Which game do you think has the most stereotypical story/characters this gen.?
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Any shooter with Russians or Terrorists or Intergalactic Fascists as enemies.
Runner-up is Heavy Rain with its "I don't care if there's no evidence, I just wanna get some guy jailed so we can claim this as a success" cops.
[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]
Gears of War or Uncharted.
1Stark1
I can understand Gears, but Uncharted? please explain. TC said MOST sterotypical characters/story this WHOLE gen. You could've went after COD, Halo, Dead Space, Saints Row, etc, but you decided to point out Uncharted:?
Average joe going after treasure? Hardly the most original idea.[QUOTE="1Stark1"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]
Gears of War or Uncharted.
Anjunaddict
I can understand Gears, but Uncharted? please explain. TC said MOST sterotypical characters/story this WHOLE gen. You could've went after COD, Halo, Dead Space, Saints Row, etc, but you decided to point out Uncharted:?
Average joe going after treasure? Hardly the most original idea. Thats a very broad description of a game. and drake is no ave joe.[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="1Stark1"]Average joe going after treasure? Hardly the most original idea. Thats a very broad description of a game. and drake is no ave joe.I can understand Gears, but Uncharted? please explain. TC said MOST sterotypical characters/story this WHOLE gen. You could've went after COD, Halo, Dead Space, Saints Row, etc, but you decided to point out Uncharted:?
Respawn-d
why is everybody catching a fit about uncharted?
thats the guys opinion Drake is a very stereotypical character but IMO theres more stereotypical others.
Thats a very broad description of a game. and drake is no ave joe.[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Average joe going after treasure? Hardly the most original idea.Mario1331
why is everybody catching a fit about uncharted?
thats the guys opinion Drake is a very stereotypical character but IMO theres more stereotypical others.
Its just trolls getting a kick out of people. Everyone knows Uncharted has character chemistry which is severely lacking in 90% of games this generation. Which is sad because zero developers seem to grasp this[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Heavy Rain. The only two black people in the game were either a criminal or a gravedigger. Respawn-dWell Im not saying stereotypes are right. But theres no reason to get offended over that. I'm not offended lol It's just something that i noticed.
probably gears killzone and everyone in halo outside of master cheif cortana and the covenant, so basically the marine troops :P
I agree with you on KZ2. But not MC? You have to be joking because that's bull. MC doesnt talk and he is your typical protagonist that has to save our galaxy from the brink of destruction against an alien race. (yup doesnt sound generic at all lol)probably gears killzone and everyone in halo outside of master cheif cortana and the covenant, so basically the marine troops :P
dragonfly110
Oh and like I said. He doesnt talk. Which adds zero character development
[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]I agree with you on KZ2. But not MC? You have to be joking because that's bull. MC doesnt talk and he is your typical protagonist that has to save our galaxy from the brink of destruction against an alien race. (yup doesnt sound generic at all lol)probably gears killzone and everyone in halo outside of master cheif cortana and the covenant, so basically the marine troops :P
suitmypants
uhm, yes. he does. and the concept of the game is generic, but master cheif as a character might sem generic now but when halo was first made 11 years ago he really wasnt all that generic at all tbh with you.
I agree with you on KZ2. But not MC? You have to be joking because that's bull. MC doesnt talk and he is your typical protagonist that has to save our galaxy from the brink of destruction against an alien race. (yup doesnt sound generic at all lol)[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
probably gears killzone and everyone in halo outside of master cheif cortana and the covenant, so basically the marine troops :P
suitmypants
Oh and like I said. He doesnt talk. Which adds zero character development
He does talk, you're thinking of Gordon Freeman. You just never see his face, because you're meant to project yourself onto him, or at least to imagine him the way you want to be. Halo came out 11 years ago when there weren't so many wannabe games with an awesome super soldier protagonist. MC is an infinitely cool character.I agree with you on KZ2. But not MC? You have to be joking because that's bull. MC doesnt talk and he is your typical protagonist that has to save our galaxy from the brink of destruction against an alien race. (yup doesnt sound generic at all lol)[QUOTE="suitmypants"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
probably gears killzone and everyone in halo outside of master cheif cortana and the covenant, so basically the marine troops :P
dragonfly110
uhm, yes. he does. and the concept of the game is generic, but master cheif as a character might sem generic now but when halo was first made 11 years ago he really wasnt all that generic at all tbh with you.
11 years ago over 500 action movies were made that could fit MC description and Halo's plot. Yeah buddy, he's been generic since Theseus, except Theseus is more bad ass and would make way of a better protagonist than MC in the Halo Universe.[QUOTE="dragonfly110"][QUOTE="suitmypants"] I agree with you on KZ2. But not MC? You have to be joking because that's bull. MC doesnt talk and he is your typical protagonist that has to save our galaxy from the brink of destruction against an alien race. (yup doesnt sound generic at all lol)suitmypants
uhm, yes. he does. and the concept of the game is generic, but master cheif as a character might sem generic now but when halo was first made 11 years ago he really wasnt all that generic at all tbh with you.
11 years ago over 500 action movies were made that could fit MC description and Halo's plot. Yeah buddy, he's been generic since Theseus, except Theseus is more bad ass and would make way of a better protagonist than MC in the Halo Universe.show me these action movies, id love to watch them :|
11 years ago over 500 action movies were made that could fit MC description and Halo's plot. Yeah buddy, he's been generic since Theseus, except Theseus is more bad ass and would make way of a better protagonist than MC in the Halo Universe.[QUOTE="suitmypants"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
uhm, yes. he does. and the concept of the game is generic, but master cheif as a character might sem generic now but when halo was first made 11 years ago he really wasnt all that generic at all tbh with you.
dragonfly110
show me these action movies, id love to watch them :|
To be honest, every single action game or film copies heavily from Aliens.
[QUOTE="suitmypants"]I agree with you on KZ2. But not MC? You have to be joking because that's bull. MC doesnt talk and he is your typical protagonist that has to save our galaxy from the brink of destruction against an alien race. (yup doesnt sound generic at all lol)[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
probably gears killzone and everyone in halo outside of master cheif cortana and the covenant, so basically the marine troops :P
Ninja-Hippo
Oh and like I said. He doesnt talk. Which adds zero character development
He does talk, you're thinking of Gordon Freeman. You just never see his face, because you're meant to project yourself onto him, or at least to imagine him the way you want to be. Halo came out 11 years ago when there weren't so many wannabe games with an awesome super soldier protagonist. MC is an infinitely cool character. other than the mumbo jumbo about "what's our ETA?" "When are we landing" "How many aliens are there" bull **** than yeah, he doesn't talk. He has zero character development[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
[QUOTE="Respawn-d"] Thats a very broad description of a game. and drake is no ave joe. suitmypants
why is everybody catching a fit about uncharted?
thats the guys opinion Drake is a very stereotypical character but IMO theres more stereotypical others.
Its just trolls getting a kick out of people. Everyone knows Uncharted has character chemistry which is severely lacking in 90% of games this generation. Which is sad because zero developers seem to grasp this Stereotypical character chemistry.11 years ago over 500 action movies were made that could fit MC description and Halo's plot. Yeah buddy, he's been generic since Theseus, except Theseus is more bad ass and would make way of a better protagonist than MC in the Halo Universe.[QUOTE="suitmypants"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
uhm, yes. he does. and the concept of the game is generic, but master cheif as a character might sem generic now but when halo was first made 11 years ago he really wasnt all that generic at all tbh with you.
dragonfly110
show me these action movies, id love to watch them :|
Sure bro, here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_films
or here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_action_films
Let me know if you find any hidden gems
[QUOTE="suitmypants"]Its just trolls getting a kick out of people. Everyone knows Uncharted has character chemistry which is severely lacking in 90% of games this generation. Which is sad because zero developers seem to grasp this Stereotypical character chemistry. I would disagree. I cant name any game that has a treasure hunter that has a old man as his side kick and on top of that, have a 2 ex girlfriends in the picture. (im even missing some major characters/plots sequences) yeah... none. Can you?[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
why is everybody catching a fit about uncharted?
thats the guys opinion Drake is a very stereotypical character but IMO theres more stereotypical others.
AAllxxjjnn
And even to further your point. If uncharted has stereotypical character chemistry, why is it considered such a great game? Oh yeah, developers tend to take the time to make an actual story with characters before they make their games with marine soldiers saving humanity --yet again--- from the brink of destruction.
Stereotypical character chemistry.AAllxxjjnn
I'm starting to wonder whether the people defending Uncharted have seen Indiana Jones, which makes me fear for the future (everyone should see Indiana Jones). UC2 is a great 'popcorn' game (for lack of a better term), but it's a hat and a whip away from a copyright suit.
He does have character development as he clearly starts to care greatly for Cortana over the course of the trilogy. :? You're throwing too many movies and games into the same hat. Sure i imagine there've been a fair few alien type sci-fi films but i can't think of any the same as Halo or even close to be honest...other than the mumbo jumbo about "what's our ETA?" "When are we landing" "How many aliens are there" bull **** than yeah, he doesn't talk. He has zero character development
suitmypants
[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
[QUOTE="suitmypants"] 11 years ago over 500 action movies were made that could fit MC description and Halo's plot. Yeah buddy, he's been generic since Theseus, except Theseus is more bad ass and would make way of a better protagonist than MC in the Halo Universe.suitmypants
show me these action movies, id love to watch them :|
Sure bro, here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_films
or here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_action_films
Let me know if you find any hidden gems
Taking the easy way out there. ;) I mean Gremlins? Really? Back to the Future? Why not actually pick out the movies from the list which Halo is apparently such a generic example of, like he asked?Stereotypical character chemistry. I would disagree. I cant name any game that has a treasure hunter that has a old man as his side kick and on top of that, have a 2 ex girlfriends in the picture. (im even missing some major characters/plots sequences) yeah... none. Can you?[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="suitmypants"] Its just trolls getting a kick out of people. Everyone knows Uncharted has character chemistry which is severely lacking in 90% of games this generation. Which is sad because zero developers seem to grasp this
suitmypants
And even to further your point. If uncharted has stereotypical character chemistry, why is it considered such a great game? Oh yeah, developers tend to take the time to make an actual story with characters before they make their games with marine soldiers saving humanity --yet again--- from the brink of destruction.
In games? No. In general? Yes. Indiana Jones, Romancing the Stone, etc.
Because you don't need original characters to be able to be considered a great game.
GTA4
The muscle-headed idiot. The Jamaican that smokes weed. And the guy that does bad things to protect his family.
And the whole "coming to America" thing isn't original either.
Stereotypical character chemistry. I would disagree. I cant name any game that has a treasure hunter that has a old man as his side kick and on top of that, have a 2 ex girlfriends in the picture. (im even missing some major characters/plots sequences) yeah... none. Can you?[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="suitmypants"] Its just trolls getting a kick out of people. Everyone knows Uncharted has character chemistry which is severely lacking in 90% of games this generation. Which is sad because zero developers seem to grasp this
suitmypants
And even to further your point. If uncharted has stereotypical character chemistry, why is it considered such a great game? Oh yeah, developers tend to take the time to make an actual story with characters before they make their games with marine soldiers saving humanity --yet again--- from the brink of destruction.
Responding to the bolded section: Any plot can be made to sound one-of-a-kind if you focus on certain features and not the bigger picture,
As for your other points, even some games with paper thin stories are considered great games, so your point about it being considered such a great game is not all that valid.
You say that "they made a game with actual characters instead of a game with marine soldiers save humanity yet again," yet you seem to ignore that Uncharted 2 has a pretty generic "race a fairly generic bad guy to a magical device that will help bad guy conquer the world" plot arc.
GTA4
The muscle-headed idiot. The Jamaican that smokes weed. And the guy that does bad things to protect his family.
And the whole "coming to America" thing isn't original either.
Shadow4020
In movies and literature, I'd agree. It's pretty damn original in a game though. Most games storylines involve saving the world from a stock bad guy with no shades of grey whatsoever. The American Dream plot arc and all the themes that come with it makes for something quite different from the video game norm.
If GTA IV was a movie or novel instead of a game, it would lose pretty much all of its originality. However, its novel/artsy crime film sort of material sets is apart from the majority of games plot-wise. The plot has more of a sense of "focusing on a character's life in general" than many games that focus more on an event.
Also, I'll agree that the first two are stereotypes. But the whole "the guy that does bad things to protect his family" does a harsh disservice to Niko.
shooters where the russians/naz's are the enemy. why can't it be the opposite? or why not like asian enemies? theres a lot of talk of noth korea these days, so it would be fun to see the enemy(I can think of crysis and warhead that has korean enemies but thats it). And the fact I was mad that china wasn't playable in EndWar but russia,Europe, and the US are. l
Im surprised noone has said Punch-Out!! :P
And Master Chief was genre defining, to a certain extent. The impact Halo has had causes him to be seen as generic now, but his character was an early pioneer, at least for games.
Besides, TC is asking for the most stereotypical, not the most generic. MC is hardly that.
For reference;
"A stereotype is a commonly held public belief about specific social groups or types of individuals... Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of groups based on some prior assumptions."
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