They're both evil but I would have to go with Actvision with being the better company; they're at least competent and most of their fans are happy. A meh poll for a meh day in System Wars.
What makes activision evil again? I know they shutdown a dev but milked GH to death, but that's about it as far as I'm aware of.
GD1551
They also screwed over Infinity Ward. Other than that I don't think they really are that much evil from the standard mega company, in contrast EA is clearly the worst company in the business IMO. There may be other things about Activision I don't know about though.
They are, but this is just between Electronic Arts and Actvision. I didn't want to make a poll about the most overall worst publisher because I'm sure there would be more than five, so you would have people complaining 'X' company doesn't deserve to be up there!' or 'Y is worst than all the listed above', etc.
Activision has never been evil. EA on the other hand started every bad trend in the industry.JohnnyCageMK
Agree with this. Actvision just milks you, EA milks you, treats you like crap, force things you don't want onto you, mocks the competition, and ruins their games.
I would say Activison, they hired people to dig up dirt on 2 of their employee's that made them billions of dollars, just so they wouldnt have to pay them a bonus.
EA is a bigger threat to the industry though, they're pathetic.
What makes activision evil again? I know they shutdown a dev but milked GH to death, but that's about it as far as I'm aware of.
Kell_the_Gamer
They also screwed over Infinity Ward. Other than that I don't think they really are that much evil from the standard mega company, in contrast EA is clearly the worst company in the business IMO. There may be other things about Activision I don't know about though. They did not screw over infinity ward. Some of the developers breached their contract, got fired, didnt get paid then tried to sue. Then subsequently lost.
Neither. Capcpom has both beat with their unfathomably bad business practices and ruined all relationship with their fanbase. Seth Killian recently left and he was the last Capcom employee I liked. All the good ones are leaving the sinking ship that is Capcom.
Capcom their so damn annoying first they don't add mega man to mvc3.they don't add him to umvc3 but they add him in an ending they tease him in a background,they give Frank west and zero a Megaman outfit dlc. They add a fat megaman to sf x tekken.wtf. And they don't add any requested marvel characters to umvc3 who seriously wanted rocket racoon???? Don't get me started on ea they can't even fix the FIFA 12 servers the game freezes in arena after a number of online matches and it just gets really frustrating. That battlefield premium thing is also really unnecessary.
I would say Activison, they hired people to dig up dirt on 2 of their employee's that made them billions of dollars, just so they wouldnt have to pay them a bonus.
EA is a bigger threat to the industry though, they're pathetic.
[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]Actvision gives what the people want.Jebus213
The problem is obvious... you don't appear to know the difference between "what Jebus213 wants" and "what Activision's millions of paying customers want." I'd say it's an easy mistake to make... but it's not, really.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]Actvision gives what the people want.lowe0
The problem is obvious... you don't appear to know the difference between "what Jebus123 wants" and "what Activision's millions of paying customers want." I'd say it's an easy mistake to make... but it's not, really. I don't care about what console players want. Most of them don't even know what mod tools and dedicated servers are and most console players don't even know anything about PC gaming beyond Farmville and WoW....well maybe Diablo 3 for the time being... Don't tell me the vast majority of PC gamers don't want that because they do. If they're not going to put all of that into the PC version of CoD(LIKE THEY USE TO) they might as well not make a PC version at all.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] The problem is obvious... you don't appear to know the difference between "what Jebus123 wants" and "what Activision's millions of paying customers want." I'd say it's an easy mistake to make... but it's not, really. I don't care about what console players want. Most of them don't even know what mod tools and dedicated servers are and most console players don't even know anything about PC gaming beyond Farmville and WoW....well maybe Diablo 3 for the time being... Don't tell me the vast majority of PC gamers don't want that because they do. If they're not going to put all of that into the PC version of CoD(LIKE THEY USE TO) they might as well not make a PC version at all.They're a business. Their job is to make money, and if they're making money hand over fist without catering to you, then why should they worry about it?
None of the above, mainly because if you don't like their products, you don't make a purchase, but also because 'evil-er' is not a word. The correct term would be 'more evil'.
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="lowe0"] The problem is obvious... you don't appear to know the difference between "what Jebus123 wants" and "what Activision's millions of paying customers want." I'd say it's an easy mistake to make... but it's not, really. I don't care about what console players want. Most of them don't even know what mod tools and dedicated servers are and most console players don't even know anything about PC gaming beyond Farmville and WoW....well maybe Diablo 3 for the time being... Don't tell me the vast majority of PC gamers don't want that because they do. If they're not going to put all of that into the PC version of CoD(LIKE THEY USE TO) they might as well not make a PC version at all.They're a business. Their job is to make money, and if they're making money hand over fist without catering to you, then why should they worry about it? I am well aware that there job is to give the shaft every year to the system it started on. I don't care if they're business. They can suck my d!ck for all I care. I hope Sledgehammer, IW, Treyarch, DICE, EA, Bioware, and you burn in hell for all eternity.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] I don't care about what console players want. Most of them don't even know what mod tools and dedicated servers are and most console players don't even know anything about PC gaming beyond Farmville and WoW....well maybe Diablo 3 for the time being... Don't tell me the vast majority of PC gamers don't want that because they do. If they're not going to put all of that into the PC version of CoD(LIKE THEY USE TO) they might as well not make a PC version at all.They're a business. Their job is to make money, and if they're making money hand over fist without catering to you, then why should they worry about it? I am well aware that there job is to give the shaft every year to the system it started on. The shaft? No. They offer you a product at a price. Buy it or don't. Where the franchise started has no relevance to the current transaction.
Electronic Arts followed by Crapcom. For me Activision isn't evil, it isn't their fault people love CoD and lazy developers want to copy/paste the CoD formula. Sure, they milk you with the overpriced DLC map packs but so far we haven't seen Day One DLC that is content removed from the game, buying developer studios and then ruining them, ruining IPs and all of that.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="lowe0"]They're a business. Their job is to make money, and if they're making money hand over fist without catering to you, then why should they worry about it?lowe0
I am well aware that there job is to give the shaft every year to the system it started on. The shaft? No. They offer you a product at a price. Buy it or don't. Where the franchise started has no relevance to the current transaction. The shaft? Yes. I can complain about whatever I damn well please so you can fvck off with your bullsh!t. You're talking to someone who's put 400 hours into every CoD up until MW2. So I don't have the right to complain and be p!ssed on how badly the series has become?
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] I am well aware that there job is to give the shaft every year to the system it started on.Jebus213
The shaft? No. They offer you a product at a price. Buy it or don't. Where the franchise started has no relevance to the current transaction. The shaft? Yes. I can complain about whatever I damn well please so you can fvck off with your bullsh!t. You're talking to someone who's put 400 hours into every CoD up until MW2. So I don't have the right to complain and be p!ssed on how badly the series has become?
If there is anything I've learned about SW, its that the more basis you have for your critisisms, the more likely people are to bash you for them.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] I am well aware that there job is to give the shaft every year to the system it started on. The shaft? No. They offer you a product at a price. Buy it or don't. Where the franchise started has no relevance to the current transaction. The shaft? Yes. I can complain about whatever I damn well please so you can fvck off with your bullsh!t. You're talking to someone who's put 400 hours into every CoD up until MW2. So I don't have the right to complain and be p!ssed on how badly the series has become? No. You can complain all you want, of course, but time spent on a franchise buys you nothing. They don't owe you anything, just as you don't owe them.
I love this. It's ridiculously cyclical how those two companies are. Not three years ago we were having this conversation, and Activision was the big bad. EA had a great 2010 with John Riccitiello at the helm, then 2011 comes around and they start rolling out these policy changes. Now they are the "worst company in America" once again. Activision is doing the smartest thing they can do, and that's wait out the sh!tstorm that EA is getting themselves into. Aside from Project Icebreaker, Acti hasn't made the headlines in quite a while (and even then that seemed to be over in one, fell settlement-swoop). They're raking in the Call of Duty and Blizzard dough and they have no need for any kind of press.
Once Riccitiello is out, EA will die down for a time and Acti will be the focusing rod of gamers' hate soon enough.
All those who judge others are evil. Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself. They're corporations. They do what they do. Dont do business with them, but leave the good, evil to a higher authority than human.
They're both pretty bad. I just think that Activision is better at making things subtle.... and I think the majority can't get the fact that COD is being milked dried, and it's showing (along with Guitar Hero, and Tony Hawk) Oh, and cheating out the original IW bosses out of a lot of royalty loot. Good ol' Bobby Kotick. :lol:
[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Companies are "evil"? :lol: Gamers are such toddlers.Eponique
And what is wrong with such a statement? It's impossible for companies to be unethical?First of all evil =/= unethical. Second, there's nothing unethical about a company charging a nominal fee for a product or service that they provide. Gaming is not a birth right or a requirement for life, it is a luxury. These corporations don't owe you anything beyond what you pay for and they don't force you to buy their products. If you don't like what they're selling then go buy elsewhere.
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