Which should I buy - SSBB or Nintendogs?

[QUOTE="buuzer0"]If someone asked me that in real life, male or female, i'd give them a FALCON PUNCH right in the mouthStonin

I'm hoping that's an alcoholic beverage but I fear it's not..... ;).

Hmm... actually... that would be an awesome name fora mixed drink. Gonna do some experimentation and get back to ya. Such a drink will inevitably have this effect though:

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]Nintendogs IS one of the best games of all time, or at least one of the best-made games of all time. Just because you're insecure over the possibility that a casual game can be good doesn't take away from the pure quality of its construction and the addicting realism of its gameplay. Few other games are so perfect at what they are supposed to do, and that's what makes Nintendogs deserving of a perfect score.

Stonin

Funniest post today, congrats :).

Unlike you, I wasn't being sarcastic, and unlike you, I'm being realistic. Personally, it's not my kind of game, but no other sim game is as realistic and at the same time enjoyable, and you'd be hard pressed to find any other game that's been embraced so wholly and enthusiastically by its target audience. If that's not a major criteria for receiving a perfect score, I don't know what is. You and I may not be part of that target audience, but that doesn't make it any less viable of an audience for a game to appeal to and be judged by.

Yeah, I mean it really hits its target audience much better than say Mario Kart, The Sims or Tetris,all of which did not recieve perfect scores. Honestly, to say that Nintendogs is one of the greatest games of all time when there are hundreds of titles out there that are 'embraced so wholly and enthusiastically bytheir target audience' really is laughable.

MarioKart, Sims, and Tetris have never been as wholly accepted as Nintendogs. Show any of those games to someone who has never heard of them before, and the best you can likely expect is a patronizing smile and a nod. Maybe later he/she will toy around with it, and eventually find it fun enough to start an obsession. But show Nintendogs to ANYONE who isn't a hardcore gamer and who has never heard of it before, and it's practically certain to instantly fascinate him (or, more likely, her).

Note the word choice: fascinate. Not simply "interest," which is the case with most other games. That ability to instantly fascinate people is a quality shared by very few other games, if any at all. It's certainly not something that the jaded hardcore who delude themselves into thinking that they have seen everything can appreciate. More copies of Nintendogs have been sold than copies of the Sims, and it's still selling, even though there are far fewer DSes than PCs, and that's yet another testament to the perfection of the game's design and construction.

[QUOTE="Krudus"]

LMAO at the damage control in this thread. only 6 times before have famitsu given perfect scores, and games such as mario galaxy got lower. famitsu might not be the most reliable source but 40/40 from them is still impressive, something that almost no other games could do, and that is not a bad thing. beside, is nintendogs not an AAA title?

the frightened fanboys are truly pathetic, scared that smash bros in indeed all its cranked up to be.

Stonin

Frightened fanboys? You do know I own a Wii right? Seems to me you're a little defensive for some reason ;).

ye except the entire thread is filled with your damage controlling and trying to twist this into the worst possible angle, so yes kiddo, you say one thing in this post but the entire thread worth of your comments says something else ;) definately sounds like a angry fanboy to me;)

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="Krudus"]

LMAO at the damage control in this thread. only 6 times before have famitsu given perfect scores, and games such as mario galaxy got lower. famitsu might not be the most reliable source but 40/40 from them is still impressive, something that almost no other games could do, and that is not a bad thing. beside, is nintendogs not an AAA title?

the frightened fanboys are truly pathetic, scared that smash bros in indeed all its cranked up to be.

Krudus

Frightened fanboys? You do know I own a Wii right? Seems to me you're a little defensive for some reason ;).

ye except the entire thread is filled with your damage controlling and trying to twist this into the worst possible angle, so yes kiddo, you say one thing in this post but the entire thread worth of your comments says something else ;) definately sounds like a angry fanboy to me;)

He's not angry, he's bitter.

Spin Spin Spin! Damage Control!

So funny...you guys do realise that a FANboy is a supporter of something right? That they need to express not only a dislike of something butalso to compare it to something else they feel is better. Tryfinding the posts where I did this, you might struggle.

I would like to point out to the posters above that while you may feel Nintendogs is the 'perfect example' of its genre that 'everyone immediately connects with' you will find that The Sims did this much better. Not only is it the biggestfranchise of all time but it focuses on something that everyone can relate to, people, rather than something every animal lover will relate to (and more specifically dog lovers relate to).

Famitsu did not give The Sims a perfect score yet it deems Nintendogs to surpass it in every way. My point is that it is a little early to say this is going to be the best fighting game ever based on one magazine review that seems to favour Nintendo products. Sorry I upset all of your apple carts but you really should learn to calm down a little.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]Nintendogs IS one of the best games of all time, or at least one of the best-made games of all time. Just because you're insecure over the possibility that a casual game can be good doesn't take away from the pure quality of its construction and the addicting realism of its gameplay. Few other games are so perfect at what they are supposed to do, and that's what makes Nintendogs deserving of a perfect score.

mjarantilla

Funniest post today, congrats :).

Unlike you, I wasn't being sarcastic, and unlike you, I'm being realistic. Personally, it's not my kind of game, but no other sim game is as realistic and at the same time enjoyable, and you'd be hard pressed to find any other game that's been embraced so wholly and enthusiastically by its target audience. If that's not a major criteria for receiving a perfect score, I don't know what is. You and I may not be part of that target audience, but that doesn't make it any less viable of an audience for a game to appeal to and be judged by.

Yeah, I mean it really hits its target audience much better than say Mario Kart, The Sims or Tetris,all of which did not recieve perfect scores. Honestly, to say that Nintendogs is one of the greatest games of all time when there are hundreds of titles out there that are 'embraced so wholly and enthusiastically bytheir target audience' really is laughable.

MarioKart, Sims, and Tetris have never been as wholly accepted as Nintendogs. Show any of those games to someone who has never heard of them before, and the best you can likely expect is a patronizing smile and a nod. Maybe later he/she will toy around with it, and eventually find it fun enough to start an obsession. But show Nintendogs to ANYONE who isn't a hardcore gamer and who has never heard of it before, and it's practically certain to instantly fascinate him (or, more likely, her).

Note the word choice: fascinate. Not simply "interest," which is the case with most other games. That ability to instantly fascinate people is a quality shared by very few other games, if any at all. It's certainly not something that the jaded hardcore who delude themselves into thinking that they have seen everything can appreciate. More copies of Nintendogs have been sold than copies of the Sims, and it's still selling, even though there are far fewer DSes than PCs, and that's yet another testament to the perfection of the game's design and construction.

I'm pretty sure Tetris is better known than Nintendogs...but I can see the love of the game has tainted your view.

Is that a joke ? Save your cash for SSBB...

Or maybe you should get Nintendogs instead as punishment for failing miserably at being funny.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"] One thing that might dissuade me from getting it would be if it turns out that the game is best controlled using a GC controller. If that's the case the game is major fail in my book and I'll stay away from it like the plague. Jandurin

Yes, yes, I'm aware of that. What I meant to say is that,IMO, if the GC control scheme turns out to be the best (which was suggested in several previews), the game fails as a Wii game and I'm not getting it since I'd also have to get another controller (of which Nintendo lets you get a lot. Nintendo making profit of the hardware unlike Sony and M$ in earlier stages of their cosoles lifecycle doesn't surprise me one bit.)

So funny...you guys do realise that a FANboy is a supporter of something right? That they need to express not only a dislike of something butalso to compare it to something else they feel is better. Tryfinding the posts where I did this, you might struggle.

I would like to point out to the posters above that while you may feel Nintendogs is the 'perfect example' of its genre that 'everyone immediately connects with' you will find that The Sims did this much better. Not only is it the biggestfranchise of all time but it focuses on something that everyone can relate to, people, rather than something every animal lover will relate to (and more specifically dog lovers relate to).

Famitsu did not give The Sims a perfect score yet it deems Nintendogs to surpass it in every way. My point is that it is a little early to say this is going to be the best fighting game ever based on one magazine review that seems to favour Nintendo products. Sorry I upset all of your apple carts but you really should learn to calm down a little.

Stonin

Just stop. The Sims doesn't focus on ANYTHING, and it's impossible to relate to anything that happens in the Sims because everything and everyone in it is so artificial and silly. It's an effective lampoon of human behavior, but it's not half the sim that Nintendogs is. The Sims was a great game, no one will deny that, but it was still flawed in many ways, not the least of which were its totally unrealistic behavior model and a tendency for tedium. Nintendogs gives an infinitely more realistic and sympathetic portrayal of endearing living creatures (even if they are canine rather than human) that never gets tedious and packs a ton of content into a tiny package.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="NielsNL"] One thing that might dissuade me from getting it would be if it turns out that the game is best controlled using a GC controller. If that's the case the game is major fail in my book and I'll stay away from it like the plague. NielsNL

Yes, yes, I'm aware of that. What I meant to say is that,IMO, if the GC control scheme turns out to be the best (which was suggested in several previews), the game fails as a Wii game and I'm not getting it since I'd also have to get another controller (of which Nintendo lets you get a lot. Nintendo making profit of the hardware unlike Sony and M$ in earlier stages of their cosoles lifecycle doesn't surprise me one bit.)

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]Nintendogs IS one of the best games of all time, or at least one of the best-made games of all time. Just because you're insecure over the possibility that a casual game can be good doesn't take away from the pure quality of its construction and the addicting realism of its gameplay. Few other games are so perfect at what they are supposed to do, and that's what makes Nintendogs deserving of a perfect score.

Stonin

Funniest post today, congrats :).

Unlike you, I wasn't being sarcastic, and unlike you, I'm being realistic. Personally, it's not my kind of game, but no other sim game is as realistic and at the same time enjoyable, and you'd be hard pressed to find any other game that's been embraced so wholly and enthusiastically by its target audience. If that's not a major criteria for receiving a perfect score, I don't know what is. You and I may not be part of that target audience, but that doesn't make it any less viable of an audience for a game to appeal to and be judged by.

Yeah, I mean it really hits its target audience much better than say Mario Kart, The Sims or Tetris,all of which did not recieve perfect scores. Honestly, to say that Nintendogs is one of the greatest games of all time when there are hundreds of titles out there that are 'embraced so wholly and enthusiastically bytheir target audience' really is laughable.

MarioKart, Sims, and Tetris have never been as wholly accepted as Nintendogs. Show any of those games to someone who has never heard of them before, and the best you can likely expect is a patronizing smile and a nod. Maybe later he/she will toy around with it, and eventually find it fun enough to start an obsession. But show Nintendogs to ANYONE who isn't a hardcore gamer and who has never heard of it before, and it's practically certain to instantly fascinate him (or, more likely, her).

Note the word choice: fascinate. Not simply "interest," which is the case with most other games. That ability to instantly fascinate people is a quality shared by very few other games, if any at all. It's certainly not something that the jaded hardcore who delude themselves into thinking that they have seen everything can appreciate. More copies of Nintendogs have been sold than copies of the Sims, and it's still selling, even though there are far fewer DSes than PCs, and that's yet another testament to the perfection of the game's design and construction.

I'm pretty sure Tetris is better known than Nintendogs...but I can see the love of the game has tainted your view.

I DON'T love the game, or are you so blind in your hate that you missed the part where I said I DIDN'T like Nintendogs, that it wasn't my kind of game, and that I simply recognize quality when I see it? It's something which apparently escapes your narrow-minded vision.

Second, you (unsurprisingly) missed the point I was trying to make. More people might be AWARE of Tetris, but on the off-chance you find someone who doesn't know about either Tetris OR Nintendogs, you're far more likely to fascinate him/her and hook him/her into gaming with Nintendogs than with Tetris.

[QUOTE="Stonin"]

So funny...you guys do realise that a FANboy is a supporter of something right? That they need to express not only a dislike of something butalso to compare it to something else they feel is better. Tryfinding the posts where I did this, you might struggle.

I would like to point out to the posters above that while you may feel Nintendogs is the 'perfect example' of its genre that 'everyone immediately connects with' you will find that The Sims did this much better. Not only is it the biggestfranchise of all time but it focuses on something that everyone can relate to, people, rather than something every animal lover will relate to (and more specifically dog lovers relate to).

Famitsu did not give The Sims a perfect score yet it deems Nintendogs to surpass it in every way. My point is that it is a little early to say this is going to be the best fighting game ever based on one magazine review that seems to favour Nintendo products. Sorry I upset all of your apple carts but you really should learn to calm down a little.

mjarantilla

Just stop. The Sims doesn't focus on ANYTHING, and it's impossible to relate to anything that happens in the Sims because everything and everyone in it is so artificial and silly. It's an effective lampoon of human behavior, but it's not half the sim that Nintendogs is. The Sims was a great game, no one will deny that, but it was still flawed in many ways, not the least of which were its totally unrealistic behavior model and a tendency for tedium. Nintendogs gives an infinitely more realistic and sympathetic portrayal of endearing living creatures (even if they are canine rather than human) that never gets tedious and packs a ton of content into a tiny package.

Yet it is somehow much more popular. Argue all you want but the people have spoken and The Sims will be remembered long after Nintendogs, plain and simple. You are also comparingthe quality of a newgame to that of one released over 10 years ago and completely missing my point (unsurprisingly (see what I did there)).

*Edit* You really do seem to have an irrational love of the product even though you say you don't like it. Odd indeed.

so ssbb getting perfect is damaging? :? either way this and everything else that has the word "mario" in it are the only good games on wiiFreewayScruff

Metroid prime 3 says hi

[QUOTE="FreewayScruff"]so ssbb getting perfect is damaging? :? either way this and everything else that has the word "mario" in it are the only good games on wiifiscope

Metroid prime 3 says hi

So does Excite Truck (yes I just went there, it's a good game damnit).

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

So funny...you guys do realise that a FANboy is a supporter of something right? That they need to express not only a dislike of something butalso to compare it to something else they feel is better. Tryfinding the posts where I did this, you might struggle.

I would like to point out to the posters above that while you may feel Nintendogs is the 'perfect example' of its genre that 'everyone immediately connects with' you will find that The Sims did this much better. Not only is it the biggestfranchise of all time but it focuses on something that everyone can relate to, people, rather than something every animal lover will relate to (and more specifically dog lovers relate to).

Famitsu did not give The Sims a perfect score yet it deems Nintendogs to surpass it in every way. My point is that it is a little early to say this is going to be the best fighting game ever based on one magazine review that seems to favour Nintendo products. Sorry I upset all of your apple carts but you really should learn to calm down a little.

Stonin

Just stop. The Sims doesn't focus on ANYTHING, and it's impossible to relate to anything that happens in the Sims because everything and everyone in it is so artificial and silly. It's an effective lampoon of human behavior, but it's not half the sim that Nintendogs is. The Sims was a great game, no one will deny that, but it was still flawed in many ways, not the least of which were its totally unrealistic behavior model and a tendency for tedium. Nintendogs gives an infinitely more realistic and sympathetic portrayal of endearing living creatures (even if they are canine rather than human) that never gets tedious and packs a ton of content into a tiny package.

Yet it is somehow much more popular. Argue all you want but the people have spoken and The Sims will be remembered long after Nintendogs, plain and simple. You are also comparingthe quality of a newgame to that of one released over 10 years ago and completely missing my point (unsurprisingly (see what I did there)).

Did you again miss the part where I said that Nintendogs has sold just as many copies as the Sims? Both have sold about 16 million copies, and Nintendogs did it in a much shorter span of time. I'd like to know in what world you live in where a game that has sold 16 million copies is "much more popular" than another game that has sold 16 million copies.

Actually, you're the one comparing the quality of a new (if you call a three year old game "new") game to one released over ten years ago, because you're the one who brought up the comparison in the first place.

*Edit* You really do seem to have an irrational love of the product even though you say you don't like it. Odd indeed.Stonin

Yes, odd, because it's not true. See, like most normal people, I can acknowledge quality and talent without having to like it. Are you really so disconnected from reality that you have to spin your own fictions just to continue a conversation?

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

So funny...you guys do realise that a FANboy is a supporter of something right? That they need to express not only a dislike of something butalso to compare it to something else they feel is better. Tryfinding the posts where I did this, you might struggle.

I would like to point out to the posters above that while you may feel Nintendogs is the 'perfect example' of its genre that 'everyone immediately connects with' you will find that The Sims did this much better. Not only is it the biggestfranchise of all time but it focuses on something that everyone can relate to, people, rather than something every animal lover will relate to (and more specifically dog lovers relate to).

Famitsu did not give The Sims a perfect score yet it deems Nintendogs to surpass it in every way. My point is that it is a little early to say this is going to be the best fighting game ever based on one magazine review that seems to favour Nintendo products. Sorry I upset all of your apple carts but you really should learn to calm down a little.

mjarantilla

Just stop. The Sims doesn't focus on ANYTHING, and it's impossible to relate to anything that happens in the Sims because everything and everyone in it is so artificial and silly. It's an effective lampoon of human behavior, but it's not half the sim that Nintendogs is. The Sims was a great game, no one will deny that, but it was still flawed in many ways, not the least of which were its totally unrealistic behavior model and a tendency for tedium. Nintendogs gives an infinitely more realistic and sympathetic portrayal of endearing living creatures (even if they are canine rather than human) that never gets tedious and packs a ton of content into a tiny package.

Yet it is somehow much more popular. Argue all you want but the people have spoken and The Sims will be remembered long after Nintendogs, plain and simple. You are also comparingthe quality of a newgame to that of one released over 10 years ago and completely missing my point (unsurprisingly (see what I did there)).

Did you again miss the part where I said that Nintendogs has sold just as many copies as the Sims? Both have sold about 16 million copies, and Nintendogs did it in a much shorter span of time. I'd like to know in what world you live in where a game that has sold 16 million copies is "much more popular" than another game that has sold 16 million copies.

Actually, you're the one comparing the quality of a new (if you call a three year old game "new") game to one released over ten years ago, because you're the one who brought up the comparison in the first place.

*Edit* You really do seem to have an irrational love of the product even though you say you don't like it. Odd indeed.Stonin

Yes, odd, because it's not true. See, like most normal people, I can acknowledge quality and talent without having to like it. Are you really so disconnected from reality that you have to spin your own fictions just to continue a conversation?

Wow, I really hit a nerve huh? I'll let you cool down a bit but we can always pick this up again later whenthemist lifts:).

Hey, should i buy Zelda OOT or THPS3?Silenthps

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