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[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]360. It offers nothing more to gaming, then just games. I don't think "next-gen" is just about an graphical update.Stevo_the_gamer

What's your view on the Wii? Motion Sensing controls in games has been out since the 80s, which was by Microsoft too - Sidewinder Pro, I believe the name of the device was. Nothing "Next-Generation" about it? Come on - AI, physics, graphics, sound, media center, and high definition. What does the Wii have again? Does it even have DVD playback? :lol: :P

nothing next generation about the Ps3 or the 360 either.. they are both current generation.

Couldn't find your other post but the one where you said mario kart on the ps2 is what I'm referring to here... You say how many times can we play the same thing over and over on the Wii with the same characters.. How many shooters, with different characters, slightly different stories can be played over and over on the 360/ps3? Gaming hasn't had a really good new idea in a long time. Cept maybe patapon.. but even then its not THAT diferent.

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#52 Mad_Rhetoric
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1st. wii- the console is all ready outdated, and nintendo will probably release a new console knowing that

2. ps3- currently dead last in the console race, and thats a bad sign, even if sales increase thats not going to save it

3. 360 - since its really successful unlike xbox 1

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lol Dude the PS3 is only dead last because the 360 launched before the PS3 and the Wii is incredible. It's not a "bad sign" the PS3 is in dead last, it's common sense. The 360 will go out before the PS3 because it's faulty, no WiFi, no next gen format, no bluetooth, etc. MS will be first to the market again next gen, regardless of costs - they've proven that to all of us this gen... rushing a console to launch regardless of reliability.

Besides, the Wii is in a league of it's own and playing by it's own rules. It isnt looking at what Sony and MS is doing, and will release the Wii according to Nintendo's schedule, not Sony or MS's.

the 360 is going to die out first becuse it has no blue tooth or wifi? :lol:

the majority of the public has cabled internet, no a small percentage of people have wifi hence why you can buy it seperately, and bluetooth on the ps3 has an issue of disconnecting from the console 2 feet way.

BTW: the ps2 didn't even have a modem, HDD, or 4 controller ports, making people buy them sepertly YET ITS BEEN SUSSESFUL FOR 8 YEARS, and the 360 will probably follow the same path since it has the largest game libarary like the ps2

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#53 Gen007
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i think its too early to tell the only reason 360 came out first is because xbox wasnt selling if it were they would have rode it out just like sony did it depends on how the systems are doing at like their 5 year mark because the i dont think any of the companies will release new consoles until the current ones completelty stop selling or they may release a new one because someone else did.
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#54 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"] I'll give you sound but HD HAHAHA funny... Anyways if you want physics play elebits on the wii. AI isnt impressive on any system.Stevo_the_gamer
720p, 1080i, 1080p - High Definition through Componite A/V (which is supplied) or optional HDMI. Wii has... Erm, 480p? :lol: My original Xbox does 480p. Physics on the Xbox 360 (and PS3), and the artificial intelligence is leaps and bounds above the what the Wii will ever manage to do.

Yet said games have yet to be realeased.
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#55 rexCo
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I don't think any console will "die out" first, unless its successor is released and is worth its price. No system shows signs of pulling a Dreamcast, so I think they're all good.
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#56 Mad_Rhetoric
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"] I'll give you sound but HD HAHAHA funny... Anyways if you want physics play elebits on the wii. AI isnt impressive on any system.Stevo_the_gamer
720p, 1080i, 1080p - High Definition through Componite A/V (which is supplied) or optional HDMI. Wii has... Erm, 480p? :lol: My original Xbox does 480p. Physics on the Xbox 360 (and PS3), and the artificial intelligence is leaps and bounds above the what the Wii will ever manage to do.

the original xbox had games that run in 720p
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#57 hayato_
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

1st. wii- the console is all ready outdated, and nintendo will probably release a new console knowing that

2. ps3- currently dead last in the console race, and thats a bad sign, even if sales increase thats not going to save it

3. 360 - since its really successful unlike xbox 1

Mad_Rhetoric

lol Dude the PS3 is only dead last because the 360 launched before the PS3 and the Wii is incredible. It's not a "bad sign" the PS3 is in dead last, it's common sense. The 360 will go out before the PS3 because it's faulty, no WiFi, no next gen format, no bluetooth, etc. MS will be first to the market again next gen, regardless of costs - they've proven that to all of us this gen... rushing a console to launch regardless of reliability.

Besides, the Wii is in a league of it's own and playing by it's own rules. It isnt looking at what Sony and MS is doing, and will release the Wii according to Nintendo's schedule, not Sony or MS's.

the 360 is going to die out first becuse it has no blue tooth or wifi? :lol:

the majority of the public has cabled internet, no a small percentage of people have wifi hence why you can buy it seperately, and bluetooth on the ps3 has an issue of disconnecting from the console 2 feet way.

BTW: the ps2 didn't even have a modem, HDD, or 4 controller ports, making people buy them sepertly YET ITS BEEN SUSSESFUL FOR 8 YEARS, and the 360 will probably follow the same path since it has the largest game libarary like the ps2

That one made me lol, but just for a little bit. Don't over do it. The PS2 library is HUGE and its still growing.

The X box will crap out early. They will probably want to come out with something new and improved. Maybe with a *cough* HDD*cough* They will release it before Sony can release a new console. They will make sure they fix the RROD issue.

The Wii will come next. It will probably update graphic wise but the base of gaming will stay with it.

Sony will basically support the PS family, especially the PS3, for awhile. 10 plus years

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#58 Mad_Rhetoric
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

1st. wii- the console is all ready outdated, and nintendo will probably release a new console knowing that

2. ps3- currently dead last in the console race, and thats a bad sign, even if sales increase thats not going to save it

3. 360 - since its really successful unlike xbox 1

hayato_

lol Dude the PS3 is only dead last because the 360 launched before the PS3 and the Wii is incredible. It's not a "bad sign" the PS3 is in dead last, it's common sense. The 360 will go out before the PS3 because it's faulty, no WiFi, no next gen format, no bluetooth, etc. MS will be first to the market again next gen, regardless of costs - they've proven that to all of us this gen... rushing a console to launch regardless of reliability.

Besides, the Wii is in a league of it's own and playing by it's own rules. It isnt looking at what Sony and MS is doing, and will release the Wii according to Nintendo's schedule, not Sony or MS's.

the 360 is going to die out first becuse it has no blue tooth or wifi? :lol:

the majority of the public has cabled internet, no a small percentage of people have wifi hence why you can buy it seperately, and bluetooth on the ps3 has an issue of disconnecting from the console 2 feet way.

BTW: the ps2 didn't even have a modem, HDD, or 4 controller ports, making people buy them sepertly YET ITS BEEN SUSSESFUL FOR 8 YEARS, and the 360 will probably follow the same path since it has the largest game libarary like the ps2

That one made me lol, but just for a little bit. Don't over do it. The PS2 library is HUGE and its still growing.

The X box will crap out early. They will probably want to come out with something new and improved. Maybe with a *cough* HDD*cough* They will release it before Sony can release a new console. They will make sure they fix the RROD issue.

The Wii will come next. It will probably update graphic wise but the base of gaming will stay with it.

Sony will basically support the PS family, especially the PS3, for awhile. 10 plus years

please stop talking out of your ass, M$ abondoned xbox1 becuase its wasn't a success, instead of kicking a dead horse

they decided to focus all their time and energy into the 360, which is doing a phenomenal job at the moment, no other current gen system comes close to it in terms of games, and M$ has no reason to jump the gun and release another xbox before any one else

and if you think the ps3 will last 10 years you should get a new crystal ball

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#59 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

1st. wii- the console is all ready outdated, and nintendo will probably release a new console knowing that

2. ps3- currently dead last in the console race, and thats a bad sign, even if sales increase thats not going to save it

3. 360 - since its really successful unlike xbox 1

Mad_Rhetoric

lol Dude the PS3 is only dead last because the 360 launched before the PS3 and the Wii is incredible. It's not a "bad sign" the PS3 is in dead last, it's common sense. The 360 will go out before the PS3 because it's faulty, no WiFi, no next gen format, no bluetooth, etc. MS will be first to the market again next gen, regardless of costs - they've proven that to all of us this gen... rushing a console to launch regardless of reliability.

Besides, the Wii is in a league of it's own and playing by it's own rules. It isnt looking at what Sony and MS is doing, and will release the Wii according to Nintendo's schedule, not Sony or MS's.

the 360 is going to die out first becuse it has no blue tooth or wifi? :lol:

the majority of the public has cabled internet, no a small percentage of people have wifi hence why you can buy it seperately, and bluetooth on the ps3 has an issue of disconnecting from the console 2 feet way.

BTW: the ps2 didn't even have a modem, HDD, or 4 controller ports, making people buy them sepertly YET ITS BEEN SUSSESFUL FOR 8 YEARS, and the 360 will probably follow the same path since it has the largest game libarary like the ps2

That one made me lol, but just for a little bit. Don't over do it. The PS2 library is HUGE and its still growing.

The X box will crap out early. They will probably want to come out with something new and improved. Maybe with a *cough* HDD*cough* They will release it before Sony can release a new console. They will make sure they fix the RROD issue.

The Wii will come next. It will probably update graphic wise but the base of gaming will stay with it.

Sony will basically support the PS family, especially the PS3, for awhile. 10 plus years

please stop talking out of your ass, M$ abondoned xbox1 becuase its wasn't a success, instead of kicking a dead horse

they decided to focus all their time and energy into the 360, which is doing a phenomenal job at the moment, no other current gen system comes close to it in terms of games, and M$ has no reason to jump the gun and release another xbox before any one else

and if you think the ps3 will last 10 years you should get a new crystal ball

THe PS2 is knocking on what is it 8 or 9 years. The game list is still growing. When MS has achieved the status that Sony has gotten with the PS2 then you can get back at me.

Don't take it so seriously man. Calm down its not that important. IM just calling it as I see it.

The 360 has problems with it that need to be resolved. RROD and etc

Hell the PS3 outsold it with no real big exclusives. I could care less, but Sony is gonna support the PS3 for much longer based on past expriences.

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#60 rexCo
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and if you think the ps3 will last 10 years you should get a new crystal ball

LOL. Genius.

Anyways, 10 years? No way. It might keep selling that long (with a lot of luck, I doubt the PS3 will be like the PS2 frankly), but I highly doubt they'll support it fully and not have released another console by then.
But this gen has been a surprise so far. Who knows?
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#61 Mad_Rhetoric
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]lol Dude the PS3 is only dead last because the 360 launched before the PS3 and the Wii is incredible. It's not a "bad sign" the PS3 is in dead last, it's common sense. The 360 will go out before the PS3 because it's faulty, no WiFi, no next gen format, no bluetooth, etc. MS will be first to the market again next gen, regardless of costs - they've proven that to all of us this gen... rushing a console to launch regardless of reliability.

Besides, the Wii is in a league of it's own and playing by it's own rules. It isnt looking at what Sony and MS is doing, and will release the Wii according to Nintendo's schedule, not Sony or MS's.

hayato_

the 360 is going to die out first becuse it has no blue tooth or wifi? :lol:

the majority of the public has cabled internet, no a small percentage of people have wifi hence why you can buy it seperately, and bluetooth on the ps3 has an issue of disconnecting from the console 2 feet way.

BTW: the ps2 didn't even have a modem, HDD, or 4 controller ports, making people buy them sepertly YET ITS BEEN SUSSESFUL FOR 8 YEARS, and the 360 will probably follow the same path since it has the largest game libarary like the ps2

That one made me lol, but just for a little bit. Don't over do it. The PS2 library is HUGE and its still growing.

The X box will crap out early. They will probably want to come out with something new and improved. Maybe with a *cough* HDD*cough* They will release it before Sony can release a new console. They will make sure they fix the RROD issue.

The Wii will come next. It will probably update graphic wise but the base of gaming will stay with it.

Sony will basically support the PS family, especially the PS3, for awhile. 10 plus years

please stop talking out of your ass, M$ abondoned xbox1 becuase its wasn't a success, instead of kicking a dead horse

they decided to focus all their time and energy into the 360, which is doing a phenomenal job at the moment, no other current gen system comes close to it in terms of games, and M$ has no reason to jump the gun and release another xbox before any one else

and if you think the ps3 will last 10 years you should get a new crystal ball

THe PS2 is knocking on what is it 8 or 9 years. The game list is still growing. When MS has achieved the status that Sony has gotten with the PS2 then you can get back at me.

Don't take it so seriously man. Calm down its not that important. IM just calling it as I see it.

The 360 has problems with it that need to be resolved. RROD and etc

Hell the PS3 outsold it with no real big exclusives. I could care less, but Sony is gonna support the PS3 for much longer based on past expriences.

yeah cuz lots of people bought it for a cheap blu ray player, hence its pitiful software sales
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#62 hayato_
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yeah cuz lots of people bought it for a cheap blu ray player, hence its pitiful software salesMad_Rhetoric

You just brought up another reason why the PS3 will probably last alot longer than the 360.

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#63 rexCo
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You just brought up another reason why the PS3 will probably last alot longer than the 360.

Blu-Ray players (if Blu-Ray becomes the dominant platform) will drop in price A LOT in coming years.
Don't count on that helping the PS3 much down the road.

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#65 hayato_
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You just brought up another reason why the PS3 will probably last alot longer than the 360.

Blu-Ray players (if Blu-Ray becomes the dominant platform) will drop in price A LOT in coming years.
Don't count on that helping the PS3 much down the road.

rexCo

It will probably lower the price even more for the PS3 allowing more people to buy it as a console or blu ray machine whatever there choice I don't care. I remember thats what happen to the PS2. I think.

Blu ray has already beaten out HD DVD and since HD TVs are starting to penetrate household more and more people will start using a HD format, hence Blu ray.

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#67 Mad_Rhetoric
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

yeah cuz lots of people bought it for a cheap blu ray player, hence its pitiful software saleshayato_

You just brought up another reason why the PS3 will probably last alot longer than the 360.

for watching movies and that only right now
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#68 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

yeah cuz lots of people bought it for a cheap blu ray player, hence its pitiful software salesMad_Rhetoric

You just brought up another reason why the PS3 will probably last alot longer than the 360.

for watching movies and that only right now

When was choice for the consumer a bad thing?

Gaming/ Movie player, sounds like a deal to me. I haven't watched a single blu ray because well I don't care, but im sure some people will buy it for a Blu ray player and not pick up a single game. The opition is what poeple (the consumer) thrive on and the appeal of the PS3 is what people will buy.

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#69 rexCo
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[QUOTE="rexCo"]

You just brought up another reason why the PS3 will probably last alot longer than the 360.

Blu-Ray players (if Blu-Ray becomes the dominant platform) will drop in price A LOT in coming years.
Don't count on that helping the PS3 much down the road.

hayato_

It will probably lower the price even more for the PS3 allowing more people to buy it as a console or blu ray machine whatever there choice I don't care. I remember thats what happen to the PS2. I think.

Blu ray has already beaten out HD DVD and since HD TVs are starting to penetrate household more and more people will start using a HD format, hence Blu ray.



Very possible, but what I'm saying is that people won't buy it solely because it's a sweet deal compared to BluRay players anymore. And I just don't think the BluRay capabilities of the PS3 will be able to make it dominate this time around.
You never know though.
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Probably 360. Microsoft will kill it off just like they did the original Xbox.
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#71 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="rexCo"]

You just brought up another reason why the PS3 will probably last alot longer than the 360.

Blu-Ray players (if Blu-Ray becomes the dominant platform) will drop in price A LOT in coming years.
Don't count on that helping the PS3 much down the road.

rexCo

It will probably lower the price even more for the PS3 allowing more people to buy it as a console or blu ray machine whatever there choice I don't care. I remember thats what happen to the PS2. I think.

Blu ray has already beaten out HD DVD and since HD TVs are starting to penetrate household more and more people will start using a HD format, hence Blu ray.



Very possible, but what I'm saying is that people won't buy it solely because it's a sweet deal compared to BluRay players anymore. And I just don't think the BluRay capabilities of the PS3 will be able to make it dominate this time around.
You never know though.

THe blu ray won't help the PS3 short term. You are right. Theirs no way it can dominate the gen actually.

In the long term though you will see sales increase more and more. ( We are seeing it now) The big exclusives are coming and GT 5 Prologue and MGS bundles are outselling in some regions. I just think with all this success they will support it longer. Games are hard to develop for the console and take a long time.

The reason why I said the 360 is maybe because its used as a a gaming machine "only" .This is if we want to talk about the long term btw. I love gaming just as much as the next guy and I think Microsoft hit it dead on this gen, but I do see them switching it up trying to be a multi media device such as the PS3. Face it Microsoft loves money they want the consumers and they could have had them.

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#72 mbrockway
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xbox will last longer as a gaming system, wait we buy game consols for games dont we? so shut uyp about how the ps3 has blue ray, blue tooth, wifi. well if the ps3 is so good why is it doing so bad. so shove your blue ray up your ass because no one wants it because a thing called dvd is alot more sucuesful and easier to dev forwii60own

What are you talking about? The ps3 is doing awesome. Its beating the 360 by almost a million units so far this year during the Christmas hangover. It sold more in 2007 than the 360. GT5: P Bluray version is SOLD OUT in Europe. That much maligned "overpriced demo" everyone loves to bash. The MGS4 Japan bundle is SOLD OUT as well. PREORDER SOLD OUT. This year is looking crazy good for Sony and even the price cut in Europe may not help MS stem the tide.

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#73 goblaa
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Most likely the 360 because well, that's just how MS does things.

The PS4 will prolly be out in another 4-5 years, but the PS3 will prolly reamin on the market for another 4-5 after that.

Wii...Well, if there's anything we've learned from Nintendo, it's not to try and predict what crazy thing they do next.

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#74 Gen007
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and if you think the ps3 will last 10 years you should get a new crystal ball

LOL. Genius.

Anyways, 10 years? No way. It might keep selling that long (with a lot of luck, I doubt the PS3 will be like the PS2 frankly), but I highly doubt they'll support it fully and not have released another console by then.
But this gen has been a surprise so far. Who knows?
rexCo

another thing to take in to account is how fast technology is advances ps3 and 360 are already outdated badly and how long has the ps3 been out a little over a year 10 years is asking for alot

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#75 heroofwinds1
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this question can be answered safely by saying that xbox 360 will be the first system to die out.it is the most time out from the other consoles and now it sells worser than all systems.so i believe that microsoft will put out a new console soon.maybe at 2009..
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#76 AgentA-Mi6
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The 360, Europe and Specially Japan Are rejecting the 360 and it's running out of steam is america already. Wii and Ps3 will last a long time and keep delivering great games for years.
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İ think the wii. İt s graphics are just so outdated . i DONT KNOW HOW İT HAS A CHANCE TO LAST LONG AS OTHER CONSOLES BECAUSE THEİR VİSUALS ARE GETTİNG BETTER AND BETTER DAY BY DAY.
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İ think the wii. İt s graphics are just so outdated . i DONT KNOW HOW İT HAS A CHANCE TO LAST LONG AS OTHER CONSOLES BECAUSE THEİR VİSUALS ARE GETTİNG BETTER AND BETTER DAY BY DAY.kaangonultas

QFT. Its looking more and more outdated every day.

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#79 Mad_Rhetoric
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Probably 360. Microsoft will kill it off just like they did the original Xbox. Shadow2k6
:lol: I love the cow logic : if it happens once its a trend