[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Just looking at PURE output of real retail 1st Party / 2nd Party games for the Wii and real 1st Party/2nd Party retail games for the PS3, PS3 wins easily. It's just output, and quality games.
Nintendo is one of my FAVORITE developers of all time, but they have been divided with their resources, and have not consistently delivered for me and my posse this generation. That being said, when they do step up, it's great, but too many Wii Party, Wii Music, Wii Sports type games aren't going to make up for the periodic releases like Super Mario Galaxy 2, etc.
It's a close race, and NOSTALGIA is hard to fight for me, the recent Nintendo momentum is hard to ignore (SMG2 is AWESOME!!!), but Sony has the best 1st Party now on the PS3, second by Wii...and Xbox isn't even in this equation (They seemed like they gave up, with an occassional Fable/Halo/GeoW, but prefer 3rd Party deals instead).
djsifer01 - "No contest, Sony has the best FP development in gaming. How is Nintendo winning this poll? There FP development is not even in the same league as Sony's"
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It's simple, the Nostalgia, Super Mario Galaxy 2 recent release, and the recent good E3 showing from Nintendo. It's just the Nintendo momentum combined with this thread's timing. It's fine though, Nintendo is quite amazing.
ActicEdge
I don't really see why this has to be Nostalgia. The thread asked us what company we think has the best 1st party. It didn't ask me to make up my mind based off of SW facts but rather your own opinion. I find Sony first party overated, I think in terms of output Nintendo releases more titles that down the line I am not going to say been there down that where as Sony is more me too. Sony is really good but to me they get too much praise. Nostalgia has nothing to do with me think inFamous is boring, LBP is a mediocore platformer and more shooters is just more shooters and they need more than to be great to grip me. I think this idea is simply a Sony bias, not an actual profound reason as to why Sony is better. Not when the thread is asking who makes better games in your opinion.
First of all, in SW many posters will just vote the company line, even if they don't personally believe it.
Secondly, many have opinions about things without having played or beat any of the games. I know posters that don't have a PS3, or a Wii or have never played Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Uncharted 2 and have extreme opinions on those games...those guys probably shouldn't be voting, that's true. I even acknowledge my nostalgia bias, as I grew up on Nintendo and Super Nintendo, I can't help it. I'm not going to pretend I didn't love Nintendo.
The key difference is I own all the Nintendo systems, and I can say that I don't feel Nintendo's presense like I did gens before. I also know Nintendo has momentum right now specifically in SW with SMG2 score and E3's showing. Specifially, I find Nintendo's 1st party games lack high presentation values, voice acting, no online modes (or gimped online), lack of CG or story, lack of HD, and many of my favorite Wii games don't actually need the Wii motion, like it's tacked on. They are still brilliant games, but I think Nintendo gets a free pass from fans on certain levels, and those same standards are not applied to other companies (Capcom, Konami, Sony, whoever). Other companies couldn't get away with not delivering on so many fronts so often. This wasn't always the case, but Technology just isn't Nintendo's forte like it once was, at least on the console games level, imo. It's fine, but you mentioned what you thought specifically, and I thought I owed you a larger explanation. Nintendo is awesome, but they are divided by supporting the Nongamers and the core gamers, and I get that...but I can still "feel" the lack of output for me, year in and year out.
That being said, I think the idea of ignoring nostalgia votes is simply a Nintendo bias, not an actual profound reason as to why Nintendo is better. I would rather a company deliver 30 AA-AAA games to me rather than 10 AA-AAA games. It's all about opinion sure, but I wanted to share mine as to variables some people in SW would NEVER consider. Now they can at least consider the notion, even if it is to disagree with the idea.
In the end, this is a thread about opinions, and that was yours and this is mine. Maybe my post doesn't apply to you, maybe your post doesn't apply to me, but there are those they might apply to...and they should read it.
I read the Thread's TITLE, saw a post, and attempted to answer for some of the votes. Whatever, it doesn't matter to me in the end, just an observer.
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