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#1 DA_B0MB
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     I think "experts" should be renamed "idiots" personally. They say the most ridiculous things and tend to be wrong half the time. And how exactly do you become and "expert" video game market analizer? Seriously, what makes their opinion any different than some random person off the street? THEY BOTH DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE! I might as well ask my friggen' dog who will win the console war! People here follow the words of analists who they've never even heard of as long as they say what they want them to say. System wars has to understand that their words are no better than the fanboys you despise. We are all no better than one another when it comes to calling the future because, like I said, NO ONE KNOWS THE FUTURE! You can take an educated guess, but that's as far as it goes. You analists can come back to me when you show me your crystal ball. Kthxbye.

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I love the "experts" that deemed the PSP the "Gameboy killer". How did that one turn out, again?
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So many "experts" completely wrote off Nintendo, we all see how that turned out.
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     I think "experts" should be renamed "idiots" personally. They say the most ridiculous things and tend to be wrong half the time. And how exactly do you become and "expert" video game market analizer? Seriously, what makes their opinion any different than some random person off the street? THEY BOTH DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE! I might as well ask my friggen' dog who will win the console war! People here follow the words of analists who they've never even heard of as long as they say what they want them to say. System wars has to understand that their words are no better than the fanboys you despise. We are all no better than one another when it comes to calling the future because, like I said, NO ONE KNOWS THE FUTURE! You can take an educated guess, but that's as far as it goes. You analists can come back to me when you show me your crystal ball. Kthxbye.

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that is exactly what makes their opinions worth more than any random fanboy.   an educated guess..   fanboys..  just guess.

If someon is involved in the industry, has the technical knowhow, has the connections, and has a good set of critical thinking skills, they can be "experts"  This doesnt mean they will always be right.     Yes, it is simply another persons opinion.  But it is one that should cary a little more weight given the expertise behind the opinion.


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I wonder who designated them as being the "experts". Maybe they did it themselves! Ok, in that case- I'm now an expert when it comes to video games. I decree that the Wii will be the smallest of the three consoles for the entire life of the three consoles. All other factors regarding console superiority are bogus and should be disregarded. I'm smart, ain't I? :)
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]

     I think "experts" should be renamed "idiots" personally. They say the most ridiculous things and tend to be wrong half the time. And how exactly do you become and "expert" video game market analizer? Seriously, what makes their opinion any different than some random person off the street? THEY BOTH DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE! I might as well ask my friggen' dog who will win the console war! People here follow the words of analists who they've never even heard of as long as they say what they want them to say. System wars has to understand that their words are no better than the fanboys you despise. We are all no better than one another when it comes to calling the future because, like I said, NO ONE KNOWS THE FUTURE! You can take an educated guess, but that's as far as it goes. You analists can come back to me when you show me your crystal ball. Kthxbye.

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that is exactly what makes their opinions worth more than any random fanboy.   an educated guess..   fanboys..  just guess.

If someon is involved in the industry, has the technical knowhow, has the connections, and has a good set of critical thinking skills, they can be "experts"  This doesnt mean they will always be right.     Yes, it is simply another persons opinion.  But it is one that should cary a little more weight given the expertise behind the opinion.


Yes, I guess you can say an educated guess differs them from the opinions of fanboys, but far too many times have "experts" (I refuse to unquote this) gotten predictions so completely wrong when it's their profession to get things predicted correctly.
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I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything.
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I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything. Jandurin
what?... just my opinion, but If a doctor was giving me medication and medical advice he/she BETTER know everything!
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#9 Warfust
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While I am tired of experts, so many predictions have come from "experts" that only know about part of the gaming industry that it makes it hard to judge who to listen too anyway.
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They are not video game analyzers ...They are called securities analysts or investment analysts,...Wallstreet big wigs and know how to read the market.  Many things play a factor in their assessments,t hey read company financial statements and analyze commodity prices, sales, costs, expenses, and tax rates in order to determine a company's value and project future earnings. In any of these various institutions, the analyst often meets with company officials to gain a better insight into a company's prospects and to determine the company's managerial effectiveness. Usually, financial analysts study an entire industry, assessing current trends in business practices, products, and industry competition.
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[QUOTE="_vacant_"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]

     I think "experts" should be renamed "idiots" personally. They say the most ridiculous things and tend to be wrong half the time. And how exactly do you become and "expert" video game market analizer? Seriously, what makes their opinion any different than some random person off the street? THEY BOTH DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE! I might as well ask my friggen' dog who will win the console war! People here follow the words of analists who they've never even heard of as long as they say what they want them to say. System wars has to understand that their words are no better than the fanboys you despise. We are all no better than one another when it comes to calling the future because, like I said, NO ONE KNOWS THE FUTURE! You can take an educated guess, but that's as far as it goes. You analists can come back to me when you show me your crystal ball. Kthxbye.

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that is exactly what makes their opinions worth more than any random fanboy.   an educated guess..   fanboys..  just guess.

If someon is involved in the industry, has the technical knowhow, has the connections, and has a good set of critical thinking skills, they can be "experts"  This doesnt mean they will always be right.     Yes, it is simply another persons opinion.  But it is one that should cary a little more weight given the expertise behind the opinion.


Yes, I guess you can say an educated guess differs them from the opinions of fanboys, but far too many times have "experts" (I refuse to unquote this) gotten predictions so completely wrong when it's their profession to get things predicted correctly.



But it sint their job to predict the future.  Its their job to analyze the data and calculate odds.    Yes they have been terribly wrong at times, but unforseen circumstances can change everything.    people thought the wii wouldnt even get out the door..  its doing great....   but others predicted the success of the ps2 with perfect accuracy. 

People tend to only remember when someone was wrong.  not when they were right.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything. DA_B0MB
what?... just my opinion, but If a doctor was giving me medication and medical advice he/she BETTER know everything!



look at your docs credentials..  do they say what his average GPA was?      tahts the problem, you know theyre qualified..  but it could be just barely.....
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything. DA_B0MB
what?... just my opinion, but If a doctor was giving me medication and medical advice he/she BETTER know everything!

They never know everything, though. And they're always changing their minds on what is good for you or bad for you. They should just shut up and let me figure out the hard way. :P I'm sorta joking.
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything. _vacant_
what?... just my opinion, but If a doctor was giving me medication and medical advice he/she BETTER know everything!



look at your docs credentials..  do they say what his average GPA was?      tahts the problem, you know theyre qualified..  but it could be just barely.....

true. an A doctor>>>>>>>>>>>>> C doctor. How did this topic go into doctors...
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[QUOTE="_vacant_"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything. DA_B0MB
what?... just my opinion, but If a doctor was giving me medication and medical advice he/she BETTER know everything!



look at your docs credentials..  do they say what his average GPA was?      tahts the problem, you know theyre qualified..  but it could be just barely.....

true. an A doctor>>>>>>>>>>>>> C doctor. How did this topic go into doctors...

I think I'm going back to med school soon. Wait- that's really not important in this thread...
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[QUOTE="_vacant_"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything. DA_B0MB
what?... just my opinion, but If a doctor was giving me medication and medical advice he/she BETTER know everything!



look at your docs credentials..  do they say what his average GPA was?      tahts the problem, you know theyre qualified..  but it could be just barely.....

true. an A doctor>>>>>>>>>>>>> C doctor. How did this topic go into doctors...




hahah  I have no idea......    *shakes his head*....    im half here, half doing data entry work..  
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I think "experts" should be renamed "idiots" personally. They say the most ridiculous things and tend to be wrong half the time. And how exactly do you become and "expert" video game market analizer? Seriously, what makes their opinion any different than some random person off the street? THEY BOTH DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE! I might as well ask my friggen' dog who will win the console war! People here follow the words of analists who they've never even heard of as long as they say what they want them to say. System wars has to understand that their words are no better than the fanboys you despise. We are all no better than one another when it comes to calling the future because, like I said, NO ONE KNOWS THE FUTURE! You can take an educated guess, but that's as far as it goes. You analists can come back to me when you show me your crystal ball. Kthxbye.

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Analysts get payed to do that, that is to predict the future. All major companies have people that can "predict" what is going to happen. That is a very well-paid job and you should be happy to do it one day. BTW, analysts have usually finished Universities so as to "analyze" far better than any fanboy can.
The problem is that a lot of them are not good enough.
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Analysts are definitely annoying. They said the PSP would destroy the DS and toss Nintendo out of the handheld industry - and later, apparently not learning from that mistake, said that the Wii wouldn't sell competing against the PS3 and 360.
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I'm just sick of Pachter. He's an idiot. He literally knows nothing.
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Necro thead.

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I'm just sick of Pachter. He's an idiot. He literally knows nothing. todd2r_Partdeux
Well, the best part of this thread is that hopefully you get suspended for it.
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]I'm just sick of Pachter. He's an idiot. He literally knows nothing. Blabadon
Well, the best part of this thread is that hopefully you get suspended for it.

I lol'd.
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Damn, this thread dates back to 2007, that feels like a lifetime ago...

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I'm just sick of Pachter. He's an idiot. He literally knows nothing. todd2r_Partdeux
y u bump dis
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]I'm just sick of Pachter. He's an idiot. He literally knows nothing. parkurtommo
y u bump dis

I didn't. Somebody else did. I didn't even notice the date. Ah well.
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I feel sorry for the OP, having his brain and all. :P
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I think "experts" should be renamed "idiots" personally. They say the most ridiculous things and tend to be wrong half the time. And how exactly do you become and "expert" video game market analizer? Seriously, what makes their opinion any different than some random person off the street? THEY BOTH DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE! I might as well ask my friggen' dog who will win the console war! People here follow the words of analists who they've never even heard of as long as theysay what they want them to say.System wars has to understand that their words are no better than the fanboys you despise. We are all no better than one another when it comes to calling the future because, like I said, NO ONE KNOWS THE FUTURE! You can take an educated guess, but that's as far as it goes. You analists can come back to me when you show me your crystal ball. Kthxbye.

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LMAO "Market analizer?! :P

edit: 2007 :O

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They are only experts to me if I except them as experts. Just because they claim they are experts, doesn't make them experts to me.
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wii u is going to be a disaster. I can't wait for analyst trying to figure out that the main reason why kinect and wii were huge successes was because american's obsession that if you buy something that motivates activity your kids suddenly will lose 30 pounds instantly. They basicallyy whored out these two items as if it will make your kids look like taylor lautner and people buy it like candy. It is the reason why shake weight and other stupid stuff sells. Don't expect wii-u which has a huge emphasis on a touchscreen to get the wii fit and wii sports users. It could very well be a disaster because of this.

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Experts are just people with a lot of knowledge in a particular field. They use that knowledge to makes assumptions and they obviously can be wrong, especially in such a young and ever changing industry.
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Those fine people get paid so they're automatically better than those who do not get paid. Their value is higher than random forum dwellers, and everyone should listen to their words of wisdom and never question their betters.

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I'm not sick of experts. I'm sick of doctors that think they know everything. Jandurin
5 years later, still true.
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Most of these "experts" are just people who write or say silly things to get attention to their websites for money. Other "experts" get their money by doing dumb nit picking comparisons to make fanboys happy.

People should really learn to think for themselves, just because people say they are experts or professionals doesn't make them so. I get the feeling people only listen to them to hear what they want. They are not looking for honest information, just to help reaffirm their bias.

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Most of these "experts" are just people who write or say silly things to get attention to their websites for money. Other "experts" get their money by doing dumb nit picking comparisons to make fanboys happy.

People should really learn to think for themselves, just because people say they are experts or professionals doesn't make them so. I get the feeling people only listen to them to hear what they want. They are not looking for honest information, just to help reaffirm their bias.

ShadowMoses900

Wow, you're a strange cookie! ;)

In that other thread, herms question Ubisoft's piracy statement, and you come in screaming how we shouldn't question them because they know more than us (buh buh, they're a big name publisher), yet now you're saying how we should question suspicious statements...

So, what's it going to be, make up your mind!

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No, I'm not sick of myself
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Most of these "experts" are just people who write or say silly things to get attention to their websites for money. Other "experts" get their money by doing dumb nit picking comparisons to make fanboys happy.

People should really learn to think for themselves, just because people say they are experts or professionals doesn't make them so. I get the feeling people only listen to them to hear what they want. They are not looking for honest information, just to help reaffirm their bias.

Rocker6

Wow, you're a strange cookie! ;)

In that other thread, herms question Ubisoft's piracy statement, and you come in screaming how we shouldn't question them because they know more than us (buh buh, they're a big name publisher), yet now you're saying how we should question suspicious statements...

So, what's it going to be, make up your mind!

Caught in his own web of idiocy, this shows that he just talks out his ass.
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Most of these "experts" are just people who write or say silly things to get attention to their websites for money. Other "experts" get their money by doing dumb nit picking comparisons to make fanboys happy.

People should really learn to think for themselves, just because people say they are experts or professionals doesn't make them so. I get the feeling people only listen to them to hear what they want. They are not looking for honest information, just to help reaffirm their bias.

ShadowMoses900
Yet you were defending IGN's credibility the other day when their article was obviously flawed
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Most of these "experts" are just people who write or say silly things to get attention to their websites for money. Other "experts" get their money by doing dumb nit picking comparisons to make fanboys happy.

People should really learn to think for themselves, just because people say they are experts or professionals doesn't make them so. I get the feeling people only listen to them to hear what they want. They are not looking for honest information, just to help reaffirm their bias.

OhJayDubya

Wow, you're a strange cookie! ;)

In that other thread, herms question Ubisoft's piracy statement, and you come in screaming how we shouldn't question them because they know more than us (buh buh, they're a big name publisher), yet now you're saying how we should question suspicious statements...

So, what's it going to be, make up your mind!

Caught in his own web of idiocy, this shows that he just talks out his ass.

Believe it or not, this is one of his "smarter" moments, I know since it only gave me a slight headache...

During his "finest" moments, I can literally feel my brain cells screaming in terror and dying! :(

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[QUOTE="OhJayDubya"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Wow, you're a strange cookie! ;)

In that other thread, herms question Ubisoft's piracy statement, and you come in screaming how we shouldn't question them because they know more than us (buh buh, they're a big name publisher), yet now you're saying how we should question suspicious statements...

So, what's it going to be, make up your mind!

Rocker6

Caught in his own web of idiocy, this shows that he just talks out his ass.

Believe it or not, this is one of his "smarter" moments, I know since it only gave me a slight headache...

During his "finest" moments, I can literally feel my brain cells screaming in terror and dying! :(

I clearly struck a nerve with you because you throw insults so much, you are clearly a kid. The truth always makes people mad.

You guys are super fanboys, so of course your going to deny IGN (experts and biggest name in the industry; they are reliable) and what the devs themselves said (LOL at thinking you know more about games then they do! ).

If you are a religous man like me you will take these words to heart "And the Truth will set you free" Jesus said that. I may be a Jew but that is still true. Only thing I am a fanboy of is the truth.

When people get upset and call you names it measn you showed them the truth. And they don't want to accept it.

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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="OhJayDubya"] Caught in his own web of idiocy, this shows that he just talks out his ass.ShadowMoses900

Believe it or not, this is one of his "smarter" moments, I know since it only gave me a slight headache...

During his "finest" moments, I can literally feel my brain cells screaming in terror and dying! :(

I clearly struck a nerve with you because you throw insults so much, you are clearly a kid. The truth always makes people mad.

You guys are super fanboys, so of course your going to deny IGN (experts and biggest name in the industry; they are reliable) and what the devs themselves said (LOL at thinking you know more about games then they do! ).

If you are a religous man like me you will take these words to heart "And the Truth will set you free" Jesus said that. I may be a Jew but that is still true. Only thing I am a fanboy of is the truth.

When people get upset and call you names it measn you showed them the truth. And they don't want to accept it.

Oh come on, I haven't insulted you. Maybe my brain dying off is unrelated to your posts? :P

As for IGN, even a lobotomized monkey could write up better material!

And nope, I'm not a religious man, only I don't feel like throwing that to other people's faces over the Internet. Avoiding the religion topic altogether is the best course of action, IMO. Though there is no truth in your Internet ramblings, so for your own sake, I hope it's just an act... I really do...

But I digress, back to the topic at hand:

"In that other thread, herms question Ubisoft's piracy statement, and you come in screaming how we shouldn't question them because they know more than us (buh buh, they're a big name publisher), yet now you're saying how we should question suspicious statements...

So, what's it going to be, make up your mind!"

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#42 verbtex  Moderator
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I remember reading this thread the first time around, sheesh, it's been a while.

Anyways, this thread is old, feel free to make a new one.