Which servers are better, free servers (psn) ... or PTP servers (XBL)?

Regarding dedicated vs. P2P servers:

The vast majority of console games (on any platform) use peer-to-peer servers, which simply means they make one player run the server. Game servers are not processor-intensive things at this scale... basically all they do is stream out game data to 12-16 clients, and receive incoming player input streams. And they have some code to keep everyone synchronized.

There are a few PS3 games that use dedicated servers... I think Resistance is one, and Warhawk is another. But you're dreaming if you think every online PS3 game uses dedicated servers... few game developers have the money or even expertise to maintain high-availability game server networks capable of serving thousands of simultaneous customers (realistically, only the MMO folks can justify doing that.) And you're especially deluded if you think game developers will do it for free. Home will use dedicated servers, but they have a business model that provides for that -- they will sell you lots of useless crap, and if collectively, you don't buy enough useless crap, they will shut it down.

UnnDunn

I was under the impression that most of Home's income will come from companies advertising in the virtual space in a none invassive manner? :| And with your logic, XBL should be free with the way they charge u for everything.

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

Regarding dedicated vs. P2P servers:

The vast majority of console games (on any platform) use peer-to-peer servers, which simply means they make one player run the server. Game servers are not processor-intensive things at this scale... basically all they do is stream out game data to 12-16 clients, and receive incoming player input streams. And they have some code to keep everyone synchronized.

There are a few PS3 games that use dedicated servers... I think Resistance is one, and Warhawk is another. But you're dreaming if you think every online PS3 game uses dedicated servers... few game developers have the money or even expertise to maintain high-availability game server networks capable of serving thousands of simultaneous customers (realistically, only the MMO folks can justify doing that.) And you're especially deluded if you think game developers will do it for free. Home will use dedicated servers, but they have a business model that provides for that -- they will sell you lots of useless crap, and if collectively, you don't buy enough useless crap, they will shut it down.

-Serpahim-

I was under the impression that most of Home's income will come from companies advertising in the virtual space in a none invassive manner? :| And with your logic, XBL should be free with the way they charge u for everything.

My "logic" is that XBL is worth paying for because it works behind the scenes all the time to make online gaming better, for both players and developers, in a way that is no accident. And it continues to improve, supporting more and more features. For example, stat tracking and reporting is a basic feature added to support XSN Sports back in the day, then refined and developed to support any game that wants to use it. Persistent leaderboards... another XBL standard feature. Global muting... unified identity... offline discounts (over the past year, I've saved more money on movie tickets thanks to XBL than I paid in Xbox Live fees... ) it's like belonging to an exclusive club.

lol to psn servers being better, all those cows that are saying xbl p2p lag havent ever played on live, lagging is rare, it happens on ever server, pc 360 and psn, and weirdly I have been laggying on more ps3 game that on live,amorbis1001

Lol guy acts like he has a ps3. HAHA?

PSN. Hell, I just want to play the game without forced to pay to use gimmick features. I want to PLAAAAY the damn game online.

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]lol to psn servers being better, all those cows that are saying xbl p2p lag havent ever played on live, lagging is rare, it happens on ever server, pc 360 and psn, and weirdly I have been laggying on more ps3 game that on live,L_G_X

Lol guy acts like he has a ps3. HAHA?

please be quiet if you dont know what your talking about, and I have COD4 for both 360 and ps3 and it lags on ps3 alot.

i think the PS3 server's are better because of there dedicated server's, the xbox 360 servers are full of lag, it's been 2 year's and microdoft hasn't got around to the server's, i give them my money and i get lag in return, TF2, COD4, RS Vegas sometimes not all the time LAG

though having said that the xbox 360 is the best way to play games online...

TheMetalSquid

I would look into your internet connection. Because I dont get LAG all the time like you have stated.

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]Haha the Cows have invaded this thread!humber_matus

not only cows ... but lemmigns who arent blind

I didn't realise "lemmigns" were visually impaired. (Insert witty 720p comment here)

PTP is better.

it offers a much easier, unified, online service that allows for limitless gameplay.

servers with ps3 games have been known to drop stats, kick people off, and not allow gamers to connect.

but the really bad part is; the servers are limited-life, meaning eventually the developers will pull the plug on a specific game to make room for new ones, or if the developer goes under altogether, you'll lose access to game on their servers. Happens all the time in this industry.

it's also important to remember that sony has not changed their stance in saying they reserve the right to charge... meaning, eventually they will...

tango90101

they mean that in a different way then XBL. where XBL you pay all the time no matter what(mind you its a measly $50 a year) the PSN will be FREE the entire time BECAUSE rather then one set fee, they'll rely on micro transactions. such as cloths, movies, decorations, new rooms in HOME. also there will be charges for MMO like WOW. but those are up to the developer not sony. as far as i know MS also charges for micro transactions and im willing to bet MMO's will also be charges on top of Live fees

And the guy that says COD4 lags really badly on his PS3 is flat out lying. im not gonna lie like a few people here and say ive never experienced lag but i will say it rarely happens and its not to the point of unplayability. maybe like ALL game guides suggest you should make sure you have the proper ports opened on your router. and also if you your using wi-fi try switching to wired, if you playing wireless on PS3 and wired on 360 then you're not giving a fair judgement(thats not to say you are)

Thanks everyone, believe me I have read everything and it was tooo much to read. Anyways, I did see a few people mention the things XBL comes with. And I know what they are, and yes that is one thing that makesit stand out from the PSN. BUT I kinda knew I wouldnt get a legit answer (I know some of yous gave me some). I thank you all, believe me I think I know what system I should get. It might get some of my friends mad, but ps3 I think will be my choice. Believe me I have opened my eyes, and the 360 is a great system. But just like when Sega was around I always stuck with the system that I loved from the start. After Sega gave up on the system war, I picked Sony. And believe me I had too many sega systems. Starting from Sega Genesis, and ending with the Dreamcast (best system ever .. R.I.P). I guess thats how I still am now, had the first PS, and the 2nd ... and then PSP ... now all I need is the ps3 to complete my list. NOW if Sony decides to give up on the system war, then my choice of system would be the xbox.

I have a question if a MMO goes to the 360, do you also have to pay for it?? Like do you have to pay for the 360 connection, and the MMO?

Based purely on P2P versus dedicated servers, PSN is the clear winner in my mind.

I've never had lag in Call of Duty 4, myself.

if ur a previous sony fan the obvious choice is the ps3, why would you want to miss out on metal gear solid 4, gt5, final fantasy 13 and god of war 3..plus well free online and Home is coming.

Based purely on P2P versus dedicated servers, PSN is the clear winner in my mind.

I've never had lag in Call of Duty 4, myself.

Thompsonwhore

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]lol to psn servers being better, all those cows that are saying xbl p2p lag havent ever played on live, lagging is rare, it happens on ever server, pc 360 and psn, and weirdly I have been laggying on more ps3 game that on live,amorbis1001

Lol guy acts like he has a ps3. HAHA?

please be quiet if you dont know what your talking about, and I have COD4 for both 360 and ps3 and it lags on ps3 alot.

why would you buy both?

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

Based purely on P2P versus dedicated servers, PSN is the clear winner in my mind.

I've never had lag in Call of Duty 4, myself.

doobie1975

right now its just RFOM and Warhawk.

I heard of some game for the 360 is going to be dedicated, but I can't remember the name since I'm sure it wasn't a game i'm interested in. does anyone have an idea what game I'm talking about, I could be wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know.