Which company do you favor more? Nvidia or AMD?

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#51 sinpkr
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i really dont care. whatever is best for the price and performance. i have gone from nvidia gpu's to ati and back

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#52 DudeNtheRoom
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I've always been a Nvidia fan. They have always treated me right and never had bad drivers. I've heard horror stories from ppl who bought ATI cards and eventhough they might not have the fastest card every time a new one comes out, they get there soon and I can afford to wait.
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#53 Metaw
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Always been using AMD products because they never fail on me, NEVER.

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#54 Wings_008
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for me over-clocking an Nvidia card is easier
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#55 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Catalyst = more stable than Geforce drives. In my experience of course, but nvidia's drivers seem to always seem to crash much more than when i have had ATI cards.topsemag55

I've never experienced a crash with a WHQL-certified nVidia driver, not in 7 years.

The latest WHQL version has a built-in uninstaller if you choose to use it to clean out the old.

Depends on the Geforce chip stepping.

Laptops

Model: ASUS G1S, 2007 era, Geforce 8600M GT with 256MB GDDR3 (1400Mhz). Died due NVIDIA bumpgate. Strike 1. The motherboard was replaced. Class action suit was initiated for DELL and HP laptops with Geforce 8x00M. ASUS replaced laptops with NVIDIA bumpgate with no questions asked.

Model: ASUS G1SN, 2008 era, Geforce 9500M GS with 512MB GDDR2 (800Mhz), still works. Use to replace the dead ASUS G1S. Despite GPU highter model number, the replacement laptop's so-called "upgrade"(according to ASUS) is a down grade i.e. slower VRAM speed and lower 3DMarks score. Strike 2 .

Model: ASUS N80-VN, 2008 era, Geforce 9650M GT unstable with Windows 7 32bit and X64 i.e. BSOD for all driver released. The motherboard was replaced and laptop vendor gave-up fixing it. ASUS told me to stick with Windows Vista. Strike 3. This caused me to buy ex-demo Sony Vaio VGN-FW45 laptop with AMD Mobility Radeon HD 4650 with 512MB GDDR3. Sometime late in 2010, NVIDIA managed to fixed the ASUS N80-VN's Geforce 9650M GT for Windows 7 32bit, still unstable with X64.

In total, I wasted about $4500 AUD for the two of ASUS+NVIDIA based laptops (most of the cost recovered via income tax returns).I'm weary of spending another $2500 AUD laptop with NVIDIA mobilegraphics...I monitor laptopvideo2go.com

In 2010 Q2, I bought DELL Studio XPS 1645 with AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5730 and I yet to encounter a major issue with this laptop. I plan to replace this laptop in 2013 or the next DirectX 12.

Also, I yet to encounter a major issue with my old Sony Vaio VGN-FW45 laptop.

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#56 illmatic87
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[QUOTE="KABCOOL"]

I don't really care what brand it is. I am just looking for the best performance per dollar.

MonsieurX

Same here. GTX 460 currently wins

This too, a pretty sustainable card as well.

I think I favor Nvidia as a company though due to this

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#57 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="KABCOOL"]

I don't really care what brand it is. I am just looking for the best performance per dollar.

illmatic87

Same here. GTX 460 currently wins

This too, a pretty sustainable card as well.

I think I favor Nvidia as a company though due to this

AMD has it's own green initiatives. http://www.amd.com/us/aboutamd/corporate-responsibility/environmental-performance/Pages/enviromental-performance.aspx

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#58 LovePotionNo9
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No preference, but I did go Nvidia this time for my next computer.

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#59 HaloinventedFPS
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Nvidia do alot more for PC gaming

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#60 ExESGO
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I'm more of an Nvdia guy, but I do find AMDs pretty good (god, just switch it back to ATI, it sounds much better).
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#61 WilliamRLBaker
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AMD/ATI ATI never failed me unlike nvidia where I had 2 gpus stock speeds burn out on me.

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#62 1q3er5
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AMD, not so much because I hate Nvidia or anything, but because I don't want Intel to have a monopoly.
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#63 Raymundo_Manuel
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My first video card was the 9800pro, and it was very pro 8) In my most current build is an ATI 5770, but I have used Nvidia cards between my 9800pro, and now.

But I always go AMD processors.

AMD looks out for poor people :P

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#64 jwsoul
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AMD/ATI, much more stable drivers.

ferret-gamer
Really? Naaa NVDIA all the way many games are designed around NVDIA software its not a great leap to see who the more stable choice is. Drivers are Drivers Roll back one if you have a problem with one.
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#65 Solid_Tango
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Nvidia and Intel for me..
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#66 NLahren
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nv and intel for me
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#67 abuabed
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I usually go with Nvidia, though I have nothing against ATI. psst, I knew you'd take it from PC Hardware Forum to SW eventually :P
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ATI/AMD, better value and much more efficient. Nvidia has to pay off developers to make the games run better on their cards in order to gain an edge.
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#69 hiphops_savior
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AMD, not so much because I hate Nvidia or anything, but because I don't want Intel to have a monopoly.1q3er5
You do realize that Intel doens't own Nvidia like AMD owns ATI, right?
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#70 dontshackzmii
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amd is a smarter choice

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#71 vguy555
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Nvidia for me

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#72 Phoenix534
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I don't really have a preference. It's just whatever card has the best price/performance ratio. When I upgraded my card, the 460 GTX was the best choice so I went with it.

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#73 GTSaiyanjin2
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I have never bought an ATI/AMD card, so I guess I'm an Nvidia guy :P

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#74 rogerjak
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AMD Fanboy.

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[QUOTE="1q3er5"]AMD, not so much because I hate Nvidia or anything, but because I don't want Intel to have a monopoly.hiphops_savior
You do realize that Intel doens't own Nvidia like AMD owns ATI, right?

I imagine that he thinks buying an AMD CPU and GPU will be the most effective thing he can do to contribute to AMD's success.
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#76 blaznwiipspman1
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I don't really have a preference. It's just whatever card has the best price/performance ratio. When I upgraded my card, the 460 GTX was the best choice so I went with it.

Phoenix534

^^ best answer lol

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#77 MK-Professor
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amd is a smarter choice

dontshackzmii

so the peopel that buy nvidia cards are nvidiots?

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#78 heretrix
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Nvidia. I hate the Catalyst driver suite. I've always had issues with it, to the point that I refuse to purchase another AMD video card.

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#79 heretrix
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AMD/ATI ATI never failed me unlike nvidia where I had 2 gpus stock speeds burn out on me.

WilliamRLBaker

That might be a card manufacturer issue rather than an Nvidia problem.

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#80 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

amd is a smarter choice

MK-Professor

so the peopel that buy nvidia cards are nvidiots?

This thread is over.

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#81 topsemag55
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and yes, they overheat badly.

rawr89

Don't know where you get that from...my nVidia is at 49 C right now (72 F in room), and it topped at 77 C while running Dead Space a while ago.:?

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#82 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

AMD/ATI, much more stable drivers.

jwsoul

Really? Naaa NVDIA all the way many games are designed around NVDIA software its not a great leap to see who the more stable choice is. Drivers are Drivers Roll back one if you have a problem with one.

This says a great deal. You don't just "pay a fee" to get the rights to display the TWIMTBP Logo on box and intro screens - developers actually crack open the nVidia Tech Manuals, and write GPU-specific graphics commands into the game's executable.

There are dozens of games that have the Logo - The Witcher is one of them, World in Conflict, and the rest are listed at the nZone website.

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that's just marketing. I hope no one actually buys into that lol. my 4850 plays the "the way it's meant to be played" gamesFINE. better than fine lol.

well.....I like them both equally, I'm no brand loyalist..........I just choose at the time depending on who has the best "bang for buck". the 8800gt was ace.....the 4850 was ace....now the GTX 460 is ace. they each have their days. :-)

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#84 topsemag55
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ATI/AMD, better value and much more efficient. Nvidia has to pay off developers to make the games run better on their cards in order to gain an edge.hiphops_savior

No, they just incorporate fixes in their drivers.

See Release Highlights for 260.99 version. They name specific games for 3D Vision, SLI, etc.

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#85 Hakkai007
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[QUOTE="rawr89"]

and yes, they overheat badly.

topsemag55

Don't know where you get that from...my nVidia is at 49 C right now (72 F in room), and it topped at 77 C while running Dead Space a while ago.:?

My 8800gt has been running fine since 2007.

I even overclock it on air when playing games like Metro 2033.

I can have a higher idle temp but it usually never reach 80c unless it's a game like Crysis or Metro which might hit 82C at most.

In the winter it will never hit 80c even with Crysis.

Right now it is idling around 51C which is perfectly fine.

Most games give temps around 72C to 78C depending on the load.

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#86 topsemag55
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that's just marketing. I hope no one actually buys into that lol. my 4850 plays the "the way it's meant to be played" gamesFINE. better than fine lol.

lespaul1919

Writing GPU-specific code into a game =/= marketing.

In other words, utilizing the Command Set straight out of the cards' processor.

Can ATI do real-time Volumetric smoke in Direct 3D 10?

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[QUOTE="KABCOOL"]

I don't really care what brand it is. I am just looking for the best performance per dollar.

MonsieurX
Same here. GTX 460 currently wins

Which is why I got my 460
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#88 heretrix
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

that's just marketing. I hope no one actually buys into that lol. my 4850 plays the "the way it's meant to be played" gamesFINE. better than fine lol.

topsemag55

Writing GPU-specific code into a game =/= marketing.

In other words, utilizing the Command Set straight out of the cards' processor.

And not to even mention all of the PHYSX stuff.

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#89 heretrix
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="KABCOOL"]

I don't really care what brand it is. I am just looking for the best performance per dollar.

jaqulle999

Same here. GTX 460 currently wins

Which is why I got my 460

Proud owner of the GTX 460 1 gig. I love it.

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#90 goodtobeback
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cant go wrong with either one.

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#91 goodtobeback
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

that's just marketing. I hope no one actually buys into that lol. my 4850 plays the "the way it's meant to be played" gamesFINE. better than fine lol.

heretrix

Writing GPU-specific code into a game =/= marketing.

In other words, utilizing the Command Set straight out of the cards' processor.

And not to even mention all of the PHYSX stuff.

barly any games use PHYSX.

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#92 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

Writing GPU-specific code into a game =/= marketing.

In other words, utilizing the Command Set straight out of the cards' processor.

goodtobeback

And not to even mention all of the PHYSX stuff.

barly any games use PHYSX.

Oh really?

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#93 Velocitas8
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Neither. I buy what looks best at the time (near my price point.)

Both are excellent companies, so manufacturer actually matters more to me than which of the two designed the technology.

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#94 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"] [QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

AMD/ATI, much more stable drivers.

topsemag55

Really? Naaa NVDIA all the way many games are designed around NVDIA software its not a great leap to see who the more stable choice is. Drivers are Drivers Roll back one if you have a problem with one.

This says a great deal. You don't just "pay a fee" to get the rights to display the TWIMTBP Logo on box and intro screens - developers actually crack open the nVidia Tech Manuals, and write GPU-specific graphics commands into the game's executable.

There are dozens of games that have the Logo - The Witcher is one of them, World in Conflict, and the rest are listed at the nZone website.

With CUDA 1.0/1.1/1.3 devices**, NVIDIA has kitbashed Microsoft's DX10.0 standard.

**The so-called DX10.0 Geforce 8/9/2x0.

An example of this anti-competitive standards breaking behaviour, http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2008/10/22/nvidia-gpus-support-dx10-1-features-in-far-cry-2/1

Instead of supporting DirectX 10.1, NVIDIA kitbashed DirectX 10.0 standard with their own extensions.

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[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]And not to even mention all of the PHYSX stuff.

heretrix

barly any games use PHYSX.

Oh really?

that list is very outdated
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

AMD/ATI, much more stable drivers.

jwsoul
Really? Naaa NVDIA all the way many games are designed around NVDIA software its not a great leap to see who the more stable choice is. Drivers are Drivers Roll back one if you have a problem with one.

Thats nice, the drivers for ATI cards are still less prone to crashing than Nvidia's drivers.
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#97 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

that's just marketing. I hope no one actually buys into that lol. my 4850 plays the "the way it's meant to be played" gamesFINE. better than fine lol.

topsemag55

Writing GPU-specific code into a game =/= marketing.

In other words, utilizing the Command Set straight out of the cards' processor.

Can ATI do real-time Volumetric smoke in Direct 3D 10?

AMD Radeon HDs can do real-time volumetric smoke. http://www.gamerendering.com/2008/10/09/real-time-volumetric-smoke/

"This approach to render volumetric smoke uses the new feature of DirectX10 that enables rendering to 3D textures. It uses voxelization of the geometry to enable the smoke to flow around and react to the geometry in a realistic way"

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#98 Kokuro_Kun
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I bought my first video card a Nvidia because the card itself was nicer looking than the AMD i saw on the shelf. Until they let me down, i will continue to build with them.
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#99 Kokuro_Kun
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

AMD/ATI, much more stable drivers.

ferret-gamer
Really? Naaa NVDIA all the way many games are designed around NVDIA software its not a great leap to see who the more stable choice is. Drivers are Drivers Roll back one if you have a problem with one.

Thats nice, the drivers for ATI cards are still less prone to crashing than Nvidia's drivers.

Says you? Mine are just fine man.
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

that's just marketing. I hope no one actually buys into that lol. my 4850 plays the "the way it's meant to be played" gamesFINE. better than fine lol.

ronvalencia

Writing GPU-specific code into a game =/= marketing.

In other words, utilizing the Command Set straight out of the cards' processor.

Can ATI do real-time Volumetric smoke in Direct 3D 10?

AMD Radeon HDs can do real-time volumetric smoke. http://www.gamerendering.com/2008/10/09/real-time-volumetric-smoke/

"This approach to render volumetric smoke uses the new feature of DirectX10 that enables rendering to 3D textures. It uses voxelization of the geometry to enable the smoke to flow around and react to the geometry in a realistic way"

Sounds fancy, but i doubt that will be very effective when most games are built on Nvidia's cards.