Which is the greater GAME DEVELOPER.....BUNGIE vs NAUGHTY DOG.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Marathon, Myth and Oni disagree with you. They weren't a household name before Halo, but they were still an incredibly important dev house. I could say that Naughty Dog wasn't recognized until they were bought by Sony.DarkLink77

You pretty much said all that needed to be said right there.

NAUGHTY DOG created CRASH BANDICOOT and their many other IP's before they were "bought" by Sony?

Marathon and Myth....While I've heard of those, very few people have...Same with Oni.

Naughty dog has just as many little thought about oldies just like that, including RING OF POWER (cult underground RPG).

Fact is, Naughty Dog's done severl different genres, more than Bungie, has more critical acclaim, and has been around many years before Bungie was even formed.

Sorry...Naughty Dog takes the win.

For me Naughty Dog. I love them to bits.

Jak and Daxter>Halo2!!!!

Based off of critical reception of Games, Bungie has the better track record, consistently as well. Personally however, I vastly prefer Naughty Dog. In fact, I'd go as far as to say Naughty Dog are my favorite devs period.

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You pretty much said all that needed to be said right there.

NAUGHTY DOG created CRASH BANDICOOT and their many other IP's before they were "bought" by Sony?

Persistantthug

Marathon and Myth....While I've heard of those, very few people have...Same with Oni.

Naughty dog has just as many little thought about oldies just like that, including RING OF POWER (cult underground RPG).

Fact is, Naughty Dog's done severl different genres, more than Bungie, has more critical acclaim, and has been around many years before Bungie was even formed.

Sorry...Naughty Dog takes the win.

bungie is great but naughty dog has a longer and greater track record with a larger selection of games. uncharted is the best franchise this generation. so i have to go with naughty dog

guys guys....Halo Reach>>>>anything naughty dog has made. enough said

Revolution316

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Bungie has done a lot more for the gaming institution has a whole.

Kickinurass

Bungie was basically made by Microsoft.

Naughty Dog was creating games as far back as the SEGA GENESIS, and even before that on Apple IIGS's.

Naughty Dog has won more Critical Acclaim, and has sold many millions of copies of lucrative franchises (Crash Bandicoot for example).

Bungies most acclaimed game is Halo. Yes it is popular, but like I said, they were made by Microsoft.

I'd argue its the other way around. Halo CE had little to no backing at the time - hell I thought my dad would bring home Max Payne which is what everyone seemed to be talking about at the time. Yet it released and blew up way beyond what anyone could have expected.

Then Halo 2 and set a the bar for online console gaming.

I'd say Halo made the Xbox, if anything.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They created Crash, which was their only major IP before being acquired. Bungie had Marathon, Myth, and Oni to a lesser extent before being acquired by MS.jg4xchamp

Marathon and Myth....While I've heard of those, very few people have...Same with Oni.

Naughty dog has just as many little thought about oldies just like that, including RING OF POWER (cult underground RPG).

Fact is, Naughty Dog's done severl different genres, more than Bungie, has more critical acclaim, and has been around many years before Bungie was even formed.

Sorry...Naughty Dog takes the win.

Naughty Dog have released more and Better IPs but i think it's stupid how people are saying Bungie are **** they aren't very good....all i can say is are you guys on drugs? Seriously.

I prefer Bungie as a developer (let's be honest they are awesome with there community) But naughty dog over time have been more consistant.

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Marathon and Myth....While I've heard of those, very few people have...Same with Oni.

Naughty dog has just as many little thought about oldies just like that, including RING OF POWER (cult underground RPG).

Fact is, Naughty Dog's done severl different genres, more than Bungie, has more critical acclaim, and has been around many years before Bungie was even formed.

Sorry...Naughty Dog takes the win.

DarkLink77

I disagree.

It isn't the most critical factor, but "length of time" does count for something. You don't get to stay in business for over 20 years for being crappy.

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BUNGIE

NAUGHTY DOG

Persistantthug

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Popularity does not discredit Bungie's quality long before Halo. Halo was just their breakout hit, but Marathon and Myth is when they solidified themselves as a good-great developer. Halo just iced it and put them on the map. But to be fair in a 10 year span Bungie has done Halo In a 10 year span Naughty Dog has done Jak 1-3 and Uncharted 1 and 2. So If we go by what have you done for me lately. Naughty Dog has given us more variety. Persistantthug

I disagree.

It isn't the most critical factor, but "length of time" does count for something. You don't get to stay in business for over 20 years for being crappy.

guys guys....Halo Reach>>>>anything naughty dog has made. enough said

Revolution316

I like Uncharted series a lot more then i like Halo.

however with that said....

I say

Bungie in the multiplayer department. It is exremely hard to get the formula down right for general audience to really like.

Naughty Dog in the single-player department.

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NAUGHTY DOG

XanderZane

Bungie because they are amazing. They made Halo ..... one of the greatest/most successful franchises of all time. Halo is still very much top dog FPS when it comes to features. Also people saying Bungie never made a game other than Halo ..... thats because MS wouldn't let them. Nonstop-Madness

Naughty dog

They made Crash, Jak, and Uncharted

toast_burner

This

Thats way to easy, Naughty Dog by a long shot. Bungie is not a very good developer IMHO and are now with the Hitler of video game publishers.djsifer01

So you're basically asking "are you a PS3 fanoy or 360 fanboy." Because that's what it'll boil down to. I don't get why we have to compare them, they're both great.

as much as I love naughty dog, bungie all the way

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Bungie because they are amazing. They made Halo ..... one of the greatest/most successful franchises of all time. Halo is still very much top dog FPS when it comes to features. Also people saying Bungie never made a game other than Halo ..... thats because MS wouldn't let them. djsifer01

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Bungie because they are amazing. They made Halo ..... one of the greatest/most successful franchises of all time. Halo is still very much top dog FPS when it comes to features. Also people saying Bungie never made a game other than Halo ..... thats because MS wouldn't let them. djsifer01

He was probably referring to Theatre, Forge,Custom Games, 4 player campaign (Really seems like we're losing the co-op this gen... WTF) the metagame scoring, and B.net integration.

Suprisingly, playing through Perfect Dark has made me realize how feature packed that game was for its time as well. Shame so little of it caught on.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] More critical acclaim is iffy. The only way to judge that would be to line up the MC (or GR) averages of all their games, and see who's got a higher score. However, there are obvious problems with that. And how long a dev house has been around doesn't mean anything in terms of what they make, just how much.jg4xchamp

I disagree.

It isn't the most critical factor, but "length of time" does count for something. You don't get to stay in business for over 20 years for being crappy.

Ok...fair enough. :)

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Bungie because they are amazing. They made Halo ..... one of the greatest/most successful franchises of all time. Halo is still very much top dog FPS when it comes to features. Also people saying Bungie never made a game other than Halo ..... thats because MS wouldn't let them. djsifer01

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NAUGHTY DOG

jg4xchamp

Naughty dog, halo and uncharted are even even both having their best game that was exclusive scoring a 9.5

but Jak and daxter tilts the scale to naughty dog for me but keep in mind ive never played the myth/oni stuff by bungie

Not a fan of either of them. They both make cliche'd, non existent innovation, subpar games in my opinion.

Both are great but I give a very very slight edge to ND. The Uncharted games are some of my favorites of all time.

lol? 3 great series are better than a company that makes the SAME game 4 times, with better graphics. Crash, Jak, Uncharted series > Halo. by a longshot.Sh4nk3r

:lol:

This is funny because it's ultimately true.

And sometimes........

sometimes they didn't even bother to do better graphics.

:lol:

lol

lol's aside, though....

I would like to submit, for fairness and honesty's sake,

MYTH was a critically acclaimed RTS series in the late 90's.

Bungie gets "points" for that.

Fair is fair...and truth is truth.

:)

I voted for Naughty Dog and I don't think it's really close. Bungie caught fire in a bottle with the Halo series but I'm not confident in their ability to create another quality franchise. The last non-Halo game I played from Bungie was Oni, and that was a very mediocre (at best) game. Naughty Dog has delivered quality titles ever since Playstation with Crash Bandicoot. The Jak series prooved the devoloper was more than a one trick pony, churning out another top notch series. The Uncharted series speaks for itself this generation and in my opinion Bungie as a way to go to catch up to Naughty Dog.

lol? 3 great series are better than a company that makes the SAME game 4 times, with better graphics. Crash, Jak, Uncharted series > Halo. by a longshot.Sh4nk3r

I lol'd.

I voted for Naughty Dog and I don't think it's really close. Bungie caught fire in a bottle with the Halo series but I'm not confident in their ability to create another quality franchise. The last non-Halo game I played from Bungie was Oni, and that was a very mediocre (at best) game. Naughty Dog has delivered quality titles ever since Playstation with Crash Bandicoot. The Jak series prooved the devoloper was more than a one trick pony, churning out another top notch series. The Uncharted series speaks for itself this generation and in my opinion Bungie as a way to go to catch up to Naughty Dog.

richsena

THIS

is what you call sound logic

However, like I said though, MYTH shouldn't be dismissed. It was being released around the Crash Bandicoot era....fair is fair, afterall. ;)

[QUOTE="Sh4nk3r"]lol? 3 great series are better than a company that makes the SAME game 4 times, with better graphics. Crash, Jak, Uncharted series > Halo. by a longshot.Dataleak

I lol'd.

Its jak not jax..

[QUOTE="Sh4nk3r"]lol? 3 great series are better than a company that makes the SAME game 4 times, with better graphics. Crash, Jak, Uncharted series > Halo. by a longshot.Dataleak

I lol'd.

lol

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Evz0rz"] Bungie made some really great games before Halo too...just saying. Personally I can't decide :PDarkLink77

Not a fan of either of them. They both make cliche'd, non existent innovation, subpar games in my opinion.

Dataleak

Bungie did one thing great. ND has done multiple things very very good. I will say I dont think naughty dog is worth what Bungie is (as in they wont be getting the deal Bungie did from Activision anytime soon)shadow8585

Lets be clear, because I have a feeling you are a bit misinformed...

UNCHARTED 2 is considered one of THE GREATEST games of alltime...right now.

Also, why would Naughty Dog go looking for a deal with Activision? They weren't foolish enough to sign with someone stiffling and uncreative in the first place (Microsoft), and they surely wouldn't back that up and sign with someone as greedy, stiffling as Activision...seriously....Sony's much better than both for game developers.

But out of curiosity, Why wouldn't Naughty Dog be worth as much if not more than Bungie? They are fresh off one of THE GREATEST games of alltime, with a very distinguished track record...more distinguished than Bungie...that's for sure.

Naughty Dog, Uncharted/Jak and Daxter/Crash bandicoot vs Halo and ................... Halo

3 AAA series vs 1 AAA

its no contest really