Which FPS for 2009 will sell and score more KZ2 or Halo: Odst?

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#1 rybe1025
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I did not put a poll that way to stop people from just posting but not explaining their answer.

So for PS3 and the 360 the two biggest FPS games of the year are KZ2 and Halo" Odst. So which do you think will sell better? Which do you think will score better judging from developer and past history?

There has been 3 Halo games from bungie and ever one of them has been AAA. Also Halo is know as the biggest online multilpayer online game for consoles. Halo 3 has better 1st day sales then any entertainment event every. Includining any moving( such as Harry Potter and Spider Man)

KZ2 developers have never scored above "A" yet for a console. The first KZ2 was considered a flop. KZ2 does have very good graphics.

The reason for this post it I have seen a few times now people acting like KZ2 will be the best selling game this gen. I do not think it will be but just wondering what everyone though.

Remember this last Christmas Resistance 2 and Gears went at it during the busing time of the year and R2 fell far short compared to Gears 2 in sales. Score wise they were the same.

Also Halo 3 has sold more then twice what PS3's best selling game ( MGS3) did do.

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#2 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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honesly don't know, maybe KZ2
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#3 ps3_owns_360Wii
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halo will sell more but Kz2 might score better tahn halo
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#4 jfcundiff
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Most likely Halo due to the name recognition, but Killzone 2 might surprise everyone. It could do really well, and sell better than everyone on here thinks it will. That is if Sony can start advertising the hell out of it.
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The ConduitGiancar

always going against the grain

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#7 Floppy_Jim
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Killzone 2 will probably get better scores, but ODST is more likely to have higher sales. I don't think anyone is expecting KZ 2 to be the best selling game this gen. And LBP has sold far more than Banjo Kazooie N & B, despite releasing around the same time and being a new IP.
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]The Conduitps3_owns_360Wii

always going against the grain

nah, just giving some fun to the thread :twisted:
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#9 Zero5000X
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well halo will sell better simply cause it's halo. I think kz2 will have slightly higher scores. I'm guessing an 8.5 for halo (it's just an expac) here and a 9.0 for kz2.
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For the people saying KZ2 will score better. Can you explain why? For example Halo's online was great with forge and other reasons. What does KZ2 bring that will top what Halo does?
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Killzone 2 will probably get better scores, but ODST is more likely to have higher sales. I don't think anyone is expecting KZ 2 to be the best selling game this gen. And LBP has sold far more than Banjo Kazooie N & B, despite releasing around the same time and being a new IP.Floppy_Jim
I never saw anyone acting like Banjo was going to be a great seller though. Some were excited but how many threads were made saying it was going to be some huge blockbuster for example compare how the PS3 fans did with KZ2 compared how the 360 fans acted with Banjo. Heck since you said LBP just compare the hype on this forum alone between the two games. I say endless threads about LBP heck I still see a bunch. Just saying not sure what the Banjo point was. 360 fans knew it was exclusive but seems only just choose to hype games that they are honestly looking forward to not just because it is exclusive.
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Halo will be better and sell better
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ODST will sell better and most likely be better. Halo 3 doesn't have the 1st day sales record by the way, if I'm not mistaken it's a WoW game.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Killzone 2 will probably get better scores, but ODST is more likely to have higher sales. I don't think anyone is expecting KZ 2 to be the best selling game this gen. And LBP has sold far more than Banjo Kazooie N & B, despite releasing around the same time and being a new IP.rybe1025
I never saw anyone acting like Banjo was going to be a great seller though. Some were excited but how many threads were made saying it was going to be some huge blockbuster for example compare how the PS3 fans did with KZ2 compared how the 360 fans acted with Banjo. Heck since you said LBP just compare the hype on this forum alone between the two games. I say endless threads about LBP heck I still see a bunch. Just saying not sure what the Banjo point was. 360 fans knew it was exclusive but seems only just choose to hype games that they are honestly looking forward to not just because it is exclusive.

Nope, I'm sure the PS3 fans who hyped LBP were honestly looking forward to it. I don't know why I brought it up really, maybe because both games have platforming elements. And seeing as it's made by one of MS's very few 1st party developers, I thought they would have wanted it to sell well.

As for the topic, I think KZ 2 will score better because it's a full game and has had more time put into it.

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KZ2 sales dont count course its bundled !!
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For the people saying KZ2 will score better. Can you explain why? For example Halo's online was great with forge and other reasons. What does KZ2 bring that will top what Halo does?rybe1025
Go look it up dude, there is just too much to write in one post. There are two huge threads on these forums that you can look up. I actually remember telling you this before...

And the topic, Halo: Odst will sell more because it has the world "Halo" in it, but Killzone 2 will be better.

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#17 damedash122
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Killzone wont c the light of day if sony doesnt market it well! and halo will sell more regardless because it is halo! it's an automatic win!

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#18 TheAnnihilation
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KZ2 sales dont count course its bundled !!habkeinbock

Bundled or not, it will not sell more.

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TBH, ODST, Halo has a huge fallowing and fanbase of AAA games, KZ2 has one 6.4(?) Game and a very small fallowing/fanbase.

Of course the fanbase is bigger this time around with KZ2, but Halo ODST will kill it in sales, in reviews, wait and see.

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KZ2 will score well, well 9.0 at least, probably the same as ODST. KZ2 will be out longer so it will sell more, ODST comes out fall 09.
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I would guess Halo: ODST will sell more and that Killzone 2 will score higher. I expect GameSpot to hold ODST up to the standards of a full game, regardless of it being an expansion/budget title.
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]For the people saying KZ2 will score better. Can you explain why? For example Halo's online was great with forge and other reasons. What does KZ2 bring that will top what Halo does?Chutebox
Go look it up dude, there is just too much to write in one post. There are two huge threads on these forums that you can look up. I actually remember telling you this before...

It does not take much to explain since you could have given a brief post of it. Also if you have links to direct me towards and tell me what part to look for where it says KZ2 will be better then a game game like Halo if you did not want to explain.. A part like that since Halo is a icon at this point and such a power in the console game area should stick out on what areas KZ2 will be better. Like I said before Halo is a proven force and a proven seller so I think it will be better in both areas.
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Halo 3: ODST... It's a shooter with Halo in it's name.
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#24 krp008
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If you say KZ2, you are clearly mistaken.

In order for KZ2 to sell well, it needs a fanbase. And you KNOW that since KZ1 was one of the biggest flops ever, either no one played it or people played it but sold it quickly, so i dont think many people will be too hyped for the release of KZ2.

And we all know that anything made by Bungie will sell millions in its first week, and will most likely score AAA as well.

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If you say KZ2, you are clearly mistaken.

In order for KZ2 to sell well, it needs a fanbase. And you KNOW that since KZ1 was one of the biggest flops ever, either no one played it or people played it but sold it quickly, so i dont think many people will be too hyped for the release of KZ2.

And we all know that anything made by Bungie will sell millions in its first week, and will most likely score AAA as well.

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I think it will score better. I am not silly enough to think that it will outsell a game with Halo in the name.
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#26 TheAnnihilation
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I did not put a poll that way to stop people from just posting but not explaining their answer.

So for PS3 and the 360 the two biggest FPS games of the year are KZ2 and Halo" Odst. So which do you think will sell better? Which do you think will score better judging from developer and past history?

There has been 3 Halo games from bungie and ever one of them has been AAA. Also Halo is know as the biggest online multilpayer online game for consoles. Halo 3 has better 1st day sales then any entertainment event every. Includining any moving( such as Harry Potter and Spider Man)

KZ2 developers have never scored above "A" yet for a console. The first KZ2 was considered a flop. KZ2 does have very good graphics.

The reason for this post it I have seen a few times now people acting like KZ2 will be the best selling game this gen. I do not think it will be but just wondering what everyone though.

Remember this last Christmas Resistance 2 and Gears went at it during the busing time of the year and R2 fell far short compared to Gears 2 in sales. Score wise they were the same.

Also Halo 3 has sold more then twice what PS3's best selling game ( MGS3) did do.

rybe1025

Grand Theft Auto IV transcended Halo 3. Killzone 2 the best-selling game this generation? :lol:

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]For the people saying KZ2 will score better. Can you explain why? For example Halo's online was great with forge and other reasons. What does KZ2 bring that will top what Halo does?rybe1025
Go look it up dude, there is just too much to write in one post. There are two huge threads on these forums that you can look up. I actually remember telling you this before...

It does not take much to explain since you could have given a brief post of it. Also if you have links to direct me towards and tell me what part to look for where it says KZ2 will be better then a game game like Halo if you did not want to explain.. A part like that since Halo is a icon at this point and such a power in the console game area should stick out on what areas KZ2 will be better. Like I said before Halo is a proven force and a proven seller so I think it will be better in both areas.

If you really want to know, and I'm guessing you don't, look up the two threads with official in it, I'm not going to do it for you. There is a lot to the MP of Killzone 2, so I don't see how it can be brief.
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#28 krp008
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

I did not put a poll that way to stop people from just posting but not explaining their answer.

So for PS3 and the 360 the two biggest FPS games of the year are KZ2 and Halo" Odst. So which do you think will sell better? Which do you think will score better judging from developer and past history?

There has been 3 Halo games from bungie and ever one of them has been AAA. Also Halo is know as the biggest online multilpayer online game for consoles. Halo 3 has better 1st day sales then any entertainment event every. Includining any moving( such as Harry Potter and Spider Man)

KZ2 developers have never scored above "A" yet for a console. The first KZ2 was considered a flop. KZ2 does have very good graphics.

The reason for this post it I have seen a few times now people acting like KZ2 will be the best selling game this gen. I do not think it will be but just wondering what everyone though.

Remember this last Christmas Resistance 2 and Gears went at it during the busing time of the year and R2 fell far short compared to Gears 2 in sales. Score wise they were the same.

Also Halo 3 has sold more then twice what PS3's best selling game ( MGS3) did do.

TheAnnihilation

Grand Theft Auto IV transcended Halo 3. Killzone 2 the best-selling game this generation? :lol:

GTA4 was on two major consoles... And GTA4 on the 360 alone didnt come anywhere close to the sales of Halo 3

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If you say KZ2, you are clearly mistaken.

In order for KZ2 to sell well, it needs a fanbase. And you KNOW that since KZ1 was one of the biggest flops ever, either no one played it or people played it but sold it quickly, so i dont think many people will be too hyped for the release of KZ2.

And we all know that anything made by Bungie will sell millions in its first week, and will most likely score AAA as well.

krp008

Must suck for new IPs then....

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#30 Zero5000X
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ODST will sell better and most likely be better. Halo 3 doesn't have the 1st day sales record by the way, if I'm not mistaken it's a WoW game. Mongo-Boss

nah. WotLK is the fastest selling PC game ever but GTAIV is the fastest selling entertainment product ever (Halo 3 before it and Spider-Man 3 before that).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV

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[QUOTE="krp008"]

If you say KZ2, you are clearly mistaken.

In order for KZ2 to sell well, it needs a fanbase. And you KNOW that since KZ1 was one of the biggest flops ever, either no one played it or people played it but sold it quickly, so i dont think many people will be too hyped for the release of KZ2.

And we all know that anything made by Bungie will sell millions in its first week, and will most likely score AAA as well.

Chutebox

Must suck for new IPs then....

Not when they are made by developers with a fanbase. No one cares about Guerrilla. All they made were huge flops so far besides a PSP game

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[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]ODST will sell better and most likely be better. Halo 3 doesn't have the 1st day sales record by the way, if I'm not mistaken it's a WoW game. Zero5000X

nah. WotLK is the fastest selling PC game ever but GTAIV is the fastest selling entertainment product ever (Halo 3 before it and Spider-Man 3 before that).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV

But thats not saying much since GTA4 was on two consoles launched worldwide and it still struggled to beat Halo 3's stats.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="krp008"]

If you say KZ2, you are clearly mistaken.

In order for KZ2 to sell well, it needs a fanbase. And you KNOW that since KZ1 was one of the biggest flops ever, either no one played it or people played it but sold it quickly, so i dont think many people will be too hyped for the release of KZ2.

And we all know that anything made by Bungie will sell millions in its first week, and will most likely score AAA as well.

krp008

Must suck for new IPs then....

Not when they are made by developers with a fanbase. No one cares about Guerrilla. All they made were huge flops so far besides a PSP game

What did LBP devs make prior?

No one cares about GG? Right, that's why there is no hype surrounding their release of KZ2...

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#34 krp008
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[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Must suck for new IPs then....

Chutebox

Not when they are made by developers with a fanbase. No one cares about Guerrilla. All they made were huge flops so far besides a PSP game

What did LBP devs make prior?

Last time i checked LBP sold around 300k in its first month. Then sales started to pick up after people played it at friend's houses/rented. Im just saying that KZ2 wont sell 2.5 million copies in its first day. People are most likely in the "wait and see" category regarding this game

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[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]ODST will sell better and most likely be better. Halo 3 doesn't have the 1st day sales record by the way, if I'm not mistaken it's a WoW game. Zero5000X

nah. WotLK is the fastest selling PC game ever but GTAIV is the fastest selling entertainment product ever (Halo 3 before it and Spider-Man 3 before that).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV

GTA4 is a multiplatform game and no it didn't
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="krp008"]

Not when they are made by developers with a fanbase. No one cares about Guerrilla. All they made were huge flops so far besides a PSP game

krp008

What did LBP devs make prior?

Last time i checked LBP sold around 300k in its first month. Then sales started to pick up after people played it at friend's houses/rented. Im just saying that KZ2 wont sell 2.5 million copies in its first day. People are most likely in the "wait and see" category regarding this game

Oh, there is no way KZ2 sells that much day one or week one.
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#37 TheAnnihilation
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KZ2 will score well, well 9.0 at least, probably the same as ODST. KZ2 will be out longer so it will sell more, ODST comes out fall 09.EuropeGangsta

It's not a big deal, really. If Killzone 2 is flourishing, it may sell three or four million copies in 2009, but for the reason that Halo 3 showed people that games are capable of selling nearly four million in the first few days, its expansion may smoothly exceed Killzone 2 in sales, regardless of the release dates.

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#38 II_Seraphim_II
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Halo will sell more based on the name, but I think KZ2 will score better.
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#39 nervmeister
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Halo ODST could get a 5 and it would still probably sell more. Name recognition can work wonders, y'know. I'm not saying there's no chance of KZ2 selling more, but few new IPs become a sales phenomenon, even if they're AAA material.
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#40 sasapac
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killzone 2 will score better (graphics, online 64 players, gameplay and they making it 3 years) but odst will probably sell better because of the name
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#42 II_Seraphim_II
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killzone 2 will score better (graphics, online 64 players, gameplay and they making it 3 years) but odst will probably sell better because of the namesasapac
I thought it was 34 (or was it 36?) players online?
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[QUOTE="sasapac"]killzone 2 will score better (graphics, online 64 players, gameplay and they making it 3 years) but odst will probably sell better because of the nameII_Seraphim_II
I thought it was 34 (or was it 36?) players online?

32, the 64 number came from the GT preview and I think he was refering to number of clan members
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Halo will probably sell better and be better, but you have to understand, it's essentially an expansion to halo 3 and includes a new (very different) campaign, new skulls, new multiplayer maps, and all that good stuff. It's selling for $30ish. So it depends how they want to score it.

Killzone 2 is its own game, has the best graphics available, but haven't we learned that no matter how good a game looks before release, it's just not going to be as good as halo? This is exactly what we concluded with Killzone 1. Should be a great game though.

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F.E.A.R 2 has FPSOTY written all over it.

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Halo Odst should sell more due to the fanbase and lower price tag.
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#47 Cedmln
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Not a single person said K2 will even sell well.
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#48 Giancar
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Halo will probably sell better and be better, but you have to understand, it's essentially an expansion to halo 3 and includes a new (very different) campaign, new skulls, new multiplayer maps, and all that good stuff. It's selling for $30ish. So it depends how they want to score it.

Killzone 2 is its own game, has the best graphics available, but haven't we learned that no matter how good a game looks before release, it's just not going to be as good as halo? This is exactly what we concluded with Killzone 1. Should be a great game though.

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man there are way better FPS in the market right now better than halo... But I'll just wait to have KZ2 in my hands to have an opinion about the game
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#49 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="sasapac"]killzone 2 will score better (graphics, online 64 players, gameplay and they making it 3 years) but odst will probably sell better because of the nameGiancar
I thought it was 34 (or was it 36?) players online?

32, the 64 number came from the GT preview and I think he was refering to number of clan members

ah ok, thanx for clearing that up :D
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#50 II-FBIsniper-II
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Half Life 2: Episode 3 will do both. Edit: Whoops, I misunderstood the question. I think Halo 3: ODST will do better.