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#1 Wasdie  Moderator
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Ok if sales matter to people so much, why did nobody last gen bash the Gamecube? Only 22 million sold even though it was the cheapest console and had some rock solid titles on it (like RE4, Metroid Prime)?

The PS3 is on a pace to easily break 22 million sold this gen. You have to remember, it has only been about 2 and a half years that the PS3 has been on shelves, and sales are pretty consistent and increase on a yearly basis. Also the PS3 has some amazing titles that have been released or are in development.

So why wasn't the Gamecube bashed to hell and back like the PS3 is this generation?

Was it because Sony didn't deliver with the dual 1080p at 120fps? I'm being serious, I want to hear some good reasons.

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#2 Head_of_games
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Wasn't the gamecube disregarded like the Wii is now?
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Wasn't the gamecube disregarded like the Wii is now?Head_of_games
Yeah pretty much, even though it offered some of the greatest games of last gen. It was still a complete failure by SW standards, yet nobody bashed it like the bash the PS3. I just find it amazing how many people are out there just to bash Sony for no real reason.
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#4 Head_of_games
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Wasn't the gamecube disregarded like the Wii is now?Wasdie
Yeah pretty much, even though it offered some of the greatest games of last gen. It was still a complete failure by SW standards, yet nobody bashed it like the bash the PS3. I just find it amazing how many people are out there just to bash Sony for no real reason.

Be happy people are bashing it. That means they consider it a threat. People don't bash the Wii as much because they seem to think that everyone agrees it stinks. Thats what I have to deal with.
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#5 benje23
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I personally loved the gamecube.

it had a lot of great hits.

I just think it was more aimed at the kids like the wii is now.

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#6 Mongo-Boss
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After 2 gens of Sony domination I think the minority got butt hurt and is now enjoying kicking it while it's down.
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Wasn't the Gamecube bashed? Anyway, that was last gen. :P
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#8 Wasdie  Moderator
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After 2 gens of Sony domination I think the minority got butt hurt and is now enjoying kicking it while it's down.Mongo-Boss
Sounds like a good reason. Even with their bashing, the PS3 is doing alright all things considered. It will come in a 3rd place, but still enough to consider it competition.
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In SW, it's all bout the lems and the cows.
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#10 EuroMafia
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GC was hated, I remember telling people I owned a Gamecube, and they just lol'd (also had PS2 btw) PS3 is more of a threat than GC was, that is probably why fanboys bash it. PS3 should be happy it's getting hate, GC was pretty much disregarded on the forums. I would have taken bashing.
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#11 MetroidPrimePwn
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1) It was totally ignored, much like the Wii is now. It's all XBox vs. PlayStation on System Wars, with some PC thrown in every now and then.

2) The XBox only sold a few million more, and since the PS2 was several times ahead in sales over both of them, it would've been silly for XBox to brag about sales, and PlayStation saw both of them as equally far behind.

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because Sony was the winner last gen. People just like knocking the ps3 due to it's fall from the throne.
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Wasn't the Gamecube bashed? Anyway, that was last gen. :PJandurin
Yeah, but not nearly to the extent the PS3 is on a daily basis. Also people held the Gamecube much higher than the PS3 mainly because it had a few really killer titles on it, much like what is happening to the PS3.
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#14 nintendofreak_2
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It probably wasn't bashed because it and the Xbox were fairly close in sales and games (I believe). I'm sure most of the hate was against the PS2 or against the GC and Xbox combined.
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Because the XBox only sold 3 million more?MetroidPrimePwn
Well that was Microsofts first console. Nintendo had pretty much controlled the market until the PS1 came around. Then after the slooping sales of the N64 after the SNES, the gamecube was an utter flop, but nobody seemed to care like they do with the PS3 and its slower and rather floppy sales.
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#16 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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It was still hated on, just like every console is.
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#17 EuroMafia
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Also, every generation is different.
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#18 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Wasn't the Gamecube bashed? Anyway, that was last gen. :PWasdie
Yeah, but not nearly to the extent the PS3 is on a daily basis. Also people held the Gamecube much higher than the PS3 mainly because it had a few really killer titles on it, much like what is happening to the PS3.

you kidding? The gamecube got alot more hate. Remember the purple lunchbox stigma?
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#19 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Wasn't the Gamecube bashed? Anyway, that was last gen. :PShinobishyguy
Yeah, but not nearly to the extent the PS3 is on a daily basis. Also people held the Gamecube much higher than the PS3 mainly because it had a few really killer titles on it, much like what is happening to the PS3.

you kidding? The gamecube got alot more hate. Remember the purple lunchbox stigma?

I don't really remember that, and I was on these fourms since 2003. I always was big into the Xbox vs PS2 threads (PS2 FTW btw). So I guess I never noticed. Whoops probably just answered my own post :P.
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#20 ragek1ll589
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Also, every generation is different.EuroMafia

Exactly. The PS3 is getting a lot of hate because Sony is no longer at the top of the industry (where it was with the PS2). Broken promises and high expectations have led to a lot of people expressing their disappointment with Sony this generation.

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#21 farnham
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]GC was hated, I remember telling people I owned a Gamecube, and they just lol'd (also had PS2 btw) PS3 is more of a threat than GC was, that is probably why fanboys bash it. PS3 should be happy it's getting hate, GC was pretty much disregarded on the forums. I would have taken bashing.

I dont think the PS3 is a threat to the Wii.. Its for the 360 maybe.. but then the GC was a threat to the Xbox as well.. The GC was not ignored.. it was bashed for Zelda WW and Mario sunshine and other so called kiddie games.. And if some of you guys really think that the Wii is being ignored you should just look at the sales..
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]Also, every generation is different.ragek1ll589

Exactly. The PS3 is getting a lot of hate because Sony is no longer at the top of the industry (where it was with the PS2). Broken promises and high expectations have led to a lot of people expressing their disappointment with Sony this generation.

I don't really call that broken promises, as much as overblown goals from a really arrogent PR staff that has long been removed from Sony.
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Ok if sales matter to people so much, why did nobody last gen bash the Gamecube? Only 22 million sold even though it was the cheapest console and had some rock solid titles on it (like RE4, Metroid Prime)?

The PS3 is on a pace to easily break 22 million sold this gen. You have to remember, it has only been about 2 and a half years that the PS3 has been on shelves, and sales are pretty consistent and increase on a yearly basis. Also the PS3 has some amazing titles that have been released or are in development.

So why wasn't the Gamecube bashed to hell and back like the PS3 is this generation?

Was it because Sony didn't deliver with the dual 1080p at 120fps? I'm being serious, I want to hear some good reasons.

Wasdie

Basically PS 3 is a threat lemmings have stopped using the "PS 3 has no Games' so they have to depend on the sales to win in these forums, truthfully they would kill to have the games that are on the PS 3 like MGS 4, little big planet , killzone 2 and God of War 3 etc but the 360 wont and can't have them.

They can't use games PS 3>>>>>>360

they can't use reliability PS 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>360

Sales 360 >>>>>>>>>>>>PS 3

even though as Sony showed us when the PS 3 got a price cut it was outselling microsoft for 8 months straight the beating M$ took was so bad that microsoft was forced to do a price cut.

isn't that something the PS 3 was still more expensive than the 360 but still managed to outsell it for 8 months in a row only to have m$ cut it's price even more.

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#25 EuroMafia
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This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.Aljosa23
:P Someone needs to make a GUFU GOTY thread (seeing as people are pretty much making GOTY threads for every website) MGS4 won there too btw.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.EuroMafia
:P Someone needs to make a GUFU GOTY thread (seeing as people are pretty much making GOTY threads for every website) MGS4 won there too btw.

We already did... Do you not check our own fourms?
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#27 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.Wasdie
:P Someone needs to make a GUFU GOTY thread (seeing as people are pretty much making GOTY threads for every website) MGS4 won there too btw.

We already did... Do you not check our own fourms?

I meant posting the GUFU results on System Wars :P
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.Wasdie
:P Someone needs to make a GUFU GOTY thread (seeing as people are pretty much making GOTY threads for every website) MGS4 won there too btw.

We already did... Do you not check our own fourms?

I'm pretty sure he means in SW. :P
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This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.Aljosa23

Promotional considerations paid for by AT&T and Bridgestone Tires :P

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.ragek1ll589

Promotional considerations paid for by AT&T and Bridgestone Tires :P

I thought we lost that sponsorship?
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#31 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.Wasdie

Promotional considerations paid for by AT&T and Bridgestone Tires :P

I thought we lost that sponsorship?

They came back once I joined.
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#32 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.Wasdie

Promotional considerations paid for by AT&T and Bridgestone Tires :P

I thought we lost that sponsorship?

No, of course not. We are also looking into signing a deal with Coca-Cola or Pepsi. Still haven't decided. :P

Edit: Poor old Was, got his thread jacked. :(

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#33 ragek1ll589
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This thread is sponsored by the Gamespot User Fellowship Union.Wasdie

Promotional considerations paid for by AT&T and Bridgestone Tires :P

I thought we lost that sponsorship?

No, I hooked Bridgestone back in last night after a 4 hour meeting. We lost Capital One though.

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I wasn't a System Wars member way back in 2002, 2003, 2004, but I do remember the Gamecube getting bashed by a lot of gamers.
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#35 magiciandude
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That's not what I remembered when I was here in '05. The GC was being bashed more for it's sales than for games.

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#36 Riverwolf007
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So you are saying PS3 bashing is based on sales?

I thought it was because they ruined most of the money franchises like Socom, Wipeout(by selling you PSP tracks upscaled), GT5P(by putting out a half @$$ed effort) showed nothing but contempt for the consumers, made you install all your games because they Trojan horsed a slow reading data format into a game system(if they force you to install why not just put in a cd-rom drive?) and sold a hidef movie player that coulden't even play in hi-def out of the box without having to by a seperate cable. ( Btw we all know I could go on with that for two dozen or so more things but lets call that enough for my point.)

But really according to you the bashing is based on it's lackluster sales? Seriously? Did you guys get selective amnesia while I was away?

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#37 BumFluff122
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Last gen they bashed everything in SW that wasn't a PS2.
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#38 killab2oo5
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I wasn't here during the PS2 days,but maybe because the "cows" were arrogant due to the sales of the PS2 and thought they were unbeatable. Perhaps they were elitist...you know kinda like now how the PC gamers and 360 gamers are because they have the most high quality titles (by Gamespot scores?),and now it's karma biting them in the butt?
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#40 Parasomniac
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Gamecube didn't come out at $599 with Nintendo expecting a monopoly like Sony did with PS3. Sony pissed a lot of people off this gen.
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#41 foxhound_fox
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You never noticed people claiming it "had not games," which of whom are the same people still claiming to this day it still never had games?
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Ok if sales matter to people so much, why did nobody last gen bash the Gamecube? Only 22 million sold even though it was the cheapest console and had some rock solid titles on it (like RE4, Metroid Prime)?

The PS3 is on a pace to easily break 22 million sold this gen. You have to remember, it has only been about 2 and a half years that the PS3 has been on shelves, and sales are pretty consistent and increase on a yearly basis. Also the PS3 has some amazing titles that have been released or are in development.

So why wasn't the Gamecube bashed to hell and back like the PS3 is this generation?

Was it because Sony didn't deliver with the dual 1080p at 120fps? I'm being serious, I want to hear some good reasons.

Wasdie

Actually, that's exactly why. You see, Sony used to be the "cool" company, even as recent as 2005. But around 2006, they started building up the hype for the PS3, and all the arrogance, trash-talking, and generally crappy attitude backfired, big-time. The gaming community slowly started turning against them, similar to what happened to Nintendo with their N64 arrogance and hype. Their E3 2006 conference was disastrous and almost single-handedly caused a backlash against them in the gaming community. They embarassed themselves badly and suddenly, Sony wasn't so "cool" anymore in the eyes of gamers. Oh, and the insane $600 price point didn't help either.

Throughout the rest of 2006, Sony's arrogance grew, and they kept making more ridiculous claims, while the 360 started gaining real momentum and many PS2 owners decided to ignore the PS3 and buy 360s instead. So yeah, Sony pretty much brought on all the hate by themselves, with their whacky claims, trash-talking, unlikeable public attitude, and of course, the jump-the-shark moment that was E3 '06. According to Sony, PS3 was supposed to utterly destroy the competition in every way possible, and now that that's obviously not happened, people are just rubbing it in Sony's face.
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#43 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Wasn't the gamecube disregarded like the Wii is now?Wasdie
Yeah pretty much, even though it offered some of the greatest games of last gen. It was still a complete failure by SW standards, yet nobody bashed it like the bash the PS3. I just find it amazing how many people are out there just to bash Sony for no real reason.

Nintendo can fail as much as they want and no one cares, it's Nintendo man. I love my Gamecube though, still buying games for it
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It's just okay to hate Sony. Fanboys just have to let out all the hate they have suffered from these past two generations.
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#45 Gamingcucumber
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What are you talking about? The Gamecube and Nintendo was bashed to mush last gen. I still remember the daily (Nintendo dead last and buried) topics, and the Gamecube played a major part in people doubting both the Wii and the DS. The only thing was that after the generation when people went back and saw what kind of quality exclusives the console actually had, they stopped bashing it. I've never seen a console been so picked on until now with the Wii.
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#46 rgame1
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i bashed it. cos it was purple. plus, PS3 sales are slowing yearly.
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Well, it DID receive hate. Gamecube was practically known for having game droughts.
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#48 thetruespin
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the funny thing is, I think the cube pushed much netter graphics than the ps2.. hell, compare the Res4 versions. But yeah, the cube suffered from a lack of games but, occasionally, it would get game so jaw dropping people would buy the system just to play it.
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Becuase it wasn't possible for anybody with a soul to hate that beautiful purple lunch box.
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#50 Toriko42
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i bashed it. cos it was purple. rgame1
:lol: Mine's black though