Which has better graphics 3DS or Playstation 2?

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#51 ronvalencia
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Lets compare Ridge Racer 3DS to Ridge Racer 5:


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AMD APU C-50 ACER netbook playing Need For Speed Underground 2 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tcwqnm_nzc&feature=related

AMD APU E-350 Sony netbook playing Dirt 2 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jFEBawLJZ0&feature=related

AMD APU C-50 ACER netbook playing Devil May Cry 4 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBAaZY1tefg&feature=related

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#52 Solid_Sterb
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Definitely the 3DS.

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#53 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="killeracer0210"]

Lets compare Ridge Racer 3DS to Ridge Racer 5:


ronvalencia

AMD APU C-50 ACER netbook playing GRID PC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yEckrjQmj4&feature=related

AMD APU C-50 ACER netbook playing Need For Speed Underground 2 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tcwqnm_nzc&feature=related

AMD APU E-350 Sony netbook playing Dirt 2 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jFEBawLJZ0&feature=related

and? why did you post these videos? lol

why do people talk about and post stuff that has nothing to do with what TC asked?

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#54 ronvalencia
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and? why did you post these videos? lol

why do people talk about and post stuff that has nothing to do with what TC asked?

CDUB316

This issue was covered before. As with any "Xbox 360 vs PS3" topics, PC is part of the System Wars.

Refer to http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25696624/do-you-consider-pcs-and-pc-gamers-part-of-the-system-wars

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#55 tubbyc
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[QUOTE="killeracer0210"]

Lets compare Ridge Racer 3DS to Ridge Racer 5:


ronvalencia

AMD APU C-50 ACER netbook playing GRID PC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yEckrjQmj4&feature=related

AMD APU C-50 ACER netbook playing Need For Speed Underground 2 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tcwqnm_nzc&feature=related

AMD APU E-350 Sony netbook playing Dirt 2 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jFEBawLJZ0&feature=related

AMD APU C-50 ACER netbook playing Devil May Cry 4 PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBAaZY1tefg&feature=related

But I would imagine many games would need the netbook to be on a table with a mouse, or you could use a controller which is then an extra thing to have to carry around, just like the mouse. The 3DS is cheaper (not by a lot as you pointed out, but still cheaper), has a higher level of portability, and auto-stereoscopic 3D. All in all, I would say both platforms even out, depending on what people want. They both have their pros and cons.

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#56 tubbyc
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From what we've seen, the 3DS will clearly have better graphics than the PS2.

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#57 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]What the hell are you talking about? You think this doesn't count as an advance in technology because it's comparable to the GCN? It's a HANDHELD. That isn't how this works. If it looked like the DS, there would be no advancement. Not to mention, don't act like Nintendo always kept a low down on technology, the SNES and N64 were the most powerful consoles of their respective generations, and the GCN was second in it's.

iPhone > 3ds in 3d performance... :D beaten by a secondary function of a device vs a primary! (and it's older) they are keeping on the low end of hardware, mostly for profits methinks.

3DS > Ps2.

The iPhone also makes the 3DS's battery life look epic.
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#58 ThePlothole
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>

A netbook is light enough that it can be operated while being held on one hand i.e. not a laptop.

*image*

HP MiniNote netbook

Also, it's the same hardware for the incoming AMD APU tablet/netbook PCs.

PS; laptop is designed to be operated on a lap. Modern laptops needs cooling divider between person's lap and the laptop PC.

*image*

ronvalencia
Oh come on, there is no way you can actually play any decent game while balancing a Netbook in your palm. Weight is hardly the sole factor for a "handheld" (although even there the Netbook is pushing it). And you need a divider (lap table) because modern laptops are in fact NOT designed to be used in your lap! For this reason some manufacturers have even tried to get away from the term "laptop" in favor of "notebook".
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#59 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]>

A netbook is light enough that it can be operated while being held on one hand i.e. not a laptop.

*image*

HP MiniNote netbook

Also, it's the same hardware for the incoming AMD APU tablet/netbook PCs.

PS; laptop is designed to be operated on a lap. Modern laptops needs cooling divider between person's lap and the laptop PC.

*image*

ThePlothole

Oh come on, there is no way you can actually play any decent game while balancing a Netbook in your palm. Weight is hardly the sole factor for a "handheld" (although even there the Netbook is pushing it). And you need a divider (lap table) because modern laptops are in fact NOT designed to be used in your lap! For this reason some manufacturers have even tried to get away from the term "laptop" in favor of "notebook".

Since I don't have AMD APU C-50 based netbook atm, I use StreamMyGame.com service (private/DIY Onlive.com type service) i.e. I can stream my games from my main PC game server to my netbook PC devices. But this is not the point.

I played "Need For Speed Hot Pursuit" PC on a netbook with two hands i.e I hold the netbook like a handheld console e.g use the two near edge key button sets. My two thumbs has access to QWASDE123 and cursor keys.

The hold is similar to below

My netbbook's keyboard is better positioned than Sony's netbook. Just treat the notbook like ~86 button handheld console.

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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]What the hell are you talking about? You think this doesn't count as an advance in technology because it's comparable to the GCN? It's a HANDHELD. That isn't how this works. If it looked like the DS, there would be no advancement. Not to mention, don't act like Nintendo always kept a low down on technology, the SNES and N64 were the most powerful consoles of their respective generations, and the GCN was second in it's.

iPhone > 3ds in 3d performance... :D beaten by a secondary function of a device vs a primary! (and it's older) they are keeping on the low end of hardware, mostly for profits methinks.

3DS > Ps2.

1) how much does iPhone cost? 2) how good are the controls?
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#61 ThePlothole
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Since I don't have AMD APU C-50 based netbook atm, I use StreamMyGame.com service (private/DIY Onlive.com type service) i.e. I can stream my games from my main PC game server to my netbook PC devices. But this is not the point.

I played "Need For Speed Hot Pursuit" PC on a netbook with two hands i.e I hold the netbook like a handheld console e.g use the two near edge key button sets. My two thumbs has access to QWASDE123 and cursor keys.

The hold is similar to below

My netbbook's keyboard is better positioned than Sony's netbook. Just treat the notbook like ~86 button handheld console.

ronvalencia
You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.
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#62 ronvalencia
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You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.

ThePlothole

It's not a try for me i.e. I actually do it.Mainstream netbooks are designed for adults.

Other netbook examples

ASUS EeePC 9 inch and one hand operation example.

My Asus EeePC netbookis 10inch TabletPC. One hand operation is in daily use.

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#63 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.

ronvalencia

It's not a try for me i.e.I actually do it.

Well I get tired after holding my iPad up for awhile, and it's lighter than most Netbooks (and better balanced).
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#64 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.

ThePlothole

It's not a try for me i.e.I actually do it.

Well I get tired after holding my iPad up for awhile, and it's lighter than most Netbooks (and better balanced).

"You are using it wrong". ;)

Anyway, Apple iPad(iOS platform) is clearly a handheld device.

From mainstream press,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_electronics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-held_computer

Handheld computers used at work have molded over time into a variety of form factors, including smartphones on the low end, handheld PDAs, Ultra-Mobile PCs and Tablet PCs. Laptops do not come under handheld computers as they are not small enough to hold in one's hand

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Wait why is someone posting pictures of Netbooks? :?

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#66 demonic_85
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lol seriously? The PS2 still has better graphics.... unless the early 3DS games dont show its full potential. So far the 3DS is on the same level (roughly) as the PSP and PS2. So sad that Nintendo cant keep up.

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#67 ThePlothole
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Touch hand is adding acculmative pressure on the other hand (the hand that supports the device).

ronvalencia
Generally when I'm holding the iPad up, both hands will be supporting it.

"You are using it wrong". ;)

Anyway, Apple iPad(iOS platform) is clearly a handheld device.

From mainstream press,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_electronics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-held_computer

Handheld computers used at work have molded over time into a variety of form factors, including smartphones on the low end, handheld PDAs, Ultra-Mobile PCs and Tablet PCs. Laptops do not come under handheld computers as they are not small enough to hold in one's hand

ronvalencia

Netbooks are not ultra-mobiles. Rather the term refers to even smaller devices... Generally with around a 5" display. Here is one example of an UMPC:

The iPad may be considered a handheld, since it is specifically designed to be held in ones hands. Netbooks aren't!

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#69 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Touch hand is adding acculmative pressure on the other hand (the hand that supports the device).

ThePlothole

Generally when I'm holding the iPad up, both hands will be supporting it.

"You are using it wrong". ;)

Anyway, Apple iPad(iOS platform) is clearly a handheld device.

From mainstream press,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_electronics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-held_computer

Handheld computers used at work have molded over time into a variety of form factors, including smartphones on the low end, handheld PDAs, Ultra-Mobile PCs and Tablet PCs. Laptops do not come under handheld computers as they are not small enough to hold in one's hand

ronvalencia

Netbooks are not ultra-mobiles. Rather the term refers to even smaller devices... Generally with around a 5" display.

The iPad may be considered a handheld, since it is specifically designed to be held in ones hands. Netbooks aren't!

Umpcportal.com thinks otherwise i.e. http://www.umpcportal.com/2011/02/asus-1015b-netbook-with-amd-fusion-video-images/

Welcome to UMPCPortal, the site for news and information about ultra mobile PCs including netbooks, MIDs, UMPCs and all other devices with screen sizes of between 4" and 10" in both the consumer and professional markets

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#70 dkdk999
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Here's the Best Comparison I can find.

Resident Evil 4 PS2 vs Resident Evil Revelations 3DS

Dead or Alive 2 Hardcore (PS2) vs Dead or Alive Dimensions (3DS)

Street Fighter EX3 PS2 vs Super Street Fighter IV

Metal Gear Solid 3 (PS2) vs Metal Gear Solid 3 (3DS)

Yeah I guess it's a safe bet that the 3DS is more Powerful than the PS2.

EDITED

LegatoSkyheart

I've always been confused when people say ps2 has good grpahics. good lord those were awful.

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#71 mariokart64fan
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wth maybe you should ask this about gamecube cause you know what,

3ds fact will have way better graphics then ps2 ever will do

since when did ps2 have the ability to do 3d

not

infact gamecube would be the only systemn that could have done 3d last gen , had nintendo released the canceld add-on

maybe the xbox but it wasnt known gc was the only known one because nintendo came out andsaid it ,

the wii has better graphics then gc slightly so 3ds is definetally better then ps2

to the one saying their tired of nintendo not making any graphical enhancments -what 3d isnt a graphical enhancment ha you fail plus

nintendo had the most powerful console for its first 4 gens it wasnt until wii that they had less powerful console handhelds ya thats a different story cause handhelds more power -back then meant more batteries needed and no one likes that -see game gear among others

the psp even surcombed to the weaker ds which proves one thing , graphics dont win wars

heck your a fan of that apperently cause you probably bought a ps1 and ps2 knowing they were the least powerful consoles in their gen

which brought nintendo to switch positions with sony to begin with and make what we know of as a gc 1.5 heck even sony them selfs applauded nintendo and say they should have done the same thing and made a ps2.5

you see if they did nintenod and sony would have tooken ms down ,instead of nintendo nad ms dual people buy lol

just look at it this way wii is this gens ps2 xbox 360 is this gens 2ndary console -known fact

that xbox and ps2 sold more then gc and the floped dreamcast wsnt even a threat so ya

better do some resarch before saying nintendo never made any graphical jumps

cause i sure did not see sony make a jump til this gen even then the 360 is still mroe capable then ps3 regardless of 3d features of ps3

remember stunt race in 94 -on the snes was the first ever polygon 3d game starfox as well though different graphic style

stunt race can be compared to mariokart 64 litterally

so saying nintendo has not made any improvments in the last 10 yrs is a lie!

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Umpcportal.com thinks otherwise i.e. http://www.umpcportal.com/2011/02/asus-1015b-netbook-with-amd-fusion-video-images/

Welcome to UMPCPortal, the site for news and information about ultra mobile PCs including netbooks, MIDs, UMPCs and all other devices with screen sizes of between 4" and 10" in both the consumer and professional markets

ronvalencia
And yet in that very description "UMPC" is considered a distinct device. UMPC = Ultra Mobile PC. A Netbook may be an "ultra mobile" PC, but it is not an "Ultra Mobile PC".
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#73 Gue1
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3DS looks clearner (probably cus of better anti-aliasing) but beside that they are about the same... All 3DS games are forced to be 3D and that takes a lot of resource even if you turn off the 3D.

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#74 ronvalencia
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Netbooks are not ultra-mobiles. Rather the term refers to even smaller devices... Generally with around a 5" display. Here is one example of an UMPC:

ThePlothole

From the same http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Mobile_PCsource

Under UMPC's year 2007, ASUS started the netbook revolution.

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From the same http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Mobile_PCsource

Under UMPC's year 2007, ASUS started the netbook revolution.

ronvalencia
What Asus produced back then was a lot closer to the concept of a UMPC. Possessing a 7" display and solid state memory. Since then netbooks have evolved into something in-between UMPCs and conventional laptops.
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#76 moistsandwich
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

and? why did you post these videos? lol

why do people talk about and post stuff that has nothing to do with what TC asked?

ronvalencia

This issue was covered before. As with any "Xbox 360 vs PS3" topics, PC is part of the System Wars.

Refer to http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25696624/do-you-consider-pcs-and-pc-gamers-part-of-the-system-wars

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and the 360 & PS3 & NGP are a part of System Wars too... but guess what, we're not talkign about those either... cuz, *GASP* this is a discussion about 3DS & PS2...

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#77 p3anut
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lol seriously? The PS2 still has better graphics.... unless the early 3DS games dont show its full potential. So far the 3DS is on the same level (roughly) as the PSP and PS2. So sad that Nintendo cant keep up.

demonic_85

lol you can't be serious, take your fanboy glasses off. 3DS is more powerful than the PS2 and these games so far are launch games. We haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg for the 3DS.

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#78 moistsandwich
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lol seriously? The PS2 still has better graphics.... unless the early 3DS games dont show its full potential. So far the 3DS is on the same level (roughly) as the PSP and PS2. So sad that Nintendo cant keep up.

demonic_85

Here you go... and you're welcome... no need to thank me...

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lol seriously? The PS2 still has better graphics.... unless the early 3DS games dont show its full potential. So far the 3DS is on the same level (roughly) as the PSP and PS2. So sad that Nintendo cant keep up.

demonic_85
Lol the pics destroy that argument.
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#80 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

From the same http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Mobile_PCsource

Under UMPC's year 2007, ASUS started the netbook revolution.

ThePlothole

What Asus produced back then was a lot closer to the concept of a UMPC. Possessing a 7" display and solid state memory. Since then netbooks have evolved into something in-between UMPCs and conventional laptops.

ASUS EeePC netbook, 9 inch = Ultra Mobile PC

Refer to http://www.best-laptop-guide.com/asus-eepc-900-review.html

"ASUS EeePC 900 Ultra-Mobile PC Review"

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http://hothardware.com/Articles/Asus_Eee_PC_900_Ultra_Mobile_PC/

Asus Eee PC 900 Ultra Mobile PC

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http://bensbargains.net/deal/149776/

Asus EEE PC 10" Ultra Mobile PC

PS; 10 inch ASUS EeePC netbook.

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http://hubpages.com/hub/Ultra-Mobile-PC-Consumer-Review-Asus-Eee-PC-900-16G

Ultra Mobile PC!!! Consumer Review: Asus Eee PC 900 16G

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http://asia.cnet.com/computex-asus-ultramobile-eee-pc-62018704.htm

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http://www.eee-900.co.uk/

Asus Eee PC 900 Netbook / Ultra Mobile Laptop

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#81 LegatoSkyheart
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A Laptop is not a Handheld, it's Portable but that doesn't making it a Handheld.

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#82 Allicrombie
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I vote SNES.
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#83 ronvalencia
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A Laptop is not a Handheld, it's Portable but that doesn't making it a Handheld.

LegatoSkyheart

I was not refering to laptops.

I was refering to netbooks

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#84 ronvalencia
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You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.ThePlothole

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28073160/and-the-3ds-control-issues-start-rolling-in....?tag=topics%3Btitle

It looks like 3DS has it's own user controlissues....

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#85 moistsandwich
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.ronvalencia

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28073160/and-the-3ds-control-issues-start-rolling-in....?tag=topics%3Btitle

It looks like 3DS has it's own user controlissues....

ignorance is bliss....yes?

do your homework

ps. YOU ARE WRONG, GET OVER IT, DEAL WITH IT, MOVE ON!

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#86 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.ronvalencia

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28073160/and-the-3ds-control-issues-start-rolling-in....?tag=topics%3Btitle

It looks like 3DS has it's own user controlissues....

Ya, just because one guy complained, right?
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#87 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.moistsandwich

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28073160/and-the-3ds-control-issues-start-rolling-in....?tag=topics%3Btitle

It looks like 3DS has it's own user controlissues....

ignorance is bliss....yes?

do your homework

ps. YOU ARE WRONG, GET OVER IT, DEAL WITH IT, MOVE ON!

3DS includes a touch screen which leads to the same issues as with any touch screen based devices.

Sorry, the market has defined netbook PCs to be type of UMPC.

"YOU ARE WRONG, GET OVER IT, DEAL WITH IT, MOVE ON" statement doesn't prove anything.

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#88 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

You mean the most awkward 86 button handheld in the world. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Trying to hold something as heavy as a Netbook in this manor would get tiring very quickly. Especially since the battery and display make it top heavy. And unless you have really long thumbs, the mouse... a critical component for many PC games... is inaccessible.LastRambo341

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28073160/and-the-3ds-control-issues-start-rolling-in....?tag=topics%3Btitle

It looks like 3DS has it's own user controlissues....

Ya, just because one guy complained, right?

3DS includes a touch screen. It's just toy netbook type device with limited button count, two slow ARM CPU(pre-ARM Cortex 8 ), updated spin Direct3D 7 type GPU and a strict DRM.

Nintendo 3DS teardown from http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nintendo-3DS-Teardown/5029/1

In terms of feature set, PICA200 GPU reminds me ofMatrox Parhelia.

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3DS has better graphics than the PS2.

I'm actually amazed, hopefully we will see some PS2 titles appearing on the 3DS like Metal Gear Solid 3~