Which console company experienced the biggest fall from grace?

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="no_submission"][QUOTE="THEWINDWAKER10"]

Sony. Hands down. They got too cocky, and let them get ahead of themselves.

ChiChiMonKilla

People are still buying PS3's, when retailers start sending PS3's out into the Arizona desert where all the Atari Jaguars are then you can start the violin music, but until then Sony is still pretty much in the game.

People still bought the GC until Nintendo recently pulled the plug, but the writing was on the wall years ago...Lets stop being hypocritical about the PS3 because its a Sony machine. If the PS3 was made by MS, Ninty or Sega we all know that the system would be considered a massive failure regardless if people are currently buying it....

failure =/= immediate death of a system, just ask the N64...

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Take of your fanboy goggles please join us in the real world :lol:

Take your fanboy and beer goggles off..The Sony clan is comparing the PS3 sales (a system readily available of shelves since launch) to a system that was damn near sold out for almost a year (PS2)?!?!? Gotta love that twisted fanboy logic. As for your PS3 clearance sale, save that for the uniformed gamer who fell for that hustle...

Ownage denied

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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="no_submission"][QUOTE="THEWINDWAKER10"]

Sony. Hands down. They got too cocky, and let them get ahead of themselves.

FatalDomain

People are still buying PS3's, when retailers start sending PS3's out into the Arizona desert where all the Atari Jaguars are then you can start the violin music, but until then Sony is still pretty much in the game.

Sorry to inform you but last gen systems sales serves no purpose this gen (you dont see other companies touting sale figures for old products do you? The 2004 Mercedes is eating up the sales charts!!! Sounds silly doesnt it?). And we as gamers know the real reason why the PS3 passed 360 sales this month so no real accomplishment there. I find it funny how Sony fans will make a sales comparison with the 360 but forget to add that the Wii stomped everyone in sales...OOOoooh the PS3 sold well for a few weeks whoopty doo, my friend....Thats like celebrating your favorite fighter finally got in a good combination on the opponent, but ignore the fact he is being brutally beaten the entire bout.

As for your claim that Sony owned E3 07, thats just a opinion shared by few but the majority felt that the entire show was dull and boring with no clear cut winner.

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Thats because no other companies in the gaming market have sales figures on last gen consoles to tout:)

And I think the biggest "fall of grace" was Atari followed by Nintendo followed by Sony. Atari killed a whole market, cmon, instant win there:P Nintendo were the big thing but then they lost it all to the playstation(all though now it seems they are taking it all back) Sony was the big thing, Playstation was "cool" and popular. Everyone wanted a playstation and loved sony but then sony ruined it all with crap PR and pricing their console too high.

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]

Sony shouldn't be in that list. The PS3 is not dead yet, far from it. There's still a long way to go.

To answer your question, i'll have to say Sega, much to my dislike. I wish they were still around.

no_submission

The PS3 doesnt have to be dead for it to fall...Just as the Walkman product line was once a bad mofo, its struggling to be seen in a market with fierce competitors. the same can be said with the PS3.

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Listen the facts are right their in front of you, Atari had the biggest screw up followed by Sega.

In your last post(long unnecessary post) you said Sony lost support... Proof? Cause last time I checked PS3 is getting/has plenty of third party multiplats while Wii on the other hand......:(

Sorry but for a product line to have damn near 90% of the industry support (Xbox 1 got scraps from Japanese devs, and mainstream ports didnt utilize the hardware, Ninty was just left in the cold), to have its rivals share/surpass its support is down right embarrassing. Just because devs havent completely jumped ship doesnt mean things are peachy in Sonyland. If the PS3 was what it was touted to be devs would not have even considered supporting the 360, they would have left it alone until Sony launched as they once did with the Dreamcast...

As for the Atari, yeah they made mistakes, big huge mistakes, but it was from a time where the world really didnt care about the outcome of gaming (notable business but still considered a hobby). But to witness the current issues with Sony and clout they have lost in a industry they help built, has a heavier impact.

Game On...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="no_submission"][QUOTE="THEWINDWAKER10"]

Sony. Hands down. They got too cocky, and let them get ahead of themselves.

Uzumaki_Naruto5

People are still buying PS3's, when retailers start sending PS3's out into the Arizona desert where all the Atari Jaguars are then you can start the violin music, but until then Sony is still pretty much in the game.

Sorry to inform you but last gen systems sales serves no purpose this gen (you dont see other companies touting sale figures for old products do you? The 2004 Mercedes is eating up the sales charts!!! Sounds silly doesnt it?). And we as gamers know the real reason why the PS3 passed 360 sales this month so no real accomplishment there. I find it funny how Sony fans will make a sales comparison with the 360 but forget to add that the Wii stomped everyone in sales...OOOoooh the PS3 sold well for a few weeks whoopty doo, my friend....Thats like celebrating your favorite fighter finally got in a good combination on the opponent, but ignore the fact he is being brutally beaten the entire bout.

As for your claim that Sony owned E3 07, thats just a opinion shared by few but the majority felt that the entire show was dull and boring with no clear cut winner.

Game On...

Thats because no other companies in the gaming market have sales figures on last gen consoles to tout:)

And I think the biggest "fall of grace" was Atari followed by Nintendo followed by Sony. Atari killed a whole market, cmon, instant win there:P Nintendo were the big thing but then they lost it all to the playstation(all though now it seems they are taking it all back) Sony was the big thing, Playstation was "cool" and popular. Everyone wanted a playstation and loved sony but then sony ruined it all with crap PR and pricing their console too high.

Im not downplaying Atari and their issues, but IMO they come up second. When Atari fell, console gaming wasnt as popular as it is today (arcades was still the place to be). Also Nintendo was there to pick up the pieces and run with it to make a new market. If Sony fell out of the gaming business (I said IF fanboys, not will....), I know MS or Nintendo isnt strong enough to do it alone in this day and age of gaming. Its the ying yang concept, you need balance of the market. With Sony and their issues, that balance has been disturbed greatly which could lead to overall lack of innovation in the market...

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[QUOTE="PelekotansDream"]SEGA, sony have done real bad recently but they aint out of making consoles like SEGA is.gingerdivid

Atari.

Sega's and Sony's fall didn't effect the industry as greatly as Atari's ...

Im not downplaying Atari and their issues, but IMO they come up second. When Atari fell, console gaming wasnt as popular as it is today (arcades was still the place to be). Also Nintendo was there to pick up the pieces and run with it to make a new market. If Sony fell out of the gaming business (I said IF fanboys, not will....), I know MS or Nintendo isnt strong enough to do it alone in this day and age of gaming. Its the ying yang concept, you need balance of the market. With Sony and their issues, that balance has been disturbed greatly which could lead to overall lack of innovation in the market...

Game On...

FatalDomain

Atari definately.

and stop with the damage control cows. the ps3 isa failure so far and deserves to be on the list.

No excuses, no "but the price", no "but the 3rd partys" no "but the 2008"

Right now in the present time ps3 is coming a distant last, now compareto last gen, in which they came a very, very distant first and thats what I would call a pretty big flop.

Sorry cows just telling it like it is. If it comforts you I'd much rather see sony doing well than microsoft but sony has to learn from the mistakes they made this gen, and cows will be much better off next gen hoopefully,

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Im not downplaying Atari and their issues, but IMO they come up second. When Atari fell, console gaming wasnt as popular as it is today (arcades was still the place to be). Also Nintendo was there to pick up the pieces and run with it to make a new market. If Sony fell out of the gaming business (I said IF fanboys, not will....), I know MS or Nintendo isnt strong enough to do it alone in this day and age of gaming. Its the ying yang concept, you need balance of the market. With Sony and their issues, that balance has been disturbed greatly which could lead to overall lack of innovation in the market...

Game On...

ChiChiMonKilla

someone needs to look at a sales chart.

Atari.

Sega's and Sony's fall didn't effect the industry as greatly as Atari's ...

daqua_99

On paper Atari issues would make it seem like the #1 company to fall from grace, but thats not true. The so called "gaming market crash" was all but invisible to the gamers of that era. The only people that took the hit were the stock holders of the various companies, but overall the gamer didnt know or care what was going on. As a gamers all we knew was (because there were no news outlets for gaming) that we were playing Atari and Colecovision and all of a sudden this Japanese made Nintendo thingy was the new futuristic item being touted....nothing more.

In this day and age of information technology, we have access to the news almost before the company can officially announce it. Gaming is a high visability industry these days and knwoing the "In's and Out's" happening within Sony is the reason why I feel they have fallen the most from grace.

Think of it this way, who would fall further from fall grace Apple of the 1970's, 80's or Microsoft of today? Thats the point Im trying to make folks...

Game On...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Im not downplaying Atari and their issues, but IMO they come up second. When Atari fell, console gaming wasnt as popular as it is today (arcades was still the place to be). Also Nintendo was there to pick up the pieces and run with it to make a new market. If Sony fell out of the gaming business (I said IF fanboys, not will....), I know MS or Nintendo isnt strong enough to do it alone in this day and age of gaming. Its the ying yang concept, you need balance of the market. With Sony and their issues, that balance has been disturbed greatly which could lead to overall lack of innovation in the market...

Game On...

ChiChiMonKilla

[QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Atari.

Sega's and Sony's fall didn't effect the industry as greatly as Atari's ...

FatalDomain

On paper Atari issues would make it seem like the #1 company to fall from grace, but thats not true. The so called "gaming market crash" was all but invisible to the gamers of that era. The only people that took the hit were the stock holders of the various companies, but overall the gamer didnt know or care what was going on. As a gamers all we knew was (because there were no news outlets for gaming) that we were playing Atari and Colecovision and all of a sudden this Japanese made Nintendo thingy was the new futuristic item being touted....nothing more.

In this day and age of information technology, we have access to the news almost before the company can officially announce it. Gaming is a high visability industry these days and knwoing the "In's and Out's" happening within Sony is the reason why I feel they have fallen the most from grace.

Think of it this way, who would fall further from fall grace Apple of the 1970's, 80's or Microsoft of today? Thats the point Im trying to make folks...

Game On...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Im not downplaying Atari and their issues, but IMO they come up second. When Atari fell, console gaming wasnt as popular as it is today (arcades was still the place to be). Also Nintendo was there to pick up the pieces and run with it to make a new market. If Sony fell out of the gaming business (I said IF fanboys, not will....), I know MS or Nintendo isnt strong enough to do it alone in this day and age of gaming. Its the ying yang concept, you need balance of the market. With Sony and their issues, that balance has been disturbed greatly which could lead to overall lack of innovation in the market...

Game On...

ChiChiMonKilla

I have read your Sony fanboy based drivel over the last few days, come back with a clear head about gaming. Once again you are comparing sales from globally sold out systems (PS2. 360) to sales of a readily available system (PS3)...no contest. But hey when you want to believe in the hype Sony fed you this gen, a fanboy will hang onto every word as if its law...

In case you havent been keeping up with gaming trends, previous gen systems always sell more when newer systems hit the market. You do know there are some folks who enjoy gaming but cant afford the lastest and greatest, so previous gen systems with and boatload of games for pennies on the dollar works for them...

Game On...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Atari.

Sega's and Sony's fall didn't effect the industry as greatly as Atari's ...

gingerdivid

On paper Atari issues would make it seem like the #1 company to fall from grace, but thats not true. The so called "gaming market crash" was all but invisible to the gamers of that era. The only people that took the hit were the stock holders of the various companies, but overall the gamer didnt know or care what was going on. As a gamers all we knew was (because there were no news outlets for gaming) that we were playing Atari and Colecovision and all of a sudden this Japanese made Nintendo thingy was the new futuristic item being touted....nothing more.

In this day and age of information technology, we have access to the news almost before the company can officially announce it. Gaming is a high visability industry these days and knwoing the "In's and Out's" happening within Sony is the reason why I feel they have fallen the most from grace.

Think of it this way, who would fall further from fall grace Apple of the 1970's, 80's or Microsoft of today? Thats the point Im trying to make folks...

Game On...

In monetary terms Sony stockholders are losing billions on SOny's gamble with the PS3....pales in comparison to the few million during the Atari era.

Game On...

sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)zaid55

I thought gingerdivid died?X360PS3AMD05

Resurrected...they do that when a ounce of good news is presented about their console. But go into exile when ownage is upon them...

Game On...

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Im not downplaying Atari and their issues, but IMO they come up second. When Atari fell, console gaming wasnt as popular as it is today (arcades was still the place to be). Also Nintendo was there to pick up the pieces and run with it to make a new market. If Sony fell out of the gaming business (I said IF fanboys, not will....), I know MS or Nintendo isnt strong enough to do it alone in this day and age of gaming. Its the ying yang concept, you need balance of the market. With Sony and their issues, that balance has been disturbed greatly which could lead to overall lack of innovation in the market...

Game On...

FatalDomain

I have read your Sony fanboy based drivel over the last few days, come back with a clear head about gaming. Once again you are comparing sales from globally sold out systems (PS2. 360) to sales of a readily available system (PS3)...no contest. But hey when you want to believe in the hype Sony fed you this gen, a fanboy will hang onto every word as if its law...

In case you havent been keeping up with gaming trends, previous gen systems always sell more when newer systems hit the market. You do know there are some folks who enjoy gaming but cant afford the lastest and greatest, so previous gen systems with and boatload of games for pennies on the dollar works for them...

Game On...

So facts are sony based drivel now lmao

I am a hermit you don't want to see what happens in the pc vs consoles debate if you think I like sony so much :lol:

[QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)gingerdivid

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Atari.

Sega's and Sony's fall didn't effect the industry as greatly as Atari's ...

FatalDomain

On paper Atari issues would make it seem like the #1 company to fall from grace, but thats not true. The so called "gaming market crash" was all but invisible to the gamers of that era. The only people that took the hit were the stock holders of the various companies, but overall the gamer didnt know or care what was going on. As a gamers all we knew was (because there were no news outlets for gaming) that we were playing Atari and Colecovision and all of a sudden this Japanese made Nintendo thingy was the new futuristic item being touted....nothing more.

In this day and age of information technology, we have access to the news almost before the company can officially announce it. Gaming is a high visability industry these days and knwoing the "In's and Out's" happening within Sony is the reason why I feel they have fallen the most from grace.

Think of it this way, who would fall further from fall grace Apple of the 1970's, 80's or Microsoft of today? Thats the point Im trying to make folks...

Game On...

In monetary terms Sony stockholders are losing billions on SOny's gamble with the PS3....pales in comparison to the few million during the Atari era.

Game On...

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)FatalDomain

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)gingerdivid

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)ChiChiMonKilla

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)gingerdivid

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Im not downplaying Atari and their issues, but IMO they come up second. When Atari fell, console gaming wasnt as popular as it is today (arcades was still the place to be). Also Nintendo was there to pick up the pieces and run with it to make a new market. If Sony fell out of the gaming business (I said IF fanboys, not will....), I know MS or Nintendo isnt strong enough to do it alone in this day and age of gaming. Its the ying yang concept, you need balance of the market. With Sony and their issues, that balance has been disturbed greatly which could lead to overall lack of innovation in the market...

Game On...

ChiChiMonKilla

I have read your Sony fanboy based drivel over the last few days, come back with a clear head about gaming. Once again you are comparing sales from globally sold out systems (PS2. 360) to sales of a readily available system (PS3)...no contest. But hey when you want to believe in the hype Sony fed you this gen, a fanboy will hang onto every word as if its law...

In case you havent been keeping up with gaming trends, previous gen systems always sell more when newer systems hit the market. You do know there are some folks who enjoy gaming but cant afford the lastest and greatest, so previous gen systems with and boatload of games for pennies on the dollar works for them...

Game On...

So facts are sony based drivel now lmao

I am a hermit you don't want to see what happens in the pc vs consoles debate if you think I like sony so much :lol:

No YOUR facts are fanboy drivel. Sony pumped the fanboys up full of bogus info and now ya'll are running around like you are a informed gamer with one-sided, extremely bias info "fastest selling system this, record breaking system that" only Sony and its supporters are reporting the garbage.... As for you being hermit, you must have a jeckyl and hide syndrome because if you arent talking about pc gaming, you are hyping the PS3 to the ends of the Earth.

As for you comments about previous gen systems, just because the economically challenged gamer cant afford the lastest and greatest doesnt mean they will just grab any previous gen system available. They pick up the popular system of that era...in this case the PS2. But sales did spike for the Xbox1 and GC as well, just not consistent sales. Also there is no predetermined cut-off point where people stop buying previous gen consoles....the sell while supplies last!!

Game On...

I thought gingerdivid died?X360PS3AMD05

Here's a question, TC.

Which company still has to attain grace?

Which company has the bulk of its hype, this gen, because of coming out with no competition?

Which console would be flopping is released at the same time as the other two?

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)gingerdivid

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

No its called been there, done that...This may all seem like big news for the Playstation era kids, but like I mentioned in a previous post, I seen several companies fall and most of them fell for the exactly reasons...greed and attempted market manipulation!!!

Game On...

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)FatalDomain

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

No its called been there, done that...This may all seem like big news for the Playstation era kids, but like I mentioned in a previous post, I seen several companies fall and most of them fell for the exactly reasons...greed and attempted market manipulation!!!

Game On...

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)FatalDomain

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

No its called been there, done that...This may all seem like big news for the Playstation era kids, but like I mentioned in a previous post, I seen several companies fall and most of them fell for the exactly reasons...greed and attempted market manipulation!!!

Game On...

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="zaid55"]sony fell. i loved the ps2 everyone had one, all my friends had one now only one has one. everyones looking to invest in a 360 or a wii.I myself have a wii buying 360 soon. THE PRICE OF THE PS3 MAY BE GREATER but doesnt sony loose money on every ps3 made? (i read that some where not 100% sure though)X360PS3AMD05

Sony lost money on the PS2 at launch but made it back quickly through software and accessories sales. Once the production costs went down for the system is when Sony really started rolling in the dough. This gen the financial hit per console is at a record high, combine that with the curernt flow of sales and that doesnt make for a pleasing number for the shareholders.

Game On...

Sony.

Seriously that was just bloody embarrassing.

You have a colossal first entrance. And even bigger sophomore, then you get a giant third flop.

Hey, it's like Sony's own Spiderman movie franchise :lol:

I'd still get the console though, it looks to have good games.

FrozenLiquid

Eeeew.... good point about the stinker known as "Spider(Emo)man 3". The best threequel this summer, anyways, is "Bourne Supremacy"! Anyways, I would have to pick Sony as having the biggest fall from grace, so to speak. To dominate the way it did with the PS2, only to have the PS3 come out as subpar, and below (and STILL below) expectations is a pretty big deal. No, they arent dead, and probably wont be... but they wont win this generation.

Atari.

While the rest of you argue what exactly "fall from grace" means, I'm going to point out that Atari did it in every possible way.

They put out a boatload of crap, highlighted by ET.

They isolated everybody who played games and caused the crash.

They lost tons of money.

They went out of the hardware business altogether.

They hit it out of the park: a Grand Slam of failure.

You should have made a poll.

Sony hands down. That antichrist of a system (PS3) should have been aborted.....

Atari.

While the rest of you argue what exactly "fall from grace" means, I'm going to point out that Atari did it in every possible way.

They put out a boatload of crap, highlighted by ET.

They isolated everybody who played games and caused the crash.

They lost tons of money.

They went out of the hardware business altogether.

They hit it out of the park: a Grand Slam of failure.

Ellipson

They put out a boatload of crap, highlighted by ET.

Ellipson

But what about those of us who loved ET and wanted him to "phone home"? :shock:

[QUOTE="Ellipson"]

They put out a boatload of crap, highlighted by ET.

Magical_Zebra

But what about those of us who loved ET and wanted him to "phone home"? :shock:

WTF? :lol:

Ok that made my day....hahahhahaha!

Game On...