Who agree's that Sony need to change 2 things....

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#1 Eyezonmii
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1. Difficult hardware designs. (make it more dev friendly)

Because of this, more money needs to be thrown at the hardware to produce the same if not a little better quality, most multiplatfrom titles aren't as good as the 360 version (GTAIV is a great example only 640p for the PS3 version, but it is getting better) and smaller company's see it as a risk.

2. Dualshock controller. (3 generations, come on)

I don't really mind the analog placements, its more the handles, they need to be longer, the triggers need to go, and be redone. Starting to think the boomarang could have been better, play GTAIV with the standard controls on PS3, its unplayable and kills your hands.

other than those 2 things, the PS3 is a great console.

agreed?

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Disagreed.
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#3 OutlawStarXIII
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1. Have you seen multi-plats recently. A lot of devs are already starting to figure out PS3. No need for that 2. I'm to comfortable with my Dualshock after 3 generations, its really grown on me. A Playstation without a DualShock is like a Playstation without Final Fantasy. Heartless
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agreed...and they have to change their arrogance too
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Agreed on hardware, but disagree with controller.
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agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"]Disagreed.Eyezonmii

you rather have consoles with more complex and harder to work, hardware?

I couldn't care less. I'm not a developer. It's not my job to create the games.

Besides, my favorite game developers aren't having any trouble producing great games for me to play with the PS3.

As for the controller, it hasn't changed in three generations because it's damn near perfect. It's easily the most versatile gamepad available.

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agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360
They are just about as arrogant as Microsoft
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#10 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="Jared2720"]Disagreed.Jared2720

you rather have consoles with more complex and harder to work, hardware?

I couldn't care less. I'm not a developer. It's not my job to create the games.

Besides, my favorite game developers aren't having any trouble producing great games for me to play with the PS3.

As for the controller, it hasn't changed in three generations because it's damn near perfect. It's easily the most versatile gamepad available.

perfect? fair enough your opinion, i'd say the 360 controller is about perfect. but seriously, you don't find the PS3 controller alittle awkward while using the triggers?

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agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

they aren't arrogant anymore...

to TC, disagree to controller add jrpg priority

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The controller is just fine. If it aint broke dont fix it.
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#13 kenshinhimura10
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The hardware needs to be changed, but Sony has been weird on this area since day 1.

The controller has worked from generation to generation. You can never please all, but as long as you please the biggest part, you dont need to change it. I find if comfortable, and when analyzing the Boomerang (which I really liked) I found some possible flaws for it, but they could be solved with Z triggers ala N64 placed on both sticks, a bit more separated from the RL1s.

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I agree about the hardware. The PS4 should be the most powerful console next gen but not as difficult as the PS2 and PS3 are to develop for. As for the controller, it's a great design and most people are used to it. The analog sticks could use some improvement, they're too spongy. But that's it.
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agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

Every company is arragant when they are high. Its a simple fact.

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooRagnarok1051

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen. maybe next one

ps: i have psx and ps2

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#17 TheGrat1
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1. I believe Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica have sent out dev kits to help other studios.

2. DS3 just needs better triggers and it will be the perfection that the DS2 was.

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agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

Because arrogance is exclusive to Sony :roll:
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.
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#20 jiggawho2006
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1. Have you seen multi-plats recently. A lot of devs are already starting to figure out PS3. No need for that 2. I'm to comfortable with my Dualshock after 3 generations, its really grown on me. A Playstation without a DualShock is like a Playstation without Final Fantasy. HeartlessOutlawStarXIII

yes i've seen mulit plats recently and ps3 has framerate issues....example 1: pes 2008, example 2: madden

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooTiefster

Because arrogance is exclusive to Sony :roll:

not at all....but they promoted ps3 like if it was something very special. at the end, ps3 is not more than a 360 with less games

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[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooDireToad

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products

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They just need to change their controller and their underwear.
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#24 0rin
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I disagree.

They do need to change some things, but the two things you listed are completely irrelevant to me.

I'd say the two top things they need to change are:

1. Price (which they will change next year with the new 45nm chip, I'm sure)

2. more exclusives. (which is also changing with games like LBP, R2, SOCOM, WKC, and some other first party exclusives)

but your list consists of two rather non-issues IMO. the difficulty is going away, just like with the PS2, and the controller is fine.
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[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products




That's a good reason.
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About the controller Sony has already made the perfect PS controller...back in 1997. The Dual Analog controller!

Dual Analog controller vs Dual Shock 2

Sony please, bring it back.

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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]1. Have you seen multi-plats recently. A lot of devs are already starting to figure out PS3. No need for that 2. I'm to comfortable with my Dualshock after 3 generations, its really grown on me. A Playstation without a DualShock is like a Playstation without Final Fantasy. Heartlessjiggawho2006

yes i've seen mulit plats recently and ps3 has framerate issues....example 1: pes 2008, example 2: madden

Thats 1 year old almost now. He is talking about things as Soul Calibur. Stop being a..........

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[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products



Pretty sure your personal image of the PS3 is somewhat skewed by your personal preferance. The PS3 is nothing like the 360 hardware wise, potentially making it slightly more powerful, (but that is as of yet unproven) and more importantly, has a built in blu-ray player, and free online. as well as frequent firmware updates, and a better lineup of first-party exclusives IMO, with some very strong third party exclusives.

Where as the 360 makes you pay to play with your friends online, but also has a (widely agreed) better structure to their online, and also has a longer list of exclusives (mainly due to it being launched earlier) and some good 3rd party exclusives.
So the PS3 offers you a number of things the 360 doesn't. You just have to look past your own personal misjudgements of that which you seeming know very little about.
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1. Difficult hardware designs. (make it more dev friendly)

Because of this, more money needs to be thrown at the hardware to produce the same if not a little better quality, most multiplatfrom titles aren't as good as the 360 version (GTAIV is a great example only 640p for the PS3 version, but it is getting better) and smaller company's see it as a risk.

2. Dualshock controller. (3 generations, come on)

I don't really mind the analog placements, its more the handles, they need to be longer, the triggers need to go, and be redone. Starting to think the boomarang could have been better, play GTAIV with the standard controls on PS3, its unplayable and kills your hands.

other than those 2 things, the PS3 is a great console.

agreed?

Eyezonmii

PS3 is a great console and we dont need fanboys to prove it! there is nothing wrong with the controller. ps3 will last alot longer than 360 because its more advanced. i did own all three consoles and I ended up just keeping the ps3 because it was the best. i cant stand fanboys anymore. this system wars threads are a waste of life! just play the dam game and shut up. we all like our own consoles. me its the ps3! wii is the worst because i will never waste money on a game with bad graphics and stupid controls. This is next gerneration and wii does not come close. I only bought the wii for its controllers after 7 months, I got bored of it!

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Agreed on hardware, but disagree with controller.Ragnarok1051
same here,DS3 feels very comfortable
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[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance too0rin

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products



Pretty sure your personal image of the PS3 is somewhat skewed by your personal preferance. The PS3 is nothing like the 360 hardware wise, potentially making it slightly more powerful, (but that is as of yet unproven) and more importantly, has a built in blu-ray player, and free online. as well as frequent firmware updates, and a better lineup of first-party exclusives IMO, with some very strong third party exclusives.

Where as the 360 makes you pay to play with your friends online, but also has a (widely agreed) better structure to their online, and also has a longer list of exclusives (mainly due to it being launched earlier) and some good 3rd party exclusives.
So the PS3 offers you a number of things the 360 doesn't. You just have to look past your own personal misjudgements of that which you seeming know very little about.

im not saying ps3 is garbage. It has some good games i would like to play like MGS4 and LBP. The problem is that i only has money to buy one system and in my opinion 360 is the obvious choise....more games, great online and now it has the lowest price! but...still my opinion ;)

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[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance too0rin

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products



Pretty sure your personal image of the PS3 is somewhat skewed by your personal preferance. The PS3 is nothing like the 360 hardware wise, potentially making it slightly more powerful, (but that is as of yet unproven) and more importantly, has a built in blu-ray player, and free online. as well as frequent firmware updates, and a better lineup of first-party exclusives IMO, with some very strong third party exclusives.

Where as the 360 makes you pay to play with your friends online, but also has a (widely agreed) better structure to their online, and also has a longer list of exclusives (mainly due to it being launched earlier) and some good 3rd party exclusives.
So the PS3 offers you a number of things the 360 doesn't. You just have to look past your own personal misjudgements of that which you seeming know very little about.

I agree 100%! and if you dont agree with the person above, your either a fanboy/fangirl or a stupid immature moron! This is called Console wars, not game wars. and if it was the console alone, the ps3 owns all. you get what you pay for and the great games are coming!

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hardware? no. are you series? ps2 was as complicated when it first came out but devs got the hang of it and look where it ended up! ps3 is in the same way having its hardware more and more recognised now by devs so nothing to change. BUT for ps4 yes they need to bring something more freindly in order to not scare off devs.

controller.....OMG are teh serieszzss??? it is THE best controller for the last two gens and this gen i think xbox one is better from what ppl have said but i prefer it rather than having something new cos im so used to it seeing as i have used it for last three gens!

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[QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance toojazuzu13

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products



Pretty sure your personal image of the PS3 is somewhat skewed by your personal preferance. The PS3 is nothing like the 360 hardware wise, potentially making it slightly more powerful, (but that is as of yet unproven) and more importantly, has a built in blu-ray player, and free online. as well as frequent firmware updates, and a better lineup of first-party exclusives IMO, with some very strong third party exclusives.

Where as the 360 makes you pay to play with your friends online, but also has a (widely agreed) better structure to their online, and also has a longer list of exclusives (mainly due to it being launched earlier) and some good 3rd party exclusives.
So the PS3 offers you a number of things the 360 doesn't. You just have to look past your own personal misjudgements of that which you seeming know very little about.

I agree 100%! and if you dont agree with the person above, your either a fanboy/fangirl or a stupid immature moron! This is called Console wars, not game wars. and if it was the console alone, the ps3 owns all. you get what you pay for and the great games are coming!

wow...so many insults on a so small amount of words....thats your opinion for sure. and yes, i buy game-consoles to play games!!

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[QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance tooPAL360

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products



Pretty sure your personal image of the PS3 is somewhat skewed by your personal preferance. The PS3 is nothing like the 360 hardware wise, potentially making it slightly more powerful, (but that is as of yet unproven) and more importantly, has a built in blu-ray player, and free online. as well as frequent firmware updates, and a better lineup of first-party exclusives IMO, with some very strong third party exclusives.

Where as the 360 makes you pay to play with your friends online, but also has a (widely agreed) better structure to their online, and also has a longer list of exclusives (mainly due to it being launched earlier) and some good 3rd party exclusives.
So the PS3 offers you a number of things the 360 doesn't. You just have to look past your own personal misjudgements of that which you seeming know very little about.

im not saying ps3 is garbage. It has some good games i would like to play like MGS4 and LBP. The problem is that i only has money to buy one system and in my opinion 360 is the obvious choise....more games, great online and now it has the lowest price! but...still my opinion ;)

more games? lol what fable halo and gears. oh my 3 exclusives. halo is overrated, i played the 3rd one and the story was a joke. how is paying for online great? its not much but still where is the money going. Lowest Price....YOUR RIGHT! thats why its selling more. too bad you have to pay more for the better harddrive, wireless adapter, and money for online! Trust me 360 fanboys the ps3 games are coming. thank to blu ray we have better and longer games!

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[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]agreed...and they have to change their arrogance toojazuzu13

I fail to see their arrogance lately that people keep bringing up.

well...i know it is old but according to sony "this generation only started when ps3 came out". this allied to other sony promesses and lies made me not buy its system this gen.




You are overly sensitive about products made of plastic and metal.

well...i am sensitive of too expensive plastic made products that offer me nothing more than the less expensive other plastic products



Pretty sure your personal image of the PS3 is somewhat skewed by your personal preferance. The PS3 is nothing like the 360 hardware wise, potentially making it slightly more powerful, (but that is as of yet unproven) and more importantly, has a built in blu-ray player, and free online. as well as frequent firmware updates, and a better lineup of first-party exclusives IMO, with some very strong third party exclusives.

Where as the 360 makes you pay to play with your friends online, but also has a (widely agreed) better structure to their online, and also has a longer list of exclusives (mainly due to it being launched earlier) and some good 3rd party exclusives.
So the PS3 offers you a number of things the 360 doesn't. You just have to look past your own personal misjudgements of that which you seeming know very little about.

im not saying ps3 is garbage. It has some good games i would like to play like MGS4 and LBP. The problem is that i only has money to buy one system and in my opinion 360 is the obvious choise....more games, great online and now it has the lowest price! but...still my opinion ;)

more games? lol what fable halo and gears. oh my 3 exclusives. halo is overrated, i played the 3rd one and the story was a joke. how is paying for online great? its not much but still where is the money going. Lowest Price....YOUR RIGHT! thats why its selling more. too bad you have to pay more for the better harddrive, wireless adapter, and money for online! Trust me 360 fanboys the ps3 games are coming. thank to blu ray we have better and longer games!

you obviosly never played halo and yes, 360 has 2x more games than the ps3