Which of the 3 is the best/most elite/greatest GAME DEVELOPER?

On that list, Bioware. Only they could make KOTOR and Mass Effect. However, Valve comes close in second. You gotta love good ole' Half Life.

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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

Well if you judge based on their best, huge, revolutionary industry changing games... not just GOTY quality but GOTG quality...

Blizzard has: WoW, Diablo and Starcraft AND WARCRAFT series

Valve has: HL1 and HL2, CSS, Portal, source engine (so many mods, its ridiculous, every company should take Valve as an example when it comes to making an engine. graphics arent the most important thing as Valve have learned.)

Bioware doesn't really have any WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU

Badlur's gate, Neverwinter Nights, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate 2 (considered even more influential)

NINTENDO: SMB, SMB3, SM64, Super Metroid, Metroid Prime, LOZ, LOZ:LTTP, LOZ: OOT

Half-Way

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zelda OOT (and beyond) and metroid prime are great games, but not industry changing. RPGs still adhere dungeon and dragon rulesets and the CRPG style of bioware games like baldurs gate (which is definitely more influential ong games as a whole than zelda OOT and they both came out in the same year). metroid prime is fun but not revolutionary like HL1 or CSS was.

the word revolutionary is overused on this board

HF1 and CSS where no more revolutionary then OoT or MP

while they where nothing copared to mario64 who set the basics for how 3d gaming should work

or donkey kong who made the platforming genre

or Wolfenstain/Doom

i didnt say anything about mario and starting a genre doesnt always make it the best. halflife 1 changed FPS and shot it into the future. people always think of goldeneye, but half life should get more recognition because it influenced halo and other shooters more than 007 or PF (mechanics wise it was way better and actually had good AI unlike pretty much every other shooter at that point, hell its even as good as COD MW2's AI who just stand there waiting to get shot, they dont flank ever, use grenades rarely, if ever and all they do is just try to overwhelm you with bullets. it feels like a rail shooter or a time crisis sometimes. you just stay in one place and come out of cover to shoot people, then duck back down to reload) and CS really helped accelerate the growth of PC multiplayer shooters. yeah there was ut and quake which i prefer, but nothing can stand up to the might of counterstrike which is still going strong after all these years. CS must have done something that no other game has done to still have tens of thousands of players world wide after so many years. ut and quake cant claim that and nearly every shooter released this year will be eclipsed by another fad shooter next year and so on and so forth.

I'd go with Bioware simply because RPG happens to be my current favorite genre, though I love Blizzard and Valve, Blizzard has yet to release an on WoW game this gen and Valve's recent games are mostly MP (not much of an MP person).

bioware>valve>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blizzard.

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[QUOTE="ironman388"]

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zelda OOT (and beyond) and metroid prime are great games, but not industry changing. RPGs still adhere dungeon and dragon rulesets and the CRPG style of bioware games like baldurs gate (which is definitely more influential ong games as a whole than zelda OOT and they both came out in the same year). metroid prime is fun but not revolutionary like HL1 or CSS was.

ironman388

the word revolutionary is overused on this board

HF1 and CSS where no more revolutionary then OoT or MP

while they where nothing copared to mario64 who set the basics for how 3d gaming should work

or donkey kong who made the platforming genre

or Wolfenstain/Doom

i didnt say anything about mario and starting a genre doesnt always make it the best. halflife 1 changed FPS and shot it into the future. people always think of goldeneye, but half life should get more recognition because it influenced halo and other shooters more than 007 or PF (mechanics wise it was way better and actually had good AI unlike pretty much every other shooter at that point, hell its even as good as COD MW2's AI who just stand there waiting to get shot, they dont flank ever, use grenades rarely, if ever and all they do is just try to overwhelm you with bullets. it feels like a rail shooter or a time crisis sometimes. you just stay in one place and come out of cover to shoot people, then duck back down to reload) and CS really helped accelerate the growth of PC multiplayer shooters. yeah there was ut and quake which i prefer, but nothing can stand up to the might of counterstrike which is still going strong after all these years. CS must have done something that no other game has done to still have tens of thousands of players world wide after so many years. ut and quake cant claim that and nearly every shooter released this year will be eclipsed by another fad shooter next year and so on and so forth.

well thats what im talking about

dont confuse revolutionary with the best

russia had a revolution

and it wasent by far the best country ever

blizzard.

[QUOTE="LTBlueNeon"]Your missing my point. Look at Valves history they have never made a product on a non Microsoft product. There computer games don't work on Linux or on Macs. They never developed a games for the dream cast, PS2, Game Cube, and PS3, and when they do they start trash talking the product. Even to top it off the founder of Valve worked at Microsoft. There probably not fan boys,but they are bias. ironman388

edit: yeah just checked, some source games do work on Wine or ubuntu. also they made half life 2 on PS2, so yeah get your facts straight AGAIN

Well if you judge based on their best, huge, revolutionary industry changing games... not just GOTY quality but GOTG quality...

Blizzard has: WoW, Diablo and Starcraft

Valve has: HL1 and HL2

Bioware: BG2

so the winner is...

NINTENDO: SMB, SMB3, SM64, Super Metroid, Metroid Prime, LOZ, LOZ:LTTP, LOZ: OOT

Silenthps

the fact that u forgot to add super mario world in that list made me lose all resoect for you

They are all one trick ponies in my book. I will go back with the best of the 3 which is without a doubt Bioware.gamefan67

how is blizzard a 1 trick pony? lol

Bioware. They could sell me a turd in a collectors edition box, and I would still try and play it.

tempest91

It's crazy how much I agree with this.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

Well if you judge based on their best, huge, revolutionary industry changing games... not just GOTY quality but GOTG quality...

Blizzard has: WoW, Diablo and Starcraft

Valve has: HL1 and HL2

Bioware: BG2

so the winner is...

NINTENDO: SMB, SMB3, SM64, Super Metroid, Metroid Prime, LOZ, LOZ:LTTP, LOZ: OOT

batman_is_aweso

the fact that u forgot to add super mario world in that list made me lose all resoect for you

WTF, wheres Infinity Ward and NIS ??

I want to chime in really quick,

I personally feel Valve is overrated. Why?

Because all Valve makes, for the most part, Valve makes mods. They seem to be stagant mod makers, but I included them in this poll because I wanted to hear peoples take.

But yeah...Valve is at heart a mod maker...I don't see what's so special about that...not really special at all as a, suposedly reputed, GAME developer.

If we're not strictly talking about modern gaming my answer is Capcom.

Other: Nintendo.

Anything but Valve,what a ridiculous fanboy company.

Regisland

Out of the three that you have listed I would give Bioware a small edge over the others.

Other: Nintendo.

battalionwars13

Sorry, battalionwars13....

There is no wussy "other" options here.

;)

BioWare>Valve> Blizzard

Blizzard > Valve >>> Bioware. the only RPG developer that could come close to Blizzard/Valve was Black Isle (and may be Origin ? )

...You can tell that a big Bioware game just came out. :P

Anyway Valve > Bioware = Blizzard

Had to go with Blizzard by a tiny margin over Bioware...

and Valve... well they wouldn't even be my 3rd choice...

Nintendo should be on the list more so than Valve....

PS... L4D2 ROCKS!

Troika Games

Troika Games

KiZZo1

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[QUOTE="Regisland"]

Anything but Valve,what a ridiculous fanboy company.

LTBlueNeon

Steam?

Blizzard, by a looong shot

They dominate everything they touch, not like Valve that has to monopolize things to win

or Bioware that keeps doing mostly the same game over and over

Bioware is win, and only one that really impresses me

[QUOTE="gamefan67"]They are all one trick ponies in my book. I will go back with the best of the 3 which is without a doubt Bioware.Espada12

how is blizzard a 1 trick pony? lol

I still haven't voted yet, and I haven't looked at the results, because I don't want it to sway my opinion.

I still think Valve is waaay overrated as a predominately mod maker.

Blizzard is good, but they haven't made a game without the name of WARCRAFT in it in like 9 or 10 years.

Bioware, they're good at what they do, but all they make are Western RPG's and pretty much, nothing else....if anyone of them could be called a "one trick pony", that title could easily could be given to Bioware.

Major flaws with each game developer.

Hard time deciding here. :|

Bioware. They could sell me a turd in a collectors edition box, and I would still try and play it.

tempest91

I'd try and make a dialog conversation with it and then eat it because of its quality.

It has to be a tie between Blizzard and Valve, the amount of good things they have done for the industry are unrivaled

Valve. I have never playeda game with a story as well told as in Half Life and Half Life 2. The atmosphere and level design in every game that they make is wonderful. And they do great things with Mod support and Steam. They many only make FPS games, but they are the best of the best in the FPS genre. But, i would like to see what they would do with a RPG or RTS game.

1.japan studios

2.naughty dog

3. EA

1.japan studios

2.naughty dog

3. EA

k25425

Sorry, But like I said before there is no "other" option.

If so, then we both would have forgotten CAPCOM. They may be one of the best developers out there.

Alas, this is a 3 horse race, and unfortunately, your 3 horses are not included this time....not here...maybe next time. :)

Infinity Ward! :P

Valve - the core team hasn't released anything since HL: Episode 2, and hasn't released a full game since 2004. TF2, Portal, L4D has all been development teams that were "picked up" by valve. Even before that they've pretty much just had half-life. As a publisher they're doing great, and I think steam is has done good things for pc gaming, but as a developer they just don't have enough games published for me to think they're that good.

Blizzard - Until Starcraft II comes out they've just been milking WOW since 2004. If you're one of the 8 million that love WOW it's great, but if you're one of the other 162 million gamers that sucks. Starcraft, Diablo, and other previous titles proves Blizzard makes good games, but they haven't really developed anything besides WOW in the past 10 years.

Bioware - Since 2004 has released Jade Empire, Mass Effect, Sonic Chronicles, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect 2. Then there's KOTAR, Neverwinter Knights, and Baldur's Gate.

I'm going w/ bioware.

I'm going with Bioware. All three have made games I have enjoyed but Bioware has made more games than the other two that I have enjoyed.

Sorry but, Take Two interactive>>>all

Team Ico.

there should be a none of those 3 option