds and Words with friends, I think certain devs are definitely looking at the revenue potential of smart phones and tablets.
Casual gaming is good in ocasions, but nothing is better than a well developed story with great character interaction and bla bla bla.
tjricardo089
I agree, and obviously, most people will agree with you here. On the flipside of that, go google how much Zynga (made words with friends) made last year. Its mind boggling.
Both PCs and consoles, although they will continue to creep closer together. I personally don't trust cloud computing and I work in the IT field professionally. The Amazon cloud crash showed that allowing a private company to control access to your data is a very dangerous gamble.
Ding ding someone picked a winner. This should be included in the poll. Well, to be fair, I kind of figured smart phones/tablets would be the casual choice.
I don't think PC or consoles are going anywhere for quite a while. However, with the success of Angry Birds and Words with friends, I think certain devs are definitely looking at the revenue potential of smart phones and tablets.
clone01
The funding in modern gaming is all sorts of messed up. You do not need astronomical budgets and teams of 200 to make most games, and if your game calls for that, maybe it's time to think about scaling it back. Same main issue with Hollywood.
You can make great games and movies on sensible budgets, then make your money back faster and then use that to fund the next game. So simple, but the people with the money don't understand that it seems.
A lot of the early videogames were casual, though. People seem to forget that. What happened to that crowd? A lot of them craved a more in-depth experience. I think the same will happen to a large portion of the current casual market.
Ding ding someone picked a winner. This should be included in the poll. Well, to be fair, I kind of figured smart phones/tablets would be the casual choice. Huh are you are saying there can't be casual games on console in future? need I remind you of Call of Duty which is breaking sales records each years. Thats casual power and makes your poll invalid imo.
How are people voting on consoles? How can the consoles be the future of gaming? Same for the PC..
tjricardo089
That's the thing about the future...no one knows what it will hold. I could just as easily speculate that gaming will be dead in the future. Doesn't make me right or wrong yet.
[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Huh are you are saying there can't be casual games on console in future? need I remind you of Call of Duty which is breaking sales records each years. Thats casual power and makes your poll invalid imo. You needed a casual game for an example...and you went to Call of Duty?
[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Huh are you are saying there can't be casual games on console in future? need I remind you of Call of Duty which is breaking sales records each years. Thats casual power and makes your poll invalid imo.SpruceCaboose
You needed a casual game for an example...and you went to Call of Duty? Well it can't be hardcore... considering the fanbase
[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="viper-kid"] Ding ding someone picked a winner. This should be included in the poll. Well, to be fair, I kind of figured smart phones/tablets would be the casual choice. Huh are you are saying there can't be casual games on console in future? need I remind you of Call of Duty which is breaking sales records each years. Thats casual power and makes your poll invalid imo. Its not my poll. I'm not the TC. Of course there can be casual games on consoles and PC. But almost all of the games on a tablet/smart phone could be considered casual.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="viper-kid"] Huh are you are saying there can't be casual games on console in future? need I remind you of Call of Duty which is breaking sales records each years. Thats casual power and makes your poll invalid imo.viper-kid
You needed a casual game for an example...and you went to Call of Duty? Well it can't be hardcore... considering the fanbase I guess I would need to hear your definition of casual then, since that doesn't match any I've heard.
Casual gaming is good in ocasions, but nothing is better than a well developed story with great character interaction and bla bla bla.
freedomfreak
Yeah,definitely. And who made a rule that casual games can not have a well developed story with great character interactions? Majority of mainstream games are developed with a very wide audience in mind. Casual or Core, whatever those mean. Most mainstream games are very simple to pick up and play. No video game history required.
I'm a pessimist. I think what happened to the great studios of yesteryear (Infogrames, Team 17, Smilebit, Am2) will soon happen to the independent studios that release their games digitally. It's too much of a goldmine for EA, Ubisoft and Activision to ignore for long.
And who made a rule that casual games can not have a well developed story with great character interactions? Where are they? The Mass Effect series is pretty causal imo, so is Uncharted.
When three of my friends entered the video game market, they had no previous history of owning a single gaming platform, I told them to get a PS3 and play the Assassin's Creed series, Mass Effect series, and the Uncharted series. A good story and character interactions actually helps them stay interested in the game and many times makes them very easy to play along.
I'm a pessimist. I think what happened to the great studios of yesteryear (Infogrames, Team 17, Smilebit, Am2) will soon happen to the independent studios that release their games digitally. It's too much of a goldmine for EA, Ubisoft and Activision to ignore for long.
Menalque2
Just because you are huge doesn't mean you automatically get your way. The indie studios will have to agree to sell first, and not all developers are in it for the money (I mean even big companies like Bungie showed that you can walk away from money bags if you have a strong desire to do your own thing).
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] You needed a casual game for an example...and you went to Call of Duty?SpruceCaboose
Well it can't be hardcore... considering the fanbase I guess I would need to hear your definition of casual then, since that doesn't match any I've heard. Any game which 30% is kids and 50% teens, Especially since most Cod players all they play is Cod, meaning they have no interest in gaming, just cod. So what do you consider casual? there is a reason why people where complaining about 'casualizing' on this forum.
The Mass Effect series is pretty causal imo, so is Uncharted.
When three of my friends entered the video game market, they had no previous history of owning a single gaming platform, I told them to get a PS3 and play the Assassin's Creed series, Mass Effect series, and the Uncharted series. A good story and character interactions actually helps them stay interested in the game and many times makes them very easy to play along.
ShadowDeathX
WTH happened here? I leave for a year and come back and people are labeling these huge, fairly complicated triple A titles as casual now? Is it just any game that someone can play with no prior gaming experience, because that applies to just about every game that has a good user interface and design (I can only think of obscure, smaller budget titles that would be considered hardcore then).
i don't get the pc elitist stuff anymore, i have a console and a decent pc and there's hardly a difference, some games even look better on consoles. The hardware with pc is there but there isn't any development anymore that use the newest system hardware, the last big thing was crysis and that's 5 years ago. As long as there isn't a new console don't expect any big leaps in computergames. So be thankfull nintendo brings out the wii-u otherwise we would have been stuck with the x360 and ps3 forever.
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] And who made a rule that casual games can not have a well developed story with great character interactions?ShadowDeathX
Where are they? The Mass Effect series is pretty causal imo, so is Uncharted.
When three of my friends entered the video game market, they had no previous history of owning a single gaming platform, I told them to get a PS3 and play the Assassin's Creed series, Mass Effect series, and the Uncharted series. A good story and character interactions actually helps them stay interested in the game and many times makes them very easy to play along.
I was talking about casual games like Wii Sports and those phone games. Not stuff like Uncharted and Mass Effect.I think that just makes it harder to determine what is casual or not.
[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Any game which 30% is kids and 50% teens, Especially since most Cod players all they play is Cod, meaning they have no interest in gaming, just cod. So what do you consider casual? their is a reason why people where complaining about 'casualizing' on this forum. I personally consider the gamer casual or hardcore, not the game. You can play games in more that one way, and you can certainly play CoD in a hardcore way or a casual way. If you love gaming and the culture, you are hardcore. If you just game to pass the time and couldn't care less about knowing developers or hearing what is at E3, you are a casual gamer.
People forget there is no definition for a casual game. In the end it's all opinion so just because a game in your opinion is 'complicated' doesn't seem to another as 'complicated' so in that person's opinion it's casual. There needs to be a middle ground between casual vs hardcore.
People forget there is no definition for a casual game. In the end it's all opinion so just because a game in your opinion is 'complicated' doesn't seem to another as 'complicated' so in that person's opinion it's casual. There needs to be a middle ground between casual vs hardcore.
viper-kid
Never did forget that, hence why I asked for your definition of casual as a frame of reference. You'd have a point if I just claimed you wrong and left it at that.
People forget there is no definition for a casual game. In the end it's all opinion so just because a game in your opinion is 'complicated' doesn't seem to another as 'complicated' so in that person's opinion it's casual. There needs to be a middle ground between casual vs hardcore.
viper-kid
How about we remove the label causal and core from existence and just call them games. :)
People forget there is no definition for a casual game. In the end it's all opinion so just because a game in your opinion is 'complicated' doesn't seem to another as 'complicated' so in that person's opinion it's casual. There needs to be a middle ground between casual vs hardcore.
ShadowDeathX
How about we remove the label causal and core from existence and just call them games. :) Labling is part of this forum. Just like lems, cows and sheep.
People forget there is no definition for a casual game. In the end it's all opinion so just because a game in your opinion is 'complicated' doesn't seem to another as 'complicated' so in that person's opinion it's casual. There needs to be a middle ground between casual vs hardcore.
SpruceCaboose
Never did forget that, hence why I asked for your definition of casual as a frame of reference. You'd have a point if I just claimed you wrong and left it at that. Wasn't directed to you. Friend
The Mass Effect series is pretty causal imo, so is Uncharted.
When three of my friends entered the video game market, they had no previous history of owning a single gaming platform, I told them to get a PS3 and play the Assassin's Creed series, Mass Effect series, and the Uncharted series. A good story and character interactions actually helps them stay interested in the game and many times makes them very easy to play along.
I was talking about casual games like Wii Sports and those phone games. Not stuff like Uncharted and Mass Effect.I think that just makes it harder to determine what is casual or not. Well Wii sports and many of "those phone" games aren't meant to have deep story and what not. Their purpose is the gameplay which many of them are fun. Not all games need a good story and not all of them need good gameplay.
Kinect Disneyland is targeted towards children. Kinect Sports is targeted to any family who likes that sort of gameplay. If a gamer feels that this sort of game does not target you properly, he/she can just refuse to buy it.
People forget there is no definition for a casual game. In the end it's all opinion so just because a game in your opinion is 'complicated' doesn't seem to another as 'complicated' so in that person's opinion it's casual. There needs to be a middle ground between casual vs hardcore.
ShadowDeathX
How about we remove the label causal and core from existence and just call them games. :) I like that idea, but then again, SW is all about fighting pointlessly!
The video game market is expanding. It is the number form of entertainment. As such, a super wide audience will be targeted.
We will have games that will try to target a very wide audience. Most mainstream "Triple-A" games will do this.
But we will also see games that target to a certain crowd. Most likely to be done by smaller than mainstream sized developers, since they might not have the resources to target everyone.
People forget there is no definition for a casual game. In the end it's all opinion so just because a game in your opinion is 'complicated' doesn't seem to another as 'complicated' so in that person's opinion it's casual. There needs to be a middle ground between casual vs hardcore.
SpruceCaboose
How about we remove the label causal and core from existence and just call them games. :) I like that idea, but then again, SW is all about fighting pointlessly! Wouldn't have a purpose without fighting. After all it's is called 'System Wars'...
[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] I like that idea, but then again, SW is all about fighting pointlessly! Wouldn't have a purpose without fighting. After all it's is called 'System Wars'... Oh I know. As a seasoned system warrior, I knowingly engage in the time sink. It's fun to argue with people who have common interests.
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] The Mass Effect series is pretty causal imo, so is Uncharted.
When three of my friends entered the video game market, they had no previous history of owning a single gaming platform, I told them to get a PS3 and play the Assassin's Creed series, Mass Effect series, and the Uncharted series. A good story and character interactions actually helps them stay interested in the game and many times makes them very easy to play along.
ShadowDeathX
I was talking about casual games like Wii Sports and those phone games. Not stuff like Uncharted and Mass Effect.I think that just makes it harder to determine what is casual or not. Well Wii sports and many of "those phone" games aren't meant to have deep story and what not. Their purpose is the gameplay which many of them are fun. Not all games need a good story and not all of them need good gameplay.
Kinect Disneyland is targeted towards children. Kinect Sports is targeted to any family who likes that sort of gameplay. If a gamer feels that this sort of game does not target you properly, he/she can just refuse to buy it.
I agree,but I just agreed with that one dude saying he prefers games with a good story,characters and such.A deeper experience. You threw in Uncharted and Mass Effect and claiming they were casual.I stopped there because I'm not gonna argue about what makes those games casual.It's confusing.
Ok I've been reading and analysing a few numbers and the truth is the consoles sell way more than the PC so how can the PC be the future instead of the consoles?
I'm thinking in about 50 years It would be cool to have a single powerful computer run my house and everything in it. With voice commands, and a place to game that is connected to the computer. That would be epic. Why have a deticated gaming console if you could have one that does everything else(including your laundry). :P
Ok I've been reading and analysing a few numbers and the truth is the consoles sell way more than the PC so how can the PC be the future instead of the consoles?
tjricardo089
Its because the "PC" is changing. Laptops are PC's. Tablets are essentially PC's. Smartphones are essentially PC's. They're just different form factors. imo, the future of gaming is being able to play on anything anywhere.
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