Which game has the more realistic sneaking aspects? MGS4 or Splinter Cell?

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#1 nervmeister
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Splinter Cell - has a noise meter that fills up depending on how quickly or slowly you move and what posture you're in (radical actions like jumping also affect it). The meter also takes into account background noise that can produce more favorable conditions for sneaking depending on how much it increases. The game also has a light meter that indicates how shrouded or exposed you are in light or dark places.

MGS4 - Has a camo index that indicates how well you blend with your surroundings based on what you wear or camo you adopt and based on how light or shaded the area you're in is. It also fluctuates based on the speed of your movement and how low you are to the ground. Also, the proximity of your enemies is taken into account.

Having played MGS4 and Chaos Theory, I can safely say that these two different series of stealth parameters make for good rivals. So what do you think?

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Realisticly? Old School Splinter Cell (Not that Double Agent crap)

Metal Gear Soild is too unrealistic which is why I like Splinter Cell.

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Realisticly? Old School Splinter Cell (Not that Double Agent crap)

Metal Gear Soild is too unrealistic which is why I like Splinter Cell.

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I liked Double Agent.

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#4 organic_machine
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In terms of AI? MGS4.

In terms of game design? Splinter Cell by a mile.

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#5 DireOwl
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Solid Snake hid in a box...
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#6 nervmeister
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Solid Snake hid in a box... DireOwl
Screw the box. It all about iron drums now.
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#7 _-MURS-_
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Snake hides in a box he pulls out of nowhere...and has a suit that magically transforms to match the ground....

Is this even a real question?

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#8 DonPerian
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Definately Splinter Cell. That franchise's sole purpose is to sneak (excluding the new direction they took with Double Agent and what we'll possibly see with Conviction) while MGS has the element in there, but you can also go guns blazing. If you attempt to get past a certain point in Splinter Cell by force, more likely than not you'll fail, whereas in MGS4, I pretty much beat the whole game with force (except for the beginning of Act III I believe, when you're in Eastern Europe).

Plus, having a huge Metal Gear showdown and blowing the holy hell out of Shadow Moses isn't necessarily being "sneaky".

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#9 kage_53
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Thief. I would hardly classify either game as a true stealth game.
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#10 Toriko42
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Anyone who says MGS is a fanboy
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#11 nervmeister
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Keep in mind, my question doesn't necessarily refer to what abilities the main characters have. It's how convincing the ways each main character sneaks past or conceals themselves from the enemy are.
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#12 club-sandwich
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I'll go with SC with this one, that's the aspect I like from SC over MGS, other than that, MGS is superior.
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#13 LibertySaint
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both are pretty bad but i'd say splinter cell because of the whole shadows thing and noise while in mg u can make alot of noise and then hide in a card board box. mgs is more of a stealth comic book game with funny gameplay.
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#14 nervmeister
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both are pretty bad but i'd say splinter cell because of the whole shadows thing and noise while in mg u can make alot of noise and then hide in a card board box. mgs is more of a stealth comic book game with funny gameplay.LibertySaint
The box never helped me. They ALWAYS checked under it.
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#15 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Splinter Cell- realistic and fun

MGS- Gimmick and Stupid.

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#16 user_nat
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MGS4 is to stealth as Gran Turismo (thats the first one) is to being a driving simulator.

Also:

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#17 nervmeister
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Splinter Cell- realistic and fun

MGS- Gimmick and Stupid.

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That seems objective enough so I absolutely believe you! (pfft)
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#18 LibertySaint
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MGS4 is to stealth as Gran Turismo (thats the first one) is to being a driving simulator.

Also:

user_nat
lol true for mgs and splinter cell so true
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#19 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Splinter Cell- realistic and fun

MGS- Gimmick and Stupid.

nervmeister
That seems objective enough so I absolutely believe you! (pfft)

well seeing as hiding in garbage cans and lokcers is some of the most ridiculous "stealth" elements I have ever seen in a game I come to belive that MGS isnt a real stealth game but a gimmick.
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#20 too_much_eslim
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both fail, but SC is better.
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#21 Kez1984
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Splinter Cell. Although the chewing gum advert's in the third one put me off the game for good. Every cut-scene had an ad in it, very shamefull.
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#22 naruto7777
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SC
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#23 WAIW
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MGS4 is to stealth as Gran Turismo (thats the first one) is to being a driving simulator.

Also:

user_nat

:lol:

In terms of realism, ofc Splinter Cell.

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#24 TheKonspiracy
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SC is a more realistic stealth game, but IMO MGS4 is more fun.
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#25 MadExponent
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MGS is not stealth. You can be 50 feet from someone in broad daylight and they will not see you. In Splinter Cell it feels like you are playing on the hardest difficulty on MGS. You either cannot be seen or can only be seen a couple times. The moves Sam does, at least seem like what a NSA spy would do. Who knows what a NSA spy does, because the NSA does not officially have spies.

Stealth = SC

Story = MGS (which is why it is considered a better game)

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#26 gasmaskman
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Snake hides in a box he pulls out of nowhere...and has a suit that magically transforms to match the ground....

Is this even a real question?

_-MURS-_

The box is for humor... obviously. And it's in the future, with a focus on futuristic things (nanomachines, AI, etc.) so the "sneaking suit" has a place in the game.

For sneaking, Splinter Cell is easily the better game. For actually playing, it's MGS for its humor and gadgets.

well seeing as hiding in garbage cans and lokcers is some of the most ridiculous "stealth" elements I have ever seen in a game I come to belive that MGS isnt a real stealth game but a gimmick.

Do you like comedy movies?

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#27 AntiType
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Both are pretty ridiculous.

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#28 gasmaskman
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Both are pretty ridiculous.

AntiType

How is Splinter Cell ridiculous?

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#29 terdoo
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Splinter Cell is alor more realistic.But I love both series.
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#30 FreddyVorhees
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Splinter Cell. Obviously.
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#31 AntiType
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[QUOTE="AntiType"]

Both are pretty ridiculous.

gasmaskman

How is Splinter Cell ridiculous?

you think Splinter Cell is realistic?

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#32 FreddyVorhees
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[QUOTE="AntiType"]

Both are pretty ridiculous.

gasmaskman

How is Splinter Cell ridiculous?

It's not.

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#33 cowgriller
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they both suck!!!

SNEAK KING FTW!!!

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#34 insanejedi
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Hitman.
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#35 FreddyVorhees
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[QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

Both are pretty ridiculous.

AntiType

How is Splinter Cell ridiculous?

you think Splinter Cell is realistic?

I'm a real life super cool ninja spy, and it's pretty similar to my life.

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#36 nervmeister
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both fail, but SC is better.too_much_eslim
Not a fan of sneaking around, are you?
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#37 ProductNumber49
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Hiding in barrels and sneaking in a warzone full of robotic dragons isnt what I call realistic

Splinter cell chaos theory is my favorite stealth game

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#38 nervmeister
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Hiding in barrels and sneaking in a warzone full of robotic dragons isnt what I call realistic

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Robotic dragons?
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Definately Splinter Cell. That franchise's sole purpose is to sneak (excluding the new direction they took with Double Agent and what we'll possibly see with Conviction) while MGS has the element in there, but you can also go guns blazing. If you attempt to get past a certain point in Splinter Cell by force, more likely than not you'll fail, whereas in MGS4, I pretty much beat the whole game with force (except for the beginning of Act III I believe, when you're in Eastern Europe).

Plus, having a huge Metal Gear showdown and blowing the holy hell out of Shadow Moses isn't necessarily being "sneaky".

DonPerian

They're completely redoing Conviction I think...I'm praying they'll go back to the Chaos Theory style of gameplay.

I think Splinter Cell has better sneaking aspects.

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#40 Swift_Boss_A
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SC is realistic but Snakes moves are not fantasy based and it does provide a great sneaking experience plus the AI reacts really well to you as they can hear you, find your scent, see your footprints etc.

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SC. I prefer it over MGS.
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#42 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Pvt_KIDO"]

Realisticly? Old School Splinter Cell (Not that Double Agent crap)

Metal Gear Soild is too unrealistic which is why I like Splinter Cell.

blitzkid1

I liked Double Agent.

Me2.

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#43 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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In terms of AI? MGS4.

In terms of game design? Splinter Cell by a mile.

organic_machine

Yeah. Good point. After playing the first MGS for the GC (Yup, the first one, The Twin Snakes) SC looked almost unplayble. What a stupid AI. After a while I got used to it again, and enjoyed the game as always. But that AI...

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#44 stereointegrity
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mgs4 had some pretty nice sneaking...ppl actually saw u and heard u from a far ways away
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#45 Dahaka-UK
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Hiding in dim shadows with 3 huge green lights on your head and not being able to be seen aint too realistic if you ask me.

Look at this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkDImUOaN5U This isnt realistic, it's just plain dumb. MGS is alot more realistic when it comes to stealth. Maybe not in story but stealth oh yes.

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#46 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Splinter Cell is by far more realistic.

MGS4(the whole series actually) is a lot lot funner though.

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#47 Sh3rpa
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some of the mgs4 comments prove that those making them either didn't play the game at all, played it on easy, or thought a joke was a major part of game play.

Never used the barrel or box.

AI didn't need a noise bar, they just reacted. Same with the dead bodies, footprints etc..

This may seem like over-justification, but Snake is #$!%$%# Snake! Dude can do things you can't lol. try suspending reality a little. You don't have to believe in a purple sky or anything, just try and actually think about who the guy is.

In the end, sneaking in mgs4 on hard was very satisfying. Splinter cell, for me, does not match up.

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#48 Vectah_Sigma
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Anyone who says MGS is a fanboyToriko42

LOL.......Why is that?

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Thief > SC > MGS.
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#50 AtrumRegina
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[QUOTE="Pvt_KIDO"]

Realisticly? Old School Splinter Cell (Not that Double Agent crap)

Metal Gear Soild is too unrealistic which is why I like Splinter Cell.

blitzkid1

I liked Double Agent.

I'm playing it now but SC3 was more realistic.